2025-08-01 08:29:17 Saijin_Naib[m]: Probably not, if it doesn't you can add "https://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/testing" to /etc/apk/repositories 2025-08-01 09:39:06 sertonix[m]: They're not cleaned up on failure. 2025-08-01 09:49:23 I hate web browsers with a passion. 2025-08-01 09:49:33 Launch one on your computer, it's impossible to do anything on the side 2025-08-01 09:54:16 Lets boycott the www! Its mostly missinfo, censorship, propaganda and AI that makes you dumb anyway. 2025-08-01 09:58:57 Sorry just venting a bit, being in work meetings, opening a side window, the whole computer goes down for minutes 2025-08-01 09:59:13 quinq: links -g is a good alternative in most cases for me 2025-08-01 09:59:25 aron, not for “video meetings” :( 2025-08-01 09:59:52 sadly :\ 2025-08-01 09:59:58 Or freaking Atlassion suite 2025-08-01 10:00:05 ouch 2025-08-01 10:00:05 s/sion/sian/ 2025-08-01 10:00:40 no browsing web during work meetings. 2025-08-01 11:03:37 Saijin_Naib[m]: Probably not, if it doesn't you can add "https://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/testing" to /etc/apk/repositories 2025-08-01 11:03:37 postmarketos edge enables testing repos by default 2025-08-01 11:43:55 hi everyone. does alpine support flashing android mobile devices? i can see there's an android-tools package in the community repo which has adb/fastboot but i wanted a confirmation that the pkg works. i couldn't find any details on the mailing lists or online. thx 2025-08-01 11:44:52 just for the record i'm trying to flash lineage os into my android mobile 2025-08-01 11:48:19 the package works 2025-08-01 11:48:39 we're flashing android devices everyday with the package in postmarketos 2025-08-01 11:49:15 alrighty great. thx a lot for confirming! 2025-08-01 15:54:21 install grep > /usr/bin/grep is a file. uninstall grep > /usr/bin/grep is a symlink to busybox. how does this work internally? grep is used as example here. any docs / source file would be helpful. 2025-08-01 15:55:39 https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/aports/-/blob/master/main/busybox/busybox.trigger#L22 2025-08-01 15:56:53 busybox --install -s is what's creating those symlinks, but does not overwrite files 2025-08-01 15:58:27 so, installing grep overwrite the symlink? 2025-08-01 16:28:14 More like the busybox link is removed and then grep is installed 2025-08-01 18:39:09 quinq: is it done in that busybox.trigger file too or processed by other program? 2025-08-01 18:39:40 that's what apk itself does 2025-08-01 18:39:47 because you install a package that contains those files 2025-08-01 18:44:19 would apk also do the same if two packages have same file and path? 2025-08-01 18:45:35 apk would declare a conflict 2025-08-01 19:01:44 After upgrading from 3.21 to 3.22 my system regularly grinds to a halt while running Firefox, over a dozen times per day requiring restarts. No clue what is going on. Hopefully it's just my hardware failing. 2025-08-01 19:31:15 orchard: sounds kernel related, what version are you running? I would try with kernel from 3.21 2025-08-01 19:34:56 "Hopefully it's just my hardware failing" lol. 2025-08-01 19:37:01 could also be the house on fire :D 2025-08-01 21:07:59 donoban: I'm running 6.12.40-0-lts. Yea maybe downgrading kernel could help 2025-08-02 08:42:31 do you use amdgpu? There was some problem with it that forced me to run older kernel 2025-08-02 08:43:10 https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/aports/-/issues/16920 2025-08-02 09:00:40 Hi. The openldap package in Alpine is lagging two versions behind upstream but is not listed in the flagged package overview ... 2025-08-02 09:01:31 A mapping on "release-monitoring.org" exists for it but something apparently isn't working in that setup ... 2025-08-02 09:01:46 Is there a way I can make the maintainer aware of the issue? 2025-08-02 09:06:43 best is probably opening an issue on https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/aports/-/issues 2025-08-02 09:07:06 or prepare a MR 2025-08-02 09:17:47 longnoserob[m], can you please elaborate on the "or prepare a MR" part? I have not contributed to Alpine before 2025-08-02 09:21:10 irreleph4nt: fork aports, create a local clone of it, edit the APKBUILD file with the new release info, push the hcanges to your fork, open the MR.. for more details see https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Git 2025-08-02 09:22:12 longnoserob[m], much appreciated, thank you! 2025-08-02 09:22:27 yw 2025-08-02 09:35:53 Looking at the Alpine wiki article for OpenLDAP, the package is a mess to begin with. Best to avoid it, I guess. 2025-08-02 11:27:51 irreleph4nt: you can flag the package out of date here: https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/main/x86_64/openldap 2025-08-02 11:29:11 oh, just realized that manual flagging is disabled, my bad. 2025-08-02 11:48:37 donoban: "do you use amdgpu", no my computer uses Intel HD Graphics (baytrail), which works with the intel-media-driver package, intel_gpu_top confirms it works but sometimes the entire screen glitches. But he screen doesn't glitch when the system grinds to a halt while using firefox 2025-08-02 11:49:42 main issue is still the system freezing while using firefox, even with only 1-2 tabs open 2025-08-02 11:49:43 well if it worked fine with previous version you could try downgrading kernel for check if helps 2025-08-02 11:50:00 with freezing you mean need to hard reboot? 2025-08-02 11:50:39 it resembles what happens when memory gets filled completely, requiring hard reboot 2025-08-02 11:51:02 although i haven't caught it in a runaway memory scenario in htop yet 2025-08-02 11:51:28 i'm concerned about the security implications of running an old kernel indefinitely, but if that's what fixes it I guess I'll do it 2025-08-02 11:55:07 well old kernels still maintaned 2025-08-02 11:56:25 I'm running kernel from "@old http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.20/main" 2025-08-02 11:56:45 I should check if my problem is fixed, but that version stills supported until 2026 2025-08-02 12:01:42 orchard: You could just use linux-lts without repository pinning if you are running linux-stable rn 2025-08-02 12:03:11 You may check kernel logs from previous run after rebooting to check what happened as well (if you didn't yet) 2025-08-02 12:04:52 donoban: I'm on 6.12.40-0-lts, what 3.22 uses right now 2025-08-02 12:06:38 my option is to use the 3.20 kernel, linux-lts-6.6.100-r0.apk ? 2025-08-02 12:07:04 what is the proper way to downgrade to that and also recieve updates? 2025-08-02 12:07:30 it seems that there is a linux-stable and a linux-lts branch 2025-08-02 12:07:39 so you can just do: "apk add linux-lts" 2025-08-02 12:07:58 ah you are on ls already 2025-08-02 12:08:10 so.. I would pin the old repo that worked fine for you 2025-08-02 12:08:15 was 3.21? 2025-08-02 12:08:36 3.21 has the same lts 2025-08-02 12:08:48 3.21 upgraded to the newer kenel shortly before 3.22 2025-08-02 12:09:01 but I did that same day so still could be the kernel 2025-08-02 12:09:18 i would need to pin 3.20 2025-08-02 12:09:29 ok so add in /etc/apk/repositories 2025-08-02 12:09:33 or whatever you did... 2025-08-02 12:09:39 @old http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.20/main 2025-08-02 12:09:47 and then do: "apk add linux-lts@old" 2025-08-02 12:09:58 thank you! :) 2025-08-02 12:10:02 hope it helps 2025-08-02 12:11:08 i guess to reverse it, i just do 'apk del linux-lts@old', then remove line in repositories then 'apk add linux-lts' 2025-08-02 12:11:47 hopefully 2025-08-02 12:12:19 yeah 2025-08-02 12:12:36 maybe you have to remove linux-lts first for install the @old 2025-08-02 12:13:30 orchard: you were already on linux-lts on 3.21 before upgrading to 3.22? 2025-08-02 12:13:42 yea for like 3 minutes 2025-08-02 12:14:04 Oh so weren't able to check if it worked, okay 2025-08-02 12:14:30 sorry i mean i was on the latest kernel on 3.21 (the latest upgrade) for about 3 minutes before upgrading to 3.22 2025-08-02 12:14:46 Remember to add the headers package if you have some kmod packages btw 2025-08-02 12:15:24 Hi, noob here. I... (full message at ) 2025-08-02 12:16:42 Asking the maintainer to add other architectures? 2025-08-02 12:16:47 fricht: you have it in edge for x86_64 2025-08-02 12:17:18 qontinuum: what's edge ? 2025-08-02 12:18:00 fricht: the "rolling release" repo 2025-08-02 12:18:25 The wiki says development tree* 2025-08-02 12:19:53 qontinuum i can't 'apk del linux-headers' before using linux-headers@old, due to packages depending on linux-headers 2025-08-02 12:20:25 wops, it complicates things 2025-08-02 12:20:59 apk doesn't allow downgrades? 2025-08-02 12:21:04 i'll just remove those packages... they aren't necessary nevermind 2025-08-02 12:21:40 well it "supports" but things are not tested for do them, so it could break things easily 2025-08-02 12:21:51 Fair 2025-08-02 12:21:52 downgrading kernel should be safe in most cases 2025-08-02 12:23:31 hi all skraito ( God Husband , The Earthquake guy ) your president and prime minister with skraitow ( Lord Jesus Christ skraito wife ) here , how are you all ? ... . 2025-08-02 12:25:33 (1/1) Installing linux-lts@old (6.6.100-r0) -> I don't get how this receives updates, the 3.20 branch is still pushing new 6.6 kernels? 2025-08-02 12:34:57 orchard: the main repository is maintained for 2 years and linux 6.6 is still a maintained LTS branch 2025-08-02 12:35:41 There was a release today actually so you should get an update dmto 6.6.101 soon 2025-08-02 12:35:52 Yesterday* 2025-08-02 12:36:44 :p 2025-08-02 12:36:48 is a virus 2025-08-02 12:37:15 anyway 2025-08-02 12:37:27 AstaraOS already been release 2025-08-02 12:37:34 good luck to you all 2025-08-02 12:37:45 already release i mean 2025-08-02 12:48:26 It's been a while since I installed Alpine. Does the installer scripts replicate the live system into the disk? 2025-08-02 12:48:45 With the same configuration? I don't remember I needed to configure networking twice on my VPS 2025-08-02 12:50:35 there is Alpine AstaraOS real linux 2025-08-02 12:50:44 rather then this virus linux 2025-08-02 12:50:53 you guys wanna try it ? 2025-08-02 12:51:16 https://www.worldhacker.org/astaraos/ 2025-08-02 12:51:17 here 2025-08-02 12:51:24 :p super power 2025-08-02 12:51:32 military grade OS 2025-08-02 12:51:33 ooooh pj hero! 2025-08-02 12:51:49 I'm sorry but I lost op on irc so it is still spamming for irc users 2025-08-02 12:52:08 maybe dwfreed or some other oftc staff will kick it from net 2025-08-02 12:52:26 pj ? 2025-08-02 12:52:30 you want to kick me ? 2025-08-02 12:52:47 i just laugh so hard 2025-08-02 12:52:55 good luck with Our virus linux 2025-08-02 12:52:58 aline 2025-08-02 12:53:01 alpine 2025-08-02 12:53:03 :) 2025-08-02 12:53:09 see ya noob 2025-08-02 12:53:47 Did the guy just admit he is spreading a virus? 2025-08-02 12:54:04 I'm confused as to what just happened lol 2025-08-02 12:54:07 also another question. Do Alpine users have "standard" ways to get latest softwares? Like latest kernel, latest mesa and so on. Cuz you have a too new hardware. 2025-08-02 12:54:51 Farooq: for the install scripts yeah it is supposed to persist your stuff on disk, you could also use lbu 2025-08-02 12:55:30 For the latest software if the latest release isn't enough you have to move to edge or to pin certain packages but it can become hard to maintain 2025-08-02 12:55:32 Farooq[MasterPatata][m]: well, if you keep using latest alpine release then you should be fairly up2date 2025-08-02 12:55:33 so if I remember correctly, you configure the live thing and then it gets cloned to the disk? am I right? 2025-08-02 12:55:37 other than that there is edge 2025-08-02 12:56:48 Farooq: well you can just run setup-alpine, it does the minimal install on disk and then you reboot into installed system. That's the "standard" way 2025-08-02 12:57:43 I'm asking because I was on Debian and I bought an Arc GPU. Then my problem was that the XPU cores were not supported on Debian. Both Mesa and the Kernel were too old. Then I had to make hacks to get it working which I finally did. But I had a hacked system and things break. Now I've moved to Arch and I enjoy support for my hardware. But Arch releases updates too fast. I wonder where is Alpine in this 2025-08-02 12:58:34 well, debian is quite stale in supporting things so you should be mostly fine on alpine 2025-08-02 12:58:52 Alpine is fixed release but has a way shorter release cycle so you nay have what you need in latest point release as it happened recently 2025-08-02 12:59:36 alpine usually uses latest versions with minor exceptions but a release happens every 6 months so it's usually supporting most stuff 2025-08-02 13:00:41 qontinuum, I'm creating a custom ISO for a node web app. So I guess I should modify the current installer to set up networking(cuz it's gonna get installed on a VPS), install it on Disk and then chroot into it. Ask user the questions, configure and deploy the webapp and finally reboot the machine to get into the installation. 2025-08-02 13:01:13 @panekj:matrix.org @_oftc_qontinuum:matrix.org Thank you I think I got answer of second question 2025-08-02 13:02:38 You don't actually need to interact with the system to use the installer. You can provide an answerfile 2025-08-02 13:03:03 donoban: so far things seem much snappier on the older kernel, also had to downgrade my wifi card, cuz it's an old ass kernel, but this probably solved everything 2025-08-02 13:03:20 Also would you recommend Alpine for Desktop usage? I remember long ago, people were saying it's no good for Desktop. But now I see Alpine has got `setup-x` and `setup-wayland` 2025-08-02 13:03:56 Farooq: as always, it depends on your needs 2025-08-02 13:04:00 @_oftc_qontinuum:matrix.org ah yeah of course. But for nginx and SSL certificate, I guess I need to write my own script and ask the user what domain are they going to use. 2025-08-02 13:04:38 I have used alpine as daily drive desktop long time ago, it works and most of the stuff can be done, but really depends what you're looking for 2025-08-02 13:04:41 Ah yep but that's beyond alpine install itself 2025-08-02 13:06:16 For UX purposes, the user shouldn't need to do configurations after the reboot. I guess I install nginx and ACME client on the live OS, get certificates and install them on the machine. As for the node app, I can simply do a chroot. 2025-08-02 13:06:57 Also I see some distros don't need manually configuration of networking when installed on a VPS, I guess that's what cloudinit does. How is this well supported on Alpine? 2025-08-02 13:07:31 The goal is deploying the web app with sensible defaults and with least interaction from the user on the technical level. 2025-08-02 13:07:32 Farooq[MasterPatata][m]: alpine works fine for desktop usage 2025-08-02 13:08:19 yeah but I think it wasn't the case like 10 years ago 2025-08-02 13:08:33 well... 10 is too much. but like 6-8 2025-08-02 13:08:55 Farooq: what you are looking for is orchestration both on the infrastructure level and the system level it seems. Just use terraform and ansible or similar tools 2025-08-02 13:09:23 yeah makes sense 2025-08-02 13:09:29 thanks 2025-08-02 13:09:35 what about networking? 2025-08-02 13:10:27 Though I don't think Ansible will handle asking user the question and providing a custom ISO. I'll have to do that myself 2025-08-02 13:10:29 Or it does? 2025-08-02 13:14:48 Also another question. Where are the scripts which build aarch64 isos? It uses the wrong network driver for my board. I would be happy to send a patch when I've got the time. It seems no one else is interested in fixing it :) 2025-08-02 13:17:45 what is missing? the kernel module, the firmware? 2025-08-02 13:33:00 they are there. but the incorrect module is loaded 2025-08-02 13:33:04 I think 2025-08-02 13:40:51 maybe the kconfig needs to ba adjusted_ 2025-08-02 13:45:19 hmm can you please give me some queries so I could study? I'm not familiar with this level of the system, yet :) 2025-08-02 13:45:36 I guess you meant the kernel configuration needs to be adjusted. right? 2025-08-02 13:45:44 Hello, I am having an trouble getting zfs installed on a standard diskless install, I am using the update-kernel script to try and add the zfs modules but I get a large scroll of errors claiming UNTRUSTED signature and Operation not permitted. I have tried everything I can find including reinstalling the repo certs, remounting the boot media as rw, trying to install the zfs modules manually with apk. Any help would be great, 2025-08-02 13:45:44 thanks! 2025-08-02 13:45:45 yes 2025-08-02 13:45:47 When I do that, how do I build an ISO image? 2025-08-02 13:47:19 Farooq[MasterPatata][m]: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/How_to_make_a_custom_ISO_image_with_mkimage 2025-08-02 13:55:53 donoban: nevermind: seems downgrading kernel didn't do much, my guess is my hardware is failing but I appreciate you teaching me how to do that. It'll be useful in the future I'm sure and this old kernel supports my audio card better anyway 2025-08-02 14:02:45 i thought you were joking about your hardware. :( 2025-08-02 14:07:16 really not sure what is going on honestly 2025-08-02 14:07:31 i'll look through logs more next time it freezes 2025-08-02 14:08:09 it's possible the newer firefox just doesn't work well on 4GB machines and i'm missing when it puhes past available memory 2025-08-02 14:09:47 on other distros i'd normally just reinstall the entire OS but this is so customized it'd take forever 2025-08-02 14:11:40 modern browsers are so ridiculous 2025-08-02 14:11:47 agreed 2025-08-02 14:11:52 Well it should be oom killed if it is eating too much RAM 2025-08-02 14:13:55 firefox has never error exited the enire time i used alpine, which is quite a feat 2025-08-02 14:14:36 would happen daily on debian 2025-08-02 14:15:00 flatpak... 2025-08-02 14:30:27 i have an old 8gb laptop that i keep using. it's the only 13" i have and it's very comfortable for eg, the couch. 2025-08-02 14:30:47 i have better laptops. but, anyway, yeah... use a browser and it starts to get warm. 2025-08-02 14:33:59 "https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/..." <- yeah I know about this. I mean it's not something which ansible does for me. Right? 2025-08-02 14:34:21 Farooq[MasterPatata][m]: i dont think so 2025-08-02 14:34:29 Thanks 2025-08-02 14:34:49 invoked: 8GB is a lot if you want it for casual things 2025-08-02 14:36:53 taught myself ansible a few weeks ago and decided it was just a nightmare compared to shell scripts 2025-08-02 14:41:44 orchard: it definitely is, only useful when automating stuff for a fleet 2025-08-02 14:43:14 don't like the idea of a single computer, that if compromised also compromises the entire fleet 2025-08-02 14:43:37 so then there's the ansible-pull option, but that doesn't handle restarts well at all 2025-08-02 15:39:08 Would appreciate feedback on !88139 Took so many long nights to get that to build and them to actually run. 2025-08-02 15:51:09 > single computer, that if compromised also compromises the entire fleet 2025-08-02 15:51:23 i fail to see how is that caused by ansible anyhow 2025-08-02 15:56:55 WhyNotHugo: i've been working on this separately :-/ 2025-08-02 15:57:27 there's some discussion you might've missed out on between myself and sertonix[m] 2025-08-02 15:58:05 i can add some comments to your MR later 2025-08-02 15:58:45 Please do. I've been conservative in patching since I want to avoid changing any fingerprints 2025-08-02 15:59:19 not sure it will matter much either way. not everything gets spoofed 2025-08-02 15:59:32 not everything can be spoofed, rather. 2025-08-02 15:59:54 Yeah. Mostly, when unsure, I preferred to imitate other builds. 2025-08-02 16:00:21 I guess we both should have mentioned this earlier to avoid duplicate work. I've been slowly hacking on this for a few weeks now. 2025-08-02 16:01:00 i think you've taken it further because i never submitted anything :) although i did get it working. 2025-08-02 16:01:55 I'm also working on ROCM. Stuck trying to get llvm-rocm to build, but I'll send the aprots for rocm-cmake and rocm-core 2025-08-02 16:02:14 my take on it is, we can do a little better than the flatpak version. which i think is true, but i'm trying to quantify that precisely. 2025-08-02 16:02:38 The flatpak version disables some sandboxing, due to how flatpak limits nested sandboxes. 2025-08-02 16:02:46 right 2025-08-02 16:11:14 The flatpak "launcher" also has an updater which deletes all your bookmarks when you update it :( 2025-08-02 16:11:19 Guess how I found out 2025-08-02 16:22:19 Also, in the flatpak tor-browser, saving files or printing doesn't work. 2025-08-02 16:22:29 I think it requires that one configures a set of portals for the file picker 2025-08-02 16:22:36 It "just works" with the native alpine builds 2025-08-02 16:26:38 WhyNotHugo: Wait there's a native torbrowser build 2025-08-02 16:26:39 ? 2025-08-02 16:26:50 I'm using the flatpak version of torbrowser-launcher right now 2025-08-02 16:30:09 f_: They are working on a package 2025-08-02 16:30:24 Ah, that's nice. 2025-08-02 16:30:39 I'm interested, I use Tor Browser, the flatpak one at the moment 2025-08-02 16:30:59 but it'd be nice to replace it with a native apk package 2025-08-02 17:02:06 f_: !88139 2025-08-02 17:02:27 Is there even a point in running a custom built torbrowser? 2025-08-02 17:02:52 qontinuum: it's not a custom build, trying to keep it as vanilla as possible. 2025-08-02 17:03:55 Yeah but even the fact of having a different build even if done with the same config and all make you stand out 2025-08-02 17:04:41 It is the reason why (at least at some point) the documentation discouraged recompiling it 2025-08-02 17:05:12 WhyNotHugo: yeah I saw in the scrollback, thanks :) 2025-08-02 17:05:19 The official builds are dynamically linked are require glibc. Distros which don't use glibc need to provide their own package. 2025-08-02 17:30:44 qontinuum: alpine/flatpak users stick out already, so this is an attempt to improve over the flatpak install. 2025-08-02 17:39:56 WhyNotHugo: invoked: did you tell #tor about it to ask for recommendations or something? 2025-08-02 18:28:04 f_: yeah, i'm in touch with them. 2025-08-02 18:28:50 nice 2025-08-02 18:29:32 not really much at this stage. i'm testing to see what needs to be covered. 2025-08-02 18:29:45 still nice 2025-08-02 19:22:20 f_: it didn't ocurr to me (obvious in hindsight) 2025-08-02 19:22:42 Now that we have a working build with an *almost* identical fingerprint, is a good time to loop them in 2025-08-02 20:10:12 hi 2025-08-02 20:23:58 Hi! Do you recommend the creation of multiple packages that contain pre-compiled binaries for different architectures? I create just one package, all binaries are downloaded regardless of the architecture. 2025-08-02 20:27:04 why are you downloading precompiled binaries? 2025-08-02 21:05:29 Hi. Can someone please tell me what the standard location for pid-files is on Alpine? 2025-08-02 22:24:18 /run/$RC_SVCNAME.pid 2025-08-02 22:24:31 (for most openrc services) 2025-08-02 23:31:45 achill, thank you! :) 2025-08-03 06:51:12 How do I make OpenRC wait until networkmanager successfully connects to a network? nginx and redis won't start without the connection being established 2025-08-03 06:52:55 swee: are you binding those services to a specific interface? Normally they should just listen on all interfaces and should not have any issue starting 2025-08-03 06:53:32 ikke, I have nginx set as a reverse proxy on some endpoints, and the config test fails because it can't use DNS when network isn't established 2025-08-03 06:54:08 ah ok, dns 2025-08-03 07:15:40 there is the net-online initscript, but it's not a great solution; it would be better to eliminate that need from the nginx and redis configurations 2025-08-03 07:17:52 (or if possible, eliminate network mangler as the connection manager) 2025-08-03 07:21:52 swee: is there a reason why you use nm instead of ifupdown? It is simpler to handle in this case 2025-08-03 08:38:02 what about iwd? 2025-08-03 08:47:43 ifupdown is for ethernet iirc, so that's an entirely different sort of solution. 2025-08-03 08:50:08 No one mentioned wireless networks but you can also setup wireless networks in ifupdown using hooks but at this point yeah iwd would be easier even if I don't know you can wait for connection when starting iwd 2025-08-03 08:57:16 i have partitions for / and /home, both encrypted with dmcrypt and on separate drives, and they are both part of separate logical volumes using lvm. using rc_parallel=YES breaks booting because the logical volume for /home isn't found. i can't figure out what's wrong, can someone point me in the right direction? here are the logs: https://paste.sr.ht/~witcher/5c57d71601b8196fd48cb144169d967a86aaf206 2025-08-03 08:58:37 sorry, not logical volume, it's the volume group that isn't activated 2025-08-03 09:01:00 You might have to assemble that volume group in an initramfs 2025-08-03 09:02:10 Either that, or try and modify the init scripts to require whatever assembles the volume group so that they wait until it's finished. 2025-08-03 09:02:13 Show your /etc/conf.d/dmcrypt 2025-08-03 09:04:15 here's the /etc/conf.d/dmcrypt: https://paste.sr.ht/~witcher/233cfa2c025ff5abfb1403d68b52853a9373651b 2025-08-03 09:09:00 Ah, lvm isn't dependent on dmcrypt 2025-08-03 09:09:48 i had the feeling it's something about dependencies :D would rc_need=lvm in /etc/conf.d/dmcrypt solve that? 2025-08-03 09:10:42 err, other way around 2025-08-03 09:10:48 This or maybe make dmcrypt provide device-mapper 2025-08-03 09:12:02 Yeah maybe rc_need is better as you don't always want to wait for dmcrypt to do lvm 2025-08-03 09:12:29 i'll try that then 2025-08-03 09:14:38 that was it! should have trusted my gut a bit more i guess. thank for the help! 2025-08-03 09:19:32 what is syntax of the answer file? 2025-08-03 09:20:07 what answer file? 2025-08-03 09:20:17 for `setup-alpine` 2025-08-03 09:29:10 Iirc it is just about setting env variables for the different scripts used by setup-alpine 2025-08-03 09:29:14 https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_setup_scripts#setup-alpine 2025-08-03 09:32:48 hmm I don't get it. Isn't there `-f` to provide an answer file to automatically configure things? 2025-08-03 09:32:51 Yeah it just sources it https://git.alpinelinux.org/alpine-conf/tree/setup-alpine.in#n92 2025-08-03 09:33:32 oh I see so the envs are in the answer file 2025-08-03 09:33:33 thanks 2025-08-03 11:40:43 how make virt package for so:libsolid.so (no such package): 2025-08-03 11:41:57 764517 2025-08-03 11:42:15 sorry 2025-08-03 11:42:32 Now I know your totp code 2025-08-03 11:43:29 where is the right channel to ask about kernel compiling? 2025-08-03 11:43:43 #alpine-devel 2025-08-03 11:44:04 Only about a quater 2025-08-03 11:44:06 Or specific arch channels if it's a dedicated kernel 2025-08-03 11:46:32 what is a general arch channel where can I start ? 2025-08-03 11:48:35 #alpine-devel 2025-08-03 11:48:49 Note that you have to be a bit patient 2025-08-03 12:11:03 realroot[m]: what are you trying to achieve? abuild automatically adds provides to packages that contain a certain library (note that those provides should be versioned, though) 2025-08-03 12:11:55 apk traces so:libsolid.so which maybe is from freesolid 2025-08-03 12:12:03 source="$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz::https://forge.a-lec.org/speed-dreams/speed-dreams-code/archive/v$pkgver.tar.gz 2025-08-03 12:12:03 freesolid-$freesolid_commit.tar.gz::https://forge.a-lec.org/speed-dreams/freesolid/archive/$freesolid_commit.tar.gz 2025-08-03 12:13:15 libsolid.so doesn't exist in Alpine 2025-08-03 12:13:18 realroot[m]: you will need to package freesolid separately. 2025-08-03 12:13:22 whatever youre doing something else is wrong 2025-08-03 12:13:54 idk how to build it 2025-08-03 12:15:08 this should work too https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/dev-games/freesolid/freesolid-2.1.2.ebuild 2025-08-03 12:16:01 use `newapkbuild -C`, etc. 2025-08-03 12:22:38 -- Installing: /.../freesolid/pkg/freesolid/usr/include/SOLID/types.h 2025-08-03 12:22:38 >>> ERROR: freesolid: package failed 2025-08-03 12:25:56 cause of amove 2025-08-03 12:27:37 uhm pkg contains: pkg/freesolid/path/freesolid/pkg/freesolid/usr/lib64/ 2025-08-03 12:28:28 nver mind 2025-08-03 13:10:47 hi, I just installed niri, but I can't figure out how to start it. There is no niri-session or anything. 2025-08-03 13:10:58 * hi, I just installed niri, but I can't figure out how to start it. There is no niri-session script or anything. 2025-08-03 13:16:43 fricht[m]: `exec dbus-run-session -- sway > .local/session.log 2>&1` 2025-08-03 13:17:14 that's how I start sway from the cmd line, and the exec closes the console shell. 2025-08-03 13:19:19 niri --session? 2025-08-03 13:19:28 https://github.com/YaLTeR/niri/wiki/Getting-Started 2025-08-03 13:50:08 "how make virt package for so:..." <- how force the package that needs that to install? 2025-08-03 13:52:02 You need to check where that dependency comes from in the first place 2025-08-03 13:52:16 What is depending on that library and why 2025-08-03 13:53:43 `provides="so:libsolid.so"` ? 2025-08-03 13:54:06 Is there something in the package that actually provides it? 2025-08-03 13:54:14 Just adding it randomly will not help 2025-08-03 13:54:26 yes there is 2025-08-03 13:54:57 both old upstream and new freesolid won't compile as a package 2025-08-03 13:58:37 >You need to recompile libsolid with the -fPIC flag. 2025-08-03 13:58:52 as plib 2025-08-03 14:07:25 realroot[m]: https://pastebin.com/xYaAUHf8 builds here. 2025-08-03 14:09:32 i mean speed-dreams won't compile with those as packages, they need CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -fPIC". it will compile using it as submodule 2025-08-03 14:10:51 what if I add `install -Dm 755 speed-dreams/freesolid/libsolid/libsolid.so "$pkgdir/usr/lib/games/speed-dreams-2/lib/libsolid.so"` in speed-dreams? as $pkgname-lib 2025-08-03 14:11:17 (src/speed-dreams-code/freesolid) 2025-08-03 14:21:32 Shelia I get `>>> ERROR: freesolid: Packages must not put anything under /usr/lib64, use /usr/lib instead 2025-08-03 14:21:33 ` 2025-08-03 14:26:45 it shouldn't, Alpine and Adélie both don't use lib64 and I built with that exact recipe on both. 2025-08-03 15:05:53 are you on edge? i am not 2025-08-03 15:47:09 upgraded a system to edge that uses wg-quick to connect to vpn, and now resolvconf errors out with a signature error on boot, wg-quick fails. might be related to: https://github.com/NetworkConfiguration/openresolv/issues/38 2025-08-03 15:47:42 (note, my resolv.conf is not immutable) 2025-08-03 15:48:05 i don't have time to look into this, but i did check gitlab and no mention of this problem yet. 2025-08-03 15:54:11 go back to 3.22 resolves the problem (no pun intended) 2025-08-03 15:58:58 Seems to be a deliberate upstream change 2025-08-03 15:59:37 yeah. 2025-08-03 16:00:17 i'm just surprised nobody else noticed this yet. 2025-08-03 16:00:34 so questioning reality/etc 2025-08-03 16:00:56 Are you using network-manager? 2025-08-03 16:01:10 nope. 2025-08-03 16:01:40 so, udhcpc -> wg-quick.wg0 -> resolvconf -> fail 2025-08-03 16:01:58 Does wg-quick modify resolv.conf? 2025-08-03 16:02:24 no, not that i know 2025-08-03 16:03:31 something probably needs to be patched with the libc subscriber for resolvconf. i dunno 2025-08-03 16:04:19 invoked: udhcpc would change resolv.conf 2025-08-03 16:04:23 Which you can disable 2025-08-03 16:04:52 that's desireable behavior (and default, therefore regression) 2025-08-03 16:05:23 openresolv basically says: if something else touches resolv.conf, we no longer touch it 2025-08-03 16:06:39 right but you can't bring wg-quick up without it (if there's a DNS line, i think). and if you disable resolvconf then you're stuck with the vpn's dns at boot, which may break things until the vpn gets back up. 2025-08-03 16:07:25 chicken/egg 2025-08-03 16:07:58 I think this change means you can no longer use openresolv with udhcpc (without disabling udhcpc touching /etc/resolv.conf) 2025-08-03 16:08:28 openresolv assumes hooks are in place where the dhcp client would notify it of new nameservers 2025-08-03 16:08:38 which udhcpc does not have 2025-08-03 16:09:06 is this OpenGl libs problem? Failed to load library /usr/lib/games/speed-dreams-2/modules/graphic/ssggraph.so (Error relocating /usr/lib/games/speed-dreams-2/modules/graphic/ssggraph.so: glBindProgramNV: symbol not found) 2025-08-03 16:11:44 ikke: right. so, i'm not sure what should happen here (for 3.23) 2025-08-03 16:12:23 invoked: possible we need to look into how to hook udhpc into openresolv 2025-08-03 16:12:36 anyway i gotta run. old lady to take care of. (sorry) 2025-08-03 16:12:42 no worry 2025-08-03 16:55:46 before apk did not want so:libsolid.so can I remove it ? i'd like to test. 2025-08-03 16:56:03 when running abuild with whatever I need to modify 2025-08-03 16:58:49 realroot[m]: What do you mean? 2025-08-03 17:03:08 Hummm, how is packages searching supposed to work with paths? 2025-08-03 17:03:17 https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/contents?file=&path=%2Fusr%2Flib%2Fgawk%2F*&name=&branch=edge&repo=&arch=x86_64 this returns nothing for example 2025-08-03 17:03:25 (looking for things under /usr/lib/gawk/) 2025-08-03 17:03:49 Help says “Please enter a package name, or file/path to search” 2025-08-03 17:03:56 quinq: the path is just the directory 2025-08-03 17:04:08 https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/contents?file=&path=%2Fusr%2Flib%2Fgawk&name=&branch=edge&repo=&arch=x86_64 2025-08-03 17:04:09 Also tried https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/contents?file=*&path=%2Fusr%2Flib%2Fgawk%2F&name=&branch=edge&repo=&arch= 2025-08-03 17:04:19 omit the final / 2025-08-03 17:04:33 hu, why? 2025-08-03 17:04:50 Because it's not part of the path 2025-08-03 17:05:09 Of course a / is part of a path 2025-08-03 17:05:45 imagine path=$(dirname "$filepath") 2025-08-03 17:06:00 and file=$(basename "$filepath") 2025-08-03 17:07:21 So the path entry is "/usr/lib/gawk" 2025-08-03 17:09:59 Hummm ok 2025-08-03 17:10:00 Thank you! 2025-08-03 17:10:04 or if a package has srcdir/app/someother/lib.so can I add it to the package itself? 2025-08-03 17:10:09 scanelf: rpath_security_checks(): Security problem NULL DT_RUNPATH in ./usr/lib/games/speed-dreams-2/lib/libsolid.so 2025-08-03 17:12:15 is that scanelf error a problem? 2025-08-03 17:13:39 No, most likely an issue with the library 2025-08-03 17:16:33 realroot[m]: scanelf --runpath ./usr/lib/games/speed-dreams-2/lib/libsolid.so 2025-08-03 17:16:46 realroot[m]: scanelf --rpath ./usr/lib/games/speed-dreams-2/lib/libsolid.so 2025-08-03 17:18:55 do I add that in APKBUILD? 2025-08-03 17:19:09 scanelf --runpath /usr/lib/games/speed-dreams-2/lib/libsolid.so 2025-08-03 17:19:09 scanelf: Unknown option '' or argument missing 2025-08-03 17:19:58 I install it from a submodule 2025-08-03 17:19:58 install -Dm 755 ../libsolid.so "$pkgdir/usr/lib/games/speed-dreams-2/lib/libsolid.so" 2025-08-03 17:19:58 cp freesolid/libsolid/libsolid.so ../ 2025-08-03 17:24:37 "niri --session?" <- i get this issue (closed without solution) https://github.com/YaLTeR/niri/issues/766 2025-08-03 17:36:44 the thing is that niri says it's for systemd 2025-08-03 20:04:40 there was a bug now it starts 2025-08-03 20:05:02 with PR 2025-08-03 22:27:49