2016-08-01 01:39:29 <bozonius> My X11 doesn't work on Alpine in VirtualBox.  I've read that there is little hope for this, being that Alpine uses musc not glib or libc.
2016-08-01 01:40:08 <bozonius> I'd like to experiment a bit with Alpine before going full bore with it.  That's why I was trying to use vbox
2016-08-01 01:40:42 <bozonius> There seems to be a 4.4.16 version of the Guest additions, but I don't have the matching kernel.
2016-08-01 01:51:44 <__number5__> bozonius: have you tried using a external X11 client?
2016-08-01 01:58:28 <dalias> bozonius, i know someone else who had that problem. i'd love to know the fix
2016-08-01 01:58:43 <dalias> it's probably something stupid
2016-08-01 01:59:07 <dalias> the graphics driver seemed to init right because we could see the old default X bg pattern if we passed the option to use it
2016-08-01 01:59:59 <dalias> it was probably something stupid with clients not running
2016-08-01 02:00:03 <dalias> maybe missing packages
2016-08-01 02:00:09 <dalias> it works fine on my laptop tho
2016-08-01 03:01:49 <bozonius> thanks dalias, __number5__
2016-08-01 03:02:11 <bozonius> I tried setting up a .xinitrc file, remembering to start dbus first, etc.
2016-08-01 03:02:32 <bozonius> but I think the problem has something to do with a missing vboxvideo driver, though I am not certain
2016-08-01 03:03:10 <bozonius> the missing clients theory sounds promising, to be sure
2016-08-01 03:03:18 <bozonius> maybe a window manager, etc?
2016-08-01 03:03:34 <bozonius> I put startxfce4 in .xinitrc
2016-08-01 03:04:14 <bozonius> one time I actually saw the mouse arrow appear, then it froze.  A few times I saw the screen go from black to light gray to black again in about a second
2016-08-01 03:04:30 <bozonius> Something is happening, but I am no X11 expert
2016-08-01 03:04:45 <bozonius> looked at various logs but could not find anything "interesting"
2016-08-01 03:09:54 <bozonius> and, __number5__, I did try external client.  Set DISPLAY to the remote client, and startx + for the remote to allow it, but this always seems to have issues.  There's some other security stuff you have to go through to make it work.
2016-08-01 03:10:07 <bozonius> I'm pretty certain THAT would work, though.
2016-08-01 03:13:49 <bozonius> sorry, I meant xhost +, not startx +
2016-08-01 03:53:08 <__number5__> I would use ssh X11 forward to let XServer in virtualbox access the outside client
2016-08-01 04:44:14 <kazblox> <bozonius> My X11 doesn't work on Alpine in VirtualBox.  I've read that there is little hope for this, being that Alpine uses musc not glib or libc.
2016-08-01 04:44:22 <kazblox> have you tried disabling libwfb
2016-08-01 04:45:08 <kazblox> by disabling it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-modules.conf
2016-08-01 05:04:46 <bozonius> kazblox:  No, I haven't tried that.  I'm almost ready to give up on this project.  I worry that Virtualbox won't work on it, either, even on bare metal.  This is not Alpine's fault necessarily, but still, that's what I need to go on.
2016-08-01 05:07:25 <bozonius> anyway, gotta run for now.  Need to reboot...
2016-08-01 07:13:39 <^7heo> dalias: a lot of people have that issue, including myself. what's the host of your vbox?
2016-08-01 07:31:54 <^7heo> I personally have "Failed to load module vboxvideo". Because it's only available for testing.
2016-08-01 07:32:02 <^7heo> s/testing/edge/
2016-08-01 12:01:42 <crich> Hello, i'm using alpine linux and i like it a lot, thanks for all the good work!
2016-08-01 12:03:13 <crich> I'd like to automatically figure out when a new Version is available and inform the User via a WebGUI. How do i find out via APK or some other mechanism about a new stable release?
2016-08-01 12:03:58 <kl3> crich: See `apk --help'
2016-08-01 12:06:45 <crich> @k13 with apk version i can see that new package versions are available but not if e.g. 3.4.3 has been released
2016-08-01 12:08:38 <darkfader> crich: i don't know an automated way either, but you could instead track the website where the release notes go
2016-08-01 12:09:34 <_ikke_> crich: Check alpine-base
2016-08-01 12:17:09 <crich> _ikke_:  Thank you, that is what i was looking for.  I'll add "latest-stable" to my /etc/apk/repositories  and check regularly for alpine-base. If a new alpine-base is available i'll offer the user to upgrade.
2016-08-01 13:07:35 <DC3_> check the repo for latest main @crich
2016-08-01 13:09:00 <DC3_> Was X only a problem in Vbox or did the problem affect KVM as well?
2016-08-01 13:24:10 <DC3_> I'm trying to find compute performance tests for Alpine vs stock linux distro like Debian.  Is there such a thing?
2016-08-01 14:38:19 <dalias> ^7heo, it was not on my host but somebody else's, and iirc it was osx
2016-08-01 14:39:12 <dalias> ^7heo, even if vboxvideo is not available it should be able to do 16-color vga...
2016-08-01 14:39:26 <dalias> or vesa
2016-08-01 14:44:27 <^7heo> yeah well, it crashes for now.
2016-08-01 17:15:32 <balazs> Hi, just created a new alpine 3.4 box from the IDO with vbox, but cannot install curl
2016-08-01 17:15:51 <balazs> with apk add --update curl, I get unsatisfiable constraints
2016-08-01 17:18:49 <^7heo> balazs: paste please.
2016-08-01 17:21:19 <balazs> ^7heo: http://pastebin.com/cTnLQxXR
2016-08-01 17:22:34 <^7heo> balazs: what if you apk update before?
2016-08-01 17:24:15 <balazs> ^7heo: same output
2016-08-01 17:24:41 <^7heo> balazs: $ apk policy curl
2016-08-01 17:24:46 <balazs> the update says: "OK: 48 distinct packages available"
2016-08-01 17:24:56 <^7heo> (you probably won't get anything from that but it's worth checking imho)
2016-08-01 17:25:05 <balazs> correct, no output
2016-08-01 17:25:41 <balazs> should I have ran "setup-alpine" ?
2016-08-01 17:25:44 <balazs> I did not...
2016-08-01 17:26:16 <balazs> but I did set up networking, so I can get to the internet
2016-08-01 17:27:03 <^7heo> wait wat?
2016-08-01 17:27:10 <^7heo> what's the state of your install atm?
2016-08-01 17:27:53 <balazs> blank install + I set up the network
2016-08-01 17:28:01 <^7heo> also, short answer: /sbin/setup-apkrepos
2016-08-01 17:30:10 <balazs> oh OK, thanks
2016-08-01 17:30:26 <^7heo> works?
2016-08-01 17:30:35 <balazs> yes
2016-08-01 17:30:43 <balazs> thanks!
2016-08-01 17:31:00 <^7heo> you're welcome.
2016-08-01 21:12:41 <kl3> So I have several network related services in my default runlevel which also boot if I'm not online at all. Would it suffice to add 'rc_need="net"' to the respective service's configuration under /etc/conf.d/ as well as 'rc_provide="net"' and 'ping_default_gateway=yes' to /etc/conf.d/net-online?
2016-08-01 21:13:57 <kl3> Which check is performed to test network connectivity is irrelevant here (the example above pings the gateway), I'm rather unsure whether there is something else I have to configure in Alpine's init system.
2016-08-01 22:55:46 <kl3> ^ didn't work, the services start anyway.
2016-08-02 00:21:10 <DJ_> Hi I have a quick question: I get the following error when I try to `make module_prepare` under linux src.
2016-08-02 00:21:20 <DJ_> kernel/bounds.c:1:0: error: code model kernel does not support PIC mode
2016-08-02 00:21:32 <DJ_> Anyone here have a pointer to what I could be doing wrong?
2016-08-02 00:21:45 <DJ_> I am building this on Alpine:edge with musl 1.1.15-r0
2016-08-02 00:21:53 <DJ_> and I am building the linux source.
2016-08-02 15:05:50 <TBB> got a bit of a build infrastructure question... traditionally when building packages you use a one-time chroot or similar isolated environment for building packages
2016-08-02 15:06:21 <TBB> build the package, get it out of the build environment, move it to a repository server and update the repository index
2016-08-02 15:08:49 <TBB> now... on Alpine packages are signed as soon as they're created using the builder's signing key. as the package is transferred to the repository server, the index needs to be updated, but that server might not be running Alpine, so the question is, how should the package index be formed in a setup like this?
2016-08-02 15:10:34 <TBB> in the Red Hat world this is quite a trivial task as such
2016-08-02 15:10:45 <TBB> even when using signed packages only
2016-08-02 15:24:12 <TBB> one of the few possible solutions I've come up with is to add a disk share to the temporary build env and just let abuild write the packages there and reindex
2016-08-02 23:54:06 <xet7> Is there some default way to open port 80 on Alpine Linux? In some textfile? Or do I need to install some package?
2016-08-02 23:58:18 <^7heo> sudo nc -lp 80
2016-08-02 23:58:46 <xet7> Thanks!
2016-08-03 00:24:10 <xet7> that command "nc -lp 80" gets stuck when I run it Alpine Linux with virtual optimized kernel
2016-08-03 00:24:17 <xet7> does docker interfere with it?
2016-08-03 00:24:25 <xet7> port 22 does work
2016-08-03 00:28:49 <xet7> doh is nc netcat? :D
2016-08-03 01:02:52 <boingolov> meow
2016-08-03 07:03:00 <nindustries> Hi, any plans to incorporate OpenVPN-NL in the repos? https://openvpn.fox-it.com
2016-08-03 07:03:07 <nindustries> It's a hardened openvpn version
2016-08-03 07:04:09 <fcolista> nindustries, you can add a feature request in bugs.alpinelinux.org
2016-08-03 07:11:14 <nindustries> Ill do that, thanks fcolista
2016-08-03 08:20:35 <^7heo> xet7: yes nc is netcat.
2016-08-03 09:24:47 <zwiPZuf9W2Lt> nindustries: you can also package it yourself.
2016-08-03 10:33:01 <nindustries> Yeah, no clue how
2016-08-03 12:24:39 <zwiPZuf9W2Lt> nindustries: http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Creating_an_Alpine_package
2016-08-03 16:37:46 <das_ofce> hi, any ideas how to solve http://pastebin.com/T1EcS98Z ? Is there any settings how I can exclude rspamd from grsec? or install kernel without grsec for test?
2016-08-03 17:55:01 <dlaube> das_ofce: I have not experience with rspamd, but you might be able to change some of the tunables under sysctl -w kernel.grsecurity.<WHATEVER> to make it work
2016-08-03 17:55:15 <dlaube> that or maybe change up some of the pax settings
2016-08-03 17:55:29 <dlaube> check out https://grsecurity.net/quickstart.pdf
2016-08-03 20:07:39 <das_ofce> dlaube: ok, and to disable grsec I need to install linux-vanilla?
2016-08-03 20:56:01 <RageLtMan> Seems ubuntu containers (LXC) on alpine can't use upstart
2016-08-03 20:56:18 <RageLtMan> whats the proper way to have services installed within the container start when the container is started?
2016-08-03 21:11:09 <darkfader> RageLtMan: i have no idea about proper, s6 is another start-stuff thing i saw used a few times
2016-08-03 21:11:41 <RageLtMan> seems that having upstart broken is a major problem - ubuntu packages apparently depend on it running or fail to install
2016-08-03 21:12:21 <darkfader> :(
2016-08-03 21:12:59 <RageLtMan> Yeah, agreed
2016-08-03 21:13:29 <RageLtMan> Right now its diverted and symlinked as /bin/true, but how the deuce do packaged services get started?
2016-08-03 21:13:32 <RageLtMan> init doesnt even seem to run
2016-08-03 21:13:49 <RageLtMan> cheating presently with start hooks manually starting the svcs
2016-08-04 04:12:08 <RageLtMan> How does one configure an ubntu container such that it actually finishes booting...? keeps hanging on init at "Stopping Mount filesystems on boo"
2016-08-04 04:12:10 <RageLtMan> t
2016-08-04 08:14:06 <kl3> When trying to start the `net-online' service, I'm getting "sh: 1: unknown operand" repeatedly, has anyone else seen this
2016-08-04 08:14:22 <kl3> ?
2016-08-04 08:15:01 <kl3> /bin/sh links to /bin/busybox as usual, I'm running 3.4.1.
2016-08-04 08:51:41 <ncopa> net-online service?
2016-08-04 11:37:43 <nindustries> Anyone ever had standard_init_linux.go:175: exec user process caused "exec format error" ?
2016-08-04 11:47:06 <nindustries> 
ACTION is puzzled

2016-08-04 11:47:41 <^7heo> never got that.
2016-08-04 11:50:14 <nindustries> Im running a regular dockerfile
2016-08-04 11:50:16 <nindustries> hm
2016-08-04 11:51:31 <^7heo> nindustries: on what arch?
2016-08-04 11:53:49 <nindustries> alpine linux amd64
2016-08-04 11:53:53 <nindustries> ^7heo: ^
2016-08-04 11:54:14 <nindustries> Linux atlas 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3 (2016-07-02) x86_64 GNU/Linux
2016-08-04 11:54:24 <nindustries> Docker version 1.12.0, build 8eab29e
2016-08-04 11:54:40 <^7heo> then I don't know.
2016-08-04 11:54:47 <nindustries> Yeah, im puzzled
2016-08-04 12:06:36 <nindustries> My dockerfile/run.sh; http://pastie.org/private/py3btrnbcg5xwa9u3rnpa
2016-08-04 12:14:31 <nindustries> risregard, I had no shebang line
2016-08-04 13:20:21 <zxd> hi
2016-08-04 13:44:06 <zxd> what are the S: and I: tags of a package in APKINDEX
2016-08-04 13:45:17 <zxd> individual files don't keep a checksum correct? I can't tell if an file belongs to package X
2016-08-04 13:46:44 <clandmeter> Size
2016-08-04 13:46:51 <clandmeter> Installed Size
2016-08-04 13:51:13 <clandmeter> no you cannot
2016-08-04 13:53:05 <ncopa> zxd: you can only know if a file belongs to package X if it is installed
2016-08-04 15:03:58 <chris2> hi. i heard alpine has rustc on musl, but i cant find it. any pointers?
2016-08-04 15:04:09 <^7heo> :D
2016-08-04 15:04:12 <^7heo> that didn't take long.
2016-08-04 15:04:23 <^7heo> chris2: yeah, check out @testing
2016-08-04 15:04:57 <chris2> i thought i did! let me look again
2016-08-04 15:05:46 <chris2> as someone who tried it and failed after a fair amount of effort, i'm very interested ;)
2016-08-04 15:05:57 <^7heo> chris2: wait, you're right.
2016-08-04 15:06:01 <^7heo> chris2: can't find it either.
2016-08-04 15:06:04 <chris2> heh
2016-08-04 15:06:09 <^7heo> chris2: gimme a sec' I'll check git.
2016-08-04 15:07:26 <^7heo> not in git? =/
2016-08-04 15:08:59 <chris2> do you know who did it?
2016-08-04 15:10:07 <^7heo> yes
2016-08-04 15:10:25 <^7heo> not yet pushed.
2016-08-04 15:10:28 <chris2> ok
2016-08-04 15:10:36 <^7heo> I'm asking when he intends to push :)
2016-08-04 15:11:27 <ncopa> ha!
2016-08-04 15:11:32 <chris2> hey ncopa ;)
2016-08-04 15:11:36 <ncopa> hi
2016-08-04 15:11:40 <^7heo> chris2: it's gonna be pushed "soon" ™
2016-08-04 15:11:47 <chris2> ok
2016-08-04 15:11:49 <ncopa> i dont think there are any aport for it yet
2016-08-04 15:11:49 <^7heo> chris2: there was some other package in the way
2016-08-04 15:12:01 <^7heo> chris2: but it's apprently in a good way.
2016-08-04 15:12:19 <^7heo> (I'm not checking that thoroughly so maybe ncopa knows more)
2016-08-04 15:12:35 <^7heo> ncopa: no there's none :)
2016-08-04 15:12:51 <^7heo> chris2: do you have twitter?
2016-08-04 15:12:54 <chris2> sure
2016-08-04 15:12:58 <^7heo> https://twitter.com/jakubjirutka/status/760780645161377792
2016-08-04 15:13:02 <^7heo> Then you can show some love ;)
2016-08-04 16:53:18 <Stuttergart> Hey, is anyone else seeing exit code 139 (SEGV) on the following:
2016-08-04 16:53:30 <Stuttergart> docker run -ti alpine:3.4 /bin/sh
2016-08-04 16:53:53 <Stuttergart> I don't see anything in the email archive for alpine-user about such an issue
2016-08-04 16:58:42 <ncopa> Stuttergart: does not happen here
2016-08-04 16:58:54 <ncopa> $ docker  run -ti alpine:3.4 /bin/sh
2016-08-04 16:58:54 <Stuttergart> That's what other folks on my team are saying
2016-08-04 16:59:02 <Stuttergart> I'm running dockerd on Ubuntu 16.04 on iron
2016-08-04 16:59:05 <ncopa> what does dmesg say?
2016-08-04 16:59:08 <ncopa> oh,
2016-08-04 16:59:12 <ncopa> what kernel do you use?
2016-08-04 16:59:13 <ncopa> uname -a
2016-08-04 16:59:14 <Stuttergart> I've  just installed the *musl* packages but same behavior
2016-08-04 16:59:41 <ncopa> oh
2016-08-04 16:59:42 <Stuttergart> 4.6.4-xanmod6
2016-08-04 16:59:45 <ncopa> i have heard about that
2016-08-04 16:59:57 <ncopa> i think its the kernel
2016-08-04 17:00:05 <Stuttergart> that sort of makes sense
2016-08-04 17:00:26 <Stuttergart> xanmod is a non-Ubuntu kernel with some fixes for Lenovo laptop suspend etc
2016-08-04 17:00:28 <ncopa> https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/23471
2016-08-04 17:00:37 <Stuttergart> but you have heard of folks running stock Ubuntu kernels having issues?
2016-08-04 17:00:56 <Stuttergart> Thank you!
2016-08-04 17:01:03 <Stuttergart> That looks like it is probably related.
2016-08-04 21:04:23 <konev> HI!
2016-08-04 21:05:34 <konev> there is a template for Xen alpine?
2016-08-05 00:41:50 <konobi> hey all... has anyone been able to get galera (mysql oss cluster software) running on alpine?
2016-08-05 03:20:16 <transhuman_> hi is there any directions for installing alpine linux on arm architecture under qemu. It doesnt have an iso but a directory of files instead...thanks in advance
2016-08-05 07:49:38 <nindustries> bumping my old bug report... https://bugs.alpinelinux.org/issues/5761
2016-08-05 07:49:42 <nindustries> pdo_pgsql broken
2016-08-05 08:02:19 <nindustries> This is a serious issue
2016-08-05 08:10:52 <alexandernst> I get this when I try to install php5-redis. Why?
2016-08-05 08:10:52 <alexandernst> fetch http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.4/community/x86_64/APKINDEX.tar.gz
2016-08-05 08:10:52 <alexandernst> ERROR: unsatisfiable constraints: php5-redis (missing): required by: world[php5-redis]
2016-08-05 08:20:16 <nindustries> Is there a dev channel for alpine linux or so ?
2016-08-05 08:35:36 <das_ofce> nindustries: http://alpinelinux.org/community/ yep
2016-08-05 11:00:25 <angelus1969> hello all, I'm trying to install Alpine on a new Supermicro server, but it can't boot, either from the BCM console or USB stick:
2016-08-05 11:00:36 <angelus1969> Mounting boot media failed.
2016-08-05 11:00:36 <angelus1969> initramfs emergency recovery shell launched. Type 'exit' to continue boot
2016-08-05 11:00:37 <angelus1969> sh: can't access tty: job control turned off
2016-08-05 11:00:50 <angelus1969> I added the waitusb bit, but it doesn't help
2016-08-05 11:01:16 <angelus1969> this happen with the 'standard' version as well as the extended, the 'virt' version however works, but lacks the network drivers for the server
2016-08-05 11:06:34 <ncopa> huh
2016-08-05 11:06:54 <ncopa> angelus1969: how do you boot? from usb?
2016-08-05 11:07:09 <ncopa> is it alpine 3.4.2?
2016-08-05 11:07:11 <angelus1969> yes, and with a 'virtual iso' from the BCM console
2016-08-05 11:07:43 <angelus1969> BMC console, sorry :)
2016-08-05 11:08:02 <angelus1969> yes, latest version I can find 3.4.2
2016-08-05 11:08:39 <ncopa> can you type things in the emergency recovery shell?
2016-08-05 11:08:51 <ncopa> i.e was the keyboard drivers loaded
2016-08-05 11:08:59 <angelus1969> I found a couple of references to this same error with older versions, and the tip was to add waitusb to the syslinux.cfg file, but it doesn't help
2016-08-05 11:09:26 <angelus1969> no I can't type anything (this was also the case with the other people who experienced this error)
2016-08-05 11:10:03 <ncopa> i think you need serial support
2016-08-05 11:11:56 <angelus1969> how do you mean?
2016-08-05 11:12:30 <ncopa> the defaul iso image does not enable serial console
2016-08-05 11:12:40 <ncopa> the alpine-virt does
2016-08-05 11:12:43 <ncopa> (i think)
2016-08-05 11:12:47 <ncopa> or next will
2016-08-05 11:13:11 <ncopa> i'm not totally sure how this BMC console works
2016-08-05 11:14:20 <angelus1969> but I get the same error if I use a USB drive directly on the server, not through the BMC console
2016-08-05 11:14:21 <TomJepp> if it's SM, it's probably a fake-VGA & USB keyboard and mouse
2016-08-05 11:14:26 <TomJepp> as long as it's reasonably modern
2016-08-05 11:16:41 <ncopa> there are 2 issues
2016-08-05 11:16:51 <ncopa> one is to get console working
2016-08-05 11:16:59 <ncopa> other is to find the boot device
2016-08-05 11:17:43 <TomJepp> I had some XHCI related issues booting on recent SM gear a few months ago... but I can't remember how I solved them :(
2016-08-05 11:22:11 <darkfader> TomJepp: i had to turn it off / switch to usb2 port
2016-08-05 11:23:13 <TomJepp> darkfader: on some of the more recent hardware I seem to think there's no proper USB2 fallback
2016-08-05 11:23:23 <TomJepp> so you *need* working USB3 on boot
2016-08-05 11:23:48 <darkfader> in my case it was rhel6, just didn't do that
2016-08-05 11:24:35 <TBB> yup, xhci was broken in el6
2016-08-05 11:24:44 <darkfader> i think xhci init also takes a little longer, some time i got the device show up after the mountroot had already failed
2016-08-05 11:27:11 <TomJepp> ncopa: I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same issue actually - the virtual ISO stuff attaches via USB as well
2016-08-05 11:30:28 <angelus1969> so is there anything I can do to get it running and/or getting the network drivers on the virt version??
2016-08-05 11:35:04 <ncopa> its interesting that the alpine-virt works though
2016-08-05 11:35:24 <ncopa> maybe we just need add usb3 drivers to initramfs image?
2016-08-05 11:36:05 <TomJepp> I know that was what I ended up doing in vyos to get it to work on recent SM hardware from USB boot
2016-08-05 11:37:29 <ncopa> angelus1969: i want fix it so it works out of the box
2016-08-05 11:37:40 <ncopa> but since i dont have the hw...
2016-08-05 11:37:44 <ncopa> i need help
2016-08-05 11:38:05 <angelus1969> the virt version was the first I tried, but somehow there's no network connectivity, I choose the virt because the server will be running LXC mostely (couple of KVM)
2016-08-05 11:38:21 <ncopa> angelus1969: can you give me the output of `lsmod`
2016-08-05 11:38:39 <ncopa> yes alpine-virt only provides drivers for "virtual" hardware
2016-08-05 11:39:26 <ncopa> TomJepp: do you remember exactly what you modified for USB boot?
2016-08-05 11:39:31 <ncopa> eg what driver you added?
2016-08-05 11:39:34 <ncopa> or removed
2016-08-05 11:39:54 <TomJepp> ncopa: xhci_pci and xhci_hcd
2016-08-05 11:39:57 <TomJepp> (added)
2016-08-05 11:40:03 <ncopa> seems like we do ship xhci-pci and xhci-hcd
2016-08-05 11:40:42 <angelus1969> here you can find the lsmod output of the second (identical) server which still have proxmox installed: http://pastebin.com/ZYJ2VnwV
2016-08-05 11:40:50 <angelus1969> is that okay?
2016-08-05 11:41:30 <TomJepp> that one's not loading xhci at all, interesting for modern SM hardware...
2016-08-05 11:42:04 <ncopa> maybe it not booting from usb
2016-08-05 11:42:23 <angelus1969> nope, it's not :)
2016-08-05 11:42:30 <TomJepp> angelus1969: what hardware actually is it?
2016-08-05 11:42:48 <ncopa> angelus1969: i'd be interested in lsmod output from alpine-virt
2016-08-05 11:42:48 <angelus1969> i will boot the other one from the virt again and run lsmod from there, brb
2016-08-05 11:42:54 <ncopa> thanks
2016-08-05 11:43:03 <TomJepp> no, as in what SM board etc is it?
2016-08-05 11:44:44 <angelus1969> I think this is the board: SUPERMICRO MBD-X10DDW-I-O BOX 2
2016-08-05 11:45:06 <ncopa> impi drivers are available at least
2016-08-05 11:47:00 <TomJepp> so that's what, haswell-ep or broadwell-ep... nothing that weird about that...
2016-08-05 11:47:14 <ncopa> what is dca module?
2016-08-05 11:47:30 <ncopa> $ modinfo dca | tpaste
2016-08-05 11:47:31 <ncopa> http://tpaste.us/A9q1
2016-08-05 11:47:54 <ncopa> does not give any useful info at all
2016-08-05 11:48:02 <TomJepp> Direct Cache Access
2016-08-05 11:48:10 <TomJepp> gets loaded by 10gig intel cards afaik
2016-08-05 11:48:36 <ncopa> also used by ioatdma module
2016-08-05 11:48:40 <TomJepp> oh, by igb as well
2016-08-05 11:48:58 <ncopa> igb is the pci express nic driver
2016-08-05 11:49:09 <TomJepp> yeah, I know ;) not just 10gig cards but also gig cards
2016-08-05 11:51:11 <angelus1969> hmmmm, how to get the output of lsmod out of there :) is the usb persistent?
2016-08-05 11:51:28 <ncopa> ha
2016-08-05 11:51:50 <ncopa> if you dd it then its readonly
2016-08-05 11:52:01 <ncopa> try take a pic with a smartphone or so
2016-08-05 11:53:34 <angelus1969> https://imgur.com/a/FPYRG and https://imgur.com/a/D4Drt
2016-08-05 11:53:47 <ncopa> TomJepp: was it enough to just include the xhci drivers or did you also manually modprobe them?
2016-08-05 11:53:53 <ncopa> i suspect they are not autoloaded
2016-08-05 11:54:20 <TomJepp> was enough to just include them for me
2016-08-05 11:54:25 <ncopa> ok
2016-08-05 11:55:00 <ncopa> angelus1969: thanks
2016-08-05 11:55:13 <ncopa> interesting that you have both xhci and ehci
2016-08-05 11:55:42 <TomJepp> yeah, looking at the hardware I think it's a generation too old to not have proper USB 2.0
2016-08-05 11:55:46 <TomJepp> so this might be a red herring
2016-08-05 11:57:27 <ncopa> angelus1969: can you please do: dmesg
2016-08-05 11:57:40 <ncopa> and find the parts where xhci is loaded
2016-08-05 11:58:35 <ncopa> more specific, i am interested in the tie difference from xhci is loaded and when the disk device (sda?) is detected
2016-08-05 11:59:15 <ncopa> but i do suspect that this is related usb. the virtual iso is likely on the usb bus too
2016-08-05 11:59:46 <TomJepp> lsusb -t might be enlightening
2016-08-05 11:59:57 <TomJepp> should show you what's attached where and what drivers are in use
2016-08-05 12:00:21 <ncopa> he cannot install lsusb without network
2016-08-05 12:00:36 <TomJepp> that's a good point. ;)
2016-08-05 12:01:07 <ncopa> i find this strange though
2016-08-05 12:01:12 <ncopa> the needed module should be there
2016-08-05 12:01:41 <ncopa> so it is probably related to how/when it is loaded
2016-08-05 12:01:59 <ncopa> lets say that it for some reason pulls in the usb2 driver first
2016-08-05 12:02:08 <ncopa> but that the usb3 driver is required
2016-08-05 12:03:20 <ncopa> angelus1969: can it boot from UEFI usb?
2016-08-05 12:05:51 <angelus1969> is this enough: http://imgur.com/O3doVZI
2016-08-05 12:06:01 <angelus1969> hmmm, I have to see if it can boot UEFI
2016-08-05 12:08:41 <ncopa> timing is interesting
2016-08-05 12:09:00 <ncopa> 2.67 -> 4.35
2016-08-05 12:09:38 <ncopa> it takes almost 2 seconds for it to show up
2016-08-05 12:10:14 <ncopa> angelus1969: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Create_UEFI_boot_USB
2016-08-05 12:10:52 <ncopa> i wonder if we could try add xhci-pci to the modules=.... boot option
2016-08-05 12:12:04 <angelus1969> yup, seems to be able to boot from UEFI USB drive
2016-08-05 12:27:57 <angelus1969> hmmm, little stuck here with the manual to create an UEFI USB... I have one Alpine LXC running (version 3.3) but that one can't seem to find gummiboot
2016-08-05 12:28:22 <kl3> Has anyone set up proper dependencies for OpenRC services so that for example network related ones won't start unless the machine has a working connection?
2016-08-05 12:54:23 <angelus1969> okay, manager to get gummiboot, but another question: the manual states to create the direcory: loader/entries but where? in the root? in /EFI/Boot??
2016-08-05 12:56:41 <kl3> angelus1969: /boot/efi/loader/entries/ is commonly used with Linux.
2016-08-05 12:57:21 <kl3> Right next to /boot/efi/loader/loader.conf
2016-08-05 12:59:34 <angelus1969> I'm used to Calculate and these directories don't exist
2016-08-05 12:59:44 <angelus1969> but nevermind, managed to creat the USB
2016-08-05 13:00:21 <kl3> angelus1969: Calculate?
2016-08-05 13:01:38 <angelus1969> Gentoo based distro I use on my desktop @home and @work
2016-08-05 13:02:05 <kl3> Ah.
2016-08-05 13:15:15 <angelus1969> @ncopa; well I did try to create the UEFI USB as stated in the manual you sent me, but either I did something wrong,but it can't boot from it (just continues with the next boot entry)
2016-08-05 13:16:34 <ncopa> lxc does not boot new kernel
2016-08-05 13:18:43 <angelus1969> nono, I needed the LXC to get to the gummiboot apk :)
2016-08-05 13:18:57 <angelus1969> I managed to create the USB, but the server wont' boot from it
2016-08-05 13:19:28 <ncopa> can you get a boot menu?
2016-08-05 13:19:32 <angelus1969> but I have to quit now, will there be a new (testing) iso with the right (USB) drivers?
2016-08-05 13:19:52 <ncopa> the problem is that the usb drivers seems to be correct
2016-08-05 13:19:54 <angelus1969> nope, no boot, the USB should load first, but the system just continues with the next entry in the boot list
2016-08-05 13:20:38 <ncopa> on my machine it boudl boot both from usb bios (legacy, with mbr) and with uefi
2016-08-05 13:20:53 <ncopa> first time i booted it i selected "USB disk" or similar
2016-08-05 13:20:54 <angelus1969> I will try another time here to ask the question again :)
2016-08-05 13:21:04 <ncopa> but it turned out to be the bios boot
2016-08-05 13:21:36 <angelus1969> oh no, I select F11, get to the menu, can choose the UEFI USB drive but it won't boot from it
2016-08-05 13:21:51 <angelus1969> if the server can't boot, it will just continue to a next entry
2016-08-05 13:22:18 <angelus1969> but the system does see the UEFI USB stick
2016-08-05 13:23:10 <angelus1969> but I really have to go now, will connect to irc soon and try again :)
2016-08-05 13:23:16 <angelus1969> thank for now for all the help
2016-08-05 13:23:56 <angelus1969> bye for now
2016-08-05 13:33:58 <zxd> hi
2016-08-05 13:34:17 <zxd> to what should build symlink point to ?
2016-08-05 13:34:18 <zxd> make[1]: *** /lib/modules/4.4.15-1-grsec/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
2016-08-05 13:34:25 <zxd> is it auto created by a specific package?
2016-08-05 13:39:20 <zxd> ah found it ln -sf /usr/src/linux-headers-${_abi_release} \
2016-08-05 13:39:20 <zxd> 		"$subpkgdir"/lib/modules/${_abi_release}/build
2016-08-05 13:39:23 <zxd> http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/aports/tree/main/linux-grsec/APKBUILD?h=3.4-stable&id=ede061ab491e997ea61ead29f868d883f555ff8c
2016-08-05 13:43:32 <zxd> actually linux-headers dosen't install into /usr/src
2016-08-05 14:14:26 <Err0r404> hello
2016-08-05 15:44:54 <zxd> how to increase size of in memory disk
2016-08-05 15:50:41 <zxd> diskless installation want to increase /
2016-08-05 16:02:44 <miasma> tmpfs accepts a certain % of total ram as a parameter
2016-08-05 16:04:40 <miasma> or some absolute size
2016-08-05 17:42:02 <zxd> miasma: what files to edit to change the size for shm             885M     0  885M   0% /dev/shm
2016-08-05 17:42:06 <zxd> and tmpfs           885M  537M  348M  61% /
2016-08-05 17:44:23 <TBB> for tmpfs not necessarily anything, you should be able to just use the remount option with the new size
2016-08-05 17:45:01 <TBB> see the mount options for tmpfs on the mount manpage
2016-08-05 17:46:30 <zxd> TBB: yes but I want it to be done on boot without custom  -o remount  hack script   I thought maybe there is an init script that reads from /etc/conf.d/
2016-08-05 17:52:11 <orion> Hi. Does anyone know when GHC will be officially released for Alpine?
2016-08-05 17:52:23 <orion> More specifically, when an APK will become available.
2016-08-05 17:58:45 <jzono1_> orion: I don't know when it'll make it's way to a release, but it's being worked on - and abuilds have been submitted. http://lists.alpinelinux.org/alpine-devel/5136.html
2016-08-05 18:35:13 <zxd> weird when untarring linux-grsec-dev-4.4.15-r1.apk  with perl Archive::Tar module I get  30 atime=1468842130.520981681 30 ctime=1468842129.750974335 68 APK-TOOLS.checksum.SHA1=4cdd996222998: checksum error at script.pl line 5 .
2016-08-05 18:35:31 <zxd> with tar utility I don't get any error nor do I see this file extracted
2016-08-05 19:06:58 <Err0r404> Hi is juste me or repo is broken ? http://pastebin.com/8UkFncMN
2016-08-05 19:25:56 <_ikke_> Err0r404: Looks to be working for me
2016-08-05 19:26:21 <_ikke_> curl -I http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.4/main/x86_64/APKINDEX.tar.gz                                                                                  ~
2016-08-05 19:26:24 <_ikke_> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
2016-08-05 19:33:48 <miasma> zxd: did you solve it already? the switch is e.g. size=8G in mount options
2016-08-05 19:35:49 <zxd> I manually remount root /  but I don't know in what boot script to put that parameter
2016-08-05 21:54:18 <Err0r404> ok thx _ikke_ :)
2016-08-06 00:30:58 <transhuman> hi is there any directions for emulating and installing the arm version on qemu?
2016-08-06 06:03:27 <icantgetno> Hi there! I was about to try alpine out in a virtual machine, but somehow the system does not see my virtual interface (tried to boot centos installer which was able to connect on the same vm). I created the vm with libvirt. Any ideas on how to get it running? I am using alpine-virt-3.4.2-x86.iso.
2016-08-06 06:34:19 <icantgetno> sorry, stupid me, using a virtio interface works
2016-08-06 06:38:01 <minimalism> Does Alpine Linux currently have CONFIG_EFI_STUB enabled in kernel?
2016-08-06 06:54:39 <icantgetno> hm, I somehow cant get networking up now
2016-08-06 06:54:42 <icantgetno> I have the link
2016-08-06 06:55:10 <icantgetno> but how do I assign an ip using dhcp on the install medium?
2016-08-06 08:17:57 <zxd> any idea what this means,   linux-grsec-dev-4.4.15-r1.apk
2016-08-06 08:17:58 <zxd> 30 atime=1468842130.520981681 30 ctime=1468842129.750974335 68 APK-TOOLS.checksum.SHA1=4cdd996222998: checksum error at ./upgrade.pl line 76.
2016-08-06 08:17:58 <zxd> 30 atime=1468842130.520981681 30 ctime=1468842129.750974335 68 APK-TOOLS.checksum.SHA1=affa07c617572: checksum error at ./upgrade.pl line 76.
2016-08-06 08:18:17 <zxd> you can write checksums in the tarball when creating them ?
2016-08-06 08:18:29 <zxd> er
2016-08-06 08:37:53 <maribu> Hi! I'm using alpine on my Raspberry Pi 3 and I just updated to the current linux-rpi2 package. Sadly the new kernel seems to no longer load kernel modules - at least no drivers like network driver and input drivers are loaded. The system does boot fine boots to X11, but I can not even toggle the "num lock" LED or "caps lock" LED on my keyboard.
2016-08-06 08:39:06 <maribu> Also the clock changes (starting from UTC 1990-01-01 00:00:00, as ntp sync does not work without network), so the system is not frozen. Also the fbcon kernel modules seems not to be loaded, as the first output on Screen is X, not a console showing the boot up process
2016-08-06 08:40:43 <maribu> Because of this, I believe that the kernel runs fine, but cannot load kernel modules. Is anyone else using alpine on a Rasberry Pi 3 or Pi 2? I'm also using a traditional installation of alpine on my Pi, which officially is not supported because the setup scripts are not prepared to install that on a Pi
2016-08-06 08:43:43 <maribu> I am aware that device tree (.dtb) files are needed in order for the kernel to know which hardware is present and to correctly load the kernel modules needed for the hardware. Therefore I copied the .dtb files from "/usr/lib/linux-rpi2" to "/boot", where my boot parition (FAT32 formatted first partition containing Raspberry Pi bootloader and kernel) is mounted. This way I was able to update the linux kernel up to now
2016-08-06 10:16:15 <carqo> I booted Alpine on VirtualBox, attached USB storage, did a diskless install and ran "lbu commit usb". Verified that /media/usb contains the snapshot. However the snapshot doesn't persist on reboot (/media/usb is not even mounted, although it's in fstab). Any ideas where to go from here?
2016-08-06 11:24:13 <kl3> TIL: I should have used virtual packages way earlier, putting all those -dev packages into virtual ones for dependency handling of software built from source is really nice and easy.
2016-08-06 12:11:45 <maribu> I tried to boot the linux-rpi2 kernel in version 4.4.15-r0 with the newiest bootloader (from git) - still no loading of kernel modules. For now I have just downgraded to version 4.4.14-r0
2016-08-06 14:32:48 <user___>     nick = "odedpriva1";
2016-08-06 14:32:52 <user___>     nick = "odedpriva1";
2016-08-06 14:32:53 <user___>     nick = "odedpriva1";
2016-08-06 14:32:53 <user___>     nick = "odedpriva1";
2016-08-06 14:32:53 <user___>     nick = "odedpriva1";
2016-08-06 16:30:44 <iio7> Is it me or isn't claws-mail in Alphines latest release?
2016-08-06 16:34:15 <nmeum> iio7: it is in community (at least for x86_64) http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.4/community/x86_64/claws-mail-3.13.2-r2.apk
2016-08-06 16:34:59 <iio7> nmeum, community packages are they made by the community, ie directly from Alpine?
2016-08-06 16:35:20 <iio7> I mean *not* from Alpine, but from "other people"?
2016-08-06 16:36:28 <nmeum> community contains official alpine packaged maintained by alpine developers. The only difference between packages in main and packages in community is that packages in community are not maintained beyond the six month release circle
2016-08-06 16:36:40 <nmeum> *packages
2016-08-06 16:36:51 <nmeum> see also: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Enable_Community_Repository
2016-08-06 16:37:13 <iio7> Thank you very much! :)
2016-08-06 16:44:51 <iio7> I have run Alpine on a couple of servers before, but that was before the community repo existed.
2016-08-06 16:45:42 <iio7> I am doing some testing in qemu, but can't seem to get X started up. I have installed xf86-video-modesetting, but when I start x I get a black screen.
2016-08-06 16:45:53 <iio7> Any ideas?
2016-08-06 17:15:38 <kalmi> Hi!
2016-08-06 17:15:44 <kalmi> What cause a service to show up in the output of 'rc-update -a', but not in the output of 'rc-status -a'?
2016-08-06 17:15:54 <kalmi> I installed from the alpine-virt-3.4.2-x86_64.iso today, then installed lighttpd using apk, but I can't get it to autostart. It also doesn't show up in the output of 'rc-status -a', but shows up in the output of 'rc-update -a'.
2016-08-06 17:16:05 <kalmi> Also, I am experiencing the same with any other service that I have tried so far (zoneminder, fail2ban, mariadb, php-fpm). I can start them like this: '/etc/init.d/lighttpd start', but 'rc-update add lighttpd default' does not get me autostart on boot.
2016-08-06 17:16:14 <kalmi> I was following this guide: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/ZoneMinder_video_camera_security_and_surveillance
2016-08-06 17:16:18 <kalmi> Any ideas? I have never used OpenRC before.
2016-08-06 19:44:11 <transhuman> hi sorry at the chance of being redundant (someone may have answered) I will ask again (sorry my scroll back lines in new clients was set to 500 ) Question: anyone know of any complete directions for getting the arm version of alpine linux running under qemu or some other emulator?
2016-08-06 21:10:31 <minimalism> Are any of you using Alpine on Scaleway?
2016-08-07 05:46:26 <odedpriva> Hi
2016-08-07 06:07:44 <odedpriva> cd
2016-08-07 08:04:44 <ouarehg> Is there a web search interface (or anything http(s)) for APK search?
2016-08-07 08:59:04 <icantgetno> Hello (again)! :) I am trying to join a domain with alpine, but apk does not find winbind ... does anyone know what to do?
2016-08-07 08:59:37 <icantgetno> Looks like the package was moved? Or is no longer supported.  http://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/packages?name=winbind&branch=&repo=&arch=&maintainer=
2016-08-07 10:29:59 <clandmeter> icantgetno: http://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/v3.4/main/x86_64/samba-winbind
2016-08-07 12:10:39 <icantgetno> thanks clandmeter
2016-08-07 14:26:53 <icantgetno> hm, what about samba-dc? :/
2016-08-07 14:26:57 <icantgetno> cant find it in 3.4
2016-08-08 04:33:45 <koorogi> Is there no package for 32 bit wine on amd64?
2016-08-08 06:31:07 <_abc_> Hi. Are there usage case studies where one would prefer alpine linux over other releases? Any info? Comparisons?
2016-08-08 06:41:01 <nindustries> morning
2016-08-08 06:58:03 <dso> Hi! I have a special case where I need a really old version of perl (5.10.1). Is there an easy way to use the package that was available in Alpine Linux 2.0 (http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/aports/tree/main/perl/APKBUILD?h=2.0-stable)?
2016-08-08 07:00:20 <dso> or could I copy that APKBUILD file to my local system and say: build this?
2016-08-08 07:06:28 <kl3> dso: Just try installing the old file by using `apk add /path/to/perl-5.10.1.apk'
2016-08-08 07:06:49 <sam88> hi
2016-08-08 07:07:04 <sam88> i need some help im newbie to alpine
2016-08-08 07:07:07 <dso> okay, do you know a place where to get this? here (http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/) the oldest version is 2.3
2016-08-08 07:09:13 <sam88> i try to install cron pakage but it says like this / # apk add cron ERROR: unsatisfiable constraints:   cron (missing):     required by: world[cron]
2016-08-08 07:10:07 <dso> sam88: there is no cron package, see here: http://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/packages?name=*cron*&branch=&repo=&arch=&maintainer=
2016-08-08 07:10:27 <dso> sam88: but there are others
2016-08-08 07:11:07 <sam88> @dso so i need to use different package rather than cron
2016-08-08 07:11:53 <dso> sam88: i think so (i am quite new to alpine, too), but you can find some in the package list a linked above
2016-08-08 07:12:11 <sam88> me too thank you verymuch dso
2016-08-08 09:23:14 <iosj> Hi! I wonder if it's possible to install libdb 4.8 AKA BerkeleyDB on Alpine?
2016-08-08 10:58:34 <TBB> interesting. I ran some updates into my virtual install and now it complains about bad inittab entries and refuses to boot.
2016-08-08 11:03:56 <TBB> now how the hell did I break inittab...
2016-08-08 11:04:48 <darkfader> inittab errors, just like the olden days :)
2016-08-08 11:04:55 <darkfader> and *idk*? :)
2016-08-08 11:05:12 <darkfader> at least inittab is easy to read/fix right?
2016-08-08 11:05:25 <TBB> shouldn't be that much of a problem, yeah
2016-08-08 11:21:32 <TBB> seems like a normal script file but it has 24 \0's at the end
2016-08-08 12:10:45 <TBB> yeh, something had overwritten inittab with an openrc script
2016-08-08 12:10:53 <TBB> strange, that
2016-08-08 15:30:21 <redshirtsteve> Can anyone assist with configuring Alpine to connect to Apple's icloud email server?
2016-08-08 15:39:47 <ncopa> redshirtsteve: this is channel for alpine linux distro. not the mail client
2016-08-08 15:40:35 <redshirtsteve> Oh! My apologies! Thanks for clarifying--should have read closer.... Happy Monday all!
2016-08-08 18:32:17 <RageLtMan> Is there any distribution-specific documentation for LXC-contained userspaces under Alpine? Already figured out i need to kernel.grsecurity.chroot_deny_unix = 0 to let Ubuntu's upstart scripts run
2016-08-08 18:49:49 <ncopa> RageLtMan: not that i know
2016-08-08 18:50:23 <ncopa> i expect things like java (and things that uses JIT compilers) may not work
2016-08-08 18:51:05 <ncopa> i think you may find info if you search for on distro-specific issues with grsecurity
2016-08-08 19:20:20 <RageLtMan> Searching for grsec specifics on distros without official grsec support is unproductive it seems, lots of old/bad info, no consistent KBs or organization
2016-08-08 21:01:19 <RageLtMan>  /join #grsecurity
2016-08-08 21:25:54 <^7heo> RageLtMan: try without a space ;)
2016-08-08 21:27:50 <clandmeter>  /join#grsecurity
2016-08-08 21:28:04 <^7heo> clandmeter: :D
2016-08-08 21:28:12 <clandmeter> time go to go bed.
2016-08-09 05:16:48 <_abc_> Hello. Has anyone got usage cases for alpine vs other releases? Blogs, anything?
2016-08-09 05:16:52 <_abc_> Links to *
2016-08-09 07:41:11 <ScrumpyJack> _abc_: hello. do you mean alpine vs other distros?
2016-08-09 07:47:41 <_abc_> I mean alpine vs other tiny distros on smaller/older devices. Yes.
2016-08-09 07:48:02 <_abc_> ScrumpyJack: ^
2016-08-09 08:21:04 <ScrumpyJack> there are no usage cases write-ups that I know of. not very helpful, but the best way to compare is to try it out. what device are you working with?
2016-08-09 08:24:57 <_abc_> Not yet, just interested in general what is available.
2016-08-09 12:47:40 <ScrumpyJack> fcolista: hi dude, you about?
2016-08-09 12:57:28 <miasma> apparently this is a bit outdated. the packages are already missing https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Seafile:_setting_up_your_own_private_cloud
2016-08-09 13:10:40 <ScrumpyJack> miasma: seafile has been moved to unmaintained
2016-08-09 15:32:26 <bogen> hi, I'm new to alpine linux. I have it working, but I can't get acpid to work. (had to add an rc service for it) /dev/input does exist, so the daemon can't start. Is there something I'm missing? poweroff does work
2016-08-09 15:33:44 <bogen> using it in kvm, and I need acpi power off to work (hence acpid)
2016-08-09 15:52:17 <TBB> I by no means claim this is the correct answer, but it could be that this specific device directory is created by udev
2016-08-09 15:53:06 <TBB> so if you have udev installed but not set to start, that could be the source of the problem. alpine, if I remember right, uses mdev and I've had situations before where mdev and udev devices differ
2016-08-09 15:53:33 <TBB> just a theory
2016-08-09 15:58:33 <bogen> yeah, I think you are right, I was about to enable the udev service and try it
2016-08-09 16:01:17 <bogen> well, I have udev running now, still now /dev/input
2016-08-09 16:09:43 <TBB> I have a fairly recent install here, I have that directory in it
2016-08-09 16:16:32 <TBB> what runlevel do you have udev on, and what runlevel do you have acpid on? (rc-status --all)
2016-08-09 16:17:21 <TBB> nah, that wouldn't explain it
2016-08-09 21:47:18 <Klowner_> I'm getting a couple weird errors linking against boost
2016-08-09 21:47:31 <Klowner_> I rebuilt boost though, and all seems fine now
2016-08-10 02:18:28 <bogen> TBB: udev is starting, let me check the run levels, I just now got back
2016-08-10 02:18:45 <bogen> I meant acpid is starting...
2016-08-10 02:18:49 <bogen> well, crashing
2016-08-10 02:20:10 <bogen> I need to check the kernel config for the virtgrsec kernel
2016-08-10 02:20:20 <bogen> and see if those interfaces are configure
2016-08-10 02:20:26 <bogen> are configured...
2016-08-10 02:29:22 <bogen> TBB: http://pastebin.ca/3681070
2016-08-10 02:31:26 <bogen> TBB: I figured it out I think
2016-08-10 02:35:04 <bogen> well, I figured out the crashing part
2016-08-10 02:35:19 <bogen> now I just need to make sure it only gets launched once
2016-08-10 02:35:31 <bogen> ( the evdev module needs to be loaded )
2016-08-10 02:45:39 <bogen> well, my /etc/apci directory is empty, so I may be missing some package. Also, I need to load the "button" module
2016-08-10 02:46:24 <bogen> I still need to get acpi shutdown working... I'll figure it out
2016-08-10 03:02:51 <bogen> TBB: got it working, I was not installing alpine base, it provided the files that were missing
2016-08-10 03:02:59 <bogen> acpi shutdown works now
2016-08-10 03:05:11 <bogen> well, specifically the busybox-initscripts package
2016-08-10 03:24:14 <bogen> ok, figured it out... needed the modules service as well
2016-08-10 03:57:10 <ojrg> how can you install sha256sum into alpine?
2016-08-10 04:12:08 <bogen> # apk info --who-owns $(which sha1sum)
2016-08-10 04:12:08 <bogen> /usr/bin/sha1sum symlink target is owned by busybox-1.24.2-r10
2016-08-10 04:12:26 <bogen> it is built into busybox
2016-08-10 04:12:51 <bogen> # apk info --who-owns $(which sha256sum)
2016-08-10 04:12:51 <bogen> /usr/bin/sha256sum symlink target is owned by busybox-1.24.2-r10
2016-08-10 04:15:43 <ojrg> Oh. I'm sorry then, but thanks for pointing me in the right direction
2016-08-10 04:16:58 <ojrg> /j bitcoin
2016-08-10 04:16:59 <ojrg>  
2016-08-10 09:36:01 <ScrumpyJack> does anyone have any notes on booting AL on a EFI macbook?
2016-08-10 10:08:52 <clandmeter> http://www.servethehome.com/gigabyte-r270-t61-2u-96-core-cavium-thunderx-server-review
2016-08-10 10:08:56 <clandmeter> interesting hardware
2016-08-10 10:22:36 <hrw> welcome back after conference and other breaks
2016-08-10 10:22:51 <clandmeter> hrw: hi
2016-08-10 10:23:20 <hrw> fabled: any luck with aarch64 stuff?
2016-08-10 10:23:59 <clandmeter> hrw: im building world as we speak
2016-08-10 10:24:07 <hrw> awesome
2016-08-10 10:25:19 <clandmeter> hrw: have you seen the new thunderx platform?
2016-08-10 10:25:29 <hrw> clandmeter: gigabyte ones?
2016-08-10 10:25:33 <clandmeter> yes
2016-08-10 10:25:57 <clandmeter> http://www.servethehome.com/gigabyte-r270-t61-2u-96-core-cavium-thunderx-server-review
2016-08-10 10:28:18 <hrw> clandmeter: I am waiting for something for home use.
2016-08-10 10:28:26 <^7heo> 96 cores total
2016-08-10 10:28:47 <darkfader> are they buyable now??!
2016-08-10 10:28:49 <^7heo> clandmeter: how much is this?
2016-08-10 10:29:01 <darkfader> oh wow, that's quite a monster
2016-08-10 10:29:12 <clandmeter> not sure about the cost.
2016-08-10 10:29:15 <^7heo> "If you are looking to deploy ARMv8 servers to a data center for development or production, these are the servers that will integrate well into existing 19" rackmount infrastructure."
2016-08-10 10:29:19 <^7heo> Coolio
2016-08-10 10:29:23 <^7heo> But still, that looks expensive to me.
2016-08-10 10:29:26 <^7heo> esp. coming from HP
2016-08-10 10:29:32 <^7heo> they're not reputed to be cheap
2016-08-10 10:29:36 <darkfader> 
ACTION has some odroid c2 but with ubuntu and it didn't see stable yet :/

2016-08-10 10:29:38 <clandmeter> hp?
2016-08-10 10:29:54 <^7heo> Sorry
2016-08-10 10:29:57 <darkfader> btw you know you can get free aarch64 "shells" at linaro?
2016-08-10 10:29:58 <^7heo> The blue color got me.
2016-08-10 10:30:08 <^7heo> read too fast.
2016-08-10 10:30:12 <^7heo> Gigabyte
2016-08-10 10:30:17 <^7heo> Much butter.
2016-08-10 10:30:23 <^7heo> 256GB (8x 32GB) DDR4 RDIMM < yeeeeeah.
2016-08-10 10:31:07 <^7heo> darkfader: free always rhymes with 'unreliable' to me, when it comes to hardware.
2016-08-10 10:31:34 <clandmeter> hrw: I hope to get one for Alpine's build infra.
2016-08-10 10:31:59 <^7heo> clandmeter: you hope to get that huge machine for alpine?
2016-08-10 10:32:05 <^7heo> clandmeter: where do we get the money for that?
2016-08-10 10:32:11 <hrw> ^7heo: 2TB ram max
2016-08-10 10:32:18 <darkfader> ^7heo: i had access to one for a few months, it worked ok and the staff there is helpful
2016-08-10 10:32:32 <darkfader> it's for sw porting and such so they want you to have a working env
2016-08-10 10:32:39 <^7heo> hrw: the Oracle servers have been supporting that for quite some time.
2016-08-10 10:32:45 <^7heo> hrw: but at the cost of a sports car.
2016-08-10 10:33:17 <^7heo> darkfader: I see.
2016-08-10 10:34:58 <clandmeter> ^7heo: we already bootstrap aarch64 on one of GIGABYTE's arm servers
2016-08-10 10:36:39 <hrw> run lot of VMs on it and you have both build and porter machine
2016-08-10 10:41:34 <kaiyou> Hey everyone, I have a dependency problem on edge, which I know happens from time to time, but do you know how long it usually takes to solve (cannot install rsyslog)
2016-08-10 10:42:30 <kaiyou> Details: rsyslog requires so:libfastjson.so.3 but libfastjson now ships libfastjson.so.4 I believe
2016-08-10 10:43:00 <hrw> kaiyou: so rsyslog needs bump and rebuild
2016-08-10 10:43:05 <hrw> 
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2016-08-10 10:44:02 <kaiyou> Okay, I do not know to much about the process and where I should report such an issue, could you provide some pointers?
2016-08-10 10:46:44 <^7heo> kaiyou: void* p1;
2016-08-10 10:46:50 <^7heo> kaiyou: you're welcome.
2016-08-10 10:47:09 <^7heo> oh sorry, you said pointerS
2016-08-10 10:47:17 <kaiyou> I was about to correct you :D
2016-08-10 10:47:19 <^7heo> kaiyou: void *p1, *p2;
2016-08-10 10:47:24 <^7heo> here you go.
2016-08-10 10:47:25 <kaiyou> Better, thanks.
2016-08-10 10:47:41 <^7heo> ;)
2016-08-10 10:48:06 <kaiyou> (This is actually the perfect line to start a troll about the C pointer syntax :D)
2016-08-10 10:48:44 <^7heo> (I wish one could write void *(p1, p2);)
2016-08-10 10:49:23 <hrw> clandmeter: can I fetch rootfs for aarch64 somewhere?
2016-08-10 10:50:02 <^7heo> (that way, it would make sense to write char c1, c2, c3, *(str1, str2, str3);)
2016-08-10 10:53:44 <clandmeter> hrw: http://dev.alpinelinux.org/~clandmeter/packages/alpine-aarch64/alpine/edge/main
2016-08-10 10:53:56 <clandmeter> thats the base of which is now building world
2016-08-10 10:54:12 <clandmeter> you can create your own rootfs from it
2016-08-10 10:55:18 <hrw> clandmeter: any debootstrap like tool exists for alpine?
2016-08-10 10:56:06 <kaiyou> Should I simply use abump and submit to patchwork?
2016-08-10 10:56:19 <clandmeter> hrw: apk has that ability
2016-08-10 10:56:26 <kaiyou> ^7heo, or maybe apkgrel -a instead of abump, sounds better
2016-08-10 10:56:44 <hrw> clandmeter: ok, will read
2016-08-10 10:57:14 <clandmeter> hrw: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Installing_Alpine_Linux_in_a_chroot
2016-08-10 10:57:28 <hrw> thx
2016-08-10 10:57:52 <clandmeter> hrw: i hope we can finish edge aarch64 soon.
2016-08-10 10:58:11 <^7heo> clandmeter: so where is the current building hardware hosted at?
2016-08-10 10:58:16 <^7heo> clandmeter: do we have doc about that?
2016-08-10 10:58:37 <clandmeter> doc about what?
2016-08-10 11:00:48 <clandmeter> ^7heo: http://b2b.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5423 thats what we use now.
2016-08-10 11:01:04 <^7heo> thanks.
2016-08-10 11:01:06 <^7heo> beb
2016-08-10 11:01:08 <^7heo> brb*
2016-08-10 11:02:30 <hrw> 14:21 root@pinkiepie-centos:$ cat /etc/alpine-release
2016-08-10 11:02:30 <hrw> 3.4.0
2016-08-10 11:02:30 <hrw> 14:21 root@pinkiepie-centos:$ uname -a
2016-08-10 11:02:30 <hrw> Linux pinkiepie.lan 4.4.11-reference.135.aarch64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 28 20:26:05 UTC 2016 aarch64 Linux
2016-08-10 11:02:38 <hrw> ignore shellprompt
2016-08-10 11:03:13 <^7heo> clandmeter: doc about where we have what
2016-08-10 11:03:37 <^7heo> clandmeter: the equivalent of a terraform description for our infra
2016-08-10 11:04:11 <clandmeter> ^7heo: we do not even have proper developent docs...
2016-08-10 11:04:19 <clandmeter> hrw: :)
2016-08-10 11:04:35 <^7heo> clandmeter: I know
2016-08-10 11:05:23 <^7heo> I'm a fan of code-as-documentation
2016-08-10 11:06:10 <^7heo> in this case, by "code", I mean "descriptive code"
2016-08-10 11:06:15 <^7heo> not procedural
2016-08-10 11:12:55 <kaiyou> Could anyone point me to the proper documentation to bump a package and push it for rebuild? (As far as I got, this would probably look like apkgrel -a then push to patchwork, but something does not seem right)
2016-08-10 11:20:56 <hrw> 14:40 root@pinkiepie-centos:$ rc-update add hwclock boot
2016-08-10 11:20:56 <hrw> Segmentation fault
2016-08-10 11:20:59 <hrw> hm.
2016-08-10 11:21:22 <^7heo> yeah it's easy to get segfaults with pax, I noticed.
2016-08-10 11:21:29 <^7heo> (not sure if it's related, but...)
2016-08-10 11:21:59 <hrw> ok, no /proc /sys /dev was issue
2016-08-10 11:23:48 <^7heo> ?
2016-08-10 11:24:08 <hrw> ^7heo: chrooted into alpine without mounting those
2016-08-10 11:24:14 <^7heo> ooh
2016-08-10 11:24:20 <^7heo> sure, that's important.
2016-08-10 11:24:47 <hrw> alpine assumes that everything needed to boot is built-in into kernel, right?
2016-08-10 11:24:54 <hrw> no initramfs
2016-08-10 11:25:16 <^7heo> mount -obind /dev ${mount}/dev; mount -t sys sys ${mount}/sys; mount -t proc procfs ${mount}/proc; chroot $mount /bin/sh
2016-08-10 11:25:21 <^7heo> oh wait
2016-08-10 11:25:40 <^7heo> mount -obind /dev ${mount}/dev; mount -obind /dev/pts ${mount}/dev/pts; mount -t sys sys ${mount}/sys; mount -t proc procfs ${mount}/proc; chroot $mount /bin/sh
2016-08-10 11:25:40 <hrw> ^7heo: 'run-chroot rootfs/' ;D
2016-08-10 11:25:45 <^7heo> meh
2016-08-10 11:26:00 <^7heo> run-chroot not found
2016-08-10 11:26:01 <hrw> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/405359/28354147/
2016-08-10 11:26:25 <^7heo> also
2016-08-10 11:26:32 <^7heo> I tend to re-generate sys and proc rather than bind them.
2016-08-10 11:26:40 <clandmeter> got to run, ttyl.
2016-08-10 11:52:35 <hrw> would be good to have getty started on serial line taken from console= argument of kernel
2016-08-10 11:52:44 <hrw>    OpenRC 0.21.2.a9f466c is starting up Linux 4.4.0-34-generic (aarch64)
2016-08-10 11:53:42 <hrw> http://pastebin.com/T2wDWuvM - alpine on aarch64 (using ubuntu kernel)
2016-08-10 11:55:30 <hrw> Welcome to Alpine Linux 3.4
2016-08-10 11:55:30 <hrw> Kernel 4.4.0-34-generic on an aarch64 (/dev/ttyAMA0)
2016-08-10 13:52:31 <clandmeter> hrw: i also have a uboot version available if you like
2016-08-10 13:53:59 <XeR> Has anyone ever managed (or tried) to boot the xen alpine iso since 3.4.0 ?
2016-08-10 13:59:51 <hrw> clandmeter: I do not care about uboot on aarch64
2016-08-10 14:00:12 <hrw> clandmeter: this VM boots uefi->grub->kernel->alpine
2016-08-10 14:00:47 <clandmeter> well its just an alpine release with kernel
2016-08-10 14:15:56 <Klowner> if I submit a pr for package contributions should they be in testing or community?
2016-08-10 14:46:24 <Klowner> bah, I need to learn how to deal with grsec
2016-08-10 15:01:26 <patently> does anyone know how to install php7 on alpine?
2016-08-10 15:14:19 <^7heo> patently: apk add php7@testing?
2016-08-10 15:16:28 <patently> doesn't work
2016-08-10 15:19:53 <TBB> how doesn't it work?
2016-08-10 15:20:46 <patently> The repository with the tag doesn't exist
2016-08-10 15:20:59 <Klowner> is there an easy way to list the contents of an apk file? (not installed)
2016-08-10 15:21:01 <TBB> repository basics: edit /etc/apk/repositories
2016-08-10 15:21:18 <Klowner> oh, it's a tarball
2016-08-10 15:21:24 <Klowner> disregard dumb question
2016-08-10 15:21:25 <^7heo> Klowner: pkgs.alpinelinux.org/content
2016-08-10 15:21:40 <^7heo> Klowner: pkgs.alpinelinux.org/contents
2016-08-10 15:21:44 <^7heo> sorry, missed the final s.
2016-08-10 15:22:07 <Klowner> thx ^7heo
2016-08-10 15:22:15 <^7heo> Klowner: sometimes you don't even waste your bandwith on that.
2016-08-10 18:21:04 <kl3> Has anyone tried building dtrace4linux under AL?
2016-08-10 18:31:39 <Klowner> any package maintainer people around? I have a few packages to add and was curious about the policy regarding getting them added, specifically if I should have separate pull requests for each package, where they should go (testing?)
2016-08-10 18:34:21 <_ikke_> (disclaimer: not a maintainer). Packages should be sent to the mailing list
2016-08-10 18:34:37 <_ikke_> Each package is a separate patch
2016-08-10 18:35:06 <Klowner> alrighty
2016-08-10 18:35:20 <Klowner> thanks _ikke_
2016-08-10 18:35:57 <TBB> wonder why not a separate staging repo from where stuff moves after review
2016-08-10 18:49:59 <tdtrask> Klowner: you should add to testing
2016-08-10 18:50:29 <tdtrask> once it is built, there is a maintainer, and someone confirms it works, it can move to community (or main)
2016-08-10 18:50:52 <tdtrask> also, patches should be submitted to alpine-aports mailing list, just to specify which list
2016-08-10 18:51:31 <_ikke_> tdtrask to the resque
2016-08-10 18:51:33 <Klowner> cool, so I throw myself in there as Contributor and send it over?
2016-08-10 18:52:16 <tdtrask> sure
2016-08-10 18:53:35 <tdtrask> Klowner: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Creating_patches
2016-08-10 18:54:23 <Klowner> perfect, thank you
2016-08-10 18:56:35 <clandmeter> Klowner: you can also create PR's on github per pkg
2016-08-10 18:57:17 <clandmeter> we have travis to verify your pkg.
2016-08-10 19:00:10 <tdtrask> clandmeter: might want to consider adding github to the documentation on the wiki https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Creating_an_Alpine_package
2016-08-10 19:01:50 <clandmeter> we should ask our document manager ;-)
2016-08-10 19:02:12 <_ikke_> haha
2016-08-10 19:09:19 <Klowner> ah, I am probably more comfortable that way
2016-08-10 19:10:24 <clandmeter> ok i kind of added it to the docs
2016-08-10 19:10:34 <clandmeter> although not very obvious
2016-08-10 19:10:41 <clandmeter> but its better then nothing
2016-08-10 19:19:49 <tdtrask> clandmeter: agreed on the 'better than nothing' :)
2016-08-10 19:20:26 <clandmeter> the docs dont really support multirepo as its writen now.
2016-08-10 19:20:37 <clandmeter> im planning to fix those
2016-08-10 19:21:03 <Klowner> yay, I've got blender and a plethora of dependencies
2016-08-10 19:21:11 <clandmeter> we should have general usage and dev docs in git.
2016-08-10 19:21:34 <tdtrask> well, for now we have the wiki
2016-08-10 19:21:40 <tdtrask> and we can point someone to the doc
2016-08-10 19:22:06 <tdtrask> 
ACTION doesn't like to say "use github" when it's not documented anywhere

2016-08-10 19:22:33 <tdtrask> and I don't use it, so I wouldn't want to document it
2016-08-10 19:22:59 <clandmeter> alpine is very irc centric, if you are not here, you miss most of the fun/info.
2016-08-10 19:24:11 <clandmeter> tdtrask: i think in your case github wont help that much.
2016-08-10 19:24:30 <clandmeter> of of your projects have only one contributor
2016-08-10 19:24:35 <clandmeter> most..
2016-08-10 19:25:35 <clandmeter> having docs in github could attract more users to contribute with PR's. and we have a better way to distribute them.
2016-08-10 19:25:55 <clandmeter> ie, convert them to man pages or other usefull formats.
2016-08-10 19:29:55 <clandmeter> the tarvis integration done by jirutka is also a nice addition of github (although this could also be done without github)
2016-08-10 19:54:45 <Klowner> hm, is it normal for packages to have a -dev and a -libs package and then essentially an empty main package?
2016-08-10 19:56:19 <_ikke_> No, that would not make sense
2016-08-10 19:56:32 <_ikke_> If it's just libs, I would not expect a -lib package
2016-08-10 19:56:58 <Klowner> k, looks like testing/ilmbase is doing that
2016-08-10 19:57:00 <_ikke_> Looking at other packages starting with lib*, they don't have -lib subpackages
2016-08-10 19:57:23 <Klowner> I went and made a libilmbase and then realized there was already an ilmbase, doh
2016-08-10 19:58:01 <_ikke_> ah ok
2016-08-10 19:59:26 <Klowner> lolidk
2016-08-10 20:04:52 <_ikke_> me neither
2016-08-10 20:05:09 <_ikke_> Would make sense to me to fix that package, just don't know how the rest would think about that
2016-08-10 20:10:01 <^7heo> travis is broken (for GCE images) since yesterday evening
2016-08-10 20:10:09 <^7heo> I dunno if this afects us
2016-08-10 20:10:11 <^7heo> affects*
2016-08-10 20:48:22 <Klowner> anyone know if it's possible to set a subpackage to be a dependency it's own main package?
2016-08-10 20:49:02 <_ikke_> I think building the package might cause a problem
2016-08-10 20:58:33 <Klowner> hm, builds fine, just doesn't pull the subpackage in when you install the main package unfortunately
2016-08-10 21:14:31 <Klowner> darn, I was hoping that would work. otherwise I have the same ~30MB of assets required by two packages
2016-08-10 21:17:30 <clandmeter> Klowner: sure thats possible, but do you need it explicitly? abuild will scan for deps and do it automatically when needed.
2016-08-10 21:18:41 <Klowner> clandmeter: it consists mostly of python scripts, I'm thinking those won't get detected
2016-08-10 21:18:56 <clandmeter> right
2016-08-10 21:19:33 <clandmeter> but why then make a subpkg if main pkg needs it anyway?
2016-08-10 21:20:26 <TBB> because some other package might only need to subpackage, for example various -libs packages
2016-08-10 21:20:33 <TBB> *the subpackage
2016-08-10 21:20:57 <Klowner> I might just be getting to fancy. But I'm trying to make both a blender and blender-headless package, they both depend on the same bunch of assets
2016-08-10 21:21:06 <konobi> hey all... anyone know how I can get libnuma.so.1 for alpine?
2016-08-10 21:21:38 <TBB> Klowner: good idea; some other distributions package Java that way because the headless and the gui version are practically just 20 small files apart from eachother
2016-08-10 21:22:15 <TBB> noticed that on CentOS 7 and went like "what, Java 8 update is a couple hundred KB, that can't be right, maybe my rsync broke halfway or something" :)
2016-08-10 21:22:22 <Klowner> hah
2016-08-10 21:22:32 <clandmeter> TBB: right, with libs that would be the case, I wonder if thats also the case with py files.
2016-08-10 21:22:43 <Klowner> hrm, I could have a blender package that just contains the assets, and then have blender-desktop and blender-headless each with the appropriate binary
2016-08-10 21:23:16 <Klowner> seems more intuitive to the user to install blender or blender-headless and have them automatically pull in blender-shared or something though :/
2016-08-10 21:23:52 <clandmeter> yes, you can do that just fine.
2016-08-10 21:24:02 <Klowner> oh, unless I can do pkgname shenanigans inside the subpackage functions
2016-08-10 21:24:58 <konobi> are there any percona packages kicking around anywhere?
2016-08-10 21:25:45 <Klowner> https://gist.github.com/c9d79c5544fe10c967f08cc056da298f there's the APKBUILD
2016-08-10 21:26:06 <Klowner> the depends="blender-shared" seems to do nothing, unfortunately
2016-08-10 21:26:54 <clandmeter> Klowner: are you building on stable or edge?
2016-08-10 21:27:04 <clandmeter> that looks like an old template
2016-08-10 21:27:09 <Klowner> hmmmmmm
2016-08-10 21:27:30 <clandmeter> prepare is now a default abuild function
2016-08-10 21:27:36 <clandmeter> no need to create it
2016-08-10 21:27:43 <clandmeter> and rename _builddir to builddir
2016-08-10 21:28:23 <Klowner> alrighty
2016-08-10 21:28:42 <TBB> good thing my work project hasn't moved that much forward yet; fixing templates doesn't sound like the kind of work I want to be doing much :)
2016-08-10 21:28:55 <clandmeter> and please use edge to submit patches
2016-08-10 21:29:05 <Klowner> weird, I thought I was using edge
2016-08-10 21:29:38 <clandmeter> well, i guess you used newapkbuild?
2016-08-10 21:29:46 <clandmeter> or did you copy it from antoher pkg?
2016-08-10 21:30:01 <Klowner> pretty sure I used newapkbuild
2016-08-10 21:30:03 <konobi> clandmeter: so, i'm trying to use percona binaries from their binary downloads... I've gotten all the glib and ssl related stuff already out of the way, but have no idea how to get a hold of "libnuma" for alpine to get this up and running
2016-08-10 21:30:10 <Klowner> buuut that was a couple days ago
2016-08-10 21:30:31 <clandmeter> konobi: binaries will not work on alpine
2016-08-10 21:30:38 <clandmeter> except if they are build with musl
2016-08-10 21:30:44 <clandmeter> which they most probably are not.
2016-08-10 21:31:12 <konobi> clandmeter: i have them working already on alpine, using glib packages
2016-08-10 21:31:20 <konobi> *glibc even
2016-08-10 21:31:43 <clandmeter> huh?
2016-08-10 21:32:21 <TBB> that's one way to solve compilation challenges :) depends="glibc" !
2016-08-10 21:32:29 <Klowner> I don't suppose there's a way to just re-do the packaging portion of abuild -a is there?
2016-08-10 21:33:19 <TBB> how do you mean redo?
2016-08-10 21:33:31 <clandmeter> without a rebiuld i guess
2016-08-10 21:33:35 <clandmeter> use ccache :)
2016-08-10 21:33:38 <Klowner> mainly run the portions of abuild without a full recompile
2016-08-10 21:33:46 <TBB> yes, it is possible
2016-08-10 21:33:47 <Klowner> oh yea, I haven't used ccache in forever
2016-08-10 21:34:16 <clandmeter> well that depends
2016-08-10 21:34:22 <TBB> and if I understand correctly... since APKBUILD is just a shell script that gets evaluated, you can even rewrite parts of abuild itself that way
2016-08-10 21:34:44 <clandmeter> sure you can
2016-08-10 21:35:03 <clandmeter> but if the package functions moves stuff from src dir, there is no way to get it back.
2016-08-10 21:38:08 <Klowner> yeah I'm on edge
2016-08-10 21:38:33 <clandmeter> then sudo apk -U upgrade to update your box
2016-08-10 21:39:28 <Klowner> all updated
2016-08-10 21:39:54 <clandmeter> weird
2016-08-10 21:40:03 <clandmeter> maybe its the cmake template thats old
2016-08-10 21:40:29 <Klowner> it all builds fine, it's just that the dependency seems to get ignored
2016-08-10 21:41:06 <Klowner> after I build and install the main apk, apk info -a blender only shows libraries under "depends on:"
2016-08-10 21:41:10 <clandmeter> yes its wrong
2016-08-10 21:41:23 <clandmeter> depends="blender-shared=$pkgrel-r$pkgver"
2016-08-10 21:41:36 <Klowner> drop the version?
2016-08-10 21:41:44 <clandmeter> you can, but you switches them
2016-08-10 21:41:48 <clandmeter> rel vs ver
2016-08-10 21:41:54 <Klowner> oh dangit
2016-08-10 21:41:59 <Klowner> thank you, sorry
2016-08-10 21:42:33 <clandmeter> and just remove the prepare, and rename the builddir
2016-08-10 21:42:43 <clandmeter> its cosmetics i know
2016-08-10 21:42:53 <Klowner> oh no, I will fix that
2016-08-10 21:43:02 <Klowner> I am a weirdo about cosmetics
2016-08-10 21:43:29 <Klowner> thank you for the help, rebuilding now
2016-08-10 21:44:07 <clandmeter> yw
2016-08-10 21:44:19 <clandmeter> now its time to visit my bed
2016-08-10 21:44:23 <clandmeter> gnite all
2016-08-10 21:44:33 <Klowner> enjoy your bed!
2016-08-10 21:44:39 <TBB> night
2016-08-10 21:48:00 <Klowner> yaaay, it works
2016-08-10 21:50:01 <konobi> clandmeter: https://github.com/sgerrand/alpine-pkg-glibc
2016-08-10 21:57:44 <minimalism> Does Alpine have efistub enabled in the kernel?
2016-08-10 22:01:52 <kl3> minimalism: `grep EFI_STUB /boot/config'
2016-08-10 22:02:08 <minimalism> kl3: I don't have an alpine installation.
2016-08-10 22:02:24 <kl3> minimalism: It should be enabled.
2016-08-10 22:02:51 <kl3> minimalism: Yup, it is.
2016-08-10 23:43:15 <Klowner> bah, travis is gonna throw hissyfits, all these package prs are dependent upon each other
2016-08-11 05:13:29 <konobi> is there a known way to get a custom domain pointed at the alpin cdn mirror?
2016-08-11 05:13:32 <konobi> *alpine
2016-08-11 07:40:27 <ScrumpyJack> c-name?
2016-08-11 07:53:08 <konobi> nope
2016-08-11 07:53:22 <^7heo> yes.
2016-08-11 07:53:28 <konobi> doesn't mean the http server, etc. will serve the mirror on that domain
2016-08-11 07:53:28 <^7heo> CNAME would work.
2016-08-11 07:53:52 <^7heo> konobi: actually, it depends on the server config.
2016-08-11 07:54:03 <^7heo> konobi: and most httpd have a fallback in case the domain isn't defined.
2016-08-11 07:54:23 <^7heo> konobi: and you have to explicitely serve a 404 or 403 if you want other domains not to be served via your server.
2016-08-11 07:54:45 <^7heo> konobi: otherwise you can point anything.tld to any server and you will get the default configured "virtual host".
2016-08-11 07:55:08 <^7heo> don't forget that HTTP is supposed to be able to work without "Host:" headers.
2016-08-11 07:58:17 <ScrumpyJack> point your c-name to the mirror fqdn
2016-08-11 07:58:52 <ScrumpyJack> if not, you could re-write your url on your server to AL mirror
2016-08-11 08:03:30 <ScrumpyJack> personnaly I'd use a tennis racket ;)
2016-08-11 08:47:41 <hrw> su: must be suid to work properly
2016-08-11 08:48:13 <hrw> hm. you do not use busybox 'those apps be suid, those not' feature?
2016-08-11 09:16:13 <^7heo> Some days, I look at software, and I feel like killing myself.
2016-08-11 09:16:22 <^7heo> The rest of the time, I look at people, and I don't feel better.
2016-08-11 09:24:54 <hrw> ;D
2016-08-11 10:01:47 <ppots> Hello I facing error while installing the latest alpine with the sys mode.
2016-08-11 10:21:21 <_ikke_> what error?
2016-08-11 10:50:38 <^7heo> _ikke_: Error: too much ppots.
2016-08-11 10:50:47 <^7heo> 
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2016-08-11 11:06:50 <franks2> Anyone here run ZFS with a grsec enabled kernel? Trying to find the documentation for it on the wiki, but there isnt any. I just wonder if its doable
2016-08-11 11:20:47 <ncopa> franks2: its doable
2016-08-11 11:20:55 <ncopa> $ grep zfs /proc/mounts
2016-08-11 11:20:55 <ncopa> data/lxc/containers/build-edge-aarch64 / zfs rw,relatime,xattr,noacl 0 0
2016-08-11 11:20:55 <ncopa> data/distfiles /var/cache/distfiles zfs rw,relatime,xattr,noacl 0 0
2016-08-11 11:21:10 <franks2> ncopa: straight forward-ish?
2016-08-11 11:21:21 <ncopa> dunno. it was not me who set it up
2016-08-11 11:21:41 <franks2> allright, I will try when i get my disks. I can probably add wiki docs too
2016-08-11 11:21:50 <ncopa> woudl be nice, thanks
2016-08-11 11:22:18 <ncopa> i think you might need run a kernel from edge for now
2016-08-11 11:22:51 <ncopa> clandmeter: what do you think about backporting zfs to 3.4-stable?
2016-08-11 11:24:37 <ncopa> franks2: i don't expect it to be that complicated to setup, but it is still considered experimental
2016-08-11 11:34:36 <clandmeter> ncopa: thats not with grsec
2016-08-11 11:35:25 <clandmeter> but yes we can backport it
2016-08-11 11:35:45 <clandmeter> im not sure when they will release 0.7
2016-08-11 11:35:56 <clandmeter> i think that would have native musl support in it.
2016-08-11 11:36:03 <ncopa> ok
2016-08-11 11:36:18 <ncopa> are we prepared to support it for another 1.5 years?
2016-08-11 11:36:20 <ncopa> or so
2016-08-11 11:36:26 <ncopa> i suppose we are
2016-08-11 11:36:30 <clandmeter> why not
2016-08-11 11:36:38 <clandmeter> seems to work okish
2016-08-11 11:37:09 <clandmeter> the only problem so far seems (e)udev
2016-08-11 11:37:18 <ncopa> hum
2016-08-11 11:37:24 <ncopa> you need udev?
2016-08-11 11:37:28 <clandmeter> but im not sure that also happens other then aarch64
2016-08-11 11:37:37 <clandmeter> technically you dont need it.
2016-08-11 11:38:20 <clandmeter> zfs team suggest to use dev-by-id
2016-08-11 11:38:21 <ncopa> i would like to test it myself but i dont have the resources atm :-(
2016-08-11 11:38:40 <clandmeter> and mdev does not support it.
2016-08-11 11:39:03 <clandmeter> i think udev has something called ata-id
2016-08-11 11:39:06 <clandmeter> or similar
2016-08-11 11:39:32 <clandmeter> and udev scripts will create the device names
2016-08-11 11:40:13 <clandmeter> zfs also ships a similar helper
2016-08-11 11:40:32 <clandmeter> but to add symlinks to zdX but named based.
2016-08-11 13:26:43 <hrw> clandmeter: mdev can run scripts too
2016-08-11 13:26:51 <hrw> at least it could in past
2016-08-11 13:27:18 <clandmeter> hrw: yes, it shouldnt be that hard to let mdev do it.
2016-08-11 13:27:34 <clandmeter> but then again, you need to find somebody to spend time on it :)
2016-08-11 13:27:38 <clandmeter> that much harder.
2016-08-11 13:28:04 <TBB> perhaps you guys should consider Alpine BSD
2016-08-11 13:28:06 <TBB> 
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2016-08-11 13:30:49 <hrw> clandmeter: http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded/tree/recipes/busybox/files/mdev.conf?h=master
2016-08-11 13:32:21 <hrw> clandmeter: http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded/tree/recipes/busybox/files/find-touchscreen.sh?h=master
2016-08-11 13:34:10 <clandmeter> hrw: im well aware of mdev.conf
2016-08-11 13:34:18 <hrw> ok
2016-08-11 13:34:54 <clandmeter> 15:16 -!- robogoat [~robogoat@163.172.136.88] has joined #alpine-linux
2016-08-11 13:34:58 <clandmeter> oops
2016-08-11 13:35:11 <clandmeter> hrw: https://github.com/slashbeast/mdev-like-a-boss
2016-08-11 13:36:36 <clandmeter> the issue is to glue it all together.
2016-08-11 13:37:07 <clandmeter> for instance split out the udev stuff from zfs and make it compatible with mdev.
2016-08-11 14:17:35 <Death_Syn> Anyone tried to roll Alpine onto GCE yet?  Wanting to see if someone's done it already before I begin trying to do itmyself
2016-08-11 14:23:44 <Death_Syn> barring further input, i'm going to try to build one based on this: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Install_Alpine_on_Amazon_EC2
2016-08-11 18:24:54 <dodofxp> Hi everyone!
2016-08-11 18:26:05 <gopar> \o/
2016-08-11 18:27:07 <dodofxp> I tried a kinda fake-chroot install onto a USB stick to get a normal sys-like install and I feel like I am really close
2016-08-11 18:27:15 <dodofxp> The extra gotcha ist that I am booting from EFI
2016-08-11 18:27:35 <dodofxp> Right now I get an error when booting the device, saying that it could not mount /sysroot
2016-08-11 18:27:51 <dodofxp> just doing mount /dev/sda2 /sysroot fails with the same error
2016-08-11 18:28:24 <dodofxp> but doing mount -t ext2 /dev/sda2 /sysroot works . Hitting 'exit' afterwards sends me into a 'ash' shell in Alpine
2016-08-11 18:29:05 <dodofxp> What do I have to put in /boot/loader/entries/grsec.conf to tell gummiboot (?) or syslinux (?) to use ext2 when mounting my root partition?
2016-08-11 18:35:43 <Klowner> that feeling when you realize you've been fiddling with APKBUILDs for 3 days
2016-08-11 18:51:09 <Klowner> definitely something weirdo happening with the boost packages during linking
2016-08-11 18:51:28 <Klowner> do all packages get rebuilt when there's a new gcc?
2016-08-11 19:14:53 <StarWarsFan> hi@all
2016-08-11 19:15:16 <StarWarsFan> any hints regarding utf8-encoded filenames on alpine-linux?
2016-08-11 19:15:29 <StarWarsFan> just trying to checkout a subversion repo, which has such files on it
2016-08-11 19:15:34 <StarWarsFan> and that fails
2016-08-11 19:15:35 <StarWarsFan> :-(
2016-08-11 19:15:51 <Klowner> using utf8 locales?
2016-08-11 19:16:25 <StarWarsFan> how can i check that?
2016-08-11 19:18:17 <Klowner> hmmm, good question
2016-08-11 19:18:31 <^7heo> yeah
2016-08-11 19:18:39 <^7heo> people sometimes say it's down to environment variables
2016-08-11 19:19:28 <Klowner> there are lots of closed tickets regarding locale questions
2016-08-11 19:19:55 <^7heo> yeah
2016-08-11 19:20:42 <^7heo> https://github.com/tmux/tmux/pull/464
2016-08-11 19:20:48 <^7heo> see that to do it programatically
2016-08-11 19:21:22 <^7heo> getenv("LC_ALL"); will get your ENV variables
2016-08-11 19:21:36 <^7heo> nl_langinfo(CODESET); will get the langinfo
2016-08-11 19:35:19 <StarWarsFan> programatically is useless in that case
2016-08-11 19:35:33 <StarWarsFan> i need to do a simple svn checkout
2016-08-11 19:35:46 <Klowner> what's the error you're getting?
2016-08-11 19:36:22 <StarWarsFan> svn: E155009: Failed to run the WC DB work queue associated with '/home/yves/fli4l/branches/4.0/trunk/bin/x86/usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla', work item 32573 (file-install 103 bin/x86/usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/TURKTRUST_Elektronik_Sertifika_Hizmet_Saglay{U+0131}c{U+0131}s{U+0131}_H6.crt 1 0 1 1)
2016-08-11 19:36:22 <StarWarsFan> svn: E000022: Safe data '/home/yves/fli4l/branches/4.0/trunk/bin/x86/usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/T' was followed by non-ASCII byte 195: unable to convert to/from UTF-8
2016-08-11 19:38:22 <Klowner> try export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 ?
2016-08-11 19:38:31 <StarWarsFan> makes no difference
2016-08-11 19:38:48 <StarWarsFan> already tested...
2016-08-11 19:39:50 <StarWarsFan> got this on my .zshrc
2016-08-11 19:39:51 <StarWarsFan> http://sprunge.us/bdQf
2016-08-11 19:40:06 <StarWarsFan> just for testing
2016-08-11 19:40:11 <StarWarsFan> but makes no difference
2016-08-11 19:40:25 <Klowner> it's not a public svn repo is it? I could try checking it out
2016-08-11 19:40:32 <StarWarsFan> sure, this one:
2016-08-11 19:41:03 <StarWarsFan> just a second, need to search the public url...
2016-08-11 19:42:28 <StarWarsFan> https://ssl.nettworks.org/svn/fli4l/branches/4.0/trunk/
2016-08-11 19:44:18 <^7heo> StarWarsFan: it isn't a locale problem, I think
2016-08-11 19:44:22 <^7heo> StarWarsFan: unable to
2016-08-11 19:44:27 <^7heo> convert to/from UTF-8
2016-08-11 19:44:31 <^7heo> StarWarsFan: unable to convert to/from UTF-8
2016-08-11 19:44:32 <^7heo> even
2016-08-11 19:44:41 <Klowner> checking out now
2016-08-11 19:44:50 <^7heo> it means that it ALREADY knows about UTF-8
2016-08-11 19:45:01 <^7heo> the problem is about the conversion.
2016-08-11 19:45:08 <Klowner> filesystem issue maybe?
2016-08-11 19:45:31 <Klowner> StarWarsFan: what kind of filesystem are you checking it out to?
2016-08-11 19:45:42 <StarWarsFan> hm, is it possible that the checkout works with https:// but not with svn+ssh://?
2016-08-11 19:45:49 <StarWarsFan> seems that the https-checkout works
2016-08-11 19:46:00 <StarWarsFan> as it is already checking out here on my system
2016-08-11 19:46:03 <Klowner> weird
2016-08-11 19:46:12 <StarWarsFan> the svn+ssh-checkout breaks after some seconds...
2016-08-11 19:46:43 <dminca> hllo
2016-08-11 19:46:59 <StarWarsFan> Klowner: /dev/sda3 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
2016-08-11 19:47:06 <dminca> is Alpine Linux a fork of Debian ?
2016-08-11 19:47:31 <dminca> someone told me that and I refused to believe that
2016-08-11 19:47:35 <dminca> :P
2016-08-11 19:48:16 <Klowner> dminca: it is not
2016-08-11 19:48:53 <StarWarsFan> bam, checkout failed
2016-08-11 19:49:05 <StarWarsFan> so the same problem on svn+ssh:// and on https://
2016-08-11 19:49:16 <StarWarsFan> :-(
2016-08-11 19:50:10 <Klowner> mine is still going
2016-08-11 19:50:23 <StarWarsFan> yeah, took a while
2016-08-11 19:50:25 <StarWarsFan> big repo...
2016-08-11 19:50:26 <Klowner> 1.3GB so far
2016-08-11 19:50:36 <StarWarsFan> it failed on
2016-08-11 19:50:47 <StarWarsFan> A    trunk/bin/x86_64/usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/CA_WoSign_ECC_Root.crt
2016-08-11 19:50:47 <StarWarsFan> A    trunk/bin/x86_64/usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/AffirmTrust_Premium_ECC.crt
2016-08-11 19:50:47 <StarWarsFan> A    trunk/bin/x86_64/usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Root_CA_Generalitat_Valenciana.crt
2016-08-11 19:50:47 <StarWarsFan> A    trunk/bin/x86_64/usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Atos_TrustedRoot_2011.crt
2016-08-11 19:50:47 <StarWarsFan> A    trunk/bin/x86_64/usr/share/gdb/auto-load/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0.4800.1-gdb.py
2016-08-11 19:50:50 <StarWarsFan> A    trunk/bin/x86_64/usr/share/gdb/auto-load/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0.4800.1-gdb.py
2016-08-11 19:50:52 <StarWarsFan> svn: E155009: Failed to run the WC DB work queue associated with '/home/yves/fli4l/trunk/bin/x86_64/usr/share/gdb/auto-load/usr/lib', work item 30899 (file-install 106 bin/x86_64/usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/TURKTRUST_Elektronik_Sertifika_Hizmet_Saglay{U+0131}c{U+0131}s{U+0131}_H6.crt 1 0 1 1)
2016-08-11 19:50:52 <Klowner> oh there it died
2016-08-11 19:50:54 <StarWarsFan> svn: E000022: Safe data '/home/yves/fli4l/trunk/bin/x86_64/usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/T' was followed by non-ASCII byte 195: unable to convert to/from UTF-8
2016-08-11 19:51:31 <dminca> Klowner what hard evidence can I show him ?
2016-08-11 19:52:06 <Klowner> dminca: the wikipedia page? also there's like, nothing about alpine that suggests it's a fork of debian
2016-08-11 19:52:37 <Klowner> StarWarsFan: I'll try on my arch box
2016-08-11 19:52:45 <StarWarsFan> ok
2016-08-11 19:53:09 <Death_Syn> the only debian-like thing I see in alpine is the network config
2016-08-11 19:54:15 <dminca> Alpine Linux is an independent, non-commercial, general purpose Linux distribution designed for power users who appreciate security, simplicity and resource efficiency
2016-08-11 19:54:20 <dminca> wise words
2016-08-11 19:54:26 <Klowner> between musl, openrc, and apk.. definitely not debian-like :D
2016-08-11 19:54:34 <StarWarsFan> :-D
2016-08-11 19:54:59 <dminca> who founded Alpine Linux ?
2016-08-11 19:55:45 <dminca> no one founded it. Alpine Linux is a community
2016-08-11 19:56:00 <_ikke_> dminca: https://osdir.com/ml/linux.leaf.devel/2005-08/msg00039.html
2016-08-11 19:59:59 <dminca> thank you _ikke_ for sending me to the Source
2016-08-11 20:00:07 <Klowner> StarWarsFan: 1.7GB, still going
2016-08-11 20:00:22 <StarWarsFan> ok
2016-08-11 20:01:47 <dodofxp> What is "the right way" to sys-install Alpine onto a USB stick that needs to boot from EFI?
2016-08-11 20:05:10 <Klowner> 3.2GB, seems to be making it further along
2016-08-11 20:10:03 <Klowner> hrrrm, I wonder if it's a weirdo musl problem?
2016-08-11 20:14:13 <StarWarsFan> Klowner: did you mean my svn issue?
2016-08-11 20:14:22 <Klowner> StarWarsFan: yea
2016-08-11 20:14:46 <StarWarsFan> hm, there is no "locale" on alpine, right?
2016-08-11 20:14:55 <StarWarsFan> or on which package is it hidden?
2016-08-11 20:15:10 <Klowner> not that I'm aware of, I'm somewhat new to alpine though
2016-08-11 20:18:41 <StarWarsFan> so to shorten the test, use this url
2016-08-11 20:18:43 <StarWarsFan> svn checkout https://ssl.nettworks.org/svn/fli4l/branches/4.0/trunk/bin/x86_64/usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla
2016-08-11 20:18:56 <StarWarsFan> this will fail quite fast... ;-)
2016-08-11 20:19:23 <StarWarsFan> i think to ask the question again on #alpine-devel
2016-08-11 20:20:06 <Klowner> ya
2016-08-12 11:10:51 <sameera88_> hi i have created alpine 3.3 docker container and i have installed meteor then i try to run meteor it says like this "  /var/www/.meteor/meteor: line 135: /var/www/.meteor/packages/meteor-tool/.1.4.0-1.13j49n2++os.linux.x86_64+web.browser+web.cordova/mt-os.linux.x86_64/dev_bundle/bin/node: No such file or directory"
2016-08-12 11:12:50 <ncopa> does that file exist?
2016-08-12 11:19:46 <sameera88_> @ <@ncopa> yes file exist
2016-08-12 11:22:18 <sameera88_> yes "/var/www/.meteor/packages/meteor-tool/1.4.0-1"   1.4.0-1 is symlink with " .1.4.0-1.13j49n2++os.linux.x86_64+web.browser+web.cordova"
2016-08-12 11:24:28 <ncopa> can you try:  ldd  /var/www/.meteor/packages/meteor-tool/.1.4.0-1.13j49n2++os.linux.x86_64+web.browser+web.cordova/mt-os.linux.x86_64/dev_bundle/bin/node
2016-08-12 11:26:13 <ncopa> if its a precompiled binary for linux, then its likely built against gnu libc
2016-08-12 11:26:45 <ncopa> so it needs to be built with musl libc
2016-08-12 12:04:39 <sameera88_> hi <@ncopa> can you explain little bit please
2016-08-12 12:43:14 <ncopa> sameera88_: i guess that the way you installed meteor was by finding some fimary on the internet and copied that in to a docker container
2016-08-12 12:43:27 <ncopa> but i am just guessing since you dont explain how you installed it
2016-08-12 12:43:57 <ncopa> i also guess that this binary you found is a binary for linux that someone made and put on the internet
2016-08-12 12:44:43 <ncopa> i also guess that the way they built the binary was by using a traditional linux, like redhat, centos or ubuntu build environment, that had gnu libc installed
2016-08-12 12:44:51 <ncopa> so the resulting binary was linked with gnu libc
2016-08-12 12:45:02 <ncopa> alpine linux uses musl libc
2016-08-12 12:45:21 <ncopa> so the binary you got is not compatible with musl libc
2016-08-12 12:45:28 <ncopa> not compatible with alpine linux
2016-08-12 12:45:49 <ncopa> to make it work you need a binary built for musl libc instead of gnu libc
2016-08-12 12:46:10 <ncopa> we normally build those our selves and provide those as .apk files
2016-08-12 12:46:20 <ncopa> which you can install with apk add
2016-08-12 12:47:05 <sameera88_> <@ncopa> OK so is there any build apk for meteor
2016-08-12 12:47:15 <ncopa> not that i know
2016-08-12 12:47:22 <ncopa> i dont even know what meteor is
2016-08-12 12:47:26 <ncopa> so i will have to google that
2016-08-12 12:47:42 <sameera88_> so how can build something
2016-08-12 12:48:35 <ncopa> seems like its "Meteor Development Group Inc." who provides it
2016-08-12 12:48:38 <ncopa> maybe ask them?
2016-08-12 12:49:07 <sameera88_> OK <@ncopa> thank you verymuch
2016-08-12 12:50:36 <ncopa> maybe ask here: https://forums.meteor.com/
2016-08-12 12:51:25 <ncopa> sameera88_: someone else tried: https://forums.meteor.com/t/docker-replace-ubuntu-for-alpine-linux-or-other/7453
2016-08-12 12:52:19 <ncopa> also reported here: https://github.com/meteor/meteor/issues/4573
2016-08-12 12:54:23 <sameera88_> ncopa thank you soo much
2016-08-12 15:15:28 <TBB> so I wrote this installer
2016-08-12 15:15:57 <TBB> it installs Alpine, snapshots it, then installs Alpine and places the snapshot to it so it can install Alpine
2016-08-12 15:16:28 <TBB> I think all I've got is a hammer
2016-08-12 15:21:38 <_ikke_> Yo Dawg!
2016-08-12 15:22:03 <TBB> indeed :D now I can Alpine while I Alpine
2016-08-12 16:47:41 <sw> I am working on the edge repository. But I cannot install 'sambda-dc' because it only exists in 'main'. Is this intentional? Do I have to add the main repositories as well, or is this package missing in the 'edge' repository?
2016-08-12 16:48:22 <Haegin> Howdy, I'm trying to get statsite compiling in Alpine Linux in a docker container. It's the first time I've used Alpine so I might be running into some fairly novice issues, but `./configure` is failing. https://gist.github.com/Haegin/d0be925aff7eeb4446bcddad29973bca is the Dockerfile and the output I'm getting. It's not finding linux/version.h but there are some warnings before then.
2016-08-12 16:51:10 <_ikke_> sw: main exists *inside* edge
2016-08-12 16:51:17 <_ikke_> http://dl-3.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/
2016-08-12 16:52:58 <_ikke_> Haegin: You need the linux-*-dev package installe
2016-08-12 16:53:00 <_ikke_> installed
2016-08-12 16:53:06 <sw> _ikke_: Then why do I get ERROR: unsatisfiable constraints: samba-dc (missing)?
2016-08-12 16:53:08 <_ikke_> probably linux-grsec-dev
2016-08-12 16:53:19 <Haegin> Aha, thanks _ikke_
2016-08-12 16:54:50 <_ikke_> sw: samba-dc is divided in lots of subpackages
2016-08-12 16:54:53 <_ikke_> http://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/v3.3/main/x86_64/samba-dc
2016-08-12 16:58:05 <_ikke_> looks like samba-dc is one of the subpackages, but I don't know why it's not in the repo
2016-08-12 16:58:57 <sw> _ikke_: Ok, but at least I'm not mistaken. So it _should_ be there, right?
2016-08-12 16:59:25 <_ikke_> sw: I'm not certain, but the APKBUILD file seems to indicate it should: http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/aports/tree/main/samba/APKBUILD?id=8c3dbd899b5d63ad9b297061811c24b56c1f2f3f\
2016-08-12 17:08:41 <orion> Hi. Can apk's package signing process be disabled for the installation of just one package?
2016-08-12 17:10:14 <TBB> --allow-untrusted might do the trick
2016-08-12 17:10:30 <TBB> if you mean installing and ignoring signature
2016-08-12 17:21:14 <TBB> hmm hmm, I'm running into one problem I thought I solved already
2016-08-12 17:21:51 <TBB> mounting /sysroot fails but it does later work from the emergency shell
2016-08-12 17:22:44 <orion> mitchty: Hey there. Did you ever solve that PIC problem with GHC?
2016-08-12 17:34:53 <mitchty> orion: solve? sorta, but more by avoiding the problem https://github.com/mitchty/aports/blob/ghc/testing/ghc/APKBUILD#L88 and https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/9007
2016-08-12 17:35:32 <mitchty> long story short ghc needs to be able to detect PIE/PIC, until then that hack is the only way for things to work on al
2016-08-12 17:39:41 <mitchty> otherwise ghc will throw text segments into things like shared libraries
2016-08-12 17:39:52 <mitchty> iirc, been a while now :)
2016-08-12 17:42:26 <orion> It's a shame that the alpine guys are dragging their feet.
2016-08-12 17:42:53 <mitchty> on what? if anything i've not really been that persistent/active in getting things pushed up
2016-08-12 17:43:56 <mitchty> currently that branch just needs to be a pr and then ghc will be in the testing repos
2016-08-12 17:43:56 <orion> Is there anything I can do to help?
2016-08-12 17:44:21 <mitchty> atm everythings pretty much ready to go, was going to submit a PR for the last 3 apkbuilds tonight after work
2016-08-12 17:44:48 <mitchty> i was validating the ghc-bootstrap apk that is in testing builds x86_64 and armhf ghc's etc...
2016-08-12 17:45:22 <orion> I appreciate all the time/effort you're putting in to this.
2016-08-12 17:45:46 <mitchty> and once thats there, this gets in place which is 40% of why i ported ghc https://github.com/mitchty/alpine-linux-ghc-bootstrap/blob/upstream-next/8.0/idris/APKBUILD
2016-08-12 17:46:21 <mitchty> the other 60% is pandoc
2016-08-12 17:46:41 <mitchty> i don't really use haskell a ton but i like challenges :)
2016-08-12 17:55:30 <orion> I use haskell recreationally.
2016-08-12 17:56:32 <orion> I am sort of an evangelical about it.
2016-08-12 18:09:53 <mitchty> its a fine language to be honest, was fun throwing 3000 requests a second at it to see a toy servant app run as fast as nginx does on its own returning 404's to /
2016-08-12 18:36:47 <mitchty> beats any toy flask stuff i've written (i normally deal with c/kernel stuff so any userspace to me is easy since i have a debugger)
2016-08-12 18:51:40 <Diftraku> any opinions on go?
2016-08-12 18:52:12 <TBB> I'm just about to
2016-08-12 18:52:21 <TBB> 10 pm and still at work :/
2016-08-12 18:53:05 <TBB> seriously tho, haven't done anything with go yet but it seems okay; had a long struggle to decide between rust and go but chose the latter as my next language to learn
2016-08-12 19:13:00 <^7heo> it is impossible to package
2016-08-12 19:13:16 <^7heo> please write your software in another lang
2016-08-12 19:37:13 <orion> Go is impossible to package?
2016-08-12 19:37:25 <orion> Rather, applications written in Go are impossible to package?
2016-08-12 19:37:31 <orion> TBB: Why did you choose Go over Rust?
2016-08-12 19:39:18 <orion> mitchty: In your APKBUILD for llvm-3.7, you have this command: patch --ignore-whitespace -s -p1 -N -i "$srcdir"/$i
2016-08-12 19:39:42 <orion> But, --ignore-whitespace doesn't seem to be available in the version of patch included with BusyBox.
2016-08-12 19:40:09 <orion> Neither does -s.
2016-08-12 19:40:19 <orion> Where does that version of patch come from?
2016-08-12 19:43:42 <mitchty> i thought abuild uses gnu patch which does have those
2016-08-12 19:44:25 <orion> Ah, interesting.
2016-08-12 19:45:49 <mitchty> in either case, that can be ignored now, any future work is here https://github.com/alpinelinux/aports/tree/master/testing/llvm3.7
2016-08-12 19:47:50 <mitchty> and if you want to test against the testing repos versions, what I used to validate what i'll pr tonight https://github.com/mitchty/alpine-linux-ghc-bootstrap/compare/upstream-next
2016-08-12 19:48:05 <mitchty> i can push up apks built off that if anyone really wants but i don't see much point
2016-08-13 12:27:15 <sw> I try to setup my wlan stick. But I'm stuck right at the beginning "iw dev" gives me "nl80211 not found." What am I doing wrong?
2016-08-13 12:31:42 <_ikke_> Looks like you're missing a module
2016-08-13 12:46:40 <sw> _ikke_: Good hint. But why do I get "modprobe: can't change directory to '/lib/modules': No such file or directory"?
2016-08-13 13:02:41 <zotherstupidguy>     required by: world[ices2=2.0.2-r0]
2016-08-13 13:03:16 <sw> ok ... I guess there was something wrong with my installation. There where errors during startup
2016-08-13 13:03:22 <zotherstupidguy> i can't install ices2, even that i found the pkgs https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/packages?name=ices2&branch=&repo=&arch=&maintainer=
2016-08-13 13:04:29 <sw> zotherstupidguy: Do you have edge/testing in your repositories?
2016-08-13 13:06:03 <zotherstupidguy> no, 3.4
2016-08-13 13:06:19 <zotherstupidguy> but i want to use it in production!! is there a way to avoid edge?
2016-08-13 13:07:53 <_ikke_> zotherstupidguy: Test the package and report results to the maintained
2016-08-13 13:08:03 <_ikke_> they can move it to main or community then
2016-08-13 13:09:43 <zotherstupidguy> _ikke_ shall do
2016-08-13 13:09:46 <zotherstupidguy> thanks
2016-08-13 13:13:28 <zotherstupidguy> _ikke_ ERROR: unsatisfiable constraints:
2016-08-13 13:13:30 <zotherstupidguy>   ices2 (missing):
2016-08-13 13:13:32 <zotherstupidguy>     required by: world[ices2]
2016-08-13 13:13:48 <zotherstupidguy> is there somthing i can do to fix that error?
2016-08-13 13:14:03 <_ikke_> Add the edge/testing repository
2016-08-13 13:14:19 <zotherstupidguy> i actually dockerized it from edge
2016-08-13 13:14:39 <zotherstupidguy> so i don't need to add the edge/testing repostiroy, correct?
2016-08-13 13:14:40 <_ikke_> You still need the testing repo, not main
2016-08-13 13:14:46 <zotherstupidguy> okay
2016-08-13 13:14:51 <zotherstupidguy> how to do that?
2016-08-13 13:14:58 <_ikke_> easiest is to add a pinned repo
2016-08-13 13:15:21 <_ikke_> @testing http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/testing
2016-08-13 13:15:32 <_ikke_> add something like that to /etc/apk/repositories
2016-08-13 13:15:54 <_ikke_> then you can do apk update && apk add ices2@testing
2016-08-13 13:29:42 <zotherstupidguy> _ikke_ as i have to do this form Dockerfile, is it possible to make installing from testing repos the default?
2016-08-13 13:30:15 <_ikke_> By changing the /etc/apk/repository file
2016-08-13 13:30:25 <_ikke_> Or you need to create a image that has that set up
2016-08-13 13:31:59 <zotherstupidguy> base image got echo command?
2016-08-13 13:32:13 <_ikke_> echo is a shell built-in
2016-08-13 13:32:19 <zotherstupidguy> thnx ;)
2016-08-13 14:10:39 <zotherstupidguy> _ikke_ ERROR: Not committing changes due to missing repository tags. Use --force to override.
2016-08-13 14:11:00 <zotherstupidguy> what does it mean missing repository tags??
2016-08-13 14:20:35 <_ikke_> zotherstupidguy: apparently the tags werent fetched in the repository?
2016-08-13 14:20:47 <_ikke_> Oh, this is docker?
2016-08-13 14:52:52 <zotherstupidguy> yes
2016-08-13 14:53:08 <zotherstupidguy> _ikke_ does it make any diff?
2016-08-13 15:02:10 <_ikke_> Yes to what?
2016-08-13 15:06:34 <zotherstupidguy> yes it is docker
2016-08-13 15:07:02 <zotherstupidguy> i am trying to install the package from inside a Dockerfile
2016-08-13 16:40:20 <jomat> Does anyone here has experience with kexec? I'm wondering if booting alpine from a CD and using kexec for kernel updates would work
2016-08-13 16:43:09 <TBB> that's something I should be experimenting with soon
2016-08-13 17:25:43 <krobin> TBB: jomat: keep us posted :)
2016-08-13 19:00:17 <Tavixvi> Does anyone know how alpine finds the cache and overlay for the stateless boots? Cause if I have alpine on a thumb drive and on my hard drive, the thumbdrive finds the HDD's config and boots it instead of the thumbdrive's
2016-08-13 19:00:45 <Tavixvi> Couldn't find any documentation on it.
2016-08-13 20:19:41 <teapot> hey all, can I use alpine linux as a base for a general *nix-styl workstation for coding/development and a bit of GIMPing?
2016-08-13 20:20:03 <^7heo> yes.
2016-08-13 20:21:16 <teapot> is it a good fit - or will i run into roadblocks. I'm returning to GNU/Linux ater a long time away. In my day it was all Configure/make/make install and systemd scare the pants off me...
2016-08-13 20:22:52 <teapot> all the major distro's seem to have become HUGE. Gigabytes of pointless binaries etc. etc. there must be a better way, which is how I found your project.
2016-08-13 20:23:16 <jomat> I use alpine since 3 years on my laptop
2016-08-13 20:23:47 <teapot> fair enough - i guess i should just give it a go :)
2016-08-13 20:23:56 <jomat> sometimes it's handy to have a debian chroot
2016-08-13 20:24:48 <jomat> hm, but i think i use the chroot only for humble-bundle against glibc compiled games :-D
2016-08-13 20:25:09 <teapot> will something like a SecondLife viewer compile.... given that the project uses MUSL. I'm assuming that there's pretty good glibc <-> MUSL compatibility...
2016-08-13 20:26:48 <teapot> sorry or asking all these newbie things.... I got a bit lazy... best I do my own due diligence on the web. Thanks for your time :)
2016-08-13 20:28:50 <jomat> there's an automatically generated compability list: http://wiki.musl-libc.org/wiki/Pkgsrc_results
2016-08-13 20:29:08 <jomat> but sl isn't on it… best you give it a try :-)
2016-08-13 20:29:36 <jomat> sometimes it's just a trivial patch needed to get something compile with musl
2016-08-13 20:30:32 <jomat> ah well, games/sl is on the list and marked as not compiling
2016-08-13 20:30:38 <jomat> dunno if its second life
2016-08-13 20:33:25 <teapot> prolly it is. my other option is go the gentoo route, of do a LFS system of my own. been 15 years since I did that last... LOL
2016-08-13 20:33:33 <teapot> *or
2016-08-13 20:34:26 <jomat> yeah, or use alpine and run sl in a gentoo/lfs/whatever chroot :-D
2016-08-13 20:37:52 <teapot> i'll ust read up on the web and bang my head on the deps lists (if I can find them). they seem to have gone out of fashion these days, with so much being taken care of by package managers.
2016-08-13 20:39:13 <teapot> take care all - tahnks again fo you time
2016-08-14 02:00:11 <ammunta> games/sl isn't steam locomotive? :((
2016-08-14 04:28:03 <Somasis> jomat: don't trust that list, it's very outdated
2016-08-14 04:28:49 <Somasis> http://wiki.musl-libc.org/index.php?title=Pkgsrc_results&action=history
2016-08-14 18:07:00 <Mo0O> hi
2016-08-14 18:07:28 <Mo0O> I've trying to make a fresh install from v3.4, but setup-disk return the following error:
2016-08-14 18:07:38 <Mo0O> ERROR: unsatisfiable constraints:
2016-08-14 18:07:41 <Mo0O>   linux-rescue (missing):
2016-08-14 18:07:43 <Mo0O>     required by: world[linux-rescue]
2016-08-14 18:08:11 <Mo0O> do you know what can I do to have linux-rescue available?
2016-08-14 18:08:47 <_ikke_> That package doesn't seem to exist :S
2016-08-14 18:09:17 <Mo0O> that's what I see when I'm diging in all available repos
2016-08-14 18:09:46 <Mo0O> strange that setup-disk wants to install it
2016-08-14 18:10:08 <Mo0O> I don't understand
2016-08-14 18:10:14 <_ikke_> me neitehr
2016-08-14 18:10:18 <_ikke_> neither
2016-08-14 18:24:22 <Mo0O> I guess it's related to the fact that I'm in a chroot in a rescue mode
2016-08-14 20:28:59 <orion> What version of musl does alpine edge use?
2016-08-14 20:47:29 <_ikke_> 1.1.15
2016-08-14 20:47:35 <_ikke_> http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/aports/tree/main/musl/APKBUILD#n4
2016-08-14 21:01:12 <orion> Thank you.
2016-08-14 22:36:51 <talk2junior-ubun> Hello Room
2016-08-14 22:37:37 <talk2junior-ubun> Which is a good distro to learn Linux on for beginners?
2016-08-14 22:38:45 <talk2junior-ubun> In school for computer programming now and seeking advice on which Linux to learn. It was recommended to me that I learn Linux, particularly server commands. Suggestions or recommends?
2016-08-15 11:37:05 <teapot_> hey all, i was installing alpine last ight... and after I got xfce up and running.... i couldn'y find a package for a webbrowser anywhere for 3.4.3
2016-08-15 11:37:15 <teapot_> what am i missing?
2016-08-15 11:51:12 <TBB> a repository or two?
2016-08-15 14:00:41 <Haegin> I've got a program (statsite) running in a docker contained but it errors with `streaming: applet not found`. I'm nearly sure that's something that's calling out to busybox and not finding the streaming command, but I'm not sure where it's doing this. Does anyone have any idea what I might be missing?
2016-08-15 20:40:31 <dalias> ncopa, one problem i've hit several times: upgrading gui apps like firefox breaking large parts of the gui app ecosystem
2016-08-15 20:41:14 <dalias> because of dependencies like gtk+3.0 depending on "so:libglib-2.0.so.0" rather than the actual package version it's linked against
2016-08-15 20:42:16 <dalias> that fail to refelect dependencies on new symbols added in some particular version
2016-08-15 20:42:35 <ncopa> huh?
2016-08-15 20:42:52 <ncopa> right
2016-08-15 20:43:59 <ncopa> technically we should be do depend=so:libglib-2.0.so.0>=$version
2016-08-15 20:44:18 <ncopa> where version is the required package version
2016-08-15 20:44:33 <ncopa> we could in theory keep track of all the symbols in the libs
2016-08-15 20:44:45 <ncopa> and store in a db in what version new symbols were added
2016-08-15 20:45:00 <ncopa> and then from that db calculate the exact required library version
2016-08-15 20:45:05 <dalias> :)
2016-08-15 20:45:39 <ncopa> if you had issue with firefox a few minutes ago
2016-08-15 20:45:43 <ncopa> like this: http://tpaste.us/AvdZ
2016-08-15 20:45:44 <dalias> i've also hit cases i don't understand where apk add -u foo fails to update foo
2016-08-15 20:45:50 <dalias> and i have to use 'foo>x' to update it
2016-08-15 20:46:01 <dalias> despite not having any current pinning in world
2016-08-15 20:46:04 <ncopa> something else is holding it back
2016-08-15 20:46:13 <dalias> bbiab
2016-08-15 20:55:54 <przemoc> http://abi-laboratory.pro/tracker/  can be useful for some quick (manual) checks
2016-08-15 20:56:19 <przemoc> regarding symbols
2016-08-15 21:17:17 <tiaz> Hello. Is there any provision for autoinstalls/preseed files?
2016-08-15 21:17:52 <tiaz> if not, is it planned?
2016-08-15 21:18:11 <tiaz> or is that a question for alpine-devel
2016-08-16 20:30:20 <ivan> any tips for getting > 1024x768 screen resolution in an alpine linux guest in virtualbox?
2016-08-16 20:30:53 <ivan> xrandr doesn't list any higher modes and I've tried modesetting, vmware, vesa (at least, installed, not sure if they were used)
2016-08-16 21:22:11 <ivan> https://gist.github.com/ivan/71b11634620821659cec3dca345f8183 I think I'm doing it wrong but I don't know any other way to get the linux sources for virtualbox
2016-08-16 21:23:34 <ivan> not sure if it would work without DISABLE_PAX_PLUGINS=y because I don't see a package for gcc plugins
2016-08-17 07:39:32 <nikolaosk> 23:45 <@ncopa> if you had issue with firefox a few minutes ago, like this: http://tpaste.us/Avd
2016-08-17 07:41:41 <nikolaosk> I do have this problem, I upgraded libpng to 1.6.24 and can't can't start firefox
2016-08-17 07:42:37 <nikolaosk> but after this was reverted in the repos, I apk refuses to downgrade libpng
2016-08-17 07:43:22 <ScrumpyJack> does anyone have notes on converting a squashfs rpi install to a disk install? I did it once with help from clandmeter but i didn't take notes
2016-08-17 07:45:05 <nikolaosk> it only says (1/1) [APK unavailable, skipped] Reinstalling libpng (1.6.24-r0)
2016-08-17 09:36:29 <nikolaosk> anybody know how to tell apk to reinstall a package whose version was downgraded?
2016-08-17 09:36:37 <nikolaosk> http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/aports/commit/?id=a3062e784ca6bdd38e058f7daf2c03f876c7152f
2016-08-17 09:37:05 <nikolaosk> I can't get it back to 1.6.23
2016-08-17 09:37:59 <clandmeter> nikolaosk: you can install it if you dl it and specify it.
2016-08-17 09:39:16 <nikolaosk> thanks, that did the trick
2016-08-17 09:39:36 <clandmeter> but it will be recorded in world
2016-08-17 09:39:53 <clandmeter> and i think it will not be upgraded from repo
2016-08-17 09:40:07 <nikolaosk> I'll add it again from the repo then
2016-08-17 09:40:17 <clandmeter> but if its a dep of another package, i think you can remove it from world.
2016-08-17 09:40:19 <nikolaosk> the problem was uninstalling 1.6.24
2016-08-17 09:40:24 <clandmeter> but be carefull if you manually modifiy world.
2016-08-17 11:14:28 <s0l__> im not able to install virtualbox. since xf86-video-virtualbox does not exist means its not available?
2016-08-17 11:14:33 <s0l__> w
2016-08-17 11:23:48 <TBB> you mean install virtualbox to an alpine box or install alpine on a virtualbox vm?
2016-08-18 03:21:59 <tavixvi> Alright, I asked this a few days ago, but I couldn't get my client to stay connected, so I'll try again.
2016-08-18 03:22:36 <tavixvi> Does anyone know how alpine manages to find the configs/lbu for the stateless boots?
2016-08-18 03:23:05 <tavixvi> because I can boot off a thumbdrive and it'll find configs/caches on my harddrive
2016-08-18 10:56:19 <miggyb> Hey everyone, is there any way to remove the 3 second delay before booting Alpine? I'm using it in a VM, I think it should be safe to remove things waiting for real hardware (if that's the reason for the delay)
2016-08-18 11:02:19 <fabled> miggyb, the reason is to have time for user-interaction to change kernel boot parameters, or kernel image to boot
2016-08-18 11:02:42 <fabled> on hard disk installs you can edit /etc/update-extlinux.conf
2016-08-18 11:03:20 <miggyb> fabled: Oh, that makes sense too. I'll look at that file, thanks!
2016-08-18 11:08:23 <miggyb> fabled: Doesn't seem to be working. At least setting 'timeout' to 0, 1, or 10 seconds didn't make any difference. Do I need to commit/bake the changes somewhere?
2016-08-18 11:08:40 <fabled> run update-extlinux
2016-08-18 11:09:06 <miggyb> Ah, yup, that was it. Thanks!
2016-08-18 11:12:10 <miggyb> and it looks like 1 second is the minimum, setting it to 0 means having to select what to boot manually
2016-08-18 12:15:47 <ScrumpyJack> miggyb: there is a way to remove the menu altogether
2016-08-18 12:17:27 <ScrumpyJack> have a look at http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Menu
2016-08-18 12:17:45 <ScrumpyJack> it's either menu disable to menu hidden or something like that
2016-08-18 12:20:42 <miggyb> ScrumpyJack: oh cool, will look at this too. Thanks!
2016-08-18 13:31:52 <chris2> i envy your new aarch64 box :P
2016-08-18 14:07:22 <ScrumpyJack> chris2: i just bought a cheap PINE A64 for a bit of AL dev, that might meet your needs
2016-08-18 14:18:33 <chris2> have one
2016-08-18 14:18:39 <chris2> prefer odroid c2 tho
2016-08-18 14:33:01 <ScrumpyJack> just looking at their site, their product range is confusing
2016-08-18 14:33:20 <ScrumpyJack> what about the XU4?
2016-08-18 14:34:17 <ScrumpyJack> relatively expensive perhaps. £78
2016-08-18 14:49:28 <CasperVector> Hello channel, I found that after a fresh install of opensmtpd (either v3.4 or edge), the permission of /var/spool/mail is set to 0777.  Seems to be a result of incorrect umask when running pre-install?
2016-08-18 16:54:46 <scv> sweet
2016-08-18 16:55:01 <scv> got galera and updated mariadb packages finally building and functioning
2016-08-18 19:22:23 <manjaro-kde5> hi I'm run latest alpine to x86_64 and ppp module don't load?
2016-08-18 19:24:14 <eugo> look in dmesg: "dmesg | grep -i ppp"
2016-08-18 19:25:12 <manjaro-kde5> nothing in dmesg
2016-08-18 19:25:41 <clandmeter> define dont load
2016-08-18 19:27:22 <manjaro-kde5> I don't have ppp module and I have ppp and rp-pppoe installed
2016-08-18 19:28:48 <manjaro-kde5> I don't have ppp modules on /lib/modules/
2016-08-18 19:29:10 <eugo> alpine uses systemd, right? try journalctl
2016-08-18 19:30:28 <danieli> openrc
2016-08-18 19:31:32 <eugo> oh sorry, haven't used alpine for a while
2016-08-18 19:32:26 <danieli> :)
2016-08-18 19:32:40 <eugo> does that mean alpine doesn't have udev?
2016-08-18 19:33:07 <clandmeter> no
2016-08-18 19:33:13 <clandmeter> i means we dont use it by default
2016-08-18 19:33:28 <clandmeter> and we dont have systemd
2016-08-18 19:33:48 <eugo> that sounds great, i need to try it again soon
2016-08-18 19:34:10 <clandmeter> we try to prevent these kind of things to be pulled into our system
2016-08-18 19:34:42 <eugo> i can share a systemd "horror" story if you don't mind
2016-08-18 19:35:31 <danieli> I have way enough systemd horror stories
2016-08-18 19:35:43 <jcmartins> wich module in need load to pppoe in /etc/modules.conf
2016-08-18 19:35:44 <clandmeter> danieli: is there a ppp module at all?
2016-08-18 19:35:46 <danieli> never liked systemd much, especially considering how large and clunky it is compared to what it was meant to replace
2016-08-18 19:36:15 <eugo> i went to my university to print out a document, i have arch installed on my laptop, and cups to interface with the uni printers, but i had disabled cups some time ago, so i was trying to enable the cups service again, but "systemctl start cupsd" didn't work and didn't even give an error message
2016-08-18 19:36:27 <danieli> as well as it being shoved down my throat as a dependency
2016-08-18 19:36:32 <clandmeter> it does not fit in our modular world.
2016-08-18 19:36:53 <eugo> i left in frustration and went home to look at the arch wiki, it turns out i have to use "systemctl start org.cups.cupsd.service" to start it....... just.. WHY?
2016-08-18 19:37:20 <danieli> the service names give me give me java flashbacks
2016-08-18 19:37:21 <danieli> ptsd much
2016-08-18 19:37:29 <danieli> brb food
2016-08-18 19:38:06 <eugo> how could i possibly have known what the unit name was called... with init scripts i could just use "service start cupsd"  and it would have worked
2016-08-18 19:41:29 <jcmartins> modprobe ppp  don't found ppp in /lib/modules
2016-08-18 19:42:39 <eugo> jcmartins: i'm not an expert, but maybe this will help locating the module. try "find / -iname ppp"
2016-08-18 19:42:59 <eugo> with sudo, btw
2016-08-18 19:50:35 <jcmartins> find / -iname ppp
2016-08-18 19:50:36 <jcmartins> /dev/ppp
2016-08-18 19:50:38 <jcmartins> /usr/share/acf/app/ppp
2016-08-18 19:50:39 <jcmartins> /var/log/ppp
2016-08-18 19:50:41 <jcmartins> /etc/ppp
2016-08-18 19:51:06 <clandmeter> jcmartins: i dont think there is a ppp module at all.
2016-08-18 19:52:30 <eugo> maybe it's built into the kernel
2016-08-18 19:53:11 <eugo> have you read the ppp manpage or the arch wiki pppd article?
2016-08-18 19:56:13 <jcmartins> yes
2016-08-18 19:59:28 <eugo> do you have proprietary or open source video driver? maybe an issue with them
2016-08-18 20:00:37 <eugo> sorry, wrong channel, doh
2016-08-18 20:03:20 <jcmartins> how can I see if kernel is compiled with PPPoE support ?
2016-08-18 20:04:52 <eugo> hmm
2016-08-18 20:06:37 <eugo> you're trying to connect to your ISP with pppoe, correct?
2016-08-18 20:10:22 <eugo> do you have the package ppp-pppoe installed? see https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/v3.4/main/x86_64/ppp-pppoe
2016-08-18 20:10:50 <jcmartins> yes I have this package
2016-08-18 20:10:59 <eugo> see https://ppp.samba.org/examples.html
2016-08-18 20:12:11 <jcmartins> pppd
2016-08-18 20:12:13 <jcmartins> Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No such device or address
2016-08-18 20:12:14 <jcmartins> pppd: Please load the ppp_generic kernel module.
2016-08-18 20:12:38 <jcmartins> ls -la /dev/ppp
2016-08-18 20:12:40 <jcmartins> crw-r--r--    1 root     root      108,   0 Aug 18 19:14 /dev/ppp
2016-08-18 20:13:43 <eugo> have you created a peer in /etc/ppp/peers/ like the example mentions?
2016-08-18 20:14:28 <eugo> the man page can probably tell you more about the configuration required
2016-08-18 20:14:56 <eugo> also try modprobe ppp_generic
2016-08-18 20:16:10 <eugo> the package ppp-pppoe installs a file called /usr/lib/pppd/2.4.7/rp-pppoe.so (click "content of the package" on https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/v3.4/main/x86_64/ppp-pppoe )
2016-08-18 20:17:22 <eugo> more info: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO/index.html
2016-08-18 20:17:49 <eugo> warning, its from 2000
2016-08-18 20:47:39 <jcmartins> I'm try this how to https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Using_serial_modem
2016-08-19 04:29:24 <kimbarly> hello
2016-08-19 04:29:39 <kimbarly> i want to run alpine linux behind an authenticated proxy
2016-08-19 04:30:03 <kimbarly> i have tried setting the env http_proxy and https_proxy to http://username:password@proxy.url to no avail
2016-08-19 04:30:20 <kimbarly> apk update yields permission denied (which comes from the proxy)
2016-08-19 04:41:39 <_ikke_> kimbarly: there is a setup-proxy script
2016-08-19 04:41:41 <_ikke_> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_setup_scripts#setup-proxy
2016-08-19 04:48:46 <kimbarly> _ikke_: i can see the problem now, my docker alpine has no setup scripts
2016-08-19 04:49:20 <_ikke_> I think that's somewhat intentional
2016-08-19 04:49:37 <_ikke_> http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/alpine-conf/tree/setup-proxy.in
2016-08-19 04:50:57 <_ikke_> Main thing it does is export three env variables to /etc/profile.d/proxy.sh
2016-08-19 04:52:33 <_ikke_> But if your proxy says access denied, it means the proxy is being used
2016-08-19 05:31:41 <kimbarly> sorry got a split
2016-08-19 09:35:13 <hackingnerd> conntrack -L is working and conntrack -E is not working
2016-08-19 09:45:46 <hackingnerd> ?
2016-08-19 10:01:56 <hackingnerd> exit
2016-08-19 14:20:06 <TBB> just a quick question: can a package be re-signed later?
2016-08-19 14:26:12 <TBB> seems abuild-sign can handle it... the Alpine Way strikes again
2016-08-19 14:52:36 <scv> is that where you ask and then figure it out on your own
2016-08-19 14:52:50 <TBB> t it is :)
2016-08-19 14:53:08 <TBB> hm. touchpad killed the start of that sentence. that's exactly what it is.
2016-08-19 15:39:07 <_ikke_> Rubber Ducking it's called
2016-08-19 15:40:02 <_ikke_> So only the index is signed?
2016-08-19 17:21:12 <Guest_94857> allah is doing
2016-08-19 17:21:16 <HazWard> I was wondering what is the use cases for Alpine?
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2016-08-19 17:22:12 <Lord> ...
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2016-08-19 17:24:29 <Guest_94857> you can not get married without the permission of allah
2016-08-19 17:24:33 <scv> lol
2016-08-19 17:24:59 <scv> what the hell
2016-08-19 17:25:07 <scv> what kind of spam is this
2016-08-19 17:25:48 <Guest_94857> nobody can get angry at you without the permission of allah
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2016-08-19 17:27:00 <Guest_94857> america is not doing allah is doing
2016-08-19 17:27:26 <Guest_94857> fire can not burn without the permission of allah