2026-01-01 07:53:44 <ncopa> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Milk-V_Pioneer_Box#Configuring_the_Linux_kernel there is a: Warning
2026-01-01 07:53:44 <ncopa> You must build the latest bootloader (zsbl, OpenSBI, and EDK2) to use an upstream kernel.
2026-01-01 18:15:23 <clandmeter> ncopa: I would exepect the bsp from their own CI to be workable. 
2026-01-01 18:15:41 <clandmeter> i am not sure what goes wrong, but this has happend before when i tried EDK2
2026-01-01 18:15:54 <clandmeter> i read some refs regarding memory
2026-01-02 12:03:08 <mps> mesa should be upgraded to 25.3, i tested it on riscv64, aarch64, x86_64 and loongarch64
2026-01-02 14:29:07 <achill> mps: then please look after https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/14463
2026-01-02 14:29:13 <achill> thats the issue blocking the merge of mesa 25.3
2026-01-02 14:37:35 <mps> uhm, 32bit arm, didn't tried on it
2026-01-06 07:28:54 <mps> is pioneer with dev lxcs down again?
2026-01-06 07:31:13 <ikke> nld-bld-1, yes
2026-01-06 07:35:21 <mps> can someone boot it?
2026-01-06 07:41:44 <ikke> clandmeter needs to restart it 
2026-01-06 08:13:20 <clandmeter> should restart
2026-01-06 08:20:58 <mps> must restart ;)
2026-01-06 09:18:43 <mps> looks like host works now but my lxc isn't accessible
2026-01-06 09:21:14 <ikke> I suspect you can now
2026-01-06 09:22:53 <mps> i can, thanks
2026-01-06 09:25:59 <mps> will try to build and enable bpi-f3 in mainline u-boot
2026-01-06 09:32:33 <ikke> clandmeter: funny thing, now it's the other host that's unavailabl
2026-01-06 10:16:18 <ncopa> clandmeter: re failing to boot pioneer using edk2 https://github.com/sophgo/bootloader-riscv/issues/230 I think the problem is in grub
2026-01-06 11:30:30 <ncopa> we can solve it by either try fix grub, or create an UKI and boot the kernel/initramfs as an EFI executable
2026-01-06 11:30:51 <ncopa> former is better longter, latter is easier (does not require rebuild grub)
2026-01-06 11:31:42 <ncopa> I played with ukify a few days ago. https://gist.github.com/ncopa/00c6e791e3e56c6e0369e5a2aa2eb99f#create-the-image
2026-01-06 11:32:06 <achill> ohh that is nice
2026-01-06 11:32:17 <ncopa> there is even a trigger so the UKI can be auto generated on kernel updates
2026-01-06 11:32:56 <ncopa> I was thinking of maybe even ship a distro image as UKI
2026-01-06 11:34:37 <ncopa> ie. put the modloop and apks repo in initramfs and ship it as alpine-virt.efi
2026-01-06 12:05:11 <mps> nld-bld-1 is practically unusable for building anything bigger for me
2026-01-06 12:07:03 <clandmeter> ncopa: what about trying limine? 
2026-01-06 12:07:10 <clandmeter> or  what was the real name
2026-01-06 12:07:23 <clandmeter> its weird, didnt expect it was grub
2026-01-06 12:07:40 <clandmeter> saw no msg about it exec the bootloader
2026-01-06 12:09:43 <mps> I use limine an apple silicon and loongarch, didn't tried on riscv64
2026-01-06 12:10:25 <mps> and use it aarch64 qemu
2026-01-06 12:10:57 <mps> but it can't load compressed vmlinuz
2026-01-06 12:22:27 <ikke> unusable in what way?
2026-01-06 12:25:59 <mps> ikke: too often hangs build processes or fails in different ways
2026-01-06 12:42:56 <clandmeter> seems bld2 is hanging again
2026-01-06 12:43:05 <ikke> yes, I mentioned it
2026-01-06 12:43:12 <clandmeter> ill reboto it later and see if i can try limine to boot
2026-01-06 12:43:20 <clandmeter> or newer grub
2026-01-06 12:43:27 <clandmeter> not even sure which grub version it is
2026-01-06 12:43:50 <clandmeter> anyone tried our grub on rv64?
2026-01-06 12:53:54 <mps> clandmeter: I tried on VF2 1-2 years ago. it worked then
2026-01-06 12:54:23 <mps> and on qemu
2026-01-06 14:45:01 <clandmeter> rebooting bld1
2026-01-06 14:47:02 <clandmeter> \o/
2026-01-06 14:47:08 <clandmeter> ncopa: you were right, again of course
2026-01-06 14:47:16 <clandmeter> how did you figure that out? 
2026-01-06 14:47:23 <clandmeter> just by that error msg? 
2026-01-06 14:48:38 <clandmeter> Limine 10.6.1 (riscv64, UEFI)
2026-01-06 15:10:54 <ncopa> clandmeter: I pasted the entire log to chatgpt which claimed it to be grub. I asked how it knew it was bug and then I asked for references
2026-01-06 15:11:09 <clandmeter> lol
2026-01-06 15:11:28 <clandmeter> but not all of it is grub
2026-01-06 15:11:35 <clandmeter> only the last part i think
2026-01-06 15:11:59 <ncopa> yes. that is what chatgpt explained too
2026-01-06 15:13:59 <ncopa> so it boots with Limine now?
2026-01-06 15:15:07 <clandmeter> it loads the bootloader yes
2026-01-06 15:15:10 <clandmeter> need to config it now
2026-01-06 15:15:15 <clandmeter> see if it wants to load the kernel
2026-01-06 15:15:18 <ncopa> oh nice!
2026-01-06 15:15:44 <ncopa> the linux-lts kernel from edge should in theory work
2026-01-06 15:19:40 <ncopa> reminds me, I should followup on that limine thing for setup-disk
2026-01-06 15:20:07 <clandmeter> ok here she goes
2026-01-06 15:20:22 <clandmeter> lets see if it eats linux for dinner
2026-01-06 15:20:55 <ncopa> I joined the serial console. I hope i didnt kick you out
2026-01-06 15:21:15 <ncopa> i think i did... sorry
2026-01-06 15:22:17 <clandmeter> nope
2026-01-06 15:22:26 <clandmeter> weird, it cannot find the config
2026-01-06 15:25:50 <ncopa> it is on nvme? maybe it does not find nvme?
2026-01-06 15:26:07 <ncopa> limine probably needs the driver for the storage media
2026-01-06 15:30:13 <clandmeter> not sure, it does not mention anything that it needs something special for nvme
2026-01-06 15:58:46 <ncopa> but it found the kernel?
2026-01-06 15:59:13 <clandmeter> it seems it cannot find the disk
2026-01-06 15:59:19 <clandmeter> or im holding it wrong
2026-01-06 15:59:36 <clandmeter> not sure if i need to install anything else except the efi pkg
2026-01-06 16:00:02 <clandmeter> i put the config in esp
2026-01-06 16:00:16 <clandmeter> so boot() should be set to the esp
2026-01-06 16:00:24 <clandmeter> and boot(2) should be root drive
2026-01-06 16:00:33 <clandmeter> boot(1) is esp
2026-01-06 16:00:59 <clandmeter> also, if i dont put the config on the esp, it wont find it. 
2026-01-06 16:01:17 <clandmeter> but it does find the config if its next to it. 
2026-01-06 16:15:33 <mps> clandmeter: I put all on efi partitions for limine
2026-01-06 16:15:52 <clandmeter> yes i think thats the only way
2026-01-06 16:16:07 <mps> think it don't have drivers for other FS
2026-01-06 16:16:30 <clandmeter> oh hah, thats the problem yes
2026-01-06 16:16:32 <clandmeter> now i remember
2026-01-06 16:17:06 <clandmeter> thx for reminding me
2026-01-06 16:17:14 <clandmeter> i put boot on esp
2026-01-06 16:17:48 <mps> and i found it can boot only uncompressed or efi kernel
2026-01-06 16:19:10 <mps> type of kernel must be 'told' in limine.conf stanza
2026-01-06 16:20:02 <mps> initramfs can be compressed
2026-01-06 16:21:03 <mps> in 15 minutes i can post limine.conf for asahi alpine
2026-01-06 16:26:35 <mps> here is script to create alpine image for apple silicon installer https://tpaste.us/xDoQ
2026-01-06 16:27:08 <mps> there is part for bootloader - limine
2026-01-06 16:45:53 <clandmeter> ok, you are right, it does not take compressed kernel
2026-01-06 16:46:09 <clandmeter> is our kernel just gzipped? 
2026-01-06 16:47:36 <mps> i think so. once i simply gunziped kernel and it booted
2026-01-06 16:48:58 <clandmeter> 🤞
2026-01-06 16:50:03 <mps> you can check by `file` command
2026-01-06 16:51:16 <clandmeter> i did :)
2026-01-06 16:51:25 <clandmeter> ok it loaded the kernel and initramfs
2026-01-06 16:51:29 <clandmeter> but lost screen
2026-01-06 16:51:37 <clandmeter> linux: Loading kernel `boot():/vmlinuz-lts`...
2026-01-06 16:51:37 <clandmeter> linux: Loading module `boot():/initramfs-lts`...
2026-01-06 16:51:37 <clandmeter> PROGRESS CODE: V02010004 I0
2026-01-06 16:51:37 <clandmeter> PROGRESS CODE: V03101019 I0
2026-01-06 16:51:50 <mps> uh
2026-01-06 16:52:48 <mps> maybe it need few seconds
2026-01-06 16:53:11 <mps> 10-15 iirc in such cases
2026-01-06 16:53:26 <mps> seconds*
2026-01-06 16:54:03 <ncopa> do you have serial console?
2026-01-06 16:55:12 <mps> i can ping 172.16.0.30 from dmvpn
2026-01-06 16:55:49 <mps> nld-bld-1 is this?
2026-01-06 16:58:37 <clandmeter> i will update the cmdline, forgot about it
2026-01-06 17:00:38 <clandmeter> ncopa: i remember i did a in kernel console config
2026-01-06 17:00:44 <clandmeter> i guess you didnt do that for yours
2026-01-06 17:02:39 <mps> limine supports serial console
2026-01-06 17:03:14 <mps> and serial_baudrate
2026-01-06 17:04:02 <mps> also verbose could be useful
2026-01-06 17:04:04 <ikke> nld-bld-1 is 172.16.24.2
2026-01-06 17:04:11 <ikke> sorry, 30.20
2026-01-06 17:04:13 <ikke> sorry, 30.2
2026-01-06 17:04:26 <ikke> 172.16.0.30 is the router in front of them
2026-01-06 17:04:40 <mps> ah, thanks
2026-01-06 17:05:31 <mps> 172.16.30.2 also answer ping
2026-01-06 17:05:38 <clandmeter> its online now
2026-01-06 17:05:41 <clandmeter> but will reboot soon
2026-01-06 17:05:47 <clandmeter> mps: what serial support?
2026-01-06 17:05:55 <clandmeter> i mean i can see limine over serial just fine
2026-01-06 17:06:06 <clandmeter> but i need to see the kernel 
2026-01-06 17:06:11 <mps> this, i meant
2026-01-06 17:06:32 <mps> then do, please :)
2026-01-06 17:06:43 <clandmeter> i mean does it have any special serial cofnig?
2026-01-06 17:07:20 <mps> yes, these: serial and serial_baudrate
2026-01-06 17:07:29 <clandmeter> i dont see it in tthe docs
2026-01-06 17:07:43 <mps> serial=yes
2026-01-06 17:07:54 <clandmeter> in limine.conf?
2026-01-06 17:08:02 <mps> serial_baudrate default to 9600
2026-01-06 17:08:18 <mps> yes, limine.conf
2026-01-06 17:08:25 <clandmeter> show me where you find this? 
2026-01-06 17:08:49 <clandmeter> ah found it
2026-01-06 17:09:39 <mps> > clandmeter| show me where you find this?
2026-01-06 17:10:01 <mps> in local git cloned
2026-01-06 17:10:22 <clandmeter> baudrate is only for bios boot
2026-01-06 17:11:00 <mps> https://codeberg.org/Limine/Limine/src/branch/v10.x/CONFIG.md
2026-01-06 17:11:45 <clandmeter> ok last try
2026-01-06 17:11:49 <clandmeter> need to go home
2026-01-06 17:13:18 <clandmeter> nope serial stops
2026-01-06 17:13:28 <mps> huh
2026-01-06 17:13:29 <clandmeter> ncopa: im not sure what happends
2026-01-06 17:13:36 <clandmeter> linux: Loading kernel `boot():/vmlinuz-lts`...
2026-01-06 17:13:36 <clandmeter> PROGRESS CODE: V03101019 I0
2026-01-06 17:13:36 <clandmeter> PROGRESS CODE: V02010004 I0
2026-01-06 17:13:36 <clandmeter> linux: Loading module `boot():/initramfs-lts`...
2026-01-06 17:13:41 <clandmeter> it stops after this
2026-01-06 17:13:58 <clandmeter> this is your kernel
2026-01-06 17:14:19 <clandmeter> i remember when i build the kernel for pioneer I had to hard code the serial in the kernel
2026-01-06 17:14:39 <clandmeter> as else something breaks it, and im not sure what. 
2026-01-06 17:14:55 <clandmeter> and the GPU only runs when the modules are loaded
2026-01-06 17:16:24 <mps> clandmeter: try to put `cmdline` params, these are kernel cmdline
2026-01-06 17:17:21 <mps> f.e. cmdline: root=UUID=$rootuuid ro rootwait console=tty1 modules=sd-mod,usb-storage
2026-01-06 17:19:27 <clandmeter> ikke: im bringign it back online
2026-01-06 17:19:30 <clandmeter> stoppign now
2026-01-06 17:19:42 <clandmeter> hope it boots
2026-01-06 17:19:55 <clandmeter> it does
2026-01-06 17:20:23 <ikke> ok, all containers have an IP now
2026-01-06 17:20:44 <clandmeter> ncopa: maybe we can check tomrorow morning about the issue
2026-01-06 17:20:54 <clandmeter> something is up with your kernel
2026-01-06 17:26:12 <mps> maybe could test limine on armv7 chromebook, but have to find time for this
2026-01-06 17:28:14 <mps> (while impatiently waiting for spacemit musebook)
2026-01-07 06:40:05 <clandmeter> morning
2026-01-07 06:40:25 <clandmeter> ncopa: where is your kernel config?