2017-10-30 10:31:23 <xle6> hello
2017-10-30 10:31:47 <xle6> help me please
2017-10-30 10:32:45 <cypa[m]> ?
2017-10-30 10:32:53 <ncopa> hi
2017-10-30 10:32:54 <cypa[m]> хлеб?
2017-10-30 10:32:55 <_ikke_> xle6: Welcome here. It often helps to ask an actual question instead of asking for help
2017-10-30 10:33:01 <xle6> how to install ssl certificates? And how to add it to trusted?
2017-10-30 10:33:24 <_ikke_> xle6: concatenate those certificates to /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.pem
2017-10-30 10:33:30 <_ikke_> (make sure they're PEM format)
2017-10-30 10:34:03 <ncopa> i think you can copy the certs to /etc/ssl/certs
2017-10-30 10:34:13 <ncopa> and then run update-certs-something
2017-10-30 10:34:25 <ncopa> update-ca-certificates
2017-10-30 10:35:16 <ncopa> update-ca-certificates will do concatenating for you
2017-10-30 10:35:29 <ncopa> and also update the java cert db if needed
2017-10-30 10:36:37 <_ikke_> ncopa: ah, nice to know
2017-10-30 10:38:38 <pl> Hello. Is it possible to enable the serial console at boot time on the installation media?
2017-10-30 10:38:54 <ncopa> yes
2017-10-30 10:39:25 <pl> ncopa, can't find it in the documentation. Any pointer?
2017-10-30 10:39:29 <ncopa> if you use an usb, then you can edit boot/syslinux/syslinux.cfg
2017-10-30 10:39:47 <ncopa> and to the boot option add console=ttyS0
2017-10-30 10:39:48 <pl> oh, easy indeed
2017-10-30 10:39:53 <pl> thanks
2017-10-30 13:50:49 <Xe> xle6: https://github.com/Xe/dockerfiles/blob/master/base/alpine/bin/xeservca is the script i use
2017-10-30 13:59:57 <shamen> anyone able to help with a problem with an alpine domU  backend domain? Whenever a new PV is started with backend=domnet, I see "Guest Rx Ready" in the domnet dmesg, but the link never comes up
2017-10-30 14:33:59 <pl> How do Alpine maintain the grsecurity kernel now that the source code of the patch is not public anymore?
2017-10-30 16:52:45 <sir_dalton> Hello everyone!
2017-10-30 16:52:56 <sir_dalton> I'm planning to install Alpine Linux on a device for the first time some day when I have time, and since my linux skills are modest I expect to have a few questions for you before everything works the way I want.
2017-10-30 16:53:12 <sir_dalton> First question: What is the purpose of modloop? I've been reading on https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/DIY_Fully_working_Alpine_Linux_for_Allwinner_and_Other_ARM_SOCs and it explains well enough about the initramfs, but with the modloop file it only explains how and not why.
2017-10-30 16:55:55 <sir_dalton> Why can't the modules just be in /lib/modules?
2017-10-30 17:20:49 <kaniini> it’s for memory savings
2017-10-30 17:21:09 <kaniini> and also to make upgrading the system in ram safe
2017-10-30 17:21:24 <kaniini> so you don’t wind up losing your modules of the running kernel
2017-10-30 17:22:35 <david___> hello?
2017-10-30 17:22:57 <nsz> hi
2017-10-30 17:23:16 <david___> i need help
2017-10-30 17:23:32 <david___> trying to install alpine on a server
2017-10-30 17:23:43 <david___> but it does not boot
2017-10-30 17:24:05 <sir_dalton> ok. thanks kaniini
2017-10-30 17:24:13 <nsz> there can be millions of reasons why boot may fail
2017-10-30 17:24:33 <david___> i have tons of details
2017-10-30 17:24:56 <david___> my config?
2017-10-30 17:25:02 <ncopa> not millions of reasons, its more like 998000 something...
2017-10-30 17:25:20 <ncopa> david___: do you have an exact error message?
2017-10-30 17:26:07 <david___> mount: Mounting /dev/md2 on /sysroot failed: No such file or diretory
2017-10-30 17:26:35 <david___> it seems alpine kernel can not handle mdadm raid
2017-10-30 17:27:13 <ncopa> so you get an emergency shell
2017-10-30 17:27:24 <david___> yep
2017-10-30 17:27:30 <ncopa> can you verify that kernel module is loaded for lvm
2017-10-30 17:27:39 <ncopa> does /dev/md2 exist?
2017-10-30 17:27:46 <david___> its plain raid1 without lvm
2017-10-30 17:27:57 <ncopa> i mean raid kernel  module
2017-10-30 17:28:09 <david___> tell me how
2017-10-30 17:28:15 <ncopa> what do yo uahve in /proc/mdstat
2017-10-30 17:28:43 <david___> nothing
2017-10-30 17:28:54 <ncopa> ls -l /dev/md2
2017-10-30 17:29:01 <ncopa> does it give anything?
2017-10-30 17:29:01 <david___> nothing :-(
2017-10-30 17:29:14 <ncopa> lsmod | grep raid
2017-10-30 17:29:40 <david___> nothing
2017-10-30 17:29:43 <ncopa> ok
2017-10-30 17:29:49 <ncopa> the kernel module is missing then
2017-10-30 17:29:56 <david___> ahh
2017-10-30 17:29:57 <ncopa> i assume its raid1?
2017-10-30 17:30:09 <david___> i have an idea :-D
2017-10-30 17:30:14 <ncopa> modprobe raid1
2017-10-30 17:30:26 <david___> i missed raid module while bootstrapping
2017-10-30 17:30:52 <ncopa> normally you add it to /etc/mkinitfs/mkinitfs.conf
2017-10-30 17:30:55 <TBB> and possibly adding raid to FEATURES in /etc/mkinitfs/mkinitfs.conf
2017-10-30 17:31:04 <david___> let me try
2017-10-30 17:31:18 <david___> i come back in a few minutes
2017-10-30 17:35:46 <david___> do i need to add mdadm on sysinit?
2017-10-30 17:36:05 <david___> rc-update -q add mdadm sysinit ?
2017-10-30 17:36:30 <ncopa> it should be started from initramfs
2017-10-30 17:36:56 <ncopa> since its the root
2017-10-30 17:37:01 <david___> ok
2017-10-30 17:43:36 <david___> are there any known issues with raid and grsec ?
2017-10-30 17:44:55 <david___> hm.. still not booting /
2017-10-30 17:47:05 <david___> please have a look at this: https://gist.github.com/thde/5312a42665c5c901aef4
2017-10-30 17:47:19 <david___> this is the original script
2017-10-30 17:48:19 <david___> i tried to implement raid with mdadm . and played a lot with gpt/mbr with no success
2017-10-30 18:01:31 <david___> still helping me ?
2017-10-30 18:02:11 <david___> okay i've added raid in feature-list for mkinitfs
2017-10-30 18:03:06 <david___> modprobe raid1 works but /dev/md2 is still missing .. instead /dev/md125 ... 126 ..127 exists
2017-10-30 18:03:47 <ncopa> i think you need the mdadm.conf in your initramfs too
2017-10-30 18:04:15 <david___> yes good aspect, but maybee i have to turn off kvm
2017-10-30 18:08:50 <TBB> mdadm.conf goes in via raid.files in features.d ... so did you regenerate your initramfs after adding that feature?
2017-10-30 18:09:41 <TBB> I don't remember exactly how mdadm works but maybe those numbers are dynamic if it's not specified in the config?
2017-10-30 18:12:55 <david___> oh yeah :-D
2017-10-30 18:13:45 <david___> thats it... my mdadm.conf was under /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf but needs to be in /etc/mdadm.conf ... so now the labeling fits and the volume could be found
2017-10-30 18:14:29 <david___> thanx @ncopa and @TBB
2017-10-30 19:49:02 <misz1> I have a question about the packages available in alpine linux.
2017-10-30 19:49:19 <_ikke_> misz1: just ask
2017-10-30 19:49:25 <misz1> Why are some packages on the "edge" branch, terribly outdated?
2017-10-30 19:49:59 <_ikke_> misz1: probably because the maintainer didn't notice
2017-10-30 19:50:04 <_ikke_> misz1: Any examples?
2017-10-30 19:50:29 <_ikke_> or perhaps because newer versions have issues
2017-10-30 19:50:31 <misz1> lightdm is version 1.10
2017-10-30 19:50:44 <misz1> Newest is 1.24. Version 1.10 is from 2014
2017-10-30 19:50:57 <_ikke_> I gather you flagged them?
2017-10-30 19:51:04 <misz1> Yes
2017-10-30 19:51:21 <misz1> The maintainer of lightdm seems to have allot more packages that are also flagged.
2017-10-30 19:51:58 <misz1> The earlies from 2016-09
2017-10-30 19:52:15 <Elizabeth> I mean, he's in here, so you could probably ask him why
2017-10-30 19:52:44 <_ikke_> ncopa created Alpine
2017-10-30 19:53:10 <misz1> Would @ncopa like to comment?
2017-10-30 19:53:39 <misz1> @_ikke_ Oh, I did not know that
2017-10-30 19:53:47 <misz1> You learn things every day :)
2017-10-30 19:54:17 <_ikke_> He has a lot of packages on his name :-)
2017-10-30 19:54:35 <Elizabeth> it might just be a circumstance of too busy, needs someone to volunteer to maintain it
2017-10-30 19:55:45 <misz1> I understand. There should be an easier way of maintaining Alpine packages, with musl and all
2017-10-30 19:56:44 <_ikke_> misz1: What do you propose/
2017-10-30 19:56:45 <_ikke_> ?
2017-10-30 19:57:23 <misz1> Well, for, lightdm specifically. There were some patches that are required in order to run on alpine because of musl.
2017-10-30 19:57:33 <Xe> misz1: tbh, can always just submit patches when you see things that are both obviously out of date and easy to test
2017-10-30 19:57:38 <_ikke_> Well sure, there are more packages that have the same
2017-10-30 19:57:58 <_ikke_> The ideal situation is to get the patches upstream
2017-10-30 19:58:05 <misz1> The whole reason that Arch is so effective in maintaining updated packages is that they do not apply patches, unless truly necessary.
2017-10-30 19:58:38 <misz1> This results in just having to update version numbers.
2017-10-30 19:58:47 <misz1> And most of the time, that is enough
2017-10-30 19:58:50 <Elizabeth> misz1: so.... uh, this isn't alpine's fault/problem
2017-10-30 19:59:16 <Elizabeth> the patches exist, they just need to get upstreamed if anything,
2017-10-30 19:59:33 <misz1> Not, necessarly. Although, the decision to use musl, which I completly agreee with, puts Alpine at a disadvantage.
2017-10-30 20:00:05 <_ikke_> misz1: On the other hand it's an advantage
2017-10-30 20:00:18 <misz1> @_ikke_ Indeed
2017-10-30 20:00:33 <_ikke_> And they're willing to take the burden
2017-10-30 20:00:46 <Elizabeth> misz1: so, I disagree, the way I see it is "if someone really wants to use the package, they can volunteer their time to the project to help keep it up to date, or to help upstream the needed patches"
2017-10-30 20:01:01 <misz1> But maybe not "Unmaintained packages availible in repository" good
2017-10-30 20:01:20 <Elizabeth> meh, alpine isn't the only distro with that problem
2017-10-30 20:01:35 <misz1> @Elizabeth I know!
2017-10-30 20:01:42 <_ikke_> What Alpine could use is people who help maintain packages
2017-10-30 20:01:48 <_ikke_> the more people help, the easier it'll become
2017-10-30 20:02:13 <misz1> How do I volunteer?
2017-10-30 20:02:20 <misz1> (Probably on wiki)....
2017-10-30 20:02:44 <_ikke_> misz1: Easiest is by probiding pull requests on github
2017-10-30 20:02:58 <kaniini> if you want to volunteer, easiest way is to send pull requests to github
2017-10-30 20:03:03 <_ikke_> :-)
2017-10-30 20:03:14 <misz1> Oh, that was easier than I thought
2017-10-30 20:04:12 <Elizabeth> misz1: https://github.com/alpinelinux/aports/tree/master/testing/lightdm
2017-10-30 20:04:22 <misz1> But, github is only a mirror of the official repo.
2017-10-30 20:04:35 <misz1> And there are alot of PR's there
2017-10-30 20:04:54 <_ikke_> Ah, it's in testing, so that means it's not even in the official repos
2017-10-30 20:06:01 <misz1> Yes, in testing. But a version from 2014? It seems to be a weird way of testing?
2017-10-30 20:07:32 <_ikke_> testing means it's waiting for feedback from end-users
2017-10-30 20:07:48 <_ikke_> and as it's not in the official repo's, there is no real pressure to keep it up-to-date
2017-10-30 20:08:22 <misz1> Hm.
2017-10-30 20:08:42 <_ikke_> misz1: So if you want to use it, your feedback is more than welcome
2017-10-30 20:09:05 <misz1> But most users, that do not have sufficient knowledge about the linux system, will not even be able to run it.
2017-10-30 20:09:46 <misz1> There is no package for any lightdm-greeter's. So it is impossible to run lightdm, as it is presented in the repo.
2017-10-30 20:10:06 <_ikke_> Running a graphical environment in Alpine probably already required more than average linux knowledge
2017-10-30 20:10:34 <misz1> Most users will get frustrated, utter some harsh words and will go on to installing slim. A DM, that has been completly unmaintained since its death.
2017-10-30 20:11:07 <_ikke_> Most people will probably run lxdm
2017-10-30 20:11:11 <misz1> And, I might add. That is a well known fact.
2017-10-30 20:11:35 <misz1> True.
2017-10-30 20:11:41 <_ikke_> And due to Adelie, kde is being ported to Alpine as well
2017-10-30 20:12:40 <Elizabeth> misz1: there's a greeter package in unmaintained
2017-10-30 20:13:42 <Elizabeth> misz1: https://github.com/alpinelinux/aports/blob/master/unmaintained/lightdm-gtk-greeter/APKBUILD
2017-10-30 20:14:19 <misz1> Oh, did not see that in the search results
2017-10-30 20:14:29 <_ikke_> Unmaintained is never built
2017-10-30 20:14:36 <_ikke_> you need to look into aports
2017-10-30 20:22:53 <realies> can't get telegram-purple to install
2017-10-30 20:23:21 <realies> fails at Package 'purple', required by 'virtual:world', not found
2017-10-30 20:23:25 <realies> but libpurple is installed
2017-10-30 20:24:29 <_ikke_> I don't see anything called telegram-purple in the repos
2017-10-30 20:24:40 <ncopa> misz1: hi
2017-10-30 20:24:50 <_ikke_> realies: where did you get it from?
2017-10-30 20:24:52 <ncopa> sorry for not beeing able to maintain all the packages...
2017-10-30 20:25:13 <ncopa> alpine has kind of exploded in popularity the last 2-3 years
2017-10-30 20:25:37 <realies> _ikke_, https://github.com/majn/telegram-purple
2017-10-30 20:25:46 <ncopa> and the process of on-boarding new devs has not followed
2017-10-30 20:26:01 <_ikke_> realies: did you build the package yourself?
2017-10-30 20:26:30 <ncopa> misz1: im am working on bumping alot of the packages this week
2017-10-30 20:26:54 <realies> yes, this is the output https://dpaste.de/hFJT/raw
2017-10-30 20:27:52 <ncopa> realies: i think you need makedepends="pc:purple"
2017-10-30 20:28:08 <ncopa> or libburple-dev
2017-10-30 20:29:15 <realies> ncopa, where does makedepends go to?
2017-10-30 20:29:28 <realies> trying with libburple-dev now
2017-10-30 20:58:28 <realies> ncopa, not finding libpurple-dev
2017-10-30 20:58:49 <realies> where is makedepends="pc:purple" supposed to be insterted?
2017-10-30 21:00:00 <realies> s/insterted/inserted
2017-10-30 21:00:31 <_ikke_> realies: that is meant for an APKBUILD file, but not sure you have one
2017-10-30 21:01:00 <realies> _ikke_, don't think so
2017-10-30 21:01:12 <_ikke_> realies: Is easier if you have one though
2017-10-30 21:01:31 <realies> why?
2017-10-30 21:01:48 <_ikke_> exactly the problem you are having
2017-10-30 21:01:55 <_ikke_> you can easier specify your dependencies
2017-10-30 21:02:17 <realies> can you not insert it inline?
2017-10-30 21:02:18 <_ikke_> Not sure why, but apparently it's actually checking for a package
2017-10-30 21:10:40 <realies> so you can't do it inline?
2017-10-30 21:11:34 <_ikke_> realies: inline where?
2017-10-30 21:12:12 <realies> as a parameter to make?
2017-10-30 21:12:17 <realies> or env
2017-10-30 21:13:39 <_ikke_> makedepends is something APKBUILD specific
2017-10-30 21:13:43 <_ikke_> make does not know it
2017-10-30 21:17:37 <realies> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/APKBUILD_examples:Simple
2017-10-30 21:17:43 <realies> is that what i need?
2017-10-30 21:18:07 <_ikke_> YEs
2017-10-30 21:18:26 <_ikke_> But I suspect you also need a package called purple
2017-10-30 21:19:26 <_ikke_> You can use newapkbuild <packagename> to create one
2017-10-30 21:19:37 <_ikke_> add -a to get the autotools setup already in there
2017-10-30 21:19:45 <scv> libpurple is the pidgin backend
2017-10-30 21:21:26 <realies> _ikke_, is that gonna make it pretend that purple is installed?
2017-10-30 21:21:49 <ncopa> realies: oh, i assumed you were working on a package
2017-10-30 21:21:59 <realies> scv, libpurple is installed
2017-10-30 21:22:03 <ncopa> apk add liburple-dev
2017-10-30 21:22:14 <realies> ncopa, no, trying to put together a docker image
2017-10-30 21:22:30 <ncopa> libpurple-dev or whatever package that as purple.pc
2017-10-30 21:22:41 <realies> ncopa, liburple-dev is not in the 3.6 repo
2017-10-30 21:22:52 <kaniini> you could also do
2017-10-30 21:22:55 <ncopa> $ apk search pc:purple
2017-10-30 21:22:55 <ncopa> pidgin-dev-2.12.0-r2
2017-10-30 21:22:57 <kaniini> apk add pc:purple
2017-10-30 21:22:57 <ncopa> my bad
2017-10-30 21:23:01 <scv> was just saying there is no package 'purple' as far as i know, libpurple is backend to pidgin
2017-10-30 21:23:02 <ncopa> yeah
2017-10-30 21:23:14 <ncopa> pidgin-dev was the correct package
2017-10-30 21:23:28 <ncopa> using apk add pc:purlple you let apk find the package for you
2017-10-30 21:23:41 <ncopa> ok i gotta get some sleep
2017-10-30 21:23:47 <ncopa> c u
2017-10-30 21:23:51 <kaniini> see you tomorrow
2017-10-30 21:23:53 <_ikke_> what is the pc: prefix?
2017-10-30 21:24:01 <_ikke_> pkgconfig?
2017-10-30 21:24:09 <kaniini> it asks apk to search by pkgconf provider yes
2017-10-30 21:24:13 <_ikke_> right
2017-10-30 21:27:09 <_ikke_> I wonder, why would configure talk about package virtual:world?
2017-10-30 21:32:48 <kaniini> _ikke_: pkgconf uses a similar dependency resolution strategy as apk does.  the packages given on the command line are added as requirements to a `virtual:world` package
2017-10-30 21:33:22 <_ikke_> ah ok
2017-10-31 02:51:35 <aGaTHoS> arent you going to add a megatools package?
2017-10-31 03:40:36 <aGaTHoS> can I have both versions of fuse installed? 3.x.x and 2.x.x??
2017-10-31 07:36:08 <neckro> Hi, how can i solve this issue? Feb 26 06:18:46 streaming kern.alert kernel: [  107.204980] grsec: From 192.168.1.100: denied resource overstep by requesting 4096 for RLIMIT_CORE against limit 0 for /tmp/prooted-2904-uGy3nM[FXServer:2907] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0, parent /home/neckro/server/proot[proot:
2017-10-31 07:37:20 <ryonaloli> neckro: that's a harmless warning
2017-10-31 07:37:29 <ryonaloli> grsec just logs an event that otherwise would not be loggedcx
2017-10-31 07:37:31 <ryonaloli> *logged
2017-10-31 07:37:40 <ryonaloli> if you really want to disable the warning, there's a sysctl toggle for it
2017-10-31 07:39:25 <neckro> proot is exiting with error 11.
2017-10-31 07:39:41 <neckro> proot info: pid 2952: terminated with signal 11
2017-10-31 07:40:16 <neckro> and in messseges i get that error about rlimit_core
2017-10-31 07:40:42 <ryonaloli> so you're getting a segfault
2017-10-31 07:40:53 <ryonaloli> the error is just saying that the program crashed but couldn't write a coredump file (which is normal)
2017-10-31 07:40:57 <ryonaloli> the reason for it crashing is unrelated
2017-10-31 07:42:47 <neckro> hmm.. then can be the FXServer problem i`m try to run.
2017-10-31 07:46:37 <neckro> ryonaloli, can you please tell me what sysctl is handling rlimit_core? i`m keep looking on internet but no success. Thank you.
2017-10-31 07:48:07 <ryonaloli> something with resource in the name
2017-10-31 07:48:28 <ryonaloli> kernel.grsecurity.resource_logging
2017-10-31 07:48:34 <ryonaloli> at least on my system (gentoo, not alpine)
2017-10-31 07:49:13 <neckro> Thank you!!
2017-10-31 07:49:17 <ryonaloli> np
2017-10-31 09:16:18 <_ikke_> You can also set it with ulimit
2017-10-31 10:08:43 <neckro> _ikke_ thank you, but i reinstalled vanilla and everything is working flowless :D
2017-10-31 14:17:51 <qoh> hi
2017-10-31 14:18:04 <qoh> anybody online?
2017-10-31 14:18:17 <kahiru> hey, for now
2017-10-31 14:18:21 <kahiru> what's up?
2017-10-31 14:18:38 <ncopa> hi
2017-10-31 14:18:59 <qoh> :) i'm feeling brave ... so i am trying to get current alpine to boot on a Soekris net4801 from CF
2017-10-31 14:19:44 <qoh> serial connection works, but i'm dropped to an emergency shell ... and from there I cannot see the block devices
2017-10-31 14:20:04 <ncopa> oh, i think i know whats wrwong
2017-10-31 14:20:14 <ncopa> the mmc driver is missing
2017-10-31 14:20:19 <ncopa> from initramfs
2017-10-31 14:20:52 <qoh> ncopa: maybe. but there's also an ide harddisk installed ... and that one is 'invisible' too
2017-10-31 14:21:22 <ncopa> then the driver for that is missing too
2017-10-31 14:21:40 <ncopa> try: lsmod | grep mmc
2017-10-31 14:25:22 <qoh> i'll check. getting into the initramfs means that i am not missing cpu support in the kernel, right?
2017-10-31 14:26:11 <qoh> i'm asking, because that was the issue back when i booted freebsd - for the GEODE cpu option had to be compiled in first.
2017-10-31 14:26:40 <qoh> also, among the last lines before emergency shell right now i get: [   11.648009] microcode: no support for this CPU vendor
2017-10-31 14:29:46 <qoh> as you expected. modprobe: module mmc not found in modules.dep
2017-10-31 14:31:07 <ncopa> how did you install it?
2017-10-31 14:31:11 <ncopa> with setup-alpine?
2017-10-31 14:31:30 <ncopa> if you used setup-alpine, then its a bug
2017-10-31 14:32:33 <qoh> ncopa: yes. i followed the automated section of https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Create_a_Bootable_Compact_Flash\#Automated
2017-10-31 14:33:29 <qoh> i'll make a copy of the cf contents in order to inspect on my main machine
2017-10-31 14:33:39 <ncopa> i found this: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Bootstrapping_Alpine_on_Soekris_net4xxx
2017-10-31 14:33:47 <ncopa> which is sort of ancient...
2017-10-31 14:33:49 <ncopa> alpine 1.7
2017-10-31 14:34:17 <ncopa> qoh: apparently it was possible to boot alpine on soekris 10 years ago :)
2017-10-31 14:34:30 <qoh> i'm sure it still is :D
2017-10-31 14:35:29 <qoh> i have these in the main dir of the CF: apks  boot  ldlinux.c32  ldlinux.sys
2017-10-31 14:36:03 <ncopa> hum
2017-10-31 14:36:34 <ncopa> i think you need to create the boot/initramfs
2017-10-31 14:36:34 <qoh> and these in /boot: config-hardened  initramfs-hardened  modloop-hardened  syslinux  System.map-hardened  vmlinuz-hardened
2017-10-31 14:37:24 <ncopa> gunzip -c boot/initramfs-hardened | cpio -t | grep mmc
2017-10-31 14:37:32 <ncopa> i suspect we dont ship the mmc driver there
2017-10-31 14:37:49 <ncopa> can the soekris boot from usb?
2017-10-31 14:38:40 <ncopa> if you could boot it from usb, then you may be able to run update-kernel with mmc enabled
2017-10-31 14:39:08 <qoh> no it can't. command running
2017-10-31 14:39:35 <qoh> just to compare: what would the module for IDE harddisk be named?
2017-10-31 14:40:54 <qoh> it appears to be there: lib/modules/4.9.32-0-hardened/kernel/drivers/mmc
2017-10-31 14:42:22 <qoh> ... and in config-hardened there's CONFIG_MMC_BLOCK=m
2017-10-31 14:45:58 <qoh> this SE question has detailed outputs from the boot: https://unix.stackexchange.com/q/401375/12169
2017-10-31 14:59:35 <qoh> ncopa: in syslinux.cfg i have APPEND alpine_dev=usbdisk:vfat modules=loop,squashfs,sd-mod,usb-storage quiet nomodeset console=ttyS0,9600
2017-10-31 15:00:01 <qoh> would i have to name mmc there? or is this 'modules' declaration about something else?
2017-10-31 15:00:13 <qoh> i'll try :)
2017-10-31 15:00:22 <ncopa> the problem is that the mmc kernel module is not included in the boot/initramfs-hardened
2017-10-31 15:01:59 <qoh> ncopa: but it is. it showed when did the gunzip command
2017-10-31 15:02:13 <ncopa> oh, it did?
2017-10-31 15:02:30 <ncopa> then it should be enough to add mmc to the modules=....
2017-10-31 15:04:03 <qoh> ncopa: just added it and tried. still not there
2017-10-31 15:04:26 <ncopa> can you do: modprobe mmc
2017-10-31 15:04:30 <ncopa> at the emergency shell?
2017-10-31 15:05:13 <qoh> ... with same result as before: 'modprobe: module mmc not found in modules.dep'
2017-10-31 15:05:21 <ncopa> huh
2017-10-31 15:05:51 <qoh> syslinux.cfg apparently has all the correct references. like KERNEL /boot/vmlinuz-hardened
2017-10-31 15:06:02 <ncopa> find /lib/modules -name 'mmc*'
2017-10-31 15:06:04 <qoh> and 'INITRD /boot/initramfs-hardened'
2017-10-31 15:06:19 <ncopa> should show the same as gunzip command did
2017-10-31 15:06:46 <ncopa> maybe mmc is on the IDE bus?
2017-10-31 15:06:47 <qoh> ncopa: yes, it does
2017-10-31 15:06:56 <ncopa> and the IDE kernel module is missing?
2017-10-31 15:07:47 <qoh> modprobe mmc_block works (but still no corresponding device showing up)
2017-10-31 15:08:07 <qoh> ncopa: what's it called- the IDE module?
2017-10-31 15:08:34 <ncopa> that i dont know
2017-10-31 15:08:46 <ncopa> hum
2017-10-31 15:10:37 <qoh> hmm the unpacked initramfs has a lot of modules named that are not in the emergency shell
2017-10-31 15:10:54 <qoh> anything under 'lib/modules/4.9.32-0-hardened/kernel/drivers/mmc/host' actually
2017-10-31 15:11:07 <qoh> maybe this about the specific vendor driver?
2017-10-31 15:11:36 <ncopa> try: lsmod | ide_pci_generic
2017-10-31 15:11:50 <ncopa> and ata_generic
2017-10-31 15:13:29 <qoh> ata_generic is loaded. the other isn't available
2017-10-31 15:14:14 <ncopa> that might be the reason why you also dont see the other disk
2017-10-31 15:15:26 <qoh> ok. the comments in config-hardened refer to the modules i am able to load as 'card' drivers. while the others - the ones that i am missing - are the according host controller
2017-10-31 15:15:53 <qoh> still strange they're not in the lib/modules, no?
2017-10-31 15:16:03 <qoh> otherwise i could try and manually load them
2017-10-31 15:23:00 <qoh> found the modules when listing via 'modprobe -l'. loaded all of them. no luck
2017-10-31 16:16:46 <qoh> starting to get a feeling that newer kernels simply don't support that hw anymore :/
2017-10-31 17:21:45 <mepholic> generally support isn't dropped for devices in the kernel
2017-10-31 17:21:53 <mepholic> unless the devices are horribly broken
2017-10-31 17:25:22 <qoh> mepholic: the closest thing i found to getting the hw to work on a newer kernel is this: http://debian.takhis.net/soekris/soekris.html
2017-10-31 17:26:42 <qoh> but loading any of the supposed successor modules of the ancient ones does still not cause any additional devices to show
2017-10-31 17:46:24 <vkrishn> qoh: try these "sd_mod uhci-hcd ehci-hcd ohci-hcd usb-storage"
2017-10-31 17:46:49 <vkrishn> iirc, these and its depends are needed for any usb/mmc to work
2017-10-31 17:56:12 <vkrishn> if it does, would be a great help in updating alpine wiki page
2017-10-31 19:17:50 <duncan^> hi, virt-install is not working for me on edge
2017-10-31 19:18:20 <duncan^> It says "ValueError: Namespace Libosinfo not available"
2017-10-31 19:19:00 <duncan^> installation of libosinfo and libosinfo-dev does not work
2017-10-31 19:21:37 <rdutra> duncan^: `sudo apk add libosinfo` worked for me in edge
2017-10-31 19:22:30 <duncan^> , needed to update
2017-10-31 19:22:40 <duncan^> Cheers!
2017-10-31 19:22:43 <rdutra> yw
2017-10-31 19:23:19 <duncan^> I think it should be a dependency.
2017-10-31 19:42:38 <TBB> probably should; while it's a decreasing thing in Alpine, sometimes you still run into packages that don't have their deps correct
2017-10-31 19:48:50 <TBB> and the reason for that is probably that package contributors might already have those dependencies installed and therefore miss adding them, I don't know
2017-10-31 21:04:46 <ncopa> could also be due to upgrade
2017-10-31 21:05:46 <ncopa> duncan^: i just pushed virt-install-1.4.3-r1 can you please verify that it works?
2017-10-31 22:58:46 <duncan^> ncopa: works for me. cheers