2024-05-01 08:14:04 hi o/ qbittorrent-nox receives SIGSEV;; segmentation fault.... i'm confused (((( 2024-05-01 08:14:22 https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/v3.19/community/x86_64/qbittorrent-nox 2024-05-01 08:14:42 0x00007ffff6e32684 in QUtf8::convertToUnicode(char16_t*, QByteArrayView) () from /usr/lib/libQt6Core.so.6 2024-05-01 08:17:06 https://pastebin.com/7pDCU1H4 2024-05-01 08:23:20 user282069: how bizarre 2024-05-01 08:26:23 ACTION blinks 2024-05-01 08:34:28 heh 2024-05-01 08:55:15 here's a different error. thanks for reading (^^; https://pastebin.com/13KiWrww 2024-05-01 10:12:21 user282069: also bizarre 2024-05-01 10:12:32 user282069: (I'm reading but I don't have any intelligent suggestions, sorry :) 2024-05-01 10:13:02 you're missing some debug packages I think 2024-05-01 10:13:56 not sure which 2024-05-01 10:14:57 for you to be able to see the full back trace I mean 2024-05-01 10:16:32 cool. i should learn how to gdb sometime. is that indicated by the blank instructions for most frames? 2024-05-01 10:19:58 the ??? 2024-05-01 10:20:29 I mean I'm not sure, on my distro if I'm missing symbols I get a full backtrace regardless but it's lacking filenames, line numbers, etc. 2024-05-01 10:20:35 not sure how it is on alpine 2024-05-01 12:14:33 works fine if i build it. ty again o/ 2024-05-01 12:16:29 might want to open a pr relbumping it then 2024-05-01 12:16:46 if what you mean is that rebuilding the template fixes it 2024-05-01 12:19:02 i followed https://github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/wiki/Compilation-Alpine-Linux 2024-05-01 12:19:38 i looked at the build log for the package but not its template. that's a good idea >_< 2024-05-01 12:20:04 you could literally just rebuild the template and see if that fixes it 2024-05-02 03:06:45 do I have to build a new kernel to get iwlwifi on raspberry pi? 2024-05-02 09:27:32 cache_return: there's an rpi section on https://www.alpinelinux.org/downloads/ which I'm guessing provides everything you need out of the box for built-in/soc pi hardware, including a pi-specific kernel: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Kernels 2024-05-02 11:04:04 but the kernel does not include iwlwifi. So do I need to buikd my own kernel, or is there some other strategy available to add a module? 2024-05-02 11:04:53 There is akms to build modules on the fly, but not sure if that works / feasible for in-tree modules 2024-05-02 11:05:09 probably not as they are not meant to be compiled seperately 2024-05-02 11:05:13 but I have no idea 2024-05-02 15:12:15 signal-desktop seems to be crashing on launch now (most of the time). if i keep trying, eventually it will run without crashing. 2024-05-02 15:13:31 if i try using crashreporter, it will crash on that too. 2024-05-02 15:14:44 i have a hunch it's because i've got ipv6 disabled 2024-05-02 15:16:16 it works here (with ipv6 enabled but unconfigured because my ISP is terribad) 2024-05-02 15:17:39 [20885:0502/151124.929305:ERROR:bus.cc(407)] Failed to connect to the bus: Could not parse server address: Unknown address type (examples of valid types are "tcp" and on UNIX "unix") 2024-05-02 15:18:08 but it doesn't segfault at that point 2024-05-02 15:19:43 otoh, i still get those errors even when it does launch without crashing. 2024-05-02 15:27:56 'signal-desktop --disable-gpu' seems to help, but it's not 100%. so instead of crashing 9/10 times it crashes ~1/5 2024-05-02 15:29:02 tried a debugger or strace? 2024-05-02 15:31:23 yeah. but the context doesn't make sense. it's crashing at different points (but always after it initiates sql) 2024-05-02 15:34:32 maybe it's something to do with river (compositor), i dunno. i'll try running another electron app. 2024-05-02 15:39:06 installed element-desktop, get similar results. --disable-gpu helps prevent a crash though, but more interesting output: Error getting the event index passphrase out of the secret store [Error: Unknown or unsupported transport “disabled” for address “disabled:”] 2024-05-02 15:39:39 will try enabling ipv6 now... 2024-05-02 15:44:04 hunch wrong. that didn't change anything. :( time to hang up my spurs. 2024-05-02 15:51:23 downgrade electron? 2024-05-02 15:55:44 when i have more time i'll play around with versions. not today. anyway signal-desktop runs fine *if* it launches, it just means i have to keep trying until it does. 2024-05-02 15:57:55 forgot to mention, i've reproduced this across different machines, same configuration. 2024-05-02 18:13:17 is there a special package for address sanitizer support? I'm missing libasan_preinit.o, according to ld 2024-05-02 18:32:21 hi. I'm building software under alpine linux (not using abuild), as a part of CI. However since I also package this software, I would like to use CFLAGS/LDFLAGS as would be used by abuild. 2024-05-02 18:32:47 Is there a nice helper that can get me the flags I need? Or do I just grep /usr/share/abuild/default.conf? 2024-05-02 18:35:11 hmm, I don't think there is... that might get you the defaults but packages can mess with CFLAGS/LDFLAGS/etc internally 2024-05-02 18:35:23 using abuild (if you at all can) is by far gonna be the most reliable way 2024-05-02 18:35:42 sure, and I control what's in the packaging (but just rather not use it in CI for $reasons) 2024-05-02 22:17:34 Hi! Does anyone have any guidance on how to force a bootstrapping kernel to load a module in the initfs phase? This is related to https://irclogs.alpinelinux.org/%23alpine-linux-2024-04.log (search for ) 2024-05-02 22:19:39 Or how to ensure the initfs contains the module? 2024-05-02 23:10:12 Probably just ensuring it's contained in the initramfs. If the kernel doesn't bother with hardware detection at that phase (i.e. before mdev), then probably also have it loaded by the early init 2024-05-02 23:11:03 (I don't know much about what limitations might be present at this boot phase in terms of hardware detection and module autoloading) 2024-05-02 23:17:56 Hi all! Having problems running apk upgrade getting stuck at "fetch http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.19/main/x86_64/APKINDEX.tar.gz". I can curl this file on the same machine without issues. Any idea what may be causing the problem? 2024-05-02 23:19:53 (I am not running this from within Docker, this is a bare metal install) 2024-05-03 00:00:08 Hello! 2024-05-03 00:00:43 I from china 2024-05-03 00:01:26 Like play linux system 2024-05-03 01:04:41 My issue turned out to be an ipv6 issue of some sort? I turned it off and suddenly I could contact fastly. Strange. 2024-05-03 06:36:32 xtg: you'll want to make sure the module is mentioned somewhere in /etc/mkinitfs/features.d/*.modules... if it's already in one of those files, then you just need to add that file to features in /etc/mkinitfs/mkinitfs.conf... if it's not make a new file and add that to features... and I think you'll also want the module... you may also need something in /etc/modprobe.d to make 2024-05-03 06:36:34 it load, not entirely sure on that part 2024-05-03 06:50:35 iggy: awesome, thanks! I'll look into that 2024-05-03 06:54:41 I've unpacked the cpio that Alpine automatically built and did confirm the relevant module file is contained within. So it may just be a matter of forcing it to get loaded (via that modprobe.d mechanism you mentioned). Or failing that, I can try to modify the contained init to do a direct modprobe of the module. 2024-05-03 09:24:04 how do i enable keyboard and mouse input in alpine xorg 2024-05-03 09:26:17 if i do startx /usr/bin/i3 then i cannot type anything and i cannot move the mouse 2024-05-03 09:31:41 androidui: the easiest way is to add your user to the input group and login again 2024-05-03 09:32:06 I wonder why I never needed to do that. 2024-05-03 09:33:15 Some desktop environments take care of it 2024-05-03 09:42:44 how do i do that 2024-05-03 09:44:23 adduser input 2024-05-03 09:45:07 i was thinking about how useful the file abstraction might actually be the other day; it'd be nice if i could express communication channels to my friends in that way 2024-05-03 09:45:52 especially when i just wanna paste links and send them off in my own interface instead of the absolute ass of other things 2024-05-03 09:49:59 im doing sudo X -configure ; sudo mv ~/xorg.conf.new /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/alpine.conf -v ; sudo startx /usr/bin/xterm 2024-05-03 09:50:32 i also did sudo useradd root input ; sudo useradd alpine input then rebooted 2024-05-03 10:11:42 im doing this sudo apk add mesa-demos mesa-dri-gallium xorg-server i3wm udev xterm ; sudo rc-update add udev ; sudo rc-update add udev-postmount ; sudo rc-update add udev-trigger ; sudo rc-update add udev-settle ; sudo adduser root input ; sudo adduser alpine input 2024-05-03 10:12:00 then rebooting 2024-05-03 10:12:03 then sudo X -configure ; sudo mv ~/xorg.conf.new /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/alpine.conf -v ; sudo startx /usr/bin/xterm 2024-05-03 10:12:19 but i still cannot type anything into xterm 2024-05-03 10:12:31 and i cant move the mouse in i3 either 2024-05-03 10:13:11 i also get 2024-05-03 10:13:12 pci id for fd 10: 1234:1111, driver (null) MESA-LOADER: failed to open bochs-drm: Error loading shared library /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/bochs-drm_dri.so: No such file or directory (search paths /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri, suffix _dri) 2024-05-03 10:14:47 if i do sudo Xorg -retro then i still cannot move the mouse 2024-05-03 10:16:54 what do you have for xf86-input* packages 2024-05-03 10:17:10 what fonts do you have 2024-05-03 10:17:33 https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/I3wm androidui_, did you follow this originally 2024-05-03 10:19:11 i have no xf86 packages 2024-05-03 10:23:50 im gonna install these and see if they help 2024-05-03 10:23:53 xf86-video-fbdev xf86-video-intel xf86-video-nouveau xf86-video-vesa xf86-video-amdgpu xf86-video-nv xf86-video-vmware xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-libinput xf86-input-mtrack xf86-input-synaptics xf86-input-vmmouse xf86-input-wacom 2024-05-03 10:26:04 you don't need all of them 2024-05-03 10:26:46 for input only xf86-input-libinput is probably necessary 2024-05-03 10:26:57 maybe xf86-input-synaptics if you have a touchpad 2024-05-03 10:27:18 although, I think the latter is deprecated anyway 2024-05-03 10:28:23 i still get no input 2024-05-03 10:29:29 What kind of device are you using? 2024-05-03 10:36:46 qemu 2024-05-03 10:43:30 lmfao 2024-05-03 10:46:19 ok so adding -usb -device usb-kbd -device usb-tablet works 2024-05-03 10:46:40 even though i could type in the tty without them 2024-05-03 10:47:07 tty doesn't use xorg though 2024-05-03 10:47:29 had a feeling that there was something about the setup that would be the problem. 2024-05-03 10:47:33 tty apparently does need a usb keyboard either 2024-05-03 10:47:39 yet xorg does 2024-05-03 10:47:53 that's likely because qemu is using some other mildly insane form of communication 2024-05-03 10:48:01 haha 2024-05-03 10:48:39 androidui_: how are you using qemu? manualy? 2024-05-03 10:48:41 manually** 2024-05-03 10:49:00 perhaps invoking it through virt-manager or some other tool will give you a more reasonable ready-to-work system 2024-05-03 10:49:07 of course, if you're trying to minimize things to learn more, that won't help 2024-05-03 11:01:52 how do i install the x11 fonts 2024-05-03 11:02:11 as i3 shows corrupted text 2024-05-03 11:12:39 As mentioned previously: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/I3wm 2024-05-03 11:12:52 it suggests "apk add font-terminus" 2024-05-03 12:23:16 hmm it appears that i do not infact have gpu acceleration in qemu 2024-05-03 12:23:45 running gears in fluxbox runs slower with larger window sizes 2024-05-03 20:15:44 why is there no ssh client by default in alpine? 2024-05-03 20:27:14 by default alpine only has busybox 2024-05-03 20:27:46 i see. thanks. i was not completely aware of that. 2024-05-03 20:35:03 the package openssh installs a client as well as a server. i want just a client and scp. how can i get that? it is confusing, as scp seems to be included in package of linux-utils or so... 2024-05-03 20:36:26 *as one scp seems to be included in the package of linux-utils* 2024-05-03 20:37:31 patanga: you can install openssh-client to just get the client 2024-05-03 20:39:14 ah, thanks. 2024-05-03 21:34:01 hello, if I set up a tftp server will a files placed in /var/tftpboot be shared automatically? 2024-05-03 21:39:45 and where is the config file? 2024-05-03 21:52:41 It depends on the TFTP daemon 2024-05-03 21:53:00 If you're using in.tftpd, the init configuration is in /etc/conf.d/ 2024-05-03 21:58:37 quinq: thanks! 2024-05-03 21:59:43 De nada :) 2024-05-04 02:56:14 OK: 666 MiB in 232 packages 2024-05-04 02:56:16 o.o 2024-05-04 10:19:27 Hi, I'm using Raspberry PI Alpine on Zero 2W (aarch64) and I'm trying to find a "libcamera-vid" utility for my camera (or an equivalent), does such a package exist in the apk repos? 2024-05-04 10:29:32 don't know if https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/packages?name=libcamera&branch=v3.19 is any use 2024-05-04 10:29:41 karabaja4: there are several libcamera related (sub)packages, but not sure what -vid provides 2024-05-04 10:30:34 I've installed all the *libcamera* packages, but still no libcamera-vid... the util is here: https://github.com/raspberrypi/rpicam-apps 2024-05-04 10:31:12 I'm trying to cross-compile it for aarch64 now :S 2024-05-04 10:32:19 "These applications and libraries have been renamed from libcamera-* to rpicam-*" 2024-05-04 10:32:35 But we do not ship this from what I can tell 2024-05-04 16:33:45 to answer my own question: found this MR from user "krystianch" which allowed me to build the package I needed (rpicam-apps) with attached APKBUILDs: https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/aports/-/merge_requests/59410 2024-05-04 16:43:31 karabaja4: It fails to build with python3.12 because it uses the deprecated and now removed imp module 2024-05-04 16:46:05 modprobe nf_tables 2024-05-04 16:46:10 module not found 2024-05-04 16:46:27 uname -r; ls /lib/modules 2024-05-04 16:47:39 /lib/modules ... 6.6.29-0-virt grub-2.06-20-linode.img 2024-05-04 16:47:50 uname -r 6.6.16-0-virt 2024-05-04 16:47:59 You need to reboot 2024-05-04 16:50:16 And to backup manually your kernel modules before upgrading it 2024-05-05 00:47:00 If I want to update aports, I just do git pull, right? 2024-05-05 00:47:31 I did git pull, but I think I am still seeing an old version of a package and I don't know why. 2024-05-05 01:15:38 wait, I see why. It's because I checked out 3.17 and I have apk on latest-stable, which I guess is 3.19 2024-05-05 04:12:34 Correct 2024-05-05 17:10:06 why is it necessary that at least one X application is installed so that X can be started after setup-xorg-base? 2024-05-05 17:12:28 xorg needs something to keep running. if that thing exits, xorg exits 2024-05-05 17:12:47 if there is nothing to run it just exits 2024-05-05 17:14:00 knolle: hm. if i open it without some programs in .xinitrc then it also starts empty 2024-05-05 17:14:31 knolle: hm. if i open it without some programs in .xinitrc then it also starts empty 2024-05-05 17:15:25 but it starts 2024-05-05 17:15:59 is it empty or does it not exist? 2024-05-05 17:16:00 i mean, how does xorg know what packages are installed on the machine? it does not know that, i suppose 2024-05-05 17:16:57 i did not check that when startx did not start. i just googled and found that anything like xterm must be installed at first 2024-05-05 17:17:46 btw, seems that there is no thing like autoremove in apk... removing orphaned packages like in debian 2024-05-05 17:18:01 there shouldn't be any 2024-05-05 17:18:46 dependencies just get removed when you remove the package that needed them 2024-05-05 17:19:08 what happens when i interrupt with ctrl-c the adding of a package? is the beginning of the package saved? 2024-05-05 17:19:34 knolle: well, i understand you, still orphaned packages can happen to exist 2024-05-05 17:19:49 how? 2024-05-05 17:21:41 in debian "apt autoremove" removes orphaned packages. might be that a journaller keeps track of manual installations, and packages which are not required by those packages manually installed are removed 2024-05-05 17:22:15 knolle: in a clean theory orphaned packages should never exist 2024-05-05 17:22:36 apt autoremove does nothing apk doesn't already do when removing a package 2024-05-05 17:23:12 apk fix 2024-05-05 17:23:23 quinq: thanks 2024-05-05 17:26:26 well, sir Nathanael has really done some work with the apk thing. there is a KISSLinux which is based on a package manager of 200 lines of Shell script, intentionally simple and stupid. it is a whole science, and if i may rant, recently i have found out, that the first dinosaur package management systems were by IBM's AIX in the 80ies. 2024-05-05 17:32:16 knolle: in short, you want to say that "apt purge" does not remove dependencies while "apk del" does? 2024-05-05 17:32:37 yes 2024-05-05 17:32:41 i see 2024-05-05 17:34:58 as for the X question, soon i will try to setup-xorg-base with an empty .xinitrc and see what happens. certainly the X Windows System cannot prophetically know if one or more X applications are installed or not 2024-05-05 17:35:30 AFAIK 2024-05-05 17:35:46 As far as i can see 2024-05-05 17:36:13 it's not about knowing. it's about having to run something as a main process 2024-05-05 17:36:51 what main process? after installing xterm i can startx and it runs, without xterm as main or second process 2024-05-05 17:38:12 the main process of X is the GUI, not an application like a terminal or browser 2024-05-05 17:38:21 what gui? 2024-05-05 17:41:58 i must really try it out step for step. maybe i had a WM like openbox already installed on top of X and i am referring to its dropdown menu. X is not a GUI in itself but it provides everything for one 2024-05-05 17:42:19 oh, so you do have something else installed then 2024-05-05 17:43:00 because if you don't... x by itself doesn't do anything except display a blank screen, try to start something (like openbox) and then exit if the thing dies 2024-05-05 17:43:33 as to why you can't startx with openbox installed but no application... no clue 2024-05-05 17:43:43 yes. even the blank screen is a GUI for me. an empty one but still. 2024-05-05 17:44:22 yes, i did not have openbox. only setup-xorg-base. it failed. with some xterm it worked. sorry, i dont understand it 2024-05-05 17:44:49 does it work without xterm with just xorg and openbox? 2024-05-05 17:44:59 did not try that yet. 2024-05-05 17:47:00 knolle: "it's not about knowing. it's about having to run something as a main process" but xterm is not running, even less as a main process. still X starts. 2024-05-05 17:47:11 openbox is you main process 2024-05-05 17:47:37 now i was talking about X and one application, without WM 2024-05-05 17:48:00 i don't get it 2024-05-05 17:50:01 knolle: it is possible to have a Firefox in X without a WM 2024-05-05 17:51:47 then that firefox occupies the whole tty, to say so 2024-05-05 17:52:09 i know but i fail to see how that is relevant 2024-05-05 17:52:55 soon i will do a setup and try all possibilities and come back here 2024-05-05 17:53:17 knolle: thanks for the talk, in the meantime 2024-05-06 11:29:54 https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/tree/community/garcon/APKBUILD 2024-05-06 11:30:04 license should be LGPL-2.0-or-later 2024-05-06 11:30:33 i'm not sure why the badge in the readme shows GPL but in COPYING it's LGPL-2.0 2024-05-06 11:31:57 also https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/tree/community/garcon/APKBUILD#n21? 2024-05-06 11:33:08 i'm guessing they both provided /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu at some point 2024-05-06 11:35:37 ah okay i get it 2024-05-06 11:36:29 how can garcon be LGPL when it's linked against libxfce4util which is GPL? 2024-05-06 11:37:03 libxfce4util isn't gpl either 2024-05-06 11:37:23 https://gitlab.xfce.org/xfce/libxfce4util/-/blob/master/COPYING?ref_type=heads 2024-05-06 11:40:31 then it should also be changed here: https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/tree/community/libxfce4util/APKBUILD#n8 2024-05-06 11:40:54 yeah 2024-05-06 11:45:38 triallax: I poked a friend that does XFCE work about fixing the upstream READMEs to be accurate 2024-05-06 11:45:48 ah, thanks 2024-05-06 11:45:54 not that i'm already not nagging them to fix them :P 2024-05-06 11:46:09 the more nagging the better :D 2024-05-06 13:01:06 hey, which would be the most lightweight desktop from the setup-desktop command? 2024-05-06 13:04:03 depends on your WM preference; if you want a stacking, then xfce4 is quite good choice (I use this on every kind of machines, including allwinner H3 based ones) 2024-05-06 13:04:27 it's "fancy enough" 2024-05-06 13:04:40 there are more minimal WMs, tho 2024-05-06 13:04:53 but I have no experience with them 2024-05-06 13:04:54 its in a proxmox VM for just a browser to configure stuff 2024-05-06 13:05:02 so doesnt really need to be fancy looking 2024-05-06 13:05:16 then keep your tty :) 2024-05-06 13:06:13 I cant figrue out how to configure it from a different PC in browsr xD 2024-05-06 13:06:16 the question still there: stacking or tiling? 2024-05-06 13:06:27 I dont have a preference 2024-05-06 13:08:22 then try openbox, it seems quite minimalistic 2024-05-06 13:09:17 here's the list to choose from: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Desktop_environments_and_Window_managers 2024-05-06 13:18:21 well installed mate and its reset my input to US keyboard not UK 2024-05-06 13:18:29 and now cant find the options to configure that 2024-05-06 13:23:49 I can't help you with mate 2024-05-06 13:24:24 but mate is far from minimalistic :) 2024-05-06 13:24:50 and definitely not lightweight 2024-05-06 13:25:13 it didnt use much ram when I installed it before I opened firefox 2024-05-06 13:27:24 if you like it, that is what matters 2024-05-06 22:49:21 anyone have a preferred method for preloading a setup-alpine answers file + some custom packages (& import signing key) onto a USB? 2024-05-07 00:40:33 does anyone know how to get pipewire to run in a container? access to /dev/snd does not appear to be sufficient, it fails to recognize output hardware. same config and machine as the host that performs fine. 2024-05-07 00:57:01 yo dawg 2024-05-07 01:01:37 No Dawgs Allowed! 2024-05-07 10:19:36 echo "password" | keepassxc-cli show -sa password notes/foresee.kdbx VPN 2024-05-07 10:20:22 not the best of passwords 2024-05-07 10:20:39 hello 2024-05-07 10:23:32 I think i meesed something, glad no password was actually pasted 2024-05-07 10:23:42 Hi there 2024-05-07 10:27:50 hi 2024-05-07 14:04:34 installing an desktop system from the standard iso does not result in a usable system 2024-05-07 14:04:45 xorg starts up but the user is not in the input group, so no keyboard 2024-05-07 14:06:06 setup-alpine only adds the user to video, audio and netdev groups 2024-05-07 14:27:38 automatically adding users to the 'input' group means that user has raw access to input devices 2024-05-07 14:27:46 read: insecure 2024-05-07 14:28:01 regardless of whatever insecurity xorg has 2024-05-07 14:28:20 easy enough to resolve if you still want that. 2024-05-07 14:40:53 invoked: asking systemd-logind for the file descriptor is not an option on alpine 2024-05-07 14:45:03 i installed from the virt image a short while ago and didn't encounter this 2024-05-07 14:48:47 lopid: using xf86-input-libinput ? 2024-05-07 14:48:56 (default in setup-xorg-base) 2024-05-07 14:48:58 whatever gets installed 2024-05-07 17:14:15 nero: you want a seat manager, not the input group: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Seat_manager 2024-05-07 17:14:28 you also don't want the user in the video group; that gives raw video access to all process. 2024-05-07 17:15:09 WhyNotHugo: https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/alpine-conf/-/blob/master/setup-alpine.in?ref_type=heads#L136 2024-05-07 17:15:39 not *I* 2024-05-07 17:16:34 Why is this page https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Configure_Networking recommending drill at the end of the page as a "superior" tool when it doesn't even allow you to just get the answer section... I don't understand the recommendation, drill is written in rust so thats good but it has less features so thats bad...? 2024-05-07 17:17:25 nero: https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/aports/-/issues/15409 2024-05-07 17:18:10 MaddieKalan: because anyone can edit the wiki. 2024-05-07 17:18:29 zcrayfish: So its just some randos opinion? 2024-05-07 17:19:10 Wheres the edit button... is Tor blocked? 2024-05-07 17:19:44 Yes; and login first. https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin 2024-05-07 17:20:04 So I gotta make a login... Not worth it. Thanks though, apreciate it. 2024-05-07 17:20:53 😆 2024-05-07 17:22:21 “drill is written in rust” since when? 2024-05-07 17:26:40 The -Q option should do what you need 2024-05-07 17:27:27 would an mr-based wiki improve quality, or simply make contributors disappear? 2024-05-07 17:40:40 i think it's probably more of an issue of porting the existing wiki content over (to eg, gitlab) would be work nobody wants to do 2024-05-07 17:41:54 also that kind of defeats the point of a wiki system... 2024-05-07 17:47:45 imo any wiki should have a clear "caveat emptor" type page header to make it clear that it's not super-reviewed & blessed documentation 2024-05-07 17:51:51 "Our wiki is volunteer reviewed; the reviewers are not subject matter experts for every article" ;p 2024-05-07 18:02:31 zcrayfish: that's reasonable, but as a suggestion, you could append something like "these instructions could burn your house down" to make it more explicit :) 2024-05-07 18:04:02 or maybe: "no refunds" 2024-05-07 18:44:40 “You're reading the Internet, you know what to expect” 2024-05-07 20:44:31 hibernation fails and dmesg shows 'xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: PM: failed to freeze async: error -16'. any ideas what this could mean? 2024-05-07 20:45:01 buggy usb device? 2024-05-07 20:45:03 or controller 2024-05-07 20:45:22 no devices connected. so maybe controller? 2024-05-07 20:45:44 i say no devices connected and lsusb says i have 7. but it's all internal laptop stuff 2024-05-07 21:02:23 hello, can i install alpin likr gentoo way? 2024-05-07 21:02:50 *hello, can i install alpine like gentoo way? 2024-05-07 21:04:33 what do you mean by "gentoo way" 2024-05-07 21:09:26 tarball, chroot 2024-05-07 21:15:24 yep 2024-05-07 21:22:23 how? 2024-05-07 21:25:33 very different packaging. if you want to do things the gentoo way, probably better to use gentoo (imo) 2024-05-07 21:25:46 and yes you can run musl on gentoo 2024-05-07 21:27:20 mlfaw: get the "mini root filesystem" from the downloads page, then use tar and chroot like you normally would 2024-05-07 21:27:56 you'll need to bootstrap it a bit depending on your environment of course, that won't get you a bootloader etc 2024-05-07 21:28:25 but as a gentoo user you are surely willing to accept "exercises left for the reader" 2024-05-07 21:31:41 isnt this https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux_in_a_chroot 2024-05-07 21:31:51 and this is not mini rootfs 2024-05-07 21:33:08 ? 2024-05-07 22:41:24 not sure what you mean, sorry 2024-05-07 22:43:51 mlfaw: if you want to install alpine by mounting some storage, seeding it with some initial content, then using chroot to complete the installation process, I would recommend starting with the setup-* scripts here: https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/alpine-conf 2024-05-07 22:44:08 you can use them as a reference for what alpine considers to be a standard installation 2024-05-07 22:44:34 it's all very readable shell script (I would recommend it just as inspiration for writing better shell scripts) 2024-05-07 22:46:44 fortunately, alpine's tools don't require you to use chroot; you can always use a command-line option to accomplish that 2024-05-07 22:46:49 but it won't prevent you, either 2024-05-08 11:19:53 Ugh I can't get the initramfs (with mkinitfs) to unlock my root partition on boot. It doesn't even prompt for a password. /etc/mkinitfs/mkinitfs.conf has cryptsetup added to it and I created /etc/crypttab (not sure if required). Grub boots with cryptroot and cryptdm added to the command line parameters 2024-05-08 11:39:03 Wow, big derp. I just had cryptroot pointed to the wrong UUID 😒 And /etc/crypttab is indeed not needed, seems to be a systemd feature instead 2024-05-08 11:39:51 cryptab is used for other volumes / partitions, not the root partition 2024-05-08 11:40:12 I thought /etc/conf.d/dmcrypt was for that 2024-05-08 11:43:39 According to the wiki, you are right 2024-05-08 12:29:32 hello 2024-05-08 12:48:59 hello, https://0x0.st/X8BX.txt ERROR: linux-edge-6.8.9-r0: IO ERROR 2024-05-08 12:49:22 i don't have this issue last year :) what changed? 2024-05-08 12:52:07 while "apk add curl" no problem 2024-05-08 12:53:23 sometimes: ERROR: Failed to create lib/modules/6.8.9-0-edge/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu.ko.gz: I/O error 2024-05-08 12:56:22 Hi,... (full message at ) 2024-05-08 12:56:34 uuidNuniq: Sounds like a failing disk? 2024-05-08 12:57:02 i am in a minirootfs, i'll try on a real drive 2024-05-08 13:01:15 ikke: same thing on real usb 2024-05-08 13:01:49 So failing usb drive 2024-05-08 13:14:21 drive is ok 2024-05-08 13:16:33 debian sid issue? 2024-05-08 13:16:51 im on debian sid trying to make a alpine rootfs 2024-05-08 13:19:13 https://0x0.st/X8Bm.txt 2024-05-08 13:19:22 tried on another box... same issue 2024-05-08 13:25:05 well well, i don't know what went wrong 2024-05-08 13:26:54 all other pkgs installs ok, only this linux-edge or linux-lts 2024-05-08 13:33:28 i know why 2024-05-08 13:33:46 ikke: there is an variable `rootfs` in `env` 2024-05-08 13:46:23 it's not that... it worked on my VPS 2024-05-08 14:10:43 ikke: it is the permission, the mkdir by default create 700 dir in /mnt 2024-05-08 14:29:10 hmz 2024-05-08 14:32:08 it is not the permission issue, 2024-05-08 14:32:12 what the heck 2024-05-08 14:36:39 i'm glad to be back :) 2024-05-08 14:44:33 i tried switching to proxmox, which kind of sucks because of my realtek lan card (known issue) so i switched back to Alpine :) But i wanted proxmox so i can run virtual machine's through a web gui.. Does anyone know any good resources on running alpine as a hypervisor? i know it has KVM and QEMU.. but thats about as much as i know :) 2024-05-08 14:45:11 There's also xen 2024-05-08 14:45:17 i suppose after that i have to incorporate SPICE somehow, so i can at least connect to the VM's without a web gui 2024-05-08 14:45:27 yeah.. xen sucks.. :| 2024-05-08 14:45:39 For kvm there's libvirt that is popular, but no experience with it 2024-05-08 14:46:02 ive been using proxmox since version 3 or so :) 2024-05-08 14:46:22 yeah thats what i found, but there's not much documentation about it when it comes to alpine 2024-05-08 14:48:50 i suppose i'll have to try and see how far i get 2024-05-08 14:48:50 the alpine wiki has a document about kvm, not sure how up to date it is 2024-05-08 14:52:11 Me neither 2024-05-08 14:52:48 Note that most details should not be that alpine specific 2024-05-08 14:53:00 fair enough :) 2024-05-08 14:59:52 ikke: apk fetch and then apk add ./linux-edge-6.8.9-r0.apk ./linux-firmware-none-20240312-r0.apk works file 2024-05-08 14:59:53 i dropped my alpine based laptop os for Kubuntu, since we use ubuntu in the office.. and i really regret that :( next week im going back to alpine on the desktop as well :) 2024-05-08 14:59:56 *fine 2024-05-08 15:07:13 aside from openrc and whatever, kvm works the same as far as i can tell. 2024-05-08 15:08:01 thanks :) im following the wiki atm 2024-05-08 15:40:12 this is strange, `apk fetch then apk add ./linux-edge*.apk` works , but apk add linux-edge does not work 2024-05-08 16:03:52 ikke: i changed the repo to something else, no problem at all, i think it is the issue of the CDN mirror 2024-05-08 16:04:41 this : dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org 2024-05-08 16:09:49 using this mirror : uk.alpinelinux.org and then apk fix -U linux-edge, 100% work. 2024-05-08 16:10:08 this mirror dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org 100% fail 2024-05-08 16:12:32 in France, https://paste.swordarmor.fr/raw/UKSt 2024-05-08 16:22:17 well, the kvm article in the wiki is either outdated or incorrect :) so there's that 2024-05-08 16:22:18 back to google 2024-05-08 16:22:50 ubuntu force me to install the big bloat linux-firmware 2024-05-08 16:23:39 i don't need a single file from that HUGE package 2024-05-08 16:32:34 that's what she said... 2024-05-08 16:34:28 al_: who said what? 2024-05-08 16:35:23 nothing. have you tried removing linux-firmware with both apt and snap? 2024-05-08 16:35:56 Hi all good to be back, is there a way to do a minimal install of qemu for command line usage? 2024-05-08 16:36:01 no, i purged the whole fs. 2024-05-08 16:36:07 if you don't need proprietary firmware then Trisquel might be better suited for your computer. 2024-05-08 16:37:01 mkfs.ext4 -FF /dev/sda 2024-05-08 16:37:47 bowenp: apk install qemu qemu-img qemu-system-x86_64 qemu-ui-gtk 2024-05-08 16:38:24 they don't want a ui 2024-05-08 16:38:59 Generally, qemu-system- is the most minimum you will get 2024-05-08 16:39:00 well then, take out the last package. the qemu ui is pretty minimal so i wouldn't recommend against installing it 2024-05-08 16:39:22 And the qemu-system-* packages depend on qemu anyway 2024-05-08 16:39:42 qemu_opt=( ... ... ... ) ; qemu-system-x86_64 "$@" "${qemu_opt[@]}" 2024-05-08 16:42:47 the benifit of using bash array is that you can have comments in it, and you can try different options without running a long command line -- for qemu 2024-05-08 16:43:41 ok so I don't need libvirt-daemon? 2024-05-08 16:43:50 no 2024-05-08 16:45:12 the server will be running docker apps (cli) any requirements? 2024-05-08 16:45:31 No 2024-05-08 16:45:44 woohoo. 2024-05-08 16:45:51 docker would be one 2024-05-08 16:45:51 fyi, there is a qemu-openrc package to run qemu vms as services 2024-05-08 16:45:56 i hope apk has an option --download-first 2024-05-08 16:46:47 i found it sucks when IO ERROR and it is actually a network error or file corruption 2024-05-08 16:47:20 you can apk fetch and then apk add ./package 2024-05-08 16:47:50 yes, that works as i mentioned above 2024-05-08 16:47:56 lastly I'm booting using syslinux, how to I remove all of grub? 2024-05-08 16:48:07 apk del grub* 2024-05-08 16:49:43 apt has an option : --download-only 2024-05-08 16:50:04 so we can apt-get --download-only upgrade ; apt-get upgrade 2024-05-08 16:50:22 i'm sorry, this is the alpine channel 2024-05-08 16:51:50 i'd be happy to help but i don't have much debian experience, unless someone else volunteers another, preferrably debian-focused channel, would be a more optimal place to ask 2024-05-08 16:53:17 i mean it is safer. opensuse's zypper has an option --download-in-advance 2024-05-08 16:53:23 so this is a suggestion :) 2024-05-08 16:53:40 fetch is ok, but then you have to type apk add ./*.apk 2024-05-08 16:54:56 apk fetch package && apk add ./package 2024-05-08 16:55:20