2026-09-01 09:08:45 Getting cosmic to work is pretty straightforward. 2026-09-01 10:39:08 When trying to install https://github.com/OpenNebula/addon-context-linux/releases/download/v6.6.1/one-context-6.6.1-r1.apk to alpine 3.24, apk says "v2 package format error" - what's the right way to "reformat" the apk? 2026-09-01 10:55:23 I just noticed there is monero package in edge repo. Do you think it would be possible to run monero node over I2P network using I2Pd package on Raspberry Pi 4 or 5? 2026-09-01 11:43:39 "When trying to install https://..." <- with an apk from 2023 you wont have much luck on an edge install 2026-09-01 11:43:56 probably rebuilding from source might fix it 2026-09-01 11:44:55 or try this? https://github.com/OpenNebula/one-apps/releases/tag/v7.4.0 2026-09-01 12:05:22 Anyone else have issues with bluetooth speakers/headsets that started over last day or 2? 2026-09-01 12:05:50 Not getting much in errors beyond a br-connection-unknown error from bluez. Can try rolling back more firmware, but trying to validate what step to take next 2026-09-01 12:06:22 Mice and keyboards are fine. 2026-09-01 12:52:19 "or try this? https://github.com..." <- I actually overlooked that one - thanks for the pointer! It indeed works! 2026-09-01 15:09:47 andar1an: I have the same problem, it's a regression in a wireplumber upgrade 2026-09-01 15:14:26 Thank you lnl! I rolled back pipewire, but not wireplumber yet. 2026-09-01 16:56:21 this? https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/work_items/999 2026-09-01 16:57:16 It didn't have to do with profiles for me 2026-09-01 16:57:31 Profiles would have been a different error 2026-09-01 16:58:04 Just purely unable to connect. Was able to grab a snippet of "local host dropped connection" with a specific flow 2026-09-01 16:59:21 Could pair, could trust. Couldn't connect. 2026-09-01 17:00:18 All bluetooth audio devices i tried were the same (tried 3). 2026-09-01 17:00:52 These same devices never had issues even earlier this week 2026-09-01 17:01:38 I can try to dig for more info later when back at system 2026-09-01 17:05:11 Maybe something changed with wireplumber config that needs update, maybe bluetooth firmware? Going to start with wireplumber rollback and go from there. Already tried rolling back pipewire and a few firmwares (maybe wrong ones) 2026-09-01 21:33:57 Thank you lnl, was wireplumber for me too 2026-09-01 21:36:03 omni: doesn't look like it 2026-09-01 21:36:49 I've bisected it down to https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/commit/cb92ef9846e2b2f827e1831515bc3a31e7d2ed1a but this doesn't tell me much 2026-09-01 21:54:35 Do you think there is some loop with the addition of remove dropping the connection. Maybe some logic is flawed, because I was immediately getting dropped by local host 2026-09-01 21:55:08 That's awesome you dug down to that haha. How long did that take? 2026-09-01 22:02:24 A bit, I had to reboot multiple times to confirm if it works or not 2026-09-01 22:04:45 Line 58, create-device.lua 2026-09-01 22:04:47 Does that seem right? 2026-09-01 22:06:25 I want to dig in with you haha. I just know nothing about the codebase yet 2026-09-01 22:10:01 Just seems weird from a naiive perspective to see a connection event removing a node. But it could be for a reason i don't know yet. 2026-09-01 22:12:13 If that is supposed to be there, maybe something is triggering object removed signal when it shouldn't? 2026-09-01 22:18:56 There also used to be a createDevice function, and a CreateMonitor function. Now just createMonitor 2026-09-01 22:20:57 Just renamed. My bad 2026-09-01 22:29:46 Could it be as simple as the changes in module standard event sources? Should remkve have the same event priority? 2026-09-01 22:35:02 Gotta go make dinner, sorry if that was useless haha 2026-09-02 17:15:01 why does this fail on one computer, but not on another: su -s /bin/sh -l sysuser -c 'startx /usr/bin/dwm' .. dont have the computer here now but i got some permisison denied and x didnt start 2026-09-02 17:18:32 worked if i make a regular user and logs in as that user 2026-09-02 17:19:22 i guess that user is a bit outdated.. maybe thats the reason.. its not on the internet 2026-09-02 17:23:23 Maybe it's something else in the startup files (.xinitrc for example) 2026-09-02 17:25:03 s/user/system 2026-09-02 17:25:46 i dont think there should be, i tried moving all the files in home to a /backup/ dir. 2026-09-02 17:31:08 i wonder in $SHELL gets set, and if that could affect it.. 2026-09-02 17:34:36 su: must be suid to work properly 2026-09-02 17:35:12 s/in/if/g ... guess im tired.. 2026-09-02 17:35:16 ok, works without specifying the shell 2026-09-02 17:35:44 ~ # echo $SHELL 2026-09-02 17:35:44 /bin/ksh 2026-09-02 17:35:44 ~ # su -l -c 'echo $SHELL' quinq 2026-09-02 17:35:44 /bin/sh 2026-09-02 19:21:11 longnoserob libcec 8.1.7 released today so can you bump alpine/aports!106926 to that? 2026-09-02 19:21:57 it fixes the aforementioned segfault on the raspberry pi 2026-09-02 20:31:57 Podman 6.1.0 won't work at all, anyone else seeing #18426? 2026-09-02 22:25:11 "longnoserob libcec 8.1.7..." <- yes can do that in a short while 2026-09-02 22:57:25 hi 2026-09-02 22:57:45 is someone here? 2026-09-02 22:58:11 no. 2026-09-02 22:58:15 nobody here. 2026-09-02 22:58:53 We're all just purposefully hiding! 2026-09-02 22:59:02 Does cloud image automatically runs SSH server? 2026-09-02 23:08:08 WhyNotHugo: I'm not super happy about the upgrade, I would have wanted to look into more things before going to 6.x 2026-09-02 23:08:52 Guest16971: I believe it does 2026-09-02 23:15:08 WhyNotHugo: although I only had to remove my old v1 registries.conf, I seem to be able to use podman 6.1.0 2026-09-02 23:15:24 I wonder what I'm doing differently 2026-09-02 23:16:47 My ~/.config/podman is empty 2026-09-02 23:17:10 I mean, ~/.config/podman. I also delted ~/.local/share/podman and its cache 2026-09-02 23:22:46 and ~/.config/containers/ ? 2026-09-02 23:24:58 I'm suspecting we also need to update community/containers-common/APKBUILD 2026-09-02 23:25:27 it was suggested to switch source to https://github.com/podman-container-tools/container-libs 2026-09-02 23:37:18 User8395: updated to 8.1.7 2026-09-02 23:39:51 Yeah, it seems like containers-common has moved to that new location and we're several versions behind. 2026-09-02 23:59:18 WhyNotHugo: I'm currently looking into it 2026-09-02 23:59:46 Thanks. The package seemed a bit non-trivial. 2026-09-03 00:02:03 perhaps one of the reasons it's been dodged ;) 2026-09-03 03:07:30 Guest16971: During the install it'll have you choose between None, OpenSSH, or Dropbear for SSH servers. 2026-09-03 03:08:16 (I might be thinking of virt) 2026-09-03 09:35:28 Anybody using xfreerdp3? 2026-09-03 09:35:42 Suddenly I the imput doesn't work at all anymore 2026-09-03 09:36:01 I can connect correctly, same as before, but nothing responds there, keyboard or mouse pointer 2026-09-03 11:26:16 i just discovered `apk fetch coffee` lmaooooo 2026-09-03 11:31:33 Go and fetch your own coffee. 2026-09-03 11:42:24 apk fetch -f coffee 2026-09-03 11:42:26 :> 2026-09-03 11:44:10 $ apk fetch sandwich 2026-09-03 11:44:10 sandwich: unable to select package (or its dependencies) 2026-09-03 11:44:11 :( 2026-09-03 11:45:38 better create a PR for that 2026-09-03 11:45:56 jeje ;) 2026-09-03 14:05:44 is uni2ascii somewhere in repo? also trying iconv -f UTF-8 -t US_ASCII//TRANSLIT ... but it fails 2026-09-03 14:09:51 0https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/contents?file=uni2ascii&path=&name=&branch=edge&repo=&arch= 2026-09-03 14:09:53 https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/contents?file=uni2ascii&path=&name=&branch=edge&repo=&arch= 2026-09-03 14:10:29 I built uni2ascii for myself 2026-09-03 14:10:47 I could share the APKBUILD 2026-09-03 14:11:56 btw, I think "//TRANSLIT" won't work on alpine 2026-09-03 14:12:21 at least with musl, it definitely won't work 2026-09-03 14:12:37 that's why I built uni2ascii 2026-09-03 14:13:02 yeah, seems so 2026-09-03 14:13:19 what does it output instead of eg ø? 2026-09-03 14:13:51 ups.. i had a filter to convert the char i tried typing............. 2026-09-03 14:14:07 what does it output instead of utf-8 symbols? 2026-09-03 14:14:15 uni2ascii? 2026-09-03 14:15:00 aron yes 2026-09-03 14:15:08 it works very well removing any achutes and other mumbo-jumbo decoration 2026-09-03 14:15:37 I use it all the time 2026-09-03 14:16:01 do you want the APKBUILD? 2026-09-03 14:16:24 i wouldnt know how to install/use it i suspect 2026-09-03 14:17:13 I can give access to the apk repo where I keep it 2026-09-03 14:17:22 or give me an example text 2026-09-03 14:17:30 and I run uni2ascii on it 2026-09-03 14:17:54 maybe the latter is the better to try it 2026-09-03 14:20:13 what does æøå turn into? 2026-09-03 14:20:28 my irc client eats this 2026-09-03 14:21:57 give me a codepoint 2026-09-03 14:22:31 https://accentcodes.com/languages/nordic-alt-codes.html 2026-09-03 14:22:41 and emoticons? 2026-09-03 14:23:23 The Nordic languages - Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Icelandic, Faroese - share a small but distinctive set of extra letters that aren't in standard English. Swedish uses a a o. Norwegian and Danish use ae o a. Together they cover 10 characters you'll need for names (Bjorn, Orsted, Asa, Oresund), place names (Goteborg, Kobenhavn, Tromso), and words (smorgasbord, rodgrod). 2026-09-03 14:23:45 ^ this is the output 2026-09-03 14:24:28 aha, kinda of neat! 2026-09-03 14:25:08 obviously, some information is lost 2026-09-03 14:25:18 but at least it's ascii 2026-09-03 14:25:51 ive been using ø=0 æ=3 å=4 but not as intuitive.. 2026-09-03 14:27:01 it converts emojis into codepoints, like 0x1F600, 0x1F642, 0x1F60B 2026-09-03 14:27:34 I don't see what else it could do 2026-09-03 14:28:19 started making a sed-filter to change them into :surprise:, :smirk:, etc 2026-09-03 14:28:26 although there is a lot of options 2026-09-03 14:28:27 like: 2026-09-03 14:28:28 -S define a custom substitution 2026-09-03 14:28:36 but also thought of such code as a possiblity.. 2026-09-03 14:29:57 you'll need a huge table for this though 2026-09-03 14:31:13 yeah, just doing the ones i come across, but those emoticons are kinda popular, and a lot of them yeah 2026-09-03 14:35:23 I found nothing in the manual, only the custom substitution 2026-09-03 14:35:38 it can switch a unicode codepoint to a single ascii character 2026-09-03 14:36:42 another alternative: download the source code, and add the desired emoji translations yourself ;) 2026-09-03 14:42:51 maybe need to install new applications/fonts :scream: 2026-09-03 14:48:16 if you want :P 2026-09-03 14:49:16 I don't really care about this emoji thing, if someone can communicate with me only using emojis, it's a lost cause :D 2026-09-03 14:51:20 /quit 2026-09-03 15:02:36 I find emojis add emotional context which can be tedious without and i already suck at texting lol. Not a fan of only, but definitely a fan of supplemental. Thats cool haha 2026-09-03 15:04:23 Reminds me I have been meaning to make an update request for Halloy. Can try later. 2026-09-04 00:11:42 Gitaly on GitLab seems to have fallen over. 2026-09-04 04:41:23 ncopa can you please look into this ^ 2026-09-04 04:45:10 Probably worth getting a few more people onboard that can handle things like this while you're away. 2026-09-04 04:47:40 Justin[m]: gitlab is working well for me 2026-09-04 04:47:46 Justin[m]: Anything particular not working? 2026-09-04 04:48:18 gitaly: https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/aports/-/commits/master/community/grpc 2026-09-04 04:48:55 ikke ^ 2026-09-04 04:49:13 gitaly is working fine, but certain types of requests are timing out 2026-09-04 04:49:21 that's a different problem that has no easy solution 2026-09-04 04:49:56 It has been timing out all day. ☹️ 2026-09-04 04:50:21 Yes, that type of request will always time out 2026-09-04 04:50:27 it's a history intensive request 2026-09-04 04:50:39 and aports has lots of history 2026-09-04 04:50:57 So GitLab is too simple to do a database query with a limit of returned results? 😆 2026-09-04 04:51:29 I also can't sync my aports repo as it is far behind and I'm guessing just times out. 2026-09-04 04:54:27 Lets see if I can do it from my PC. 2026-09-04 04:56:55 I guess GitLab can't handle a query like that as it is probably now vibe coded by their AI loving bosses. 2026-09-04 05:10:16 In the past, when I have had issues pulling from gitlab, I've pulled from https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports 2026-09-04 05:10:47 I was wanting to view history mostly. 2026-09-04 05:12:34 Huh, we must have different preferences. I prefer looking at history with 'git log' locally. Oh well, everyone is different 2026-09-04 05:14:04 https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/log/community/grpc 2026-09-04 05:15:53 Yeah, that works nicely also 2026-09-04 05:18:54 ikke: Thanks for not merging that MR for clarkson this morning. I noticed you had added commits, then saw that now they are up to date. A bit of a face palm on my end 2026-09-04 05:20:05 jvvv: I rebased it to deal with a conflict 2026-09-04 05:20:13 You can revert it if you want 2026-09-04 05:20:36 Yep, I figured... that was the reason, was all good. I closed it 2026-09-04 05:21:11 4 months, no updates. The day after I push removal commit, they update 2026-09-04 05:23:08 I'm not convinced they will stay sync'd, but I'm not getting the tarot cards out to try to guess the future, either 2026-09-04 05:27:23 https://zabbix.alpinelinux.org/history.php?action=showgraph&itemids%5B%5D=28838 2026-09-04 05:27:37 Or are you referring to individual repos? 2026-09-04 05:29:44 No, they hadn't sync'd since May. I was hoping they would get their act together at start of classes, and I guess that is what happened 2026-09-04 05:30:53 From the zabbix history, it started syncing again since August 4th 2026-09-04 05:32:07 Huh, I thought I had manually perused the mirror earlier this week. Memory isn't would it should be I suppose 2026-09-04 05:32:41 s/isn't would/isn't what/ 2026-09-04 13:39:11 i'm assuming some requests time out because they don't use the cache. how often does gitaly run git maintenance? 2026-09-04 15:10:13 invoked: I suspect it's trying to fetch all commits touching that path instead of some limit and then timing out 2026-09-04 15:24:46 invoked: gitaly runs maintenance daily 2026-09-04 15:25:14 ok. though, if that was in redis (i think the cache is redis?) it should still come back quickly unless it's just too large of a result. 2026-09-04 15:25:48 If it already times out before getting the result, it can never be cached 2026-09-04 15:26:01 And I'm not sure if those kinds of things are even cached in redis 2026-09-04 15:26:57 i'm not sure either. i'm just assuming what i might do (tuple values caching the git log) 2026-09-04 15:29:01 invoked: https://runbooks.gitlab.com/redis/redis-survival-guide-for-sres/#why-do-we-use-it seems to imply it does 2026-09-04 15:30:03 But not sure if that's specific to the gitlab.com deployment 2026-09-04 15:31:47 looks like some of it is. also, i just don't understand rails 2026-09-04 20:23:03 is there a known problem with qt5 and alpine and wayland? i got this qt5 app that wants to use the "xcb" backend which obviously under wayland doesn't work, and then crashes. i wonder if this is an app-specific bug somehow or a qt5 packaging issue 2026-09-04 20:24:33 (i'm on postmarketOS to make matters more complicated. but i'm guessing they probably just use the alpine qt, although correct me if i'm wrong) 2026-09-04 20:25:51 since this list is empty: https://pkgs.postmarketos.org/packages?name=qt5-*&branch=main&repo=&arch=&origin= and on pkgs.alpinelinux.org they show up 2026-09-04 20:27:13 What's the software you have issues with? 2026-09-04 20:59:13 postmarketOS ships stuff on top of the Alpine repositories. If it's not in pmOS repos but you can install it, it comes from Alpine. So yes, Qt5 comes from Alpine. What application do you have the problem with? 2026-09-04 20:59:33 We're actively trying to get rid of Qt5 btw, since it basically isn't maintained anymore by Qt itself 2026-09-04 22:10:17 "What's the software you have..." <- deltatouch 2026-09-04 22:10:59 "We're actively trying to get rid..." <- yeah i think deltatouch is working on a qt6 port too but since it's also used on lomiri there was some interference there, not sure. anyway for now it's qt5 only and breaks without xwayland. and i've wondered if that's a qt5 packaging bug or a deltatouch bug 2026-09-04 22:11:04 (it's not in the alpine repos i built it from source) 2026-09-04 22:11:17 basically i'm trying to find out where to report the bug 2026-09-04 22:12:17 even specifying QT_QTA_PLATFORM=wayland didn't make it work, for somer eason 2026-09-04 22:59:03 It is possible for qt applications to require not using wayland. Doesn't need to be a bug 2026-09-04 22:59:29 IIRC krita did/does that 2026-09-04 23:22:43 jvvv: are you here? 2026-09-05 01:40:56 Missed em again 2026-09-05 01:41:49 "It is possible for qt applicatio..." <- oh interesting, thanks for the info! i filed a bug with deltatouch for now 2026-09-05 01:46:08 okay i just realized keepassxc is also affected, as packaged by alpine 2026-09-05 01:46:39 although i suppose with the paste integration and other stuff keepass is doing, maybe it might be asking for the x11 backend on purpose too 2026-09-05 01:46:50 but it's a bit unfortunate that it won't even open up without x11 2026-09-05 01:52:41 https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/aports/-/work_items/18429 i filed a bug here now for keepassxc, i guess whether it's a qt5 thing or not will hopefully be uncovered in the process 2026-09-05 03:06:49 el[m]: A similar error message was reported in #18429 (as a comment, the problem I faced was due to an exported env variable) 2026-09-05 03:07:31 Sorry, #17426 2026-09-05 11:39:42 Why is llvm-mingw not in repositories? It's present in aports and has arch="aarch64 x86_64" 2026-09-05 11:40:52 Never mind, my bad 2026-09-05 12:52:20 @WhyNotHugo what was the issue ? 2026-09-05 12:52:38 I was looking at the wrong APKBUILD, there's no commited package with that name. 2026-09-05 12:52:43 I.e.: PEBKAC 2026-09-05 13:27:58 Can someone guide me where to raise the ulimits nofile limits for a podman rootless container? I found different manuals where to edit, but till now nothing setting in a config seemed to apply. 2026-09-05 13:27:58 `ulimit -n 4096` allowed for raising the soft limit up to the hard limit for a user (interestingly permanent, assumed that wouldn't survive a reboot) - that worked and is also applied to the container in the users context, but the settings in `/etc/security/limits.conf` doesn't seem to be used to define the users limit. 2026-09-05 13:32:26 https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/PAM - so I still need PAM, that't the only problem and that's also the "intended" way to solve this problem? 2026-09-05 14:01:28 RoyalTiger[m]: limits.conf is read and applied by PAM. Otherwise, you need root (or CAP_SYS_RESOURCE) to increase the hard limit. 2026-09-06 01:25:50 Meanwhile btw found /etc/rc.conf, wasn't aware of that and that there is even an outcommented entry for raising the systemwide limit. 2026-09-06 01:25:50 Found it finally over some forum in the OpenRC deepwiki: https://deepwiki.com/OpenRC/openrc/9.2-resource-limits 2026-09-06 01:26:44 that is not system-wide, that is specifically for services started by OpenRC 2026-09-06 01:40:33 Yeah, "systemwide" is the wrong term in this context. But it applies in the context of my OpenRC run podman containers and that's what solved my problem without going over PAM. 2026-09-06 01:42:51 * Meanwhile btw found /etc/rc.conf, wasn't aware of that and that there is even an outcommented entry for raising the systemwide limit for all OpenRC services. 2026-09-06 01:42:51 Found it finally over some forum in the OpenRC deepwiki: https://deepwiki.com/OpenRC/openrc/9.2-resource-limits 2026-09-06 06:38:43 Hi! I have a server running alpine 3.24 and just noticed that incus-feature is quite behind edge (7.0.0 vs 7.4.0) even though it's in community. The I noticed that even the non-feature incus package is ahead of incus feature (7.0.1). So I considered switching to the regular incus package but then noticed that the sub packages are not quite the same, there is an incus-feature-oci package 2026-09-06 06:38:43 but no incus-oci. Anyone have some insights into reasons for any of those three observations? Thanks in advance! 2026-09-06 13:28:18 bananicorn: incus and other packages in stable are typically freezed unless security fixes are available. 2026-09-06 14:00:22 f_: I see, it appears I misunderstood the way that updates work in stable branches, thanks :) 2026-09-06 14:00:37 Any idea regarding the absence of "incus-oci"? 2026-09-06 14:00:42 nope 2026-09-06 14:00:54 sorry