2026-06-01 00:50:45 <WhyNotHugo> Can somebody provide some insight regarding  update_config_sub on #18225
2026-06-01 01:00:55 <mio> el[m]1: not sure about the cause, sorry
2026-06-01 01:09:11 <infinitywisdom[m]> Ok so it is definitely the GNOME section of the setup-desktop script that is broken
2026-06-01 01:09:40 <infinitywisdom[m]> I just did a manual installation of gnome and it worked.
2026-06-01 01:10:07 <infinitywisdom[m]> Although I will say that there is a lot of gnome packages missing doing it manually and some of them are not even loading right.
2026-06-01 01:10:20 <infinitywisdom[m]> Like gnome terminal for instance. that won't even start.
2026-06-01 01:16:49 <infinitywisdom[m]> Does anyone know who is in charge of gnome for alpine linux, or the setup-desktop script?
2026-06-01 01:19:03 <longnoserob[m]> team/gnome
2026-06-01 01:19:35 <longnoserob[m]> best is probably if you document your findings in an aports issue
2026-06-01 01:21:15 <infinitywisdom[m]> What is the best way to get in touch with them in real time?
2026-06-01 01:23:26 <longnoserob[m]> maybe check the alpine-devel channel?
2026-06-01 01:23:39 <infinitywisdom[m]> Is thatr bridged to matrix too?
2026-06-01 01:23:54 <infinitywisdom[m]> s/thatr/that/
2026-06-01 01:23:57 <longnoserob[m]> guess so
2026-06-01 01:25:53 <infinitywisdom[m]> longnoserob[m]: Found  it
2026-06-01 01:25:54 <infinitywisdom[m]> thank you
2026-06-01 01:32:48 <longnoserob[m]> good
2026-06-01 06:09:14 <ptrckd> Hey folks. I'm noticing that my window manager gets a dbus session bus under /tmp due the dbus session.conf file (and being launched via dbus-run-session) and another dbus session bus gets created under /run/user due to the openrc user config file. It's causing some issues due to programs getting different addresses depending on how they are launched. Have I set this up wrong?
2026-06-01 06:21:17 <realroot[m]> I do not use dbus-run-session but tinydm
2026-06-01 06:42:28 <ptrckd> I'm wondering if dbus-run-session is redundant with the user service creating one. It is a well known path so maybe I can have greetd provide it to the wm. 
2026-06-01 06:45:11 <realroot[m]> i think so
2026-06-01 06:49:48 <realroot[m]> with the user service is redundant
2026-06-01 08:17:19 <grawity> ptrckd: that's basically how it went in systemd – the user bus was originally for background stuff, but eventually having two became an issue, and the user bus became used as the one and only session bus (with the "one GUI session per UID" limit arising from that)
2026-06-01 08:18:25 <grawity> I don't know how far openrc implements user services, but either way, once you have a user-wide bus, it's *probably* better to use that for everything, and dbus-run-session then becomes redundant
2026-06-01 10:04:18 <Sertonix[m]> WhyNotHugo: Maybe a missing cd thing. Will take a look later
2026-06-01 10:07:34 <ptrckd> Okay, that worked. I used a wrapper script similar to what greetd says to do for sway and sourced the address from the openrc dbus user config.
2026-06-01 10:17:47 <ptrckd> One other thing I stumbled on when cleaning up my neovim config... The neovim pkg symlinks the tree-sitter parsers from /usr/lib/tree-sitter such that neovim can find it but it doesn't do something similar for the tree-sitter queries in /usr/share/tree-sitter. Is that intentional? If not I'd be interested in trying to submit a fix if someone could give me some idea of what I'd need to do.
2026-06-01 10:18:45 <Sertonix[m]> There is an open issue describing the issues for that
2026-06-01 10:29:47 <ptrckd> Thanks! I see #18217. 
2026-06-01 11:18:21 <runxiyu_> uhhh
2026-06-01 11:18:24 <runxiyu_> im outside right now
2026-06-01 11:18:31 <runxiyu_> but if it hasnt been merged yeti 
2026-06-01 11:18:43 <runxiyu_> please dont merge the arahli version bump
2026-06-01 11:18:56 <runxiyu_> theres an issue i spotted that ill need to fix when i get back home
2026-06-01 11:18:59 <runxiyu_> thanks!
2026-06-01 11:19:20 <runxiyu_> if it has been merged its fine too, just might be a hassle for reviewers to review another ME
2026-06-01 11:19:22 <runxiyu_> mr*
2026-06-01 11:44:13 <kopernic> gday, question: when is 2.24 planned?
2026-06-01 11:45:39 <ikke> kopernic: ASAP. We're blocked by the riscv64 builder, which hasn't finished building all packages yet
2026-06-01 11:46:52 <runxiyu_> 2.24?
2026-06-01 11:47:19 <runxiyu_> Oh, Alpine 3.24?
2026-06-01 11:47:43 <kopernic> (typo, yes, 3.24)
2026-06-01 11:56:48 <penguinz_rule[m]> i may have asked this before but is .24 moving to kernel 7.0
2026-06-01 11:57:12 <runxiyu_> IIRC 7.0 is not LTS?
2026-06-01 11:59:35 <penguinz_rule[m]> i thoufht there might have been an 7.x LTS, but i am apprehensive due to AI code ingestion
2026-06-01 12:01:33 <runxiyu_> I mean, after all Alpine uses Linux as the kernel
2026-06-01 12:01:43 <runxiyu_> If you get my point
2026-06-01 12:05:27 <cve> hey
2026-06-01 12:05:43 <cve> has anyone experience in launching an alpine install iso/image from kexec?
2026-06-01 12:06:20 <cve> I want to install alpine on my vserver using this, as I cannot upload custom ISOs there, similar to how one can do this with OpenBSD's bsd.rd
2026-06-01 12:06:26 <ewo> cve: I don't but I know zfsbootmenu does it
2026-06-01 12:06:36 <ewo> well, not images but it uses kexec
2026-06-01 12:07:59 <ewo> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Kexec
2026-06-01 12:08:02 <ewo> might be of use
2026-06-01 12:12:03 <cve> fwiw, the vserver is currently on NixoS
2026-06-01 12:25:32 <ewo> cve: hope someone else can help you, I'm not too clued up on it
2026-06-01 13:07:58 <durrendal> cve: not kexec, but I have used extlinux to overwrite the /boot partition on a remote Debian VPS then boot from the virt iso using that. Similar processish
2026-06-01 13:08:51 <durrendal> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Replacing_non-Alpine_Linux_with_Alpine_remotely <- essentially what's outlined here
2026-06-01 13:29:50 <cve> durrendal: is it possible to wipe the boot partition during the process? like does it load the image fully into memory first?
2026-06-01 13:30:51 <durrendal> note that it's a sample size of like 2, but at least in my experience I was able to unmount my /boot partition and wipe/reinstall it as part of the process
2026-06-01 13:31:21 <durrendal> I'd recommend practicing on a VM if you can recreate a facsimile of your target environment
2026-06-01 13:33:50 <yeti> """11:18:31 runxiyu_ │ but if it hasnt been merged yeti"""  <<<  and I really do not expect to get merged.  far too buggy!  ;-P
2026-06-01 15:35:38 <frag> does busybox tar invcrementaly update, eg if i backup 250GB dir to fil.tar every month?
2026-06-01 16:04:37 <el[m]1> i'm on a postmarketOS system (hence feel free to send me away if this is too off-topic) and it seems like there's either an install user error on my behalf or a packaging issue with the out of tree drivers, and "akms build all" just hangs with no CPU load. is there some akms expert here who could help me extract a better error message so i can figure out if it's my fault or what might be going on? sorry again if this is the wrong room or
2026-06-01 16:04:37 <el[m]1> not a useful thing to try
2026-06-01 17:31:56 <personman> hii
2026-06-01 17:32:18 <personman> hii dude is anyone here
2026-06-01 17:33:38 <personman> hello
2026-06-01 17:41:44 <el[m]1> 🫣
2026-06-01 18:01:58 <frag> dude, wheres my chan?
2026-06-01 18:06:43 <f_> el[m]1: postmarketOS doesn't really support akms