2016-11-01 00:05:22 hi
2016-11-01 00:05:51 im having difficulties installing a package, "so:libgcj.so.17 (missing)"
2016-11-01 00:05:55 any ideas?
2016-11-01 00:06:16 i am attempting to install it from edge
2016-11-01 00:48:12 back again, doing some research, but figured i'd see if anyone here might know some possible causes of a "login loop": i login, screen blanks for a second, then brings me back to the login prompt
2016-11-01 00:48:25 shell failed to run
2016-11-01 00:49:21 hmm
2016-11-01 00:49:56 Wayward_One: maybe something with securetty even
2016-11-01 00:51:10 i see...
2016-11-01 01:12:18 well, i can bypass it with ctrl+alt+f1 and startx, but hopefully i can find a more permanent solution
2016-11-01 02:34:27 I'm trying to build the uWebSockets C++ project on alpine linux. make is balking at "#include " with the error "fatal error: string: No such file or directory". I'm unfamiliar with C++. What am I missing that provides ?
2016-11-01 02:39:37 Wayward_One: you installed lxdm and xfce?
2016-11-01 02:41:15 sabrehagen: some includes are in a different place, little things like that... got no Alpine install that's running right now so I can't quickly check but such details come up when compiling stuff for Alpine
2016-11-01 02:41:48 TBB: what steps can i start taking to get this working? string seems pretty fundamental
2016-11-01 02:42:26 just a sec, I'll quickly make myself a cup of tea and boot one of my machines
2016-11-01 02:53:36 TBB, yes
2016-11-01 02:53:52 Wayward_One: change the session from Default to xfce and see if it repeats
2016-11-01 02:54:01 while you're in lxdm
2016-11-01 02:54:33 on the login screen?
2016-11-01 02:55:24 i tried changing that in the dropdown, no change
2016-11-01 02:55:41 sabrehagen: it is fundamental and if I just type a simple c++ program and compile it it's found, so that suggests a problem with the makefile... I'm no C++ developer, I can barely code silly little stuff with it but if the include doesn't work then the makefile might be pointing at the wrong places for includes
2016-11-01 02:56:35 Wayward_One: yeah, that's what I meant. I remember the default not working for me but choosing the XFCE session logged me in okay.
2016-11-01 02:57:24 hmm... no change for me, logging in as root or normal user
2016-11-01 03:00:03 this is just a guess, no basis on anything... dbus running?
2016-11-01 03:00:28 (5 am, haven't slept for more than an hour, problemsolving is a bit challenging :)
2016-11-01 03:02:09 yep, set to start on boot
2016-11-01 03:02:19 heh, i know the feeling
2016-11-01 03:15:02 I installed lxdm and tried to generate errors in logs but no useful messages were found
2016-11-01 03:18:55 nothing that would jump out of the screen anyway... maybe your lxdm.log will tell your something mine doesn't tell me
2016-11-01 03:38:09 hmm, nothing that jumps out at me either, nothing that clearly shows a problem
2016-11-01 03:41:02 interestingly though, i reinstalled lxdm and xfce, and tried your earlier suggestion again, and finally got past the login screen with the xfce session choice
2016-11-01 03:41:41 only as root though, i can't login as the normal user i created before
2016-11-01 03:57:52 here's my lxdm.log, in case there's anything helpful: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23409837/
2016-11-01 04:05:39 could there be a root owned file in the user's home directory that X can't write to or something similar?
2016-11-01 04:05:57 yeah, that's what my log looked like as well
2016-11-01 04:14:15 hmm.. there might be, but i'm actually heading to bed, so i'll have to check in the morning. thank you for your help today :)
2016-11-01 11:55:50 Hi Devs, I believe there is a problem with the "alpine-virt-3.4.5-x86_64.iso" image on the downloads page
2016-11-01 11:57:05 page states 29 MB size, when downloaded the image is only 1.4 MB
2016-11-01 11:58:06 SHA256 mismatch too, unsuprising as the file size is different.
2016-11-01 12:04:39 <_ikke_> bozak: Yeah, it looks like it
2016-11-01 12:04:48 <_ikke_> (I cannot fix it)
2016-11-01 12:09:30 I dont need the image, I was just testing but wanted to give the Alpine team a heads up
2016-11-01 12:09:53 _ikke_, hi, are you part of Alpine?
2016-11-01 12:10:31 <_ikke_> bozak: Tangentially
2016-11-01 12:10:44 <_ikke_> Just helping out
2016-11-01 12:10:47 <_ikke_> Mostly here
2016-11-01 12:12:50 Cool, will you pass on my findings, or shall I report them somewhere?
2016-11-01 12:13:44 <_ikke_> ncopa: alpine-virt-3.4.5-x86_64.iso image seems to be broken, only 1.4MB
2016-11-01 12:13:46 <_ikke_> There :P
2016-11-01 12:27:46 there we go, easy :)
2016-11-01 12:29:16 thank you.
2016-11-01 12:31:01 https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi In this guide, do i really need fat32? Its a shitty filesystem, wont EXT work?
2016-11-01 12:32:18 franks2, yes, rpi bootloader requires fat
2016-11-01 12:32:20 iirc
2016-11-01 12:32:32 It does? :O
2016-11-01 12:32:50 if you plan to use the default run-from-tmpfs mode, the backing fs does not matter much
2016-11-01 12:33:09 if you want run-from-sdcard, you want to likely partition it to two with fat32 boot, and ext4(/whatever) root
2016-11-01 12:33:09 not planning to do that
2016-11-01 12:51:05 hi
2016-11-01 15:55:03 hi
2016-11-01 23:32:37 hi guys, does anyone know if there's an apk for rkt?
2016-11-02 02:43:03 ncopa: just wanted to mention that bind has a vulnerability. Would you mind updating it to: 9.10.4-P4 (https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-01434/0)
2016-11-02 11:48:44 anyone know how I can gdb pid 1 without it saying ptrace is forbidden
2016-11-02 11:48:51 ptrace: Operation not permitted.
2016-11-02 13:59:05 http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.4/releases/x86_64/alpine-virt-3.4.5-x86_64.iso seems to be truncated for me, it's only 1408K instead of the full 29M
2016-11-02 13:59:41 Is this the right place to report an issue like that, or is there somewhere else?
2016-11-02 14:02:24 alpinenoob: you are right
2016-11-02 14:18:10 alpinenoob, fixed
2016-11-02 14:18:18 well, the rsync master's copy is now fixed
2016-11-02 14:24:08 Thanks, I went ahead and just downloaded 3.4.4 instead
2016-11-02 15:14:01 Is there a reason there are crons like dcron and fcron in the repositories but not cronie?
2016-11-02 15:15:27 <_ikke_> Most of the time it's either that no one felt the need to have it, or it has some incompattibilities
2016-11-02 15:18:44 hey, I'm trying to pxeboot alpine with apk repository on my webserver and it fails, because even though I set ip=dhcp the interface is down and without ip (well, obviously) when trying to access the repo. any ideas?
2016-11-02 15:24:53 hello all
2016-11-02 15:25:10 Is there a way to get a list of packages that need upgrading?
2016-11-02 15:25:27 Like, what will be upgraded if I do apk upgrade?
2016-11-02 15:26:19 thafreak: wouldn't apk upgrade -s kinda do what you want?
2016-11-02 15:30:03 Probably...
2016-11-02 15:30:16 I didn't see that switch before
2016-11-02 15:30:28 I'll have to see how verbose it's output is
2016-11-02 15:30:32 Thanks kahiru
2016-11-02 15:31:38 Yep, that looks like it will work. Thanks again kahiru
2016-11-02 15:32:04 thafreak: you're welcome
2016-11-02 18:40:19 thafreak: 'apk version' should give you what you want
2016-11-02 18:40:26 after 'apk update', of course
2016-11-03 04:45:59 I can't update the time on my alpine-linux 4.4 given the instructions in the wiki. this is what i get: https://gist.github.com/sabrehagen/dbb7abf407cd23d3d122a8e91a3eaf24
2016-11-03 04:57:08 <__number5__> sabrehagen: you running on a bare metal machine or a VM or inside docker?
2016-11-03 04:57:28 <__number5__> assumed you mean Alpine 3.4...
2016-11-03 04:57:40 __number5__: bare metal windows machine running docker
2016-11-03 04:57:43 sorry, yes, 3.4
2016-11-03 04:58:41 <__number5__> sabrehagen: yep, you won't have permission to change hardware time inside docker
2016-11-03 04:59:13 if i run `date` inside docker, will it reflect the host system's date, or the container's date?
2016-11-03 04:59:15 <__number5__> unless you set privilege but that's not possible on windows AFAIK
2016-11-03 05:00:22 is that answer in reference to which date is returned?
2016-11-03 05:00:23 <__number5__> for docker on windows it's actaully a small host linux called Moby-Linux which is based on alpine
2016-11-03 05:00:53 oh cool - TIL
2016-11-03 05:01:09 <__number5__> date will return the time of Moby Linux which by default from Windows
2016-11-03 05:30:27 thanks
2016-11-03 09:49:42 Anyone got any idea how to gdb pid1/
2016-11-03 09:49:45 Anyone got any idea how to gdb pid1?
2016-11-03 09:49:49 I just get permission denied
2016-11-03 10:03:38 jkbbwr: I assume you are root?
2016-11-03 10:04:01 jkbbwr: I have a grsec x86_64 kernel, I can gdb -p 1 without permission denied.
2016-11-03 10:05:09 jkbbwr: It complains about PaX protection though, but that can be worked around, see for example https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Hardened/Debugging
2016-11-03 10:06:42 nidan_: Hm this might be a docker issue then
2016-11-03 10:06:58 nidan_: I need to gdb pid1 inside a container using alpine as base I get rejected ptrace
2016-11-03 10:08:59 jkbbwr: Hm, wasn't there a local root just a few weeks ago leveraging ptrace? Might have something to do with it. (Not the DrK bug).
2016-11-03 10:26:05 nidan_: not sure. Basically long story short im getting segfaults in a python script inside alpine
2016-11-03 10:26:11 inside a container hosted on cent6
2016-11-03 10:26:14 7**
2016-11-03 10:47:35 jkbbwr: gef? =)
2016-11-03 10:48:14 it just blows its head open and gives no logs no traceback
2016-11-03 10:48:16 jkbbwr: Ok, well, I have 0 knowledge about Docker, not my kind of cup of tea, so, can't really help there. =/
2016-11-03 10:48:21 and I cant gdb it outside because musl
2016-11-03 10:50:04 The gdb you're using is not compiled for musl?
2016-11-03 10:50:25 I was trying to gdb outside the container and that was libc
2016-11-03 10:50:52 Ok.
2016-11-03 12:18:14 nidan_: GOT THE ASS
2016-11-03 12:18:20 nidan_: ujsoin
2016-11-03 12:27:22 <^7heo> wat?
2016-11-03 12:33:42 ^7heo: +1
2016-11-03 12:34:08 <^7heo> Hey nidan_
2016-11-03 12:34:21 jkbbwr: Do you mean something along with "Got the sucker?" Like in, found the bug?
2016-11-03 12:34:29 ^7heo: Yo. =)
2016-11-03 12:39:11 nidan_: Yea segfault inside ujson that was *sometimes* loaded in some cases
2016-11-03 12:39:16 ujson does not seem to play inside alpine
2016-11-03 12:40:11 Interresting. =)
2016-11-03 12:42:57 nidan_: [ 690.046721] credits[2002]: segfault at 7f84b2bd4a60 ip 00007f84b32d2a30 sp 00007f84b2bd4a20 error 6 in ujson.so[7f84b32cc000+209000]
2016-11-03 12:44:36 What version of ujson?
2016-11-03 12:45:15 Whatever was bundled with ujson wheel
2016-11-03 13:00:18 <^7heo> omg ujsoin == ujson
2016-11-03 13:00:23 <^7heo> that was a hard one
2016-11-03 13:00:48 <^7heo> jkbbwr: paxctl?
2016-11-03 13:01:12 ^7heo: eh?
2016-11-03 13:02:17 <^7heo> some binaries segfault if you change their pax flags
2016-11-03 13:09:01 ^7heo: Er I don't exactly know what but ujson is a library called via python that sometimes segfaulted *shrugs* dont care ripped it out
2016-11-03 16:18:08 hi all
2016-11-03 16:18:23 I have a problem running the (mounted) docker binary in alpine: on a Ubuntu 16.04 host with docker-engine 1.12.3 - i always get "/usr/bin/docker: No such file or directory" and got as far as figuring out that the binary needs some libraries
2016-11-03 16:19:05 i already tried mounting libc.so.6 and libltdl.so.7 into the container...
2016-11-03 16:20:11 We've been using this to create Docker images in CI jobs that run in Docker containers, but that was on RancherOS... and now we've reinstalled the boxes with Ubuntu, and it doesn't work anymore
2016-11-03 16:21:18 i know about the libc vs. musl issue, but maybe one of you is able to run (mounted) docker inside Alpine and could give me a hint as to what may be wrong
2016-11-03 19:07:08 Is there some way I can report typos in Alpine Linux's scripts/website without filing a bug report?
2016-11-03 19:12:58 nice addition to virt img
2016-11-03 19:12:59 :)
2016-11-03 19:13:16 <_ikke_> mailing list perhaps
2016-11-03 19:14:00 true
2016-11-03 19:14:11 let me see if it knows intel vfs
2016-11-03 19:14:51 <_ikke_> that was a reply to minimalism
2016-11-03 19:15:23 a
2016-11-03 19:15:26 well it matched
2016-11-03 19:18:11 anyway it does not
2016-11-03 19:18:16 time for the mailing list
2016-11-03 19:21:54 it would be mice though to include those drivers for the virtual
2016-11-03 19:22:02 quite modern and often nowaways
2016-11-03 19:22:38 with intel's new 63 vf per port I as one don't use bridge at all
2016-11-03 19:27:39 ah lol
2016-11-03 19:27:43 missing from standard as well
2016-11-03 19:38:39 Question: can I install it without network /
2016-11-03 19:38:40 ?
2016-11-03 19:39:05 I can squeeze another kernel in there
2016-11-03 20:08:29 minimalism, email git formatted patches are accepted in alpine-aports mailing list...
2016-11-03 20:50:49 hi guys, i have been exploring alpine for a setup that will run on openshift. (which is based on kubernetes) now i have been reading about DNS "shortcomings" of alpine. I do not really understand the shortcomings and if they still exist as stated here: https://github.com/janeczku/docker-alpine-kubernetes ? if there is any further read recommended about alpine on kubernetes that would be helpful too. thank you.
2016-11-03 21:01:05 getting missing operating system after installation
2016-11-03 21:23:40 when I use setup it installs ok
2016-11-03 21:23:49 but if I mount it and then install syslinux and all
2016-11-03 21:23:54 it says missing opreating system
2016-11-03 21:26:51 https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Setting_up_disks_manually#Custom_partitioning
2016-11-03 21:26:54 not really working
2016-11-04 02:52:31 why isn't tor available in apk
2016-11-04 02:53:47 tor (missing):
2016-11-04 03:14:33 ah got it
2016-11-04 03:14:36 how do I restart?
2016-11-04 03:14:38 does nothing
2016-11-04 03:14:53 root@localhost:~# reboot
2016-11-04 03:14:55 root@localhost:~#
2016-11-04 05:04:58 nvm -f flag got it
2016-11-04 05:05:38 next question, I'm running it in vmware but for some reason with xfce open-vm-tools doesn't resize or anything
2016-11-04 05:05:42 the window
2016-11-04 05:19:38 ... anybody?
2016-11-04 11:35:23 Anyone who knows why cups isn't showing more than a few makes when adding a new printer? It shows Fuji Xerox, Generic, HP, Index, Raw and Ricoh. Usually there's a ton of makes right? Was a long time since I used cups last. I have a Canon printer, it's detected on the USB port so, everything fine there. Just can't seem to find any drivers.
2016-11-04 11:35:58 Are they not included in the Cups package? (Anymore? I have no memory of ever installing anything extra to get that long list of make/models.)
2016-11-04 11:38:25 no subpkg availalbe?
2016-11-04 11:38:59 Never mind, I thought I installed gutenprint, but I actually only got gutenprint-cups; I installed all of gutenprint and restarted cups, all is fine now. =)
2016-11-04 11:39:24 damn, another 3 seconds of my life wasted
2016-11-04 11:39:50 clandmeter: Sorry, I'll make it up with a beer or other beverage of your choice when we meet. ;)
2016-11-04 11:40:00 :)
2016-11-04 11:40:02 when is htat?
2016-11-04 11:40:52 I don't really have a plan for that, is there any meetup or so?
2016-11-04 11:40:58 =)
2016-11-04 11:41:07 not that i know off
2016-11-04 11:41:10 or i wasnt invited
2016-11-04 11:41:16 :)
2016-11-04 13:15:58 this means you'll have to finish the pint 3 seconds faster than the usual to make up for it
2016-11-04 18:22:34 hey all! I am looking for some feedback on running alpine linux on aws. I would like to do it in an AMI (company policy) but was wondering if there is a supported one or I have to build and support my own
2016-11-04 21:40:53 quick question: what alternatives are there to clamsmtpd, which isnt availalbe as an alpine package
2016-11-04 21:42:14 ah yeah it's called clamsmtp now
2016-11-04 21:52:09 Hi, how do I set apk to satify deps
2016-11-04 21:52:27 required by: keepalived-common-1.2.23-r2[so:libcrypto.so.38] keepalived-1.2.23-r2[so:libcrypto.so.38]
2016-11-04 21:53:08 a router without vrrp
2016-11-04 21:53:11 what can I se
2016-11-04 21:53:13 say
2016-11-04 21:56:08 Noticing that apk update && apk add .... doesnt work... If I separate the two statements, they work.... problem with && in the lxc exec command???
2016-11-04 21:59:58 <__number5__> use apk -U add
2016-11-04 22:45:02 I am using alpine linux with xfce and open-vm-tools
2016-11-04 22:45:07 open-vm-tools auto starts
2016-11-04 22:45:09 but
2016-11-04 22:45:14 it doesn't resize the scree nor anything
2016-11-04 22:45:17 how can I do this?
2016-11-04 22:53:30 Is the default crond included with alpine-baselayout an existing cron or something created by alpine?
2016-11-04 23:05:12 minimalism: busybox crond
2016-11-04 23:06:03 clandmeter: The /etc/crontabs/ and /etc/periodic/{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly} are all specified by busybox crond?
2016-11-04 23:06:09 No modifications whatsoever done for alpine?
2016-11-04 23:07:35 not sure i understand your question
2016-11-04 23:07:58 busybox does not setup those files
2016-11-04 23:08:06 I want to know if the directory structure for cron related things in /etc/ were specified by alpine
2016-11-04 23:08:13 like if busybox's crond defaults to those
2016-11-04 23:08:22 yes
2016-11-04 23:08:31 to which part
2016-11-04 23:09:51 if we have done modifications to crond it must be inside busybox pkg
2016-11-04 23:09:55 but i dont think we do
2016-11-04 23:10:17 baselayout just sets up the needed directory and files used by bb crond
2016-11-04 23:13:51 clandmeter: do you know why with open-vm-tools and xfce the window doesn't resize?
2016-11-04 23:15:33 Fearf: no idea. is that open-vm-tools related at all?
2016-11-04 23:16:22 well, i'm using it in vmware
2016-11-04 23:16:34 and it doesnt seem to resize
2016-11-04 23:17:51 Fearf: what do you mean with resize?
2016-11-04 23:18:25 the window should follow the resolution
2016-11-04 23:18:51 clandmeter: with vm-tools usually when I resize the vm gui it autofits it
2016-11-04 23:18:53 to match
2016-11-04 23:19:44 Fearf: i have no idea, i never seen that before.
2016-11-04 23:21:27 is there a dev channel or something?
2016-11-04 23:22:27 yes, but thats hardly a dev question.
2016-11-04 23:22:43 its better to ask developers of open-vm-tools
2016-11-04 23:44:11 Fearf: did you install the gtk pkg?
2016-11-04 23:44:19 yes.
2016-11-04 23:44:32 seems that has libresolutionSet.so
2016-11-04 23:46:03 Fearf: https://github.com/vmware/open-vm-tools/issues/54
2016-11-04 23:46:20 it has some info.
2016-11-04 23:50:08 hm
2016-11-04 23:50:16 none of those work it seems
2016-11-05 00:40:04 How does apk handle the same package in multiple repos?
2016-11-05 00:41:14 Will it just use whichever repo is listed first, or is there some way to specify a preference/priority?
2016-11-05 01:26:34 I got a quick q about lbu
2016-11-05 01:41:54 if anyone has a second
2016-11-05 02:43:17 I've discovered lbu doesn't commit directory permissions, what's a work around for this?
2016-11-05 05:23:28 say i wanted to build my own apk packages (such as in my case, my own brew of nginx with some customizations).. how do i install/update them? is it possible to do something like apk add file.apk? or will i need to put my custom apk on a webserver and then add the link to /etc/apk/repositories
2016-11-05 08:00:24 biax, you can do "apk add file.apk" but it's recommended to make a repository for upgrades (can be a local path, or network url)
2016-11-05 08:00:48 fabled: local path as in a linux path?
2016-11-05 08:01:18 how would i add that do /etc/apk/repository ? /../../.. ?
2016-11-05 08:04:14 yes
2016-11-05 08:04:28 you can put an absolute path there
2016-11-05 08:04:47 but it needs to point to real repository
2016-11-05 08:05:06 when you build it with abuild, you can use REPODEST in abuild.conf to tell where it makes it
2016-11-05 11:33:41 Hello alpine-devs! What's the status for the 3.5.0 release? Any ETA already? :)
2016-11-05 11:58:57 libressl related debug packages would be useful to debug ssl related crashes..
2016-11-05 11:59:56 right now i have a crash with libcurl -> libssl -> libcrypto -> musl backtrace
2016-11-05 12:00:11 and those libs have no debug info
2016-11-05 12:07:43 it seems my libcurl is not the latest but i cannot update it
2016-11-05 12:07:56 would be nice if apk could tell me what's missing for the upgrade
2016-11-05 14:05:27 nsz, will add -dbg; you can try "apk upgrade --latest" to see if you get more error messages why it's not upgrading
2016-11-05 14:23:01 yes, that prints the reason thanks
2016-11-05 14:24:30 (some -dev packages were depending on openssl-dev which prevented the libcurl upgrade)
2016-11-05 16:39:24 trying to build gcc and am running into a funny issue with texinfo. getting "no matching '@end tex'", "no matching '@end multitable'" etc
2016-11-05 16:39:33 I have texinfo and texinfo-doc installed
2016-11-05 17:46:01 hi, is it save to just downgrade from "edge" to 3.4 or 3.5?
2016-11-05 17:46:10 s/save/safe
2016-11-05 17:47:52 :q
2016-11-05 19:46:37 hanez: usually yes
2016-11-05 19:46:52 i didn't recently downgrade but over time i had to do it a few times
2016-11-05 19:47:09 the musl switch is the only dangerous boundary, and that's long in the past
2016-11-05 19:47:21 you should fetch apk-tools-static just in case
2016-11-05 19:47:41 tbh i've never seen downgrade not work, i just don't wanna say it out loud
2016-11-05 22:02:48 Hi, anyone has a uim,Ibus or scim build and anthy input ? It used to be under testing but is gone.
2016-11-05 22:46:43 Does Alpine use an alternative to PAM? I've never seen a distro that didn't have it
2016-11-05 23:53:14 Slackware doesn't have PAM, it's considered one of the insecure "software anarchy" things.
2016-11-05 23:54:27 and we do have it.
2016-11-05 23:54:41