2014-05-01 03:59:22 when i run apk search openjdk, openjdk6 is listed though 7 is listed as a package on the site 2014-05-01 03:59:41 there any specific repos that have 7 avail? 2014-05-01 04:00:21 did you try apk update? 2014-05-01 04:00:29 several times 2014-05-01 04:00:37 even after running setup-apkrepos and adding other repos 2014-05-01 04:00:51 is openjdk7 listed as edge or testing perhaps 2014-05-01 04:00:56 main 2014-05-01 04:01:03 April 17 2014 2014-05-01 04:01:10 build date, that is 2014-05-01 04:01:13 edge/main or 2.7/main? 2014-05-01 04:01:23 fair question.... 2014-05-01 04:02:16 it doesnt specify, just says main as its repository 2014-05-01 04:02:22 its dependent on musl 2014-05-01 04:02:27 that only in edge? 2014-05-01 04:02:32 that would be edge yes 2014-05-01 04:02:50 gotcha 2014-05-01 04:03:03 i must say though, i am really digging alpine 2014-05-01 04:03:40 it is a pretty cool distro. edge is obviously not good for production computers but you could maybe spin up a VM to play with it : 2014-05-01 04:04:09 yeah ive got an image taken of where i wanted it 2014-05-01 04:04:16 so ill add edge/main and give it a whirl 2014-05-01 04:04:29 do you know how long packages stay in edge generally? 2014-05-01 04:06:46 edge is for the next release 2014-05-01 04:06:53 so that is i.e. 3.0 2014-05-01 04:07:06 when 3.0 is released, edge will become 3.1 2014-05-01 04:07:23 so there wont be a 2.8 then? 2014-05-01 04:07:39 also upgrading from 2.7 to 3.0 is not just add repo and upgrade, you have to do a few things 2014-05-01 04:07:42 give me a sec 2014-05-01 04:08:54 http://kaniini.dereferenced.org/2014/03/23/upgrading-to-alpine-musl.html 2014-05-01 04:09:14 wherever it says "edge-musl" replace with simply "edge" for the URLs 2014-05-01 04:10:51 oh that's pretty awesome 2014-05-01 04:11:20 so how often is this channel surveyed? 2014-05-01 04:11:43 me being very new to alpine, i'll probably have loads of stupid questions to ask once i back myself into a corner 2014-05-01 04:12:07 hehe, the channel is kind of active. there is a lot of good stuff in the wiki 2014-05-01 04:12:19 I highly recommend reading up on the wiki, you will learn a lot :) 2014-05-01 04:12:24 thats where ive been picking up all of what i can do so far 2014-05-01 04:12:43 yeah good on you, you should be okay 2014-05-01 04:13:09 i come from an rhel background, and i dread moving to systemd 2014-05-01 04:13:21 which is how i found alpine, openrc is pretty cool 2014-05-01 04:14:55 all right, thanks for the hints 2014-05-01 04:14:59 im sure ill be back 2014-05-01 04:15:01 later 2014-05-01 10:46:33 hi 2014-05-01 10:46:47 i have still problems with my ipv6 interface 2014-05-01 10:47:02 I have "iface vmbr0 inet static" and "iface vmbr0 inet6 static" 2014-05-01 10:47:19 If I restart networking, it says, device "vmbr0" can not be found 2014-05-01 10:47:28 it's because inet already removed it... 2014-05-01 10:47:35 and inet6 want to remove it too 2014-05-01 10:47:46 are there any suggestions? 2014-05-01 22:26:18 can the iso be loop booted from a drive with grub? 2014-05-02 03:20:21 is edge missing a firefox build or is it just me? 2014-05-02 03:38:26 point is I want to install alpine-desktop but firefox is a requirement (that's not included) is there an option to ignore certain packages? 2014-05-02 03:46:59 ok I will downgrade for now gn8 2014-05-02 03:47:27 thomas_sch: let me check 2014-05-02 03:47:34 firefox-29.0-r0 2014-05-02 03:48:07 yeah that should be the newest version, but I can't seem to find it in any repo 2014-05-02 03:48:21 I recommend setting /etc/apk/repositories to the following if running edge: 2014-05-02 03:48:22 http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/main 2014-05-02 03:48:22 @edge-uclibc http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge-uclibc/main 2014-05-02 03:48:57 This ensure that your base system gets edge-musl as they are newer packages, but you can cherry pick from edge-uclibc if necessary, or if packages don't exist in edge-musl 2014-05-02 03:49:29 ahh so right now using uclibc packages as fallback is the preferred way?thank you 2014-05-02 04:20:54 thomas_sch: not the preferred way, that's just my way 2014-05-02 04:21:26 I believe the preferred way is to setup an apk build environment, build the package that doesn't exist yet, and then submit it for inclusion 2014-05-02 04:24:52 duck1: that's what I first wanted to do, but since I'm working in a virtual enviroment right now and only have limited processing powers I didn't really want to compile something as big as firefox 2014-05-02 04:27:12 but hey seems to work fine so everything's well since the next big upgrade will probably make the extra line obsolete 2014-05-02 04:39:26 duck1: btw will this really install uclibc as well? 2014-05-02 05:33:17 anyway I downgraded to 2.7 again 2014-05-02 07:36:18 duck1 does musl not remove uclibc from system? 2014-05-02 07:37:18 regarding that @edge-uclibc repor to cherry 2014-05-02 08:35:32 duck1: i dunno if mixing musl and uclibc is a good idea 2014-05-02 12:29:51 I wonder how alpine would run on a new Macbook, anyone try? 2014-05-02 12:33:08 I suppose the biggest problem will be with chipset/network/display drivers 2014-05-02 20:26:34 hi 2014-05-02 20:26:39 is there a ipv6 dhcp config? 2014-05-02 20:26:47 iface eth0 inet6 dhcp does not work :( 2014-05-03 21:44:13 morning 2014-05-03 21:44:35 ncopa: since your patch for vmlinuz name versioning, alpine-iso make fails 2014-05-03 21:44:47 dunno if that repo is missing a patch somehow 2014-05-03 21:45:10 but the build scripts are trying to symlink against vmlinuz-grsec (which isn't there) 2014-05-03 21:45:52 probably because the symlink gets created by vmlinuz-grsec itself and the Makefile just tar xzvf's the apkovl (probably leaving some trigger for the symlink out) 2014-05-03 21:46:04 -apkovl+apk 2014-05-03 22:07:24 ncopa: it works, but I agree its not advisable to run a mixed edge musl + uclibc. 2014-05-03 22:08:41 crow: upgrading to musl removes uclibc, however if you install dependencies, it will pull back in the necessary libs to get it working. that's what I did with edge-musl + edge-uclibc where everything is edge-musl except for LXC which won't run for me from musl, so I run the uclibc branch to get that. 2014-05-03 22:08:50 both are jealous of each other and will crash the system if you don't use them as much as the other 2014-05-03 22:22:03 duck1: musl will give us some other good stuff for exchange 2014-05-03 22:22:22 sorry 2014-05-03 22:22:36 that's not what you were asking lol 2014-05-03 22:22:38 i should go to bed 2014-05-03 23:02:58 fbettag: I like musl 2014-05-04 07:47:14 so alpine linux does not ship a working dhclient; it is missing /sbin/dhclient-script to actually set the IP and set up the parameters using the lease 2014-05-04 07:48:11 is there a different way I am supposed to set up DHCP on an alpine machine? a different program I am supposed to use? 2014-05-04 08:25:09 I copied the one from debian in, it works well 2014-05-04 10:38:18 TheWilfox: you tried udhcpd which ships by default? 2014-05-04 10:38:26 =) 2014-05-04 10:38:39 I ended up using that yes 2014-05-04 10:38:52 good then 2014-05-04 10:39:00 I didn't know it was there when I started this adventure 2014-05-04 10:39:07 works very well and less dependencies :) 2014-05-04 10:39:14 rather no deps :) 2014-05-04 14:08:23 0. 2014-05-04 14:59:18 1. 2014-05-04 14:59:23 ;-) 2014-05-04 15:05:16 that was a coffee spill that almost went into the kb 2014-05-04 18:19:17 localhost:~# last 2014-05-04 18:19:17 couldn't open file '/dev/null/wtmp': Not a directory 2014-05-04 18:19:17 wtmp begins Thu Jan 1 00:00 2014-05-04 18:19:18 o.O 2014-05-04 18:25:59 compromised.. 2014-05-04 18:26:29 I just installed this half an hour ago 2014-05-04 18:29:16 2.7.6 mini iso, upgraded to musl edge 2014-05-04 18:31:18 i'm still on 2.7.5, it won't upgrade 2014-05-04 18:32:27 I had huge problems upgrading to musl edge at first 2014-05-04 18:32:31 it wouldn't boot 2014-05-04 18:32:51 so I had to do a clean install with an iso and then upgrade immediately after 2014-05-04 19:30:01 Mp5shooter: wtmp its a know issue, probably caused by musl 2014-05-04 19:30:07 its on the tracker. 2014-05-04 19:30:12 oh ok 2014-05-04 23:12:53 Alpine seems to be using Lua 5.1 based on the mvc example on the wiki. Is this correct? 2014-05-05 00:29:26 Neffi: on my 2.7 box I have lua 5.1.5 2014-05-05 00:41:31 I have found a small reproduceable bug in the udhcpc script in alpine 2014-05-05 00:41:43 it does not set broadcast addr on a new lease 2014-05-05 01:05:56 the bugs.alpinelinux.org SSL certificate expired 25 April just fyi 2014-05-05 06:11:14 fbettag: I assume you build iso with v2.7 repos? 2014-05-05 06:13:35 I suppose this change broke it for you: http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/alpine-iso/commit/?id=f1ee5e23ccac029f0382cf66f6d2b389fe74e2f8 2014-05-05 06:14:36 i think we should branch 2.7-stable in alpine-iso 2014-05-05 08:23:04 ncopa: i fixed a few more things 2014-05-05 08:23:13 ncopa: for example img creation was super weird 2014-05-05 08:23:20 didnt include syslinux folder and apks 2014-05-05 08:23:35 (because mcopy was missing -s) 2014-05-05 08:24:05 but it's my birthday today, i might not be doing that much today ;) 2014-05-05 08:28:11 happy birthday :) 2014-05-05 12:29:11 fbettag happy birthday :) 2014-05-05 12:31:57 oh! fbettag: congrats! 2014-05-06 03:55:18 fetch http://dl-2.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v2.7/main/x86_64/APKINDEX.tar.gz 2014-05-06 03:55:26 WARNING: Ignorning APKINDEX.cfc83ca2.tar.gz: BAD signature 2014-05-06 03:55:32 OK: 16 distinct packages available 2014-05-06 03:55:43 ACTION takes a big sigh. loooooooovely. 2014-05-06 03:56:21 ACTION makes TheWilfox arf with snuggles 2014-05-06 03:56:31 ACTION petpets Diftraku and arfs 2014-05-06 03:58:14 fetch http://dl-3.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v2.7/main/x86_64/APKINDEX.tar.gz 2014-05-06 03:58:23 WARNING: Ignorning APKINDEX.9bca125c.tar.gz: BAD signature 2014-05-06 03:58:30 what is up with these mirrors lately 2014-05-06 04:03:32 I'm just trying to use the xen iso provided on the downloads page 2014-05-06 04:03:53 every single mirror I've tried (4 of the 12) has a bad signature -.- 2014-05-06 04:13:24 what's even more fun is that the mtools apk included on the alpine-xen-2.7.6-x86_64.iso disc appears to be corrupted, it is throwing a bus error when 'apk add xen' is run (mtools is a dep of xen) 2014-05-06 05:26:57 it appears that the above issues were all caused by having < 1 GB RAM in the server 2014-05-06 05:27:03 thought 768 would be enough 2014-05-06 05:27:17 apk does not like low memory it seem 2014-05-06 07:15:42 TheWilfox: re #2880 2014-05-06 07:15:59 could you please test the diff i posted there? 2014-05-06 07:16:03 i think it should work 2014-05-06 08:31:04 ACTION hides under TheWilfox, has to do an inventory of a DC 2014-05-06 08:38:49 ncopa, will test ASAP. sorry that our mail server is a sack of poo. 2014-05-06 08:41:55 it doesnt break things when there are no broadcast 2014-05-06 08:42:12 if you make a test run I'll include it in v2.7.7 2014-05-06 08:43:16 ah I just have new 2.7 box to test with :) 2014-05-06 08:43:21 works great on edge 2014-05-06 08:43:24 let me try 2.7 2014-05-06 08:43:56 if busybox-initscript-2.2-r18 works for you then its ok 2014-05-06 08:44:08 i'll just cherry-pick the change to v2.7 2014-05-06 08:47:48 ncopa: it works! 2014-05-06 08:47:57 confirmed the diff works on 2.7 and edge 2014-05-06 08:48:01 with and without broadcast 2014-05-06 08:48:37 I have to say this, all distro have bugs, but alpine is on my list with freebsd as only ones who have a nice helpful community and actually respond/care about bugs :) 2014-05-06 08:48:39 good morning 2014-05-06 08:49:17 also Diftraku that sounds like fun :) 2014-05-06 08:49:25 hi there febttag how are you today 2014-05-06 08:49:40 oops fbettag* keyboard gets away from me 2014-05-06 08:54:09 TheWilfox: great! 2014-05-06 08:54:15 thanks for taking time report and test it 2014-05-06 08:54:42 definitely, is a great experience contributing to alpine 2014-05-06 08:58:08 this was a low-haning fruit so it was simple 2014-05-06 08:58:33 i feel we have room for improve in the bugfixing... 2014-05-06 09:44:08 ACTION slaps TheWilfox around 2014-05-06 09:44:28 ouch! 2014-05-06 10:18:06 TheWilfox: we're out on it with me and another specialist 2014-05-06 10:18:21 done 4-5 rows now, 116 items 2014-05-07 20:05:02 hej da. 2014-05-07 20:05:17 stable is still using ulibc isn´t it ? 2014-05-07 20:06:23 mirac yes it is 2014-05-07 20:06:54 crow: thx 2014-05-07 20:07:40 mirac if you need something from edge, there is edge-ulibc repo 2014-05-07 20:08:08 erm. edge-uclibc 2014-05-07 20:09:39 interessting 2014-05-07 20:10:12 i´ve seen some "armhf" repo... ist it for arm... and which kind of? 2014-05-07 20:15:32 i think custom build for rpi 2014-05-07 20:15:45 but i am not sure 2014-05-07 20:16:18 crow: rpi would be nice. will this become offical with the rlease of 3.0 2014-05-07 20:16:51 3.0 will be with musl isn´t it? 2014-05-07 20:39:23 yes 3.0 is going to be musl, but i am not sure if there will be official relase for arm/rpi 2014-05-07 23:41:54 is it /usr/share/doc where -doc packages go? 2014-05-08 00:52:29 Has anyone run debootstrap successfully on alpine? 2014-05-08 00:56:34 staufinc: yes, but not recently 2014-05-08 00:56:53 about 6 months ago I did, and it worked fine, though as I recall you need the real tar package and not busybox 2014-05-08 00:57:43 I get an error in dmesg saying grsec: use of CAP_SYS_ADMIN in chroot denied for ... mount 2014-05-08 00:58:05 and I believe i unset the deny mount and deny chmod in grsecurity 2014-05-08 00:58:34 staufinc: you'll need to disable some grsec settings to get debootstrap to work 2014-05-08 00:58:44 I strongly recommend you consider using lxc instead of debootstrap if you can 2014-05-08 01:02:05 so if I install debian inside a linux container, will I be able to run an xorg server as if it were on the main os? 2014-05-08 01:19:19 if I understand it correctly, the linux container shares the hardware with the other containers. so in my debian container I could start up debian's xorg and it will display on my monitors as if it were native? 2014-05-08 01:53:49 staufinc: Technically you can do that, but you'll need to setup the lxc container to have r/w permissions to the appropriate hardware devices to be able to start the X server. Don't forget that there's dri hardware so that you can get OpenGL acceleration. 2014-05-08 01:54:15 I recommend using alpine to run the X server, and then running clients from within the LXC environments that throw the client displays to the alpine X server. 2014-05-08 01:54:42 staufinc: appologies for delays in my responses, I just started watching game of thrones, its addicting 2014-05-08 02:08:23 it's cool. thanks! 2014-05-08 05:23:16 Mp5shooter: non man/info doc goes to /usr/share/doc/$pkgname 2014-05-09 13:26:46 hello guys 2014-05-09 13:26:58 let's say i would like to compile stuff on alpine 2014-05-09 13:27:19 can i do that on system or do i need to crosscompile somehow on external linux box? 2014-05-09 13:30:27 you can compile on alpine 2014-05-09 13:30:35 apk add build-base 2014-05-09 13:30:53 should give you libc headers gcc and ghu make 2014-05-09 13:30:56 gnu* 2014-05-09 13:45:03 ncopa: hmm and for example i seeing there is nginx binary and it depends on musl 2014-05-09 13:45:29 ncopa: will the default toolchain produce things linked to gnu libc or musl? 2014-05-09 13:46:12 musl 2014-05-09 13:46:27 if you compile on alpine it will run on alpine 2014-05-09 13:48:26 ncopa: okay so that means if i am attempting to build from source, it might asplode in ways, i know nothing about how to fix them 2014-05-09 13:48:36 ncopa: got it 2014-05-09 13:48:46 ncopa: last thing is building in vm okay? 2014-05-09 13:48:55 ncopa: let's say vmware 2014-05-10 00:50:26 Mem: 155104K used, 352816K free, 0K shrd, 130922906616376K buff, 32K cached 2014-05-10 00:50:41 that buffer size. daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang. 2014-05-10 16:00:35 any plans on packaging hhvm for alpine? 2014-05-10 16:01:23 ACTION rawrs at TheWilfox 2014-05-10 20:14:01 has anyone used tmux on musl edge? 2014-05-10 20:14:05 doesn't seem to be working 2014-05-10 20:21:55 mm 2014-05-10 20:21:56 works as root 2014-05-10 20:21:58 but not as other users 2014-05-11 09:55:54 Mp5shooter: tmux works fine here as non-root on edge 2014-05-11 09:56:04 Mp5shooter: what's not working? 2014-05-11 13:26:57 uggedal, when i type tmux, nothing happens 2014-05-11 13:27:19 can't create new windows/sessions 2014-05-11 13:38:11 uggedal: http://puu.sh/8HzG5.txt 2014-05-11 13:38:16 ACTION shrugs 2014-05-11 14:05:23 Mp5shooter: what's the output of `stat -c%a /dev/null`? 2014-05-11 14:05:51 2755 2014-05-11 14:07:40 that's your problem, /dev/null is not writable 2014-05-11 14:08:17 o 2014-05-11 14:08:37 weird 2014-05-11 14:08:39 oidentd owns it 2014-05-11 14:08:39 lol 2014-05-11 14:08:47 I wonder how that happened 2014-05-11 14:09:03 no idea... 2014-05-11 14:10:22 and now it works 2014-05-11 14:10:26 thanks a lot 2014-05-11 14:10:39 that was weird lol 2014-05-11 20:28:45 hahah! Good evening all! 2014-05-11 20:29:35 So, Am i one of those conspriacy nutters or is the whole SSL/TLS certicate thing just dogy as hell? 2014-05-11 20:30:03 (Also I have drunk too much vodka) 2014-05-11 20:32:04 I mean, you can't use ssl compression because of some attack, you can't use non PFS ciphers because of some attack and you coan't use non-RC4 ciphers (many block ciphers) because of some other attack and you can't use anything other than RC4 because of a different attack 2014-05-11 20:34:27 And the SSL trust thing is broken anyway because you trust some other 'authority' (and let's face it we know how good 'authority' is) says someone is who they say they are and doesn't get hacked (ahem, comodo) and they know what they are doing etc....this is alot of if's and but's...why not let the end user simply decide? 2014-05-11 20:35:10 A self signed cert is as good as any other....can we trust the browser coder to trust only valid cert authorities? 2014-05-11 20:35:27 is there a reason armhf isn't supported with musl? 2014-05-11 20:36:04 and not screw up? (srcew ups happen, even NASA screwed up their DNSSEC deployment) 2014-05-11 20:36:40 @nwmcsween I believe it's coming, have patience sir/madam 2014-05-11 20:42:43 anybody? 2014-05-11 20:54:01 anybody please? I would quote references but I'm a little drunk, but trust me, I know what I'm talking about 2014-05-11 21:08:16 perhaps this will liven things up? http://grooveshark.com/s/Champs+Elys+es/2Dotih?src=5 2014-05-11 21:12:37 or this? http://grooveshark.com/s/Your+Heart+Is+A+Muscle+The+Size+Of+Your+Fist/3VmaEl?src=5 2014-05-11 21:13:05 {I must apologize; drinking heavily, it is my birthday tomorrow :) 2014-05-11 23:40:02 lol ok 2014-05-13 06:57:10 hi 2014-05-13 06:57:20 how does alpine know where to save config changes ? 2014-05-13 06:57:41 I ran setup-alpine and it asks what device to use for saving config 2014-05-13 06:57:43 I chose usb 2014-05-13 06:57:53 how do I vertify it's saving settings in the usb 2014-05-13 06:58:11 it's saved in directory cache? 2014-05-13 07:00:51 no 2014-05-13 07:01:08 it shoudl be stored in /media/usb/.apkovl.tar.gz 2014-05-13 07:02:39 ncopa: I don't have that file 2014-05-13 07:02:49 ncopa: what to do to generate that 2014-05-13 07:03:07 lbu commit 2014-05-13 07:03:21 the "save config" tool is called 'lbu' 2014-05-13 07:03:25 local backup utility 2014-05-13 07:03:29 lbu -h 2014-05-13 07:03:45 http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_local_backup 2014-05-13 07:05:45 oh hmm nice 2014-05-13 07:06:32 btw, have you experineced before wifi drivers in linux with worse signal than their windows ver? 2014-05-13 07:06:55 not really 2014-05-13 07:06:56 I tried the hardware manufactor drivers for linux aswell still not as good signal as in windows 2014-05-13 07:07:11 but i have experienced diference with the windows driver and ubuntu drivers 2014-05-13 07:07:19 but ubuntu was better in my case 2014-05-13 07:07:26 so im not surprised 2014-05-13 07:07:55 it depends on the in kernel driver or firmware 2014-05-13 14:48:24 is there a tool for auto reinstalling packages after system boot, from alpine local backup wiki it says only /etc is saved what about the packages installed before /etc files were modified? 2014-05-13 14:53:08 never mind I see http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_package_management 2014-05-13 15:07:21 we should keep the current logo 2014-05-13 15:16:41 whats the name of the package that does cpu power saving 2014-05-13 15:16:46 and turns off hds 2014-05-13 15:31:53 zxd maybe cpufreq 2014-05-13 15:32:38 http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_CPU_frequency_scaling 2014-05-13 15:42:22 4~ 2014-05-13 15:58:49 ? 2014-05-13 21:00:34 where is the rc.local file in alpine linux I want to run hdparm -Y /dev/sd[abcd] at startup 2014-05-13 21:37:42 I just removed a package with apk but it still shows in cache dir 2014-05-13 21:38:00 does it not remove packages from cache after uninstalling with apk 2014-05-14 07:02:20 zxd_: its /etc/local.d/*.{start,stop} 2014-05-14 10:14:27 umm, mosh on alpine linux, anyone? 2014-05-14 10:14:39 not yet 2014-05-14 10:15:27 there's this: http://alpinelinux.org/apk/main/x86_64/mosh 2014-05-14 10:15:41 but its not really done yet? 2014-05-14 10:16:00 (i'm not very alive today, sorry if i ask stupid things) 2014-05-14 10:17:13 what do you mean not really done? 2014-05-14 10:17:56 because you said "not yet" 2014-05-14 10:18:36 sorry, I'm not very alive today as well.. 2014-05-14 10:19:33 I read mosh as musl 2014-05-14 10:19:57 so please just ignore me :) 2014-05-14 10:23:14 hehe 2014-05-14 10:23:26 get sleep, I'll do that on the train later 2014-05-14 10:23:31 will be great :) 2014-05-14 13:26:10 fbettag: have you ever successfully booted an unmodified alpine domU using pvgrub? 2014-05-14 13:26:28 or a 2.7+ one using pygrub 2014-05-14 13:26:45 i think neither of which works out of the box. 2014-05-14 13:27:22 no 2014-05-14 13:27:26 i never boot using grub 2014-05-14 13:27:43 darkfader: i wrote the mosh one first 2014-05-14 13:27:49 nobody ever accepted it 2014-05-14 13:27:55 meh 2014-05-14 13:28:05 anyway now i can install it without doing stunts ;O 2014-05-14 13:28:15 off for a bit 2014-05-14 13:40:47 haha 2014-05-14 13:40:47 cya 2014-05-14 13:40:47 imho it's not realy virtualisation ofif the kernel is specific / / stored n do0-. also, it sucks. 2014-05-14 14:09:57 darkfader: I've booted 2.7 and edge under linode's pv-grub if that helps 2014-05-14 14:11:20 but not a iso if that's what you're asking 2014-05-14 14:27:58 hello! 2014-05-14 14:28:05 first time in this channel 2014-05-14 14:29:07 welcome 2014-05-14 14:29:30 hi dvmacias 2014-05-14 14:31:59 fbettag: where did you send mosh? 2014-05-14 14:32:50 i have a quick question. ive installed some packages and their docs, specifically coreutils-doc 2014-05-14 14:33:09 when i do a "man cat" for example i get DESCRIPTION 2014-05-14 14:33:10 OOOPS! Due to the lack of perl on the build system, we were unable to create a proper manual page 2014-05-14 14:33:10 for ls. For concise option descriptions, run 2014-05-14 14:33:44 i have very little experience with the distro alpine 2014-05-14 14:33:59 how can i solve this? 2014-05-14 14:34:19 would this be forum question? 2014-05-14 14:34:30 oh 2014-05-14 14:34:33 i think its a bug 2014-05-14 14:34:41 coreutils probably needs perl to build 2014-05-14 14:35:19 hm 2014-05-14 14:35:24 what alpine version? 2014-05-14 14:36:03 cat /etc/issue 2014-05-14 14:36:03 Welcome to Alpine Linux 2.6 2014-05-14 14:36:03 Kernel \r on an \m (\l) 2014-05-14 14:36:21 i think its fixed in edge 2014-05-14 14:36:28 so it will be fixed for v3.0 2014-05-14 14:36:34 i can fix it for v2.7 too if you want 2014-05-14 14:36:46 and possibly for v2.6 too 2014-05-14 14:36:54 but then you'll have to file a bug on bugs.a.o 2014-05-14 14:37:01 http://bugs.alpinelinux.org 2014-05-14 14:40:12 i see 2014-05-14 14:40:27 is "edge" the next version of alpine? 2014-05-14 14:40:33 yes 2014-05-14 14:40:40 edge is "rolling" release 2014-05-14 14:40:41 hello, good day 2014-05-14 14:40:54 good day to you too 2014-05-14 14:41:04 every 6 month we take "edge" and make a release of whatever we have there 2014-05-14 14:41:08 hi api984 2014-05-14 14:41:17 how r u guys 2014-05-14 14:41:22 then we maintain that release for 2 yrs normally 2014-05-14 14:41:36 good thanks 2014-05-14 14:41:50 does alpine have and DFS FS in its repos…. havent checked that yet 2014-05-14 14:41:57 any DFS… 2014-05-14 14:43:31 i dunno. i havent used any really 2014-05-14 14:43:44 there was this mirror blockdevice thingy 2014-05-14 14:43:47 like raid over net 2014-05-14 14:43:52 im researching whole day what opensource DFS we have etc… 2014-05-14 14:44:00 as long its not drbd 2014-05-14 14:44:03 :D 2014-05-14 14:44:08 its drdb i was thinking of 2014-05-14 14:44:14 but its not really a DFS 2014-05-14 14:44:20 yup… 2014-05-14 14:44:28 GlusterFS, OCFS2, CEPH 2014-05-14 14:44:40 i think we have ocfs2 2014-05-14 14:44:50 these seem to be my favorites for now... 2014-05-14 14:44:57 lustre too complex to setup 2014-05-14 14:45:09 others seem to be too buggy and unreliable… 2014-05-14 14:45:24 we might have ghe glusterfs kernel modules but i dont think we have the userland tools (yet) 2014-05-14 14:45:47 same is with ceph 2014-05-14 14:46:07 thats why i am thinking about deploying a test VM environ to see if it will work 2014-05-14 14:46:14 iirc ocfstools doesnt build in edge currently 2014-05-14 14:46:18 but i plan to fix it 2014-05-14 14:46:18 ncopa: i could always try to compile…. 2014-05-14 14:46:27 sure 2014-05-14 14:46:43 i think i setup 3 alpines in my ICT 2014-05-14 14:46:50 but keep in mind we are in the middle of a libc switch 2014-05-14 14:47:07 so v2.7 is incompatible with v3.0/edge 2014-05-14 14:47:23 2 smtp LBs with haproxy and smarthost routing and a dovecot imap proxy with ssl… ps. i updated openssl libs to new wersion…. 2014-05-14 14:47:30 and things that builds in v2.7 does not necessarily buidls in edge 2014-05-14 14:47:43 sounds cool 2014-05-14 14:47:52 ncopa: one thing bothers me 2014-05-14 14:48:03 ncopa: the same place i sent cfengine 2014-05-14 14:48:04 :P 2014-05-14 14:48:05 ncopa: i installed then on hyperV server 2014-05-14 14:48:23 ncopa: not sure why they dont shutdown completely… 2014-05-14 14:48:35 ncopa: when i use halt / init 0 …. 2014-05-14 14:48:48 use "poweroff" instead of "halt" 2014-05-14 14:49:08 ncopa: brb… i tell you what release i am running… 2014-05-14 14:49:58 ok its 2.6 32bit 2014-05-14 14:51:18 ncopa: did anyone try to make a dovecot mail cluster with alpine maybe :D 2014-05-14 14:52:09 ncopa: where would i submit the bug? under "alpine package keeper" 2014-05-14 14:52:12 ? 2014-05-14 14:52:28 dvmacias: no, "alpine linux" 2014-05-14 14:52:37 package keepr is apk-tools, the package manager 2014-05-14 14:52:45 oh 2014-05-14 14:52:46 api984: i dunno 2014-05-14 14:52:51 ok cool thanks for the info 2014-05-14 14:53:36 ncopa: its ok…. i might try it soon 2014-05-14 15:02:40 just submited ticket. You all have a great day 2014-05-14 18:31:12 hoi 2014-05-14 18:31:28 is alpine support zfs? 2014-05-14 19:04:14 oummm 2014-05-14 19:04:43 the ssl certs are expired 2014-05-14 19:38:18 kocka: 2.7 and edge have the zfs module in testing 2014-05-14 20:25:01 uggedal: thanks 2014-05-14 20:27:24 and it would be nice to have an ssl enabled download site 2014-05-14 20:27:51 like http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/ -> https://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/ 2014-05-14 22:22:32 kocka ncopa: i'll sponsor an ssl certificate for alpine through our company 2014-05-14 22:23:16 kocka: also, zfs in linux is used with fuse 2014-05-14 22:23:23 thus should be not an issue imho 2014-05-14 22:23:33 but still, fuse comes with its own bagfull of crap 2014-05-14 22:24:41 fbettag: we ship the non fuse version 2014-05-14 22:26:08 oh sweet 2014-05-14 22:26:16 clandmeter: i didn't know it was that far along 2014-05-14 22:30:17 anyways, today 2 of our alpine dom0s went flying 2014-05-14 22:30:23 first they stopped clocking time 2014-05-14 22:30:29 like date just stopped 2014-05-14 22:30:47 one already went flying, the second looks like he is about to 2014-05-14 22:32:41 never used xen... 2014-05-14 22:33:15 our older alpine 2.6's run since i don't know, last year or so 2014-05-14 22:33:24 the 2.7 i just set up end of march 2014-05-14 22:33:29 and they're already tricking on me :( 2014-05-15 08:47:46 hi 2014-05-15 08:48:27 how do I remove a package from /etc/apk/cache I see cpufreqd..apk I removed the package but it still there 2014-05-15 08:51:05 with rm? 2014-05-15 08:51:24 apk cache clean ? 2014-05-15 08:51:28 will probably remove all 2014-05-15 08:51:42 apk cache sync 2014-05-15 08:51:50 is probably what you want 2014-05-15 08:52:32 zxd its just cached if you needed to install from cache (if same version) but apk help does have information on how to clean / purge cache 2014-05-15 09:02:32 apk cache clean dosent remove 2014-05-15 09:02:39 hmm yes I can remove manually 2014-05-15 09:03:20 I wonder why this one wasnt automated 2014-05-15 09:11:53 zxd auto purge? what should it be automated? 2014-05-15 09:14:44 I don't know packages which I don't have installed anymore, I read cache is for loading packages required at boot before loading network ... 2014-05-15 09:15:27 I am thinking with time cache dir will be full with packages I am not using anymore 2014-05-15 09:15:37 apk cache clean dosen't remove them 2014-05-15 09:17:53 sound slike a bug then 2014-05-15 09:18:05 and apk cache sync? 2014-05-15 09:18:12 does not remove old packages? 2014-05-15 09:21:39 http://pastebin.com/LQbgjPUv 2014-05-15 09:29:10 apk --version 2014-05-15 09:29:10 what apk version is it? 2014-05-15 09:31:44 apk --version 2014-05-15 09:31:44 apk-tools 2.4.3, compiled for x86_64. 2014-05-15 09:35:01 I filed a bug for it http://bugs.alpinelinux.org/issues/2889 2014-05-15 09:35:02 thanks 2014-05-15 09:49:12 thank you 2014-05-15 11:35:42 is it possible to include new directories with lbu include just the dir and its permission without inside content 2014-05-15 11:36:19 hm 2014-05-15 11:36:53 maybe with: lbu include /path/to/dir ; lbu exclude '/path/to/dir/*' 2014-05-15 11:36:58 zxd, first inlude the dir, and then exclude all subdirs with literal "*" 2014-05-15 12:50:21 how can i create an .apk package with abuild? 2014-05-15 12:51:33 kocka: clone our aports and run abuild -r in one of the pkg dirs 2014-05-15 12:51:53 all that information is on our wiki 2014-05-15 12:52:17 I'm doing this exactly 2014-05-15 12:52:24 but can't find the apk file 2014-05-15 12:52:55 check abuild.conf 2014-05-15 12:54:01 you can set the location of the apk files 2014-05-15 12:54:20 i think default is ~/packages 2014-05-15 12:54:33 REPODEST=$HOME/packages/ 2014-05-15 12:54:54 but there is no such directory 2014-05-15 13:06:19 and the help write this: 2014-05-15 13:06:19 -r Install missing dependencies from system repository (using sudo) 2014-05-15 13:24:53 kocka: i dont catch what you are trying to do 2014-05-15 13:25:00 you want to build a pkg from aports? 2014-05-15 13:25:22 yes 2014-05-15 13:25:37 did you add alpine-sdk? 2014-05-15 13:25:58 make sure you belong to aports group 2014-05-15 13:26:10 clone aports in your homedir 2014-05-15 13:26:26 cd ~/aports/main/bash (for instance) 2014-05-15 13:26:29 abuild -r 2014-05-15 13:26:29 I've cloned it, and i'm member of the aports group 2014-05-15 13:26:49 (probably i missed a few steps though) 2014-05-15 13:27:04 when you run abuil -r, does it output anyhting? 2014-05-15 13:27:11 nothing 2014-05-15 13:27:38 abuild doesnt output anything? 2014-05-15 13:27:48 not at all 2014-05-15 13:28:20 what happens if you do 2014-05-15 13:28:29 cd && abuild 2014-05-15 13:29:02 you should get an error 2014-05-15 13:29:47 yes 2014-05-15 13:29:53 >>> ERROR: : Could not find ./APKBUILD (PWD=/home/kocka) 2014-05-15 13:30:21 i could successfully build the package, into $pkgdir 2014-05-15 13:30:33 just can't create the .apk file 2014-05-15 13:31:19 but you told me abuild does not output anything? 2014-05-15 13:32:18 kocka: which pkg did you try to build? 2014-05-15 13:32:28 are you sure its succesful? 2014-05-15 13:33:04 without any parameters. but I did fetch, unpack, build 2014-05-15 13:33:46 just run it with abuild -r 2014-05-15 13:33:52 then it should do all that for you 2014-05-15 15:09:14 omg i'm such an idiot :DDD 2014-05-15 15:09:20 .lc 2014-05-15 15:09:37 clandmeter: sorry for wasting your time 2014-05-15 15:14:39 ohi, i just packaged up cjdns, will try to follow the wiki to publish it 2014-05-15 15:19:17 prFdq39d6JNJ: cool \„/ 2014-05-15 15:19:37 i'm building zfs-grsec apk 2014-05-15 15:20:18 since it was broke from 3.12 to 3.13 2014-05-15 15:20:33 but the stable 2.7 release has 3.10.40 kernel 2014-05-15 15:52:22 how do I compile custom modules in alpine-linux make[1]: *** /lib/modules/3.10.38-0-grsec/build: No such file or directory. Stop. 2014-05-15 15:53:05 zxd: have you installed the kernel-dev package? 2014-05-15 15:53:07 are there other packages build-base-0.3-r0 and linux-headers-3.10.17-r0 2014-05-15 15:53:13 no 2014-05-15 15:54:19 installkernel package? 2014-05-15 15:54:41 how do I see where the package was extracted after apk add 2014-05-15 15:55:35 apk search dosent show kernel-dev 2014-05-15 15:58:17 i mean linux-grsec-dev-kernelversion 2014-05-15 15:58:50 but i guess you are outdated 2014-05-15 15:59:03 and should upgrade from 3.10.38 to 3.10.40 2014-05-15 16:04:18 apk add linux-grsec 1/2) Installing linux-firmware (20130506-r0) 2014-05-15 16:04:18 ERROR: Failed to extract lib/firmware/LICENCE.ti-connectivity: Read-only file system 2014-05-15 16:04:48 zxd abuild help 2014-05-15 16:05:11 zxd you can use abuild unpack ; abuid prepare etc 2014-05-15 16:16:10 crow: I need to create a new linux package ? dont understand I get this error trying to install newer kernel 2014-05-15 16:16:10 ERROR: Failed to extract lib/firmware/LICENCE.ti-connectivity: Read-only file system 2014-05-15 16:16:27 ERROR: Failed to extract lib/modules/3.10.40-0-grsec/modules.symbols: No such file or directory 2014-05-15 16:29:00 how can I tell which ver of alpine I have installed 2014-05-15 16:41:40 it says apk upgrade --update-cache --available wont honor kernel updates that I need to burn the new release to the cd or usb but I see I already have the latest in /etc/alpine-release so how do I upgrade the kernel after all 2014-05-15 17:02:51 I ran setup-bootable -u http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/cgi-bin/dl.cgi/v2.7/releases/x86/alpine-2.7.7-x86.iso /media/$LBU_MEDIA but /media/usb/boot/ kernel ver is still .38 minor ver vmlinuz-3.10.38-0-grsec 2014-05-15 17:03:26 err sec 2014-05-15 17:03:29 that's the wrong image 2014-05-15 17:12:52 kocka: how do I upgrade to latest kernel in diskless configuration ? 2014-05-15 18:05:24 from where does alpine linux load the rootfs does it install .apk packages on the fly when loading diskless ? 2014-05-15 19:34:06 hmmmm, can i send the patch for the 2 packages i made manually to the list? the host on which i worked has no email sending capabilities. 2014-05-15 19:39:28 actually 2 separate patches, one for each, cjdns and i3wm 2014-05-15 19:43:59 prFdq39d6JNJ clandmeter showed me nice trick: git format-patch -1 and then cat 0001* |sprunge . If you dont have sprunge install it with apk add sprunge. (but you need to setup .git/config file egg email adres and username) 2014-05-15 20:05:23 i assume sprunge needs a smartrelay for this? 2014-05-15 20:06:43 and the system i can send email from is sadly not an alpine install. 2014-05-15 20:25:40 prFdq39d6JNJ: sprunge.us is a paste service 2014-05-15 20:27:12 if zxd gets back, tell him you cannot install kernel modules in diskless install 2014-05-15 20:27:37 it mounts modloop readonly where it wants to copy the kernel module. 2014-05-15 20:28:34 oh kool 2014-05-15 20:31:50 prFdq39d6JNJ: you can also use a service like github and ask us to pull 2014-05-15 20:32:46 oh. i just sent the patches to the mailing list. although without being subscribed. if they don't get through i setup a github repo for it 2014-05-15 20:33:45 clandmeter: is it ok if i fork your aport repo? 2014-05-15 20:34:12 oh, i just heard the commits arrived 2014-05-15 20:35:42 you can fork, but its a bit old 2014-05-15 20:35:51 actually i dont know how old it is 2014-05-15 20:35:58 ok. i create a new one then. 2014-05-15 20:36:20 and im not sure my master is clean (although you can hard reset i guess) 2014-05-15 20:36:30 yeah just clone ours and push to github 2014-05-15 20:36:40 its not that bug. 2014-05-15 20:36:43 big even 2014-05-15 20:38:02 that's the plan 2014-05-15 20:44:40 https://github.com/stef/aports 2014-05-15 20:46:49 sorry for messing up the log subject line /o\ 2014-05-15 20:52:46 prFdq39d6JNJ: some remarks 2014-05-15 20:52:52 pls 2014-05-15 20:53:03 libsodium 2014-05-15 20:53:25 i guess its linked to libsodium? 2014-05-15 20:53:29 yes 2014-05-15 20:53:30 cjdns 2014-05-15 20:53:52 add libsodium-dev not libsodium 2014-05-15 20:53:59 ok! 2014-05-15 20:54:22 abuild will scan and auto add deps 2014-05-15 20:54:51 ooh. right. cool! 2014-05-15 20:55:08 so enough if added to makedpends right? 2014-05-15 20:55:17 yes 2014-05-15 20:55:20 done 2014-05-15 20:55:37 whats the gzip in build 2014-05-15 20:55:58 move it to package 2014-05-15 20:56:08 package funct 2014-05-15 20:56:25 abuild will auto detect doc files 2014-05-15 20:56:28 removed 2014-05-15 20:56:37 put it into doc() 2014-05-15 20:56:44 no remove doco 2014-05-15 20:56:46 -o 2014-05-15 20:57:00 only use doc when you need to overiide 2014-05-15 20:57:09 actually did so 2014-05-15 20:59:43 cosmetics, please try to break after ~ 80 chars if possible 2014-05-15 20:59:57 use commit msg like we always do 2014-05-15 21:00:13 yeah i saw it too late, will do so! 2014-05-15 21:00:21 testing/pkgname: whatever 2014-05-15 21:02:08 that also means i can leave the depends empty in the i3wm apkbuildfile 2014-05-15 21:03:07 yes, if its linked abuild will detect it. 2014-05-15 21:03:34 the rest of course you need to add to depens (like perl,python...) 2014-05-15 21:04:18 :w 2014-05-15 21:04:49 it only depends for the build on these 2014-05-15 21:04:56 very stupid buildsystem. 2014-05-15 21:09:51 why are you running make clean in i3wm? 2014-05-15 21:12:10 i'm a noob, didn't know it's not necessary. will remove it. 2014-05-15 21:12:35 done. 2014-05-15 21:12:56 anything else? i'll commit a follow up as soon as you agree 2014-05-15 21:14:00 thats what i like about PR's you can mess with them and keep your master clean 2014-05-15 21:14:19 now you get all sorts of commits you rather not share :D 2014-05-15 21:15:09 prFdq39d6JNJ: you patched it yourself? 2014-05-15 21:15:17 what? 2014-05-15 21:15:44 i3 2014-05-15 21:16:13 all patches are done by me. yes. i simply removed the glob_tilde references, which are not implemented in musl. 2014-05-15 21:16:42 and you said you are a noob 2014-05-15 21:16:57 well at alpinelinux packaging at least i am 2014-05-15 21:17:28 i installed alpine the first time yesterday. 2014-05-15 21:17:39 and it lacked some packages for my taste 2014-05-15 21:17:58 it still does, but these were the most important ones ;) 2014-05-15 21:18:21 the only other thing i'm missing is zfs. but i hope this will come in 3.15 2014-05-15 21:18:48 i'm unsure if bisecting is a very efficient way to express my impatience. 2014-05-15 21:19:15 we have zfs 2014-05-15 21:19:29 not in 3.14.4 for x86_64 afaik 2014-05-15 21:19:37 which is in edge 2014-05-15 21:20:32 musl was the deciding factor for edge and alpine linux. zfs and grsec i had on other systems. but all 3 together, is extremely awesome. 2014-05-15 21:21:27 looks like ncopa has disabled it 2014-05-15 21:21:29 do you have any previous opinion on runit in alpine linux? i'd be happy to package it up to. 2014-05-15 21:22:00 http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/aports/commit/testing/zfs-grsec/APKBUILD?id=aae9b85589353977b48beb9efae04ae46d6f7063 2014-05-15 21:22:04 im not sure why 2014-05-15 21:22:56 it breaks druing compile time. i tried it out. some functions parameters have changed 2014-05-15 21:23:23 zfs? 2014-05-15 21:24:08 regarding runit, you better ask ncopa tomorrow, or send it to the ML 2014-05-15 21:25:17 i think for the rest your abuilds are ok 2014-05-15 21:25:18 zfs-grsec to be precise is what i tried out 2014-05-15 21:26:13 yeah, probably something in the kernel changed. atleast thats what i run into before. 2014-05-15 21:26:40 can you also provide contributor 2014-05-15 21:27:15 it should be automatic when you use newapkbuild 2014-05-15 21:28:28 added 2014-05-15 21:31:03 clandmeter: https://github.com/stef/aports/commit/931d77eef6fb3fd8ebb0c1644f3cfb58f8e2554c and https://github.com/stef/aports/commit/a2cd04c4471d53d25924db5b0596b58b56ca04fc 2014-05-15 21:31:26 meh, forgot the pkgrel in cjdns 2014-05-15 21:31:34 does it matter? 2014-05-15 21:32:26 not aslong its not upstream which it isnt 2014-05-15 21:33:48 ok, so i update this 2014-05-15 21:34:09 well it wasn't upstream yet i presume 2014-05-15 21:34:28 or are the mailing list patches automatically (or after rewiew) applied? 2014-05-15 21:38:17 nah, i dont think anybody has merged them. 2014-05-15 21:38:23 its not that active. 2014-05-15 21:38:42 ok, so how should i submit the new commits? 2014-05-15 21:39:01 also i am thinking of packaging up tahoe-lafs next. 2014-05-15 21:39:17 prFdq39d6JNJ: >>> WARNING: cjdns: You should not have $install in source 2014-05-15 21:39:56 oh. so? only the filename of the post-install script? 2014-05-15 21:40:08 no we dont add them to source 2014-05-15 21:40:49 oh, so only in install, but not in source. ok. got it. 2014-05-15 21:43:10 meh 2014-05-15 21:46:00 cjdns abuild -r complains that libsodium is unsatisfiable it masks it in testing, while i'm on edge and have @testing in repositories 2014-05-15 21:46:53 i got to go now. ill check your aports tomorrow and merge it if its ok. 2014-05-15 21:47:05 bedtime :) 2014-05-15 21:47:20 ok gn8! 2014-05-15 21:47:24 thx! 2014-05-15 21:47:46 cjdns builds ok for me here. 2014-05-15 21:48:00 oh and be carefull your post scripts exit correctly 2014-05-15 21:48:11 http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/APKBUILD_Reference#install 2014-05-15 21:48:23 err install scripts 2014-05-15 21:48:35 gnite 2014-05-16 03:55:58 anyone know if there is an issue with the current curses apk in edge? 2014-05-16 03:56:33 "Error relocating /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5: __fputc_unlocked: symbol not found" 2014-05-16 05:11:21 prFdq39d6JNJ: regarding runit, busybox has a runit applet. If that satisfies your needs it would be simple to enable it. If not anyone is opposed to a slightly larger busybox 2014-05-16 06:07:15 hi 2014-05-16 06:16:22 how do I change clock to localtime I set it to IST in /etc/TZ even rebooted 2014-05-16 06:16:27 still shows UTC in date 2014-05-16 06:37:10 mount -o remount,rw /media/usb/ 2014-05-16 06:37:11 localhost:~# apk add linux-grsec 2014-05-16 06:37:11 (1/3) Installing mkinitfs (2.5.3-r0) 2014-05-16 06:37:11 (2/3) Installing linux-firmware (20130506-r0) 2014-05-16 06:37:11 ERROR: Failed to extract lib/firmware/LICENCE.ti-connectivity: Read-only file system 2014-05-16 06:37:11 ERROR: linux-firmware-20130506-r0: Read-only file system 2014-05-16 06:37:12 (3/3) Installing linux-grsec (3.10.40-r0) 2014-05-16 06:37:12 ERROR: Failed to extract lib/modules/3.10.40-0-grsec/modules.symbols: No such file or directory 2014-05-16 06:37:13 wget: short write 2014-05-16 06:37:13 ERROR: linux-grsec-3.10.40-r0: No such file or directory 2014-05-16 06:37:14 Executing busybox-1.21.1-r0.trigger 2014-05-16 06:37:14 3 errors; 87 MiB in 61 packages 2014-05-16 06:38:12 zxd_ i dont know if you saw this: 22:27:12) (@clandmeter) if zxd gets back, tell him you cannot install kernel modules in diskless install 2014-05-16 06:49:22 alright thanks 2014-05-16 07:07:20 (22:27:37) (@clandmeter) it mounts modloop readonly where it wants to copy the kernel module. 2014-05-16 07:12:44 re runit, I have been thinking of enabling runit 2014-05-16 07:12:49 i think we can do that 2014-05-16 07:13:09 zxd_: as crow has mentioned 2014-05-16 07:13:36 zxd_: and timezone is set by setup-timezone script 2014-05-16 07:13:52 zxd_: with musl the TZ setting changed a bit. you can apk upgrade -U && setup-timezone 2014-05-16 07:14:08 ERROR: Failed to extract lib/firmware/LICENCE.ti-connectivity: Read-only file system 2014-05-16 07:14:26 you cannot install kernel or kernel modules in a diskless system 2014-05-16 07:14:27 well 2014-05-16 07:14:29 actually you can 2014-05-16 07:14:42 you just need to unmount the modloop 2014-05-16 07:14:48 wiht /etc/init.d/modloop stop 2014-05-16 07:15:20 what if that module depends on another? 2014-05-16 07:15:56 if you unmount modloop you lose the ability to load kernel modules in the current runtime 2014-05-16 07:16:06 we should have overlayfs 2014-05-16 07:16:20 so many projects are using it. 2014-05-16 07:16:25 only when its in mainline 2014-05-16 07:16:53 re zfs, i'd be happy to enable it again if someone can point me to the exact commits that fixes the building on 3.14 kernels 2014-05-16 07:18:06 re compiling kernel, you probably need disk for that anyways, unless you have *lots* or memory 2014-05-16 09:13:27 ncopa: started to look into the commit log, but have not found the patches yet. if i do i'll tell you. 2014-05-16 09:16:05 goody 2014-05-16 09:16:06 thanks 2014-05-16 09:45:02 Hi everyone, was wondering how to keep xen-grsec as my default when doing apk upgrade instead of reverting to grsec ? 2014-05-16 10:58:11 kaniini: didn't you recently talk about affordable wildcard certs? 2014-05-16 10:59:49 who is it-offshore? 2014-05-16 11:06:57 i guess its BitL0G1c 2014-05-16 11:33:53 if it's for a.org you could apply for free oss ssl certs at GlobalSign 2014-05-16 11:33:55 https://www.globalsign.com/ssl/ssl-open-source/ 2014-05-16 12:27:56 my general opinion is that the X509 CA system is a scam 2014-05-16 12:37:30 kaniini: i guess that means you dont have a alternative nor a solution? 2014-05-16 12:41:00 well, i buy wildcards from a reseller 2014-05-16 12:41:04 http://www.ipxcore.com 2014-05-16 12:41:12 they're $48 i think 2014-05-16 12:41:25 oh, $42. 2014-05-16 12:42:51 i just generated certs for *.a.o from startssl. 2014-05-16 12:45:31 clandmeter: I'd suggest to configure the vhost to allow ssl access for iso downloads. 2014-05-16 12:46:48 yes i have added that to the list of certs 2014-05-16 12:47:52 thx 2014-05-16 12:49:44 kocka: i can only make one for nl.a.o 2014-05-16 12:49:51 the rest i dont have access to. 2014-05-16 12:50:00 well maybe from dl-* mirrors 2014-05-16 12:50:14 but i think nl.a.o should be enough. 2014-05-16 13:00:52 startssl charges for reissues due to heartbleed 2014-05-16 16:49:54 clandmeter: if I umount modloop it complains about ERROR: Failed to extract lib/firmware/LICENCE.ti-connectivity: No such file or directory 2014-05-16 16:51:13 also it dosent allow me to mount /media/usb/boot/grsec.modloop.squashfs rw on /.modloop 2014-05-16 16:52:26 zxd_, swuashfs is read-only filesystem. it's not writable by design. 2014-05-16 19:16:44 is it possible to manually install older ver of a package with apk per example linux-grsec-dev-3.10.38 2014-05-16 19:17:22 if you have a copy of it, you can. 2014-05-16 19:18:44 actually I can't find it on any repository anymore 2014-05-16 19:18:57 we dont keep older pkgs 2014-05-16 19:18:59 it isn't common to keep older packages archvied? 2014-05-16 19:19:06 I see 2014-05-16 19:19:08 no only in releases 2014-05-16 19:30:20 Ok I make custom image http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/How_to_make_a_custom_ISO_image looks easy enouth 2014-05-16 20:27:32 i checked the zfs/linux problems. and it seems that there's some reworks going on in the kernel fs area, dropping old code etc. changes like: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/520c8b16505236fc82daa352e6c5e73cd9870cff and https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/b21996e36c8e3b92a84e972378bde80b43acd890 2014-05-16 20:27:55 in zfsonlinux however yao submitted some fixes for 3.13 compatibility: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/spl/commit/50a0749eba31e821a7edf286f1e3b149f7d13c59 2014-05-16 20:31:26 ncopa: so, dunno but maybe i try a git HEAD version of spl/zfs if it works with it. 2014-05-16 20:57:56 hi folks... 2014-05-16 20:58:08 whats a good tool to monitor networktraffic 2014-05-16 20:58:56 tcpdump,wireshark.. dozens more 2014-05-16 21:01:32 i run a public wifi network 2014-05-16 21:02:22 and want to check wich dns are most reqested 2014-05-16 21:07:56 If you run a local dns server and want to check most requested domains try this 2014-05-16 21:08:00 http://dns.measurement-factory.com/tools/dnstop/ 2014-05-16 21:08:39 Otherwise a pcap using wireshark could work if you ran it over s long period 2014-05-16 21:09:20 Just filter to only capture on tcp and udp ports 53 2014-05-16 21:09:20 has anyone tried out the dnscrypt-proxy package 2014-05-16 21:10:09 Not yet but I need to 2014-05-16 21:10:28 AndChat611184: thanks, looks good but dnstop is noch the repo 2014-05-16 21:10:57 Not yet 2014-05-16 21:11:32 I think there might be something wrong with it 2014-05-16 21:11:41 http://bugs.alpinelinux.org/issues/2890 2014-05-16 21:11:42 I start it and it set the name server to 127.0.0.1 in resolv.conf 2014-05-16 21:11:49 but I can't look anything up 2014-05-16 21:15:17 @mp5shooter is the resolver set correctly? 2014-05-16 21:15:28 what do you mean 2014-05-16 21:16:10 Looking at http://dnscrypt.org/ 2014-05-16 21:16:28 It looks like you must set a resolver 2014-05-16 21:16:43 A dnscrypt capable dns server 2014-05-16 21:19:08 This seems to have possible servers https://github.com/jedisct1/dnscrypt-proxy/blob/master/dnscrypt-resolvers.csv 2014-05-16 21:19:23 the package does all that 2014-05-16 21:24:10 Any logd for it? 2014-05-16 21:24:22 *logs 2014-05-16 21:26:21 Unbound is running? (Needs unbound right?) 2014-05-16 21:27:57 oh 2014-05-16 21:28:00 yeah 2014-05-16 21:28:03 I thought that was optional 2014-05-16 21:28:03 lol 2014-05-16 21:28:09 :-) 2014-05-16 21:28:13 works now, cool 2014-05-16 21:29:54 anyone know how to fix this in edge? "Error relocating /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5: __fputc_unlocked: symbol not found" 2014-05-16 21:44:29 oh 2014-05-16 21:44:30 just kidding 2014-05-16 21:44:32 it didn't work 2014-05-16 21:44:42 I forgot to change nameserver in resolv.conf back to 127.0.0.1 2014-05-16 21:45:04 unbound and dnscrypt-proxy both want to listen on port 53 2014-05-16 21:48:21 Oh yes one of them should listen on diff port 2014-05-16 21:48:42 but then how do you set all that up 2014-05-16 21:49:19 In here http://dnscrypt.org/ 2014-05-16 21:49:46 It uses example unbound to port 40 2014-05-16 21:50:49 In section " Using DNSCrypt in combination with a DNS cache" 2014-05-16 21:52:56 Although looking at http://lists.alpinelinux.org/alpine-devel/3368.html I think unbound should be listening on 127.0.0.2? 2014-05-16 21:56:11 I really need to test the package but will be tomorrow at earliest 2014-05-16 21:57:16 If I read the script right, unbound is on 127.0.0.2 and dnscrypt on 127.0.0.1 2014-05-16 21:57:31 But I'm no coder :-( 2014-05-16 22:09:32 Hmmmm I think unbound should listen on 127.0.0.1 and dnscrypt on 127.0.0.2. unbound forward zone should point to 127.0.0.2. 2014-05-16 22:10:27 At least that's how I think it should work 2014-05-16 22:11:15 Resolv.conf should point to 127.0.0.1 2014-05-16 22:14:46 hm 2014-05-16 22:14:52 looks like unbound is only needed if you want caching 2014-05-16 22:14:58 so I don't know why it doesn't work on its own 2014-05-16 22:15:00 it keeps saying 2014-05-16 22:15:01 [ERROR] Unable to retrieve server certificates 2014-05-16 22:22:59 Can you try a different server? 2014-05-16 22:26:39 I'll give it a test when I can. Maybe tomorrow. Sorry I can't help more right now 2014-05-17 00:05:47 xaocon: what are you trying to do? 2014-05-17 06:04:10 how do I get a list of installed packages in alpine-linux 2014-05-17 06:05:42 ah /etc/apk/world ? 2014-05-17 06:11:25 how to list files installed from a package 2014-05-17 06:54:23 hi 2014-05-17 06:55:21 everytime I boot diskless usb I get error about ERROR: vsftpd.preinstall script failed with error 1 2014-05-17 06:55:25 right after boot: 2014-05-17 08:53:23 can I ask wifi problems issues here? 2014-05-17 09:03:10 you can always try 2014-05-17 09:10:34 using alpine linux with 2 usb wifi interface one acting as AP the other as Managed connected to an AP with internet connection, the problem is when I transfer data to/from the linux box on the AP interface the managed interface connected to the AP with internet completly freezes all data transfers 2014-05-17 09:12:31 the AP on channel 11 , the managed interface on 1 2014-05-17 09:12:40 going to try and set them on the same channel 2014-05-17 09:12:41 brb 2014-05-17 10:23:51 zxd apk info -v 2014-05-17 10:24:53 zxd apk info only shows installed pacakges , switch -v print their version info 2014-05-17 10:27:20 zxd apk --help info 2014-05-17 10:27:44 or any apk --help to show all apk commands 2014-05-17 11:46:59 where is the correct location for adding custom entries to /sys such as echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile 2014-05-17 11:46:59 on boot 2014-05-17 13:42:05 hi 2014-05-17 13:42:36 anyway to keep interface name persistent in alpline linux I recall in other distros it was a matter of adding rules to /etc/udev 2014-05-17 13:43:45 we use mdev, but you can install udev if you like. 2014-05-17 13:45:15 http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Gnome_Setup#udev 2014-05-17 13:55:17 hi 2014-05-17 13:55:38 there is a problem with vsftpd package possible with other packages that modify /etc/passwd /etc/group 2014-05-17 13:57:49 on diskless setup it reinstalls packages on every reboot correct? so in the first vsftpd installation it adds user and group to passwd and group /etc ... I execute lbu commit and it stays there, after reboot it again tries to create the users and it fails with preinstall vsftpd exited error 1 or similar since the user already exists 2014-05-17 13:58:03 it's just cosmetic anoying to see it 2014-05-17 14:06:23 zxd_: i think thats' something to open a bug for, then someone could wrap it 2014-05-17 14:06:51 how do I see in what package a file belongs to in the system 2014-05-17 14:07:02 like /usr/bin/iconv to what package does it belong to 2014-05-17 14:07:21 i always have to search how to do that, don't remember 2014-05-17 14:07:31 there's a way :) 2014-05-17 14:44:20 hi I may have a stupid question if ulibc is much faster why not use by default instead of GNU c library ? 2014-05-17 14:44:40 everywhere why only on embeded devices 2014-05-17 14:46:59 ah ok it supports less stuff 2014-05-17 14:47:03 https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/uclibc/Glibc_vs_uClibc_Differences.txt 2014-05-17 15:15:47 zxd_: we are using uclibc, there are not traces of glibc. 2014-05-17 15:16:00 in edge we use musl libc 2014-05-17 15:16:19 our upcoming 3.0 release will have musl libc. 2014-05-17 23:50:22 ACTION rawrs at TheWilfox 2014-05-18 07:21:33 moin 2014-05-18 07:58:21 in what package is ping command 2014-05-18 07:58:24 not from busybox 2014-05-18 08:19:30 apk info --help 2014-05-18 08:29:02 it's horrible browsing the web with elinks 2014-05-18 09:06:00 I trying to make my own grsec.modloop.squashfs from release 2.5.4 with kernel and firmware 3.6.11 how can I tell what compression and options was used to create the squashfs file 2014-05-18 09:21:25 btw, I just ran diff on the kernel inside package linux-grsec from 2.5.4 apks dir and it differes from the grsec vmlinuz kernel in the iso of the 2.5.4 release shouldnt they be the same kernel unless the iso ver was compiled with special options 2014-05-18 09:22:45 nevermind it could be a different revision 2014-05-18 09:44:50 I can't find the package with content has /lib/modules/kernelver/extra 2014-05-18 09:44:56 it's for iptables modules 2014-05-18 09:45:01 it isn;t in iptables package 2014-05-18 09:46:27 found it on google xtables-addon 2014-05-18 10:11:51 is there something like apt-file for alpine-linux? 2014-05-18 10:12:05 to search for packages who has file X,Y,Z but are not installed yet 2014-05-18 10:19:54 /usr/bin/ac 2014-05-18 10:20:50 http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux_package_management 2014-05-18 10:21:01 apk info --who-owns /sbin/lbu 2014-05-18 10:22:25 but the package must be on the disk 2014-05-18 10:22:27 installed 2014-05-18 10:31:55 i don't think so 2014-05-18 10:44:54 yes is does 2014-05-18 10:45:18 we do not provide a db of all apk contents 2014-05-18 11:05:50 apk info --who-owns /home/your/mom 2014-05-18 11:30:44 clandmeter: do you have mkinitfs.conf used to make grsec.gz for alpine 2.7 iso release 2014-05-18 11:33:22 zxd: we are and opensource project. everything we use is on git.alpinelinux.org 2014-05-18 11:35:03 your questions probably refers to http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/mkinitfs/tree 2014-05-18 11:35:51 zxd: I dont mind you asking questions in here (thats what irc is for) but most of the anwers can be find in our wiki or other alpine online resources. 2014-05-18 11:48:50 clandmeter: not sure that mkinitfs git tree has the same mkinitfs.conf used for creating the .iso images 2014-05-18 11:49:11 check alpine-iso 2014-05-18 11:49:25 ok 2014-05-18 14:43:58 how do I get date to show local time IST i tried the setup-timezone script 2014-05-18 14:52:21 also why does keyboard and mice become dead when I load X it just freezes on xfce4 desktop 2014-05-18 15:07:43 I see in the xorg logs 2014-05-18 15:07:59 the server relies on udev to provide list of devices 2014-05-18 15:08:45 If no devices become available reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices 2014-05-18 17:02:09 where does alpine-linux keep database of packages that are currently installed APKINDEX ... ? 2014-05-18 18:30:57 zxd_: /etc/apk/world 2014-05-18 18:31:05 but it does not list deps 2014-05-18 18:57:44 yes world I know it's cool 2014-05-18 18:58:01 I see with strace it opens /lib/apk/db/installed 2014-05-18 18:58:55 should that installed file be identical to /media/usb/cache/installed 2014-05-18 18:59:11 because it does create that installed file on /media/usb/cache but it is always empty 2014-05-18 18:59:29 maybe that's the reason apk cache sync -v dosen't clean the packages in cache 2014-05-18 19:01:19 nah it dosen't work either way 2014-05-19 07:14:28 morning 2014-05-19 07:14:57 I followed the howto about xfce4 in alpine linux setup-... but there are no icons in my xfce panel has anyone seen this? 2014-05-19 07:20:19 go to settings and select an icon theme 2014-05-19 07:20:46 Settings -> Appearance -> Icons Tab 2014-05-19 07:21:29 zxd i think this folder should contain icons theme: /usr/share/icons/ 2014-05-19 07:24:20 they should be there 2014-05-19 07:24:23 i think its a dep 2014-05-19 07:30:45 zxd you are still on disk-less install? 2014-05-19 07:32:41 crow: yes 2014-05-19 07:35:41 zxd: I have seen it 2014-05-19 07:35:49 could you please file a bug about it? 2014-05-19 07:36:01 i think something is missing in the setup 2014-05-19 07:36:13 you can go to settings and select an icon theme 2014-05-19 07:36:18 and it shoudl work 2014-05-19 07:44:35 I installed faenza and hicolor and tango, only tango shows in the menu, it's selected 2014-05-19 07:44:47 no icons in panel 2014-05-19 07:45:53 I am talking about panel number 2 2014-05-19 07:46:01 with xfce4 terminal firefox etc 2014-05-19 07:46:22 file manager ... 2014-05-19 08:22:07 edge is 3.0 ? 2014-05-19 08:22:39 zxd currently yes (based on musl) 2014-05-19 09:50:56 what does this mean : 2014-05-19 09:50:58 If you are using Alpine as a Native build system you will have to make sure that 2014-05-19 09:51:01 kernel.grsecurity.chroot_deny_chmod = 0 2014-05-19 09:51:11 from installing alpine-linux-in a chroot wiki 2014-05-19 10:03:25 it means that if you are doing things in a chroot with a grsec'ed kernel 2014-05-19 10:03:31 things might not work as expected 2014-05-19 10:03:58 the alpine linux kernel adds various restrictions on what you can do inside a chroot 2014-05-19 10:04:21 cool 2014-05-19 10:04:57 you find the knobs in /proc/sys/kernel/grsecurity/ 2014-05-19 10:05:59 do you know if there is an option in alpine-iso to make it build grsec.modloop with custom modules I build in the chroot build environment 2014-05-19 10:06:22 I haven't digged in alpine-iso yet just wondering if there is something easy ready 2014-05-19 10:09:09 ncopa: have you seen my findings about zfs/grsec? most important is this: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/spl/commit/50a0749eba31e821a7edf286f1e3b149f7d13c59 2014-05-19 10:59:28 prFdq39d6JNJ: spl-condvar.c:57:34: error: 'struct thread_info' has no member named 'preempt_count' 2014-05-19 10:59:28 if (current_thread_info()->preempt_count || irqs_disabled()) 2014-05-19 10:59:37 with that patch 2014-05-19 10:59:44 was there some more patch? 2014-05-19 11:01:58 thanks! will research for more patches 2014-05-19 11:06:11 https://github.com/zfsonlinux/spl/commit/3e96de17d723d6f6c9e2fd04b059b50d4e0bbef0 2014-05-19 11:07:45 aah. nice 2014-05-19 11:07:54 that actually made it build :) 2014-05-19 11:07:56 nice! 2014-05-19 11:08:04 !!! thx! <3 2014-05-19 11:09:09 lets se if zfs builds too... 2014-05-19 11:14:28 it doesnt 2014-05-19 11:16:08 well 2014-05-19 11:16:14 the userspace tools doesnot build 2014-05-19 11:17:42 i can research this in the evening if you want. do you have logs? or how can i reproduce your build? 2014-05-19 11:18:14 i only did this: http://sprunge.us/XBAX 2014-05-19 11:18:16 and abuild -r 2014-05-19 11:18:37 the error: http://sprunge.us/hSJZ 2014-05-19 11:18:42 huh? 2014-05-19 11:18:48 hrtime 2014-05-19 11:18:50 only? and the patch? 2014-05-19 11:19:03 thx. looking at the build log 2014-05-19 11:19:04 and __gnu_va_list 2014-05-19 11:19:18 there are some suspicious warnings too 2014-05-19 11:19:25 the redefinition of PAGESIZE 2014-05-19 11:40:53 hey not very good with git, I cloned aports, and git branch v2.7.7 , how do I got a bit higher I want the latest ver of xtables-addonds-grsec-3.10.40-r0 for v2.7.7 release 2014-05-19 11:47:14 zxd: what is your current running alpine version? edge or 2.7? 2014-05-19 11:48:38 2.7 I did git log main/xtables-addons-grsec/APKBUILD but I do not see version 3.10.40-r0 in the log it jumps straigh to 3.12.4-r0 from 3.10.23-r0 2014-05-19 11:48:43 clandmeter: 2014-05-19 11:50:32 we dont have a 2.7.7 branch 2014-05-19 11:50:38 so you created one i guess 2014-05-19 11:52:48 yes 2014-05-19 11:52:54 2.7.7 tag I mean 2014-05-19 11:53:46 prFdq39d6JNJ: there are vaious issues 2014-05-19 11:53:56 I checkout to the tag 2014-05-19 11:53:57 you will have to bump the kernel plus the module. I think ncopa has some script to bump all kernel modules at ones. 2014-05-19 11:54:27 problem one is that some system /usr/include file ends up pulling in sys/time.h from libspl 2014-05-19 11:54:35 causing total confusion 2014-05-19 11:55:09 uh. how did that happen? sounds like a cross fuckup 2014-05-19 11:55:19 that can be worked around by make sure the .c file that triggers it first include 2014-05-19 11:55:56 then there is a problem with libspl definig __va_list as __gnu_va_list 2014-05-19 11:56:00 they shoudlnt do that really... 2014-05-19 11:56:17 third thing is that they wan rcp/xdr.h 2014-05-19 11:56:34 we could probably tweak it to use libtirpc 2014-05-19 11:56:52 but i think i give it up for now... 2014-05-19 11:57:05 should probably be reported upstream to zfs devs 2014-05-19 12:23:47 what to put in APKBUILD to make it fetch source code from git instead of using source="" 2014-05-19 12:29:38 ncopa: thx! 2014-05-19 12:53:22 zxd: check abuild --help and check its source which has some desc. 2014-05-19 13:16:27 what is cd "$_builddir" 2014-05-19 13:16:28 update_config_sub || return 1 2014-05-19 13:16:34 upodate_config_sub 2014-05-19 13:16:40 update* 2014-05-19 13:35:02 zxd: older config.sub will not recoghince musl as a valid system 2014-05-19 15:19:26 abuild-apk: Not a member of group abuild 2014-05-19 15:19:33 what does this mean 2014-05-19 15:19:40 I am running as root with -F 2014-05-19 15:26:53 Missing dependencies: linux-grsec-dev=3.10.40-r0 linux-grsec=3.10.40-r0 Use -r to autoinstall or -R to build 2014-05-19 15:27:05 I just manually Installed it with apk 2014-05-19 15:27:10 why does it still complain 2014-05-19 15:27:12 abuild 2014-05-19 15:28:59 ok got it 2014-05-19 15:47:52 dosen't work 2014-05-19 15:47:58 what package has the diff tool 2014-05-19 16:01:31 what does abuild keep trying to get src .tar.gz from Unpacking /var/cache/distfiles 2014-05-19 16:12:53 srcdir variable dosen;t have any effect 2014-05-19 16:21:51 'make CONFIG_DEBUG_SECTION_MISMATCH=y' CC /root/8192cu-wifi-grsec/src/8192cu-wifi/8192cu.mod.o LD [M] /root/8192cu-wifi-grsec/src/8192cu-wifi/8192cu.ko 2014-05-19 16:21:54 make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-3.10.40-0-grsec' 2014-05-19 16:21:57 >>> ERROR: : Do not run abuild as root 2014-05-19 16:21:59 >>> ERROR: 8192cu-wifi-grsec: all failed 2014-05-19 18:13:05 this is so weird localhost:~$ sudo echo "${mirror}/v2.7/main" >./${build_dir}/etc/apk/repositories 2014-05-19 18:13:06 -ash: can't create ./build/etc/apk/repositories: Permission denied 2014-05-19 18:16:09 something to do with grsec? 2014-05-19 18:25:56 check dmesg 2014-05-19 18:26:03 that should tell you if its grsec related 2014-05-19 18:26:08 I tried 2014-05-19 18:26:10 nothing 2014-05-19 18:30:23 then you dont have permission to create the directory 2014-05-19 18:30:52 you run sudo echo but pipe as regular user 2014-05-19 18:42:57 then I should use an editor to directly edit the file 2014-05-19 18:43:00 like ed? 2014-05-19 19:14:07 hmm I moved the files from usb diskless /boot directory except syslinux then back to the usb stick now it won't boot 2014-05-19 19:14:29 shouldnt it work fine aslong as I dont move the location of syslinux files on the usb 2014-05-19 21:26:05 <_lb_> So... Someone in my team accidentally enabled all branches of the apk repos... 2014-05-19 21:26:35 <_lb_> and now that we are trying to install new packages all we get is : 2014-05-19 21:26:35 <_lb_> ERROR: unsatisfiable constraints: 2014-05-19 21:26:35 <_lb_> lshw (missing): 2014-05-19 21:26:37 <_lb_> required by: world[lshw] 2014-05-19 21:26:43 <_lb_> Does that sound familiar? 2014-05-19 21:31:36 <_lb_> mn, got it 2014-05-19 21:31:38 <_lb_> Thanks! 2014-05-19 23:00:39 clandmeter: I was trying to open vim 2014-05-20 08:33:58 xaocon: ? 2014-05-20 16:26:41 on postgres upgrades we give a nice message that "you'll need to update etc" but actually at that point the start scripts and maybe even binaries are already nuked 2014-05-20 16:30:12 glad the restore part works :) 2014-05-20 16:36:29 well nevermind, my confluence boxes are now puke 2014-05-20 18:55:23 where do i find a limits.h for compiling? 2014-05-20 18:56:49 (on 2.7) 2014-05-20 18:58:28 hmmm /usr/include/linux/limits.h exists 2014-05-20 18:58:48 ah, and /usr/include/limits.h doesnt 2014-05-20 19:06:41 found it in uclibc-dev 2014-05-21 07:10:17 Hi 2014-05-21 07:11:07 I unpacked a package with tar to fix a bug in vsftpd .pre-install script then packed again with tar do I need to add its checksum or sign it somehow before packing again is it in the wiki want to see if the bug is fixed before reporting the bug/fix 2014-05-21 07:36:09 zxd: you dont have a build enviroment? 2014-05-21 07:38:19 with abuild git tree? 2014-05-21 07:38:24 asoure 2014-05-21 07:38:53 btw, I tried registering to bugs.alpine ... haven't recieved mail to gmail 2014-05-21 07:38:56 the confirmation 2014-05-21 07:46:52 zxd: you can use our new github mirror and create a pr. 2014-05-21 07:47:42 zxd: https://github.com/alpinelinux/aports 2014-05-21 07:48:42 fork it -> clone it -> create branch -> commit what you think is right -> create pull request (pr) -> we review it 2014-05-21 07:51:36 k 2014-05-21 08:21:47 clandmeter: how do I do a pull request after commit in git 2014-05-21 08:22:09 from your branch in github 2014-05-21 08:22:49 sec 2014-05-21 08:22:52 https://help.github.com/articles/creating-a-pull-request 2014-05-21 08:23:35 does it matter when I clone from i got it here git clone git://dev.alpinelinux.org/aports 2014-05-21 08:49:54 if you want to make a pr you need to have an github account and have your aports there. forking is cheapest. 2014-05-21 09:15:02 clandmeter showed me nice trick: git format-patch -1 and then cat 0001* |sprunge . If you dont have sprunge install it with apk add sprunge. (but you need to setup 2014-05-21 09:15:02 .git/config file egg email adres and username) 2014-05-21 09:15:18 zxd like clandmeter wrote, clone it -> create branch -> commit and send a patch, clandmeter showed me nice trick also : clandmeter showed me nice trick: git format-patch -1 and then cat 0001* |sprunge 2014-05-21 09:15:30 ignore first two lines, third is ok 2014-05-21 09:16:11 github's PR system is nice. 2014-05-21 09:16:23 easier to review and comment. 2014-05-21 09:17:35 clandmeter sure it is :) 2014-05-21 09:18:04 most people have a github acc. 2014-05-21 09:18:21 i do to, but other way arround is also nice to know :D 2014-05-21 09:29:39 I am trying to compile up to date wifi drivers from https://backports.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Documentation 2014-05-21 09:30:29 I get this error 2014-05-21 09:30:31 http://pastebin.com/nanmJ1Va 2014-05-21 09:30:52 maybe it wasn't designed to work with ulibc libs ? 2014-05-21 09:30:55 apk add gettext-dev? 2014-05-21 09:31:19 it's there 2014-05-21 09:31:30 installed 2014-05-21 09:37:30 add -lintl to linker flags 2014-05-21 09:44:31 where 2014-05-21 09:44:33 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/backports/2014/04/17/backports-20140417.tar.xz 2014-05-21 09:44:43 looking for it in the Makefiles 2014-05-21 09:48:03 found it 2014-05-21 09:48:12 kconf/Makefile:mconf: LDFLAGS = -Wl,--no-as-needed $(shell ./lxdialog/check-lxdialog.sh -ldflags $(CC)) 2014-05-21 09:49:14 it works, thanks 2014-05-21 09:50:35 what does it mean intl 2014-05-21 09:59:20 google gives me: http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/FAQ.html#integrating_undefined 2014-05-21 10:06:57 its kernel build? 2014-05-21 10:07:13 sounds like something was built with gettext installed that should not 2014-05-21 10:07:18 try remove gettext-dev 2014-05-21 10:13:14 ncopa: it's like kernel-build it's backported drivers from latest kernel 2014-05-21 10:13:24 ncopa: do I need ulibc-dev or something instead of glib 2014-05-21 10:14:25 not related I guess 2014-05-21 10:47:29 does anyone know how to tell the module ver that is currently loaded 2014-05-21 10:47:37 I want to tell if it loaded the correct modules 2014-05-21 10:49:50 modinfo module ? 2014-05-21 10:51:07 yes but it dosent show if it's loaded 2014-05-21 10:52:20 lsmod list loaded module i think 2014-05-21 11:04:57 I read somewhere modules in updates directory get loaded first 2014-05-21 11:05:33 brb 2014-05-21 11:51:42 hi 2014-05-21 11:51:53 in what package is the non busybox depmod command 2014-05-21 11:52:19 kmod? 2014-05-21 11:53:02 oh 2014-05-21 11:53:23 not there 2014-05-21 11:53:52 module-init-tools? 2014-05-21 11:55:23 no package of that name 2014-05-21 11:56:01 but kmod works if I set depmod symlink to it 2014-05-21 12:24:15 does alpine-linux have a depmod.conf or similar to select which paths or modules to be loaded first 2014-05-21 12:27:48 dunno 2014-05-21 12:28:13 there is support for /etc/modprobe.d/* 2014-05-21 12:43:24 yes! 2014-05-21 12:58:03 \o/ 2014-05-21 14:24:08 tbh, it should be called muslc 2014-05-21 14:24:18 pronounced like muscles 2014-05-21 15:01:29 does anyone know about crda package in alpine-linux 2014-05-21 15:01:48 I am installing some backported wifi drivers and they keep mentioning to use crda agent 2014-05-21 18:31:47 Hello all, I am using vserver and installing with "sys", when I do an update/upgrade with testing enabled, apk segfaults. 2014-05-21 18:32:02 hi 2014-05-21 18:32:15 *testing repo 2014-05-21 18:32:43 which repo? 2014-05-21 18:32:47 2.7 or edge? 2014-05-21 18:32:51 edge 2014-05-21 18:33:16 ok so you are upgrading from uclbic to musl? 2014-05-21 18:33:25 I suppose so. 2014-05-21 18:33:40 well, if you dont know, then thats problably your issue 2014-05-21 18:33:58 you need apk static and probably busybox 2014-05-21 18:34:01 static 2014-05-21 18:34:17 http://alpinelinux.org/edge-musl 2014-05-21 18:34:18 This is my first foray into alpine, 2014-05-21 18:34:38 so this is a clean install? 2014-05-21 18:34:42 Is there a good musl iso I can download? 2014-05-21 18:34:43 Yes. 2014-05-21 18:34:52 where did you get the iso? 2014-05-21 18:35:05 its better to use the latest edge is, its based on musl. 2014-05-21 18:35:15 alpinelinux.org/downloads 2014-05-21 18:35:26 alpine-vserver-2.7.8-x86.iso 2014-05-21 18:35:47 http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/releases/x86_64/alpine-edge-140515-x86_64.iso 2014-05-21 18:35:55 oh you use the vserver iso 2014-05-21 18:36:16 any reason not to use lxc? 2014-05-21 18:36:31 we discontiued vserver support. 2014-05-21 18:36:36 in favor of lxc. 2014-05-21 18:36:48 you can use vserver for 2.7 branch though 2014-05-21 18:36:56 Simply that I don't want to reinstall on the host to use this. 2014-05-21 18:37:12 And I don't think I enabled lxc on the host initially. 2014-05-21 18:37:27 Ok, I was just hoping for python virtualenv, 2014-05-21 18:37:44 which I think is not in the 2.7 repository it looked like. 2014-05-21 18:37:47 i thiought you said this is a new install? 2014-05-21 18:38:17 Installing new vserver alpine as guest on another distro as host. 2014-05-21 18:38:27 qemu host 2014-05-21 18:38:33 clandmeter: I had asked this: 'anyone know how to fix this in edge? "Error relocating /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5: __fputc_unlocked: symbol not found"', then you asked what I was doing to which I replied that I was trying to open vim. 2014-05-21 18:39:05 i thiought you said this is a new install? 2014-05-21 18:39:10 lol 2014-05-21 18:39:13 wrong button 2014-05-21 18:39:36 xaocon: are you mixing repo's? 2014-05-21 18:40:10 npcomp: if you want to run edge or musl, its better to use lxc. 2014-05-21 18:40:29 Yeah, 2014-05-21 18:40:31 Ok. 2014-05-21 18:40:33 No worries. 2014-05-21 18:40:49 I need to maybe think about this more. 2014-05-21 18:40:50 else just dont upgrade your 2.7 to edge and you will be fine. 2014-05-21 18:41:52 any of our newer iso's supports lxc out of the box (mainline) 2014-05-21 18:42:00 Thanks for the tip! If vserver is deprecated, maybe remove it from the downloads page and add a note? 2014-05-21 18:42:28 its not deprecated for 2.7 2014-05-21 18:42:36 and 2.7 isnt deprecated 2014-05-21 18:42:54 i think it will be maintained for few years. 2014-05-21 18:43:01 and has backports 2014-05-21 18:43:02 When you say "support lxc," you mean lxc for host or guest or both? 2014-05-21 18:43:14 both 2014-05-21 18:43:32 there is a howto on our wiki for lxc 2014-05-21 18:43:45 I'm running it on our infra 2014-05-21 18:44:29 running alpine lxc from ram and mount var on our disks with btrfs 2014-05-21 18:45:06 networks support in lxc is also nicer 2014-05-21 18:45:24 clandmeter: know if any thoughts on supporting python3? 2014-05-21 18:46:29 we have python3 right? 2014-05-21 18:47:09 its in testing afaik 2014-05-21 18:47:23 i dont do much python myself, so im probably not that best person to ask. 2014-05-21 18:47:27 Yeah, that's what it looks like, 2014-05-21 18:47:29 No worries. 2014-05-21 18:47:52 no, or at least I'm pretty sure about that. I just did an upgrade that seems to have fixed things though. 2014-05-21 18:48:17 clandmeter: thanks for the assistance! ttyl 2014-05-22 06:56:47 moin 2014-05-24 15:28:20 is it possible to use wireless drivers compiled on a x86_64 machine on different architeture running same kernel ver but different archtiture like mips? 2014-05-24 15:31:45 *if* you have everything in place for crosscompilation you can crosscompile drivers that work, but you can't just take drivers from one architecture and run them on another 2014-05-24 15:37:27 ah I thought maybe drivers were independent of achritecture 2014-05-24 15:37:35 only the kernel dunno 2014-05-24 15:37:40 wireless drivers 2014-05-26 08:58:36 what does -lintl flag do to cc 2014-05-26 08:58:42 hi 2014-05-26 09:00:29 link to gettext? 2014-05-26 10:42:25 alpine-linux is gentoo correct? 2014-05-26 10:42:33 derived from gentoo ? 2014-05-26 10:42:50 is it still based on newer releases of gentoo? 2014-05-26 10:50:16 zxd: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux#History 2014-05-26 13:12:14 alpine 1.0 -> 1.8 was built with gentoo 2014-05-26 13:17:27 here is when we left gentoo: http://lists.alpinelinux.org/alpine-devel/0035.html 2014-05-26 13:22:26 first release without gentoo: http://lists.alpinelinux.org/alpine-devel/0732.html 2014-05-27 00:29:37 ummm 2014-05-27 00:29:54 i just tried flashcache with writeback instead of writethrough 2014-05-27 00:30:03 and it panics on access 2014-05-27 00:30:24 i'll try to fetch some output with netconsole tomorow 2014-05-27 00:40:49 http://hastebin.com/nedozuwifi.xml 2014-05-27 00:40:54 i love netconsole already 2014-05-27 02:24:23 HOLA HIJOSDE SU MAMA 2014-05-27 09:31:33 Can anybody help me to disable num lock on boot? 2014-05-27 09:31:53 isnt that done from bios? 2014-05-27 09:33:42 I just assumed it is something in alpine. Because other distros (arch, Slackware) boot with num lock disabled. 2014-05-27 09:34:07 I'll check the bios. 2014-05-27 09:36:08 Thank you. 2014-05-27 09:37:39 Now I'm questioning why do arch and Slackware have it disabled. 2014-05-27 09:39:22 i wonder how... 2014-05-27 09:39:30 it could be a kernel boot option or kernel config 2014-05-27 09:40:16 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Activating_Numlock_on_Bootup 2014-05-27 09:40:20 Fenume: do you use Xorg? 2014-05-27 09:41:22 I boot all to console. 2014-05-27 09:42:20 does /etc/init.d/numlock start at boot? 2014-05-27 09:42:46 then /etc/init.d/numlock seems to be what enables numlock 2014-05-27 09:43:01 well what is supposed to enable it at boot 2014-05-27 09:44:08 I just disabled num lock in bios and now it is disabled in alpine. 2014-05-27 09:44:25 As clandmeter suggested. 2014-05-27 09:45:14 I was just wondering why arch and Slackware have it disabled independent of my bios settings. 2014-05-27 09:48:30 I am really liking alpine. It seems to me that xen is preferred over KVM. I never worked with xen. Can you tell me which do you prefer and why? 2014-05-27 09:51:44 we have both xen and kvm support 2014-05-27 09:52:05 we have one of the xen devs on board 2014-05-27 09:54:40 both solution seem mature, so the choice is yours. 2014-05-27 10:05:56 I've been using Alpine inside qemu for a month now. A few days ago I've decided to install it and I am thinking to use it as my primary distro. If you have a xen devs I am really interested in trying it. 2014-05-27 10:06:28 Any suckless fans or plan9 fans among you? 2014-05-27 10:46:09 Fenume: i like plan9 but never even managed a fully working install to use for 2 days 2014-05-27 10:46:15 xen devs we have them! lol 2014-05-27 10:47:22 Fenume: is the 9grid thing still alive? 2014-05-27 10:48:41 lol Where do you keep them? 2014-05-27 10:49:08 Not really. Little to no activity. 2014-05-27 10:49:32 But I haven't messed with it for a while. 2014-05-27 10:49:39 pity, i always liked the idea of free cpu time + storage for everyone 2014-05-27 10:50:09 I am currently running 9front on my raspberry pi. 2014-05-27 10:50:16 royger is one but he's normally not here while he's working 2014-05-27 10:50:26 well, I guess that's me :) 2014-05-27 10:50:41 and kaniini packages many things i think 2014-05-27 10:50:52 yes I'm here while working (and while not working also) 2014-05-27 10:51:05 ;) 2014-05-27 10:51:33 Are there alpine images for RPI? 2014-05-27 10:52:33 My main purpose for 9front is actually SNES gaming. 2014-05-27 10:55:05 Fenume: yes we have one for rpi 2014-05-27 10:55:24 Fenume: http://dev.alpinelinux.org/~tteras/rpi-with-networking.tar 2014-05-27 10:55:32 extract it to sd and boot 2014-05-27 10:55:57 remove the entry from /etc/modules as it fails 2014-05-27 10:57:25 Thank you. I am beginning to like alpine more and more. Nice people. 2014-05-27 10:58:15 royger: Did I understand correctly? You work on 9front? 2014-05-27 10:58:42 Fenume: no, I work on Xen :) 2014-05-27 11:00:14 Sorry, my mistake. I will try it tonight. I have to go in a 10 minutes to a lecture. 2014-05-27 11:01:05 Wanna try to comvince me to use Xen instead KVM? 2014-05-27 11:11:42 hehehe, I think I'm too sleep deprived today, but I think it depends quite a lot on your use-case. If you just want to launch a couple of VM on your laptop/desktop KVM is probably much more convenient, on the other hand if you want to setup a virtualization server I would recommend Xen 2014-05-27 11:13:57 I definitely going to try it. AFK 2014-05-27 18:31:09 What PDF readers are available in the repos? 2014-05-27 18:31:50 I am trying to open a PDF with evince but it recognizes the wrong mime type. 2014-05-28 09:56:57 how safe is it to dd a whole flash drive to back it up and use it to install alpine? 2014-05-28 10:50:03 is it possible at all to use dd to transfer the iso to the stick? 2014-05-28 10:50:42 alla archlinux 2014-05-28 10:51:45 as in boot off it? 2014-05-28 10:51:45 yes 2014-05-28 10:52:42 dd from .iso to usb stick and boot? 2014-05-28 10:53:01 why isn't that mentioned in the wiki 2014-05-28 10:54:59 well a reboot will show! 2014-05-28 11:09:34 I guess he wont get back on that stick 2014-05-28 11:09:45 ncopa: i think we should mention our iso is non hybrid somwhere. 2014-05-28 11:11:09 yeah 2014-05-28 12:08:45 i ask that fev weeks ago :) 2014-05-28 12:48:55 i need some help here 2014-05-28 12:49:19 recent kernels have a bug that prevent my laptop's keyboard from working 2014-05-28 12:49:39 it supposedly doesnt affect usb keyboards but in my case it didnt work 2014-05-28 12:50:07 some people have located the commit that broke it and i have a now patch 2014-05-28 12:51:09 the thing is, i have to build my own kernel that will fit well in the install CD (USB in my case) 2014-05-28 12:51:36 it was an unpleasant surprise when alpine booted for the first time :( 2014-05-28 12:52:27 my current system is archlinux btw 2014-05-28 12:55:03 ACTION may be afk for a while but please do respond 2014-05-28 13:09:58 i have the impression that the CD kernel will be the one that will be copied to the hdd 2014-05-28 13:10:22 if so can a kernel not depending on an initramfs do? 2014-05-28 13:44:24 hm 2014-05-28 13:44:38 i think the kernel will need initramfs 2014-05-28 13:44:46 due to ext4 is not compiled into kernel 2014-05-28 13:46:04 i'd think that the simplet thing to do would be to copy the linux-grsec APKBUILD 2014-05-28 13:46:20 and tweak the config 2014-05-28 13:46:45 Anaphaxeton: do you have the exact patch/commit that fixes your issue? 2014-05-28 13:47:06 if its in upstream then I can apply it to the default kernel (unles it breaks other things) 2014-05-28 13:47:48 Anaphaxeton: could you please post a bug on bugs.a.o re your keyb issue and link to the relevant commits? 2014-05-28 15:08:52 ncopa, always prompt and helpful! 2014-05-28 15:09:32 i was planning to build a kernel that doesnt need an initramfs 2014-05-28 15:10:02 this "patch" is nothing more than a reversed part of the commit 2014-05-28 15:10:52 of course i can post it as a bug, but after all this time i ve lost my hope. i have 0 skills to fix it by writting a proper patch 2014-05-28 15:12:13 kernel devs seem clueless and the issue affects a small minority of laptops. mainly LG i think7 2014-05-28 15:13:15 ACTION has to learn how the CD starts up and play :D 2014-05-28 15:27:29 giving a second look at the patch it doesn't look so terrifying 2014-05-28 15:51:35 sme guy has made something... 2014-05-28 15:51:43 *some 2014-05-28 16:03:51 ok ncopa , they will add a fix in 3.15. it doesnt include my specific model but it is there at last 2014-05-28 16:04:13 it is almost a year old bug... 2014-05-28 17:23:12 ncopa: i filed a bug in the kernel. it will be an easy fix. i hope you adopt 3.15 soon! 2014-05-29 11:32:06 @Mp5shooter - Hello, did you get dnscrypt working in the end? If not, want me to try testing? Is it 'dnscrypt-proxy' package in testing repo? 2014-05-29 11:36:44 well i fail at the first hurdle anyhow: 2014-05-29 11:36:59 #setup-dnscrypt 2014-05-29 11:37:16 Retrieving current list of free DNS Resolvers 2014-05-29 11:37:48 ERROR: could not contact blah blah... 2014-05-29 11:38:38 interestingly I now also have coloured prompt! 2014-05-29 11:41:20 ok so got curl and ran the setup-dnsproxy script 2014-05-29 11:42:44 dnscrypt-proxy fails to start withL 2014-05-29 11:43:41 same for lines 8 and 9 2014-05-29 11:44:34 "/lib/rc/sh/runscript.sh: /etc/init.d../conf.d/dnscrypt-proxy: line 7: can't open td: no such file" 2014-05-29 11:45:27 so yeah, no joy here 2014-05-29 11:52:05 i guess curl should be made a dependency of the dnscrypt-proxy package? 2014-05-29 11:52:25 as a start anyway 2014-05-29 11:52:54 dunno anything about the "can't open td" errors 2014-05-29 12:01:21 BitL0G1c: seems like dnscrypt-proxy is broke ^^^ 2014-05-29 12:03:56 sadly it is looking that way :'( 2014-05-29 12:18:50 I don't recall mp5shooter mentioning those errors though....i think he had some other issue - it sounded as if it couldn't contact the server he had chosen 2014-05-29 12:23:33 i'll try again from a fresh install in case I nerfed something 2014-05-29 12:25:54 @ncopa - thanks for fixing the alpine mirror issue. 3.0 rc2 doesn't have the problem with the setup-apkrepos i had before 2014-05-29 12:26:31 good :) 2014-05-29 12:26:39 i am having issues with rc2 in qemu 2014-05-29 12:26:42 dunno why 2014-05-29 12:27:10 what's happening? 2014-05-29 12:27:12 it seems like the vm crashes when network is starting 2014-05-29 12:27:16 i dunno why 2014-05-29 12:27:36 ooooh that's not good 2014-05-29 12:28:10 hm 2014-05-29 12:28:30 it could be the problem is on the host 2014-05-29 12:28:45 it does sound more like a host problem 2014-05-29 12:28:50 I've not used qemu 2014-05-29 12:29:01 usually vmware or virtualbox 2014-05-29 12:29:09 i use qemu in virt-manager on my alpine-edge desktop 2014-05-29 12:29:22 but it seems like alpine 2.7 boots up just ince.. 2014-05-29 12:29:23 strange 2014-05-29 12:29:31 ok, i'll reboot the host 2014-05-29 12:29:33 just in case 2014-05-29 12:29:35 btb 2014-05-29 12:29:37 brb 2014-05-29 12:29:41 could be new kernel? 2014-05-29 12:29:47 it could 2014-05-29 12:29:52 3.14.5 is getting a bunch of networking fixing 2014-05-29 12:29:56 aha 2014-05-29 12:30:03 i'm rebooting anyways 2014-05-29 12:30:06 it had 30-50 net/ fixes 2014-05-29 12:37:05 hmm, anyone else tried 3.0 rc2? I seem to get an issue with sys install.....boots to syslinux, then 'WARNING: No configuration file found' and leaves me at "boot:" prompt 2014-05-29 12:43:08 just running same on rc1 again 2014-05-29 12:43:12 i am trying it now... 2014-05-29 12:43:40 there is a bug with virtio NIC driver i think 2014-05-29 12:43:41 seems rc2 was missing the 'xxxx blocks' bit where i guess it writes syslinux config? 2014-05-29 12:44:40 hm 2014-05-29 12:44:43 indeed 2014-05-29 12:44:45 so rc1 works? 2014-05-29 12:44:49 yes 2014-05-29 12:44:58 rc2 just does not boot after sys install 2014-05-29 12:45:06 correct 2014-05-29 12:45:16 i guess syslinux not installed? 2014-05-29 12:45:26 or config file not written at least 2014-05-29 12:45:34 i think syslinux is installed 2014-05-29 12:45:42 but apparently the config is not 2014-05-29 12:45:51 or the config gets installed in unexpected location 2014-05-29 12:45:54 weird 2014-05-29 12:46:03 yes that would fit the errror 2014-05-29 12:46:19 syslinux must install because it reaches the syslinux prompt (if i can call it that) 2014-05-29 12:48:50 on a different note, tried dnscrypt proxy again on fresh 3.0 (rc1) install, got same errors about "can't open td" 2014-05-29 12:49:47 i think dnscrypt-proxy code is rotten (sorry...) 2014-05-29 12:49:51 ok 2014-05-29 12:49:57 it's ok, that's what testing is for! 2014-05-29 12:50:18 looks like the apk add part in rc2 is totally broken 2014-05-29 12:50:20 i wonder why 2014-05-29 12:50:35 oh :( 2014-05-29 12:50:50 for people using rpi with alpine, new image available thanks to fabled: http://dev.alpinelinux.org/~tteras/alpine-edge-140529-armhf.rpi.tar.gz 2014-05-29 12:51:36 hm 2014-05-29 12:51:41 it could be lbu thats broke... 2014-05-29 12:56:17 I'm not confident i can help with that I'm afraid. Let's say my coding is at a 'novice' level :) 2014-05-29 12:56:28 i'm glad you help with testing 2014-05-29 12:56:44 its actually good that non-coders does the testing... 2014-05-29 12:56:46 hm 2014-05-29 12:57:01 I try. Fortunately today is quiet, apparently it's a bank holiday in France and Germany 2014-05-29 12:57:11 i wonder if it is apk-tools thats broken with rc2? 2014-05-29 12:57:35 nothing gets installed in the root created by setup-disk 2014-05-29 12:58:37 ah 2014-05-29 12:58:40 i think i know what it is 2014-05-29 12:58:56 its the setup-apkrepos thingy :-/ 2014-05-29 13:00:12 hello! 2014-05-29 13:00:16 hi 2014-05-29 13:01:07 i filed a bug, it's easy to resolve and i expect 3.15.0 will work for this laptop 2014-05-29 13:01:25 nice 2014-05-29 13:01:38 in the meantime when i return to Athens i will try edge in a vm 2014-05-29 13:01:53 so you have a commit that fixes the issue? 2014-05-29 13:02:06 the commit that went to 3.15 2014-05-29 13:02:12 it is unresolved because a dev misunderstood 2014-05-29 13:02:20 it is just to entries in a struct 2014-05-29 13:02:30 two* 2014-05-29 13:02:34 if the patch is trivial i can backport it 2014-05-29 13:02:38 sounds like i can backport it 2014-05-29 13:02:47 if you have the exact commit that is 2014-05-29 13:02:57 sounds like it should got to -stable too 2014-05-29 13:03:10 (so we get it with 3.14.y) 2014-05-29 13:03:40 do you have a link to the but you filed? 2014-05-29 13:03:46 or a link to the fixing commit? 2014-05-29 13:03:47 they applied the fix in 3.15 but dont have my model in the list. so i suppose it is reallysimple now 2014-05-29 13:03:51 wait 2014-05-29 13:05:25 this is the report https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77051 2014-05-29 13:05:29 let me find the commit 2014-05-29 13:08:06 https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/drivers/input/keyboard/atkbd.c?id=3d725caa9dcc78c3dc9e7ea0c04f626468edd9c9 2014-05-29 13:08:36 Anaphaxeton, it's Cc'd to -stable so it goes to 3.14.y automatically 2014-05-29 13:09:17 that particular commit doesnt contain a match for my laptop 2014-05-29 13:09:55 so i provided my dmi data and wait for an update :) 2014-05-29 13:11:52 you might want to reference that commit in the bug 2014-05-29 13:12:03 if you are sure it's just adding the same quirk for your laptop 2014-05-29 13:13:16 i am absolutely sure 2014-05-29 13:13:21 i will do as you said 2014-05-29 13:13:24 thanks 2014-05-29 13:15:19 Here's a completely unrelated question and low priority question: Currently, when you do 'exit' from the command prompt, you get logged out, but the screen content stays. Is it possible to make 'exit' behave as if 'clear && exit' had been run? To help prevent shoulder surfing :) 2014-05-29 13:16:28 alias exit="clear && exit" ? 2014-05-29 13:17:31 or add the clear screen escape code to /etc/issue | motd 2014-05-29 13:17:41 mmm... to etc/issue 2014-05-29 13:22:04 is it worth me raising a feature request for that, or am I just being picky? 2014-05-29 13:22:48 i think that'd be local modification 2014-05-29 13:23:08 the command to clear screen using ansi sequence is echo -en "\x1b[2J\x1b[1;1H" 2014-05-29 13:23:20 you could prefix that to etc/issue 2014-05-29 13:23:27 and that'd probably fix your terminal issue 2014-05-29 13:24:12 or ncopa do you think we should add the above to default issue? 2014-05-29 13:24:22 yes, I shall add that locally. But is it worth me suggesting it as a default behaviour 2014-05-29 13:25:26 nah... 2014-05-29 13:25:34 i dont think i want that in default 2014-05-29 13:25:42 unless there are good reasons to do so 2014-05-29 13:26:17 it helps with debugging if its not cleared 2014-05-29 13:26:37 cool, I shall refrain from raising a feature request :) 2014-05-29 13:27:04 i am open for good counter arguments 2014-05-29 13:27:14 i'd hate it 2014-05-29 13:27:26 my only counter-argument is to prevent shoulder-surfing 2014-05-29 13:27:26 you could suggest on ml if you feel strong for it 2014-05-29 13:27:29 ok 2014-05-29 13:27:39 and I can see I'm outvoted! :D 2014-05-29 13:27:40 i think it will make life harder for most ppl 2014-05-29 13:27:44 yeah :) 2014-05-29 13:27:49 if i need a piece of info from server a i'll go there, log out, use it on where i was, but if it clears scren, i'll put it somehwere, in a sticky note, and then it's even more visibile 2014-05-29 13:28:16 i check what i have left there and ctrl-l if i don't need the output 2014-05-29 13:28:44 it's manual, and i can see it's not ok if it's a more hostile env 2014-05-29 13:29:46 but i think its definitively worth documenting it 2014-05-29 13:29:48 in wiki or so 2014-05-29 13:29:53 maybe in faq? 2014-05-29 13:30:01 2how do i clear the screen automatically on exit?" 2014-05-29 13:30:42 or make a security topic, there's a few things 2014-05-29 13:30:51 i.e. autologout or removing hostname from prompts 2014-05-29 13:31:01 yeah 2014-05-29 13:31:15 hardening topic or so 2014-05-29 13:31:16 ensuring enough burgers for the admin team 2014-05-29 13:31:22 lol 2014-05-29 13:31:25 lol 2014-05-29 13:33:59 ok so I guess my next (noob) question is, where can I change ash alias's (if at all)? 2014-05-29 13:34:24 was expecting something along the lines of the bashrc file, but I don't seeit 2014-05-29 13:38:07 set aliases in ~/.profile 2014-05-29 13:40:38 the only alias I couldn't make work is to do an 'ls' after each cd (as there is no "builtin" command in ash - but instead I just use function of 'c' in ~/.profile to cd & do an ls 2014-05-29 13:42:26 BitL0G1c, thank you :) 2014-05-29 13:43:50 ;-) 2014-05-29 13:44:59 # Automatically do an ls after each cd 2014-05-29 13:44:59 c() { 2014-05-29 13:44:59 if [ -n "$1" ]; then 2014-05-29 13:44:59 cd "$@" && ls 2014-05-29 13:44:59 else 2014-05-29 13:44:59 cd ~ && ls 2014-05-29 13:44:59 fi 2014-05-29 13:45:00 } 2014-05-29 13:50:05 I have my aliases setup before the function including 'alias ls='ls -a'' 2014-05-29 14:00:19 that is quite simply awesome 2014-05-29 14:02:08 saves a lot of typing - now I just 'l' & 'c' 2014-05-29 14:02:08 ginjachris: nope never got dnscrypt-proxy working 2014-05-29 14:02:39 that was because of your external firewall 2014-05-29 14:02:56 they added the rules for me but it still wasn't working 2014-05-29 14:03:22 yeah i tried earlier, I think it needs revisiting (in the code) 2014-05-29 14:04:41 i have dnscrypt working on a kvm vps / lxc container / openvz container 2014-05-29 14:04:54 hm 2014-05-29 14:04:57 are they on musl edge? 2014-05-29 14:05:13 maybe it's musl 2014-05-29 14:05:21 yes in testing 2014-05-29 14:05:25 oh 2014-05-29 14:05:26 mm 2014-05-29 14:05:41 i'm still on uclibc - will try it in my musl lxc 2014-05-29 14:06:01 ok 2014-05-29 14:09:09 yeah I tried musl earlier 2014-05-29 14:12:36 it's a problem on musl: 2014-05-29 14:12:38 musl daemon.err /etc/init.d/dnscrypt-proxy[455]: dnscrypt-proxy: error loading /etc/init.d/../conf.d/dnscrypt-proxy 2014-05-29 14:13:52 setup-dnscrypt is also broken - musl includes 's in the server table (uclibc does not) 2014-05-29 14:15:01 that's exactly what I saw earlier 2014-05-29 14:15:49 Well almost: "/lib/rc/sh/runscript.sh: /etc/init.d../conf.d/dnscrypt-proxy: line 7: can't open td: no such file" 2014-05-29 14:16:04 yeah same thing lol. Can't read properly today 2014-05-29 14:27:09 what package provides setup-dnscrypt? 2014-05-29 14:28:21 dnscrypt-proxy 2014-05-29 14:30:09 glad it's not just me :P 2014-05-29 14:33:03 could you guys please file a bug on bugs.a.o? 2014-05-29 14:33:12 thanks 2014-05-29 14:36:01 changing the shell to bash fixes the wrong path for /etc/conf.d/dnscrypt-proxy 2014-05-29 14:36:27 but 'checkpath' does not work so dnscrypt does not start 2014-05-29 14:36:39 will post a bug 2014-05-29 14:38:44 thanks BitL0G1c 2014-05-29 14:39:18 I just saw the mail about 3.0 RC3 coming out - is the syslinux issue sorted? 2014-05-29 14:39:26 I guess that's for @ncopa 2014-05-29 14:40:16 this http://tinyurl.com/osvyzdv went in before the rc3 spin 2014-05-29 14:40:27 that should probably fix it 2014-05-29 14:41:09 awesome, thanks! 2014-05-29 14:41:39 I'll *try* to get an install on hardware done in the next few days 2014-05-29 14:46:18 yes the "syslinux" issue should be fixed 2014-05-29 14:46:23 it was not really syslinux that was the problem 2014-05-29 14:46:35 it was my setup-apktrepos thingy + possibly a bug in apk-tools 2014-05-29 14:48:04 coolio, I'll give rc3 a try, tomorrow hopefully 2014-05-29 14:51:01 Right, time for shameless self-advertising; if anyone needs an alternate DNS server, I have one running at 5.2.16.39. Whilst it doesn't run dnscrypt, it doesn't collect logs either, and seems to be relatively quick from the tests I've done (it's based in the UK, south coast). Feel free to use it if it is of use! 2014-05-29 15:11:27 lol, that killed the conversation. Maybe that's why I am not invited to parties much? 2014-05-29 15:11:46 In addition to working in IT sec of course, which bores most people to tears! 2014-05-29 15:15:20 :) 2014-05-29 15:15:55 i think i'm leavning for today 2014-05-29 15:15:57 have a nice evening 2014-05-29 15:16:05 you too! 2014-05-29 15:19:36 @ginjachris / @Mp5shooter - here is how you make dnscrypt-proxy work on MUSL 2014-05-29 15:19:55 apk add bash 2014-05-29 15:20:23 edit /etc/passwd & correct the setting for dnscrypt https://bugs.alpinelinux.org/issues/2971 2014-05-29 15:21:04 & change the shell for root to /bin/bash (from /bin/ash) 2014-05-29 15:22:18 I'll see if I can find out why setup-dnscrypt includes the that uclibc doesn't 2014-05-29 15:23:39 but with those changes dnscrypt will start - just set 'nameserver 127.0.0.1' in /etc/resolv.conf 2014-05-29 15:23:52 thanks, I'll see if I can give that a go tomorrow - work is getting in the way right now :( 2014-05-29 15:31:29 I'm afraid I must depart for the day. Have a great evening everyone! 2014-05-29 15:42:25 @ginjachris / @Mp5shooter - to fix /sbin/setup-dnscrypt add to line 239: 2014-05-29 15:42:44 #remove stray under MUSL C 2014-05-29 15:42:44 sed -i "s/^//g" $output 2014-05-29 23:57:00 alpine rocks, just needed to say 2014-05-30 00:04:47 great, thanks BitL0G1c 2014-05-30 00:04:53 yeah darkfader it does :D 2014-05-30 00:15:08 maybe when i have a sunny day i'll do some openrc patching 2014-05-30 00:15:09 xen44:/etc/apache2/conf.d# /etc/init.d/apache2 restart * WARNING: apache2 is already starting 2014-05-30 00:15:12 xen44:/etc/apache2/conf.d# /etc/init.d/apache2 stop * ERROR: apache2 stopped by something else 2014-05-30 00:15:17 (it's broken, stupid!) 2014-05-30 00:16:48 there should be a law that noone that didn't read up about state machines is allowed to write init systems 2014-05-30 00:24:10 http://piratepad.net/02P1lNJXvR anyone around who can help me with that APKBUILD? 2014-05-30 00:24:51 meh the formatting is bad, i'll put it somewhere else 2014-05-30 00:25:27 http://www.hastebin.com/qiluwubiwu.avrasm 2014-05-30 02:03:14 darkfader: I think that should apply to all code 2014-05-30 12:31:29 goodmorning 2014-05-30 12:31:53 i isolated a dew lines of code that solve my LG keyboard problem 2014-05-30 12:33:08 if you want to add it to the backported callback in atkbd.c it is here https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77051 2014-05-30 12:33:35 that simple! 2014-05-30 12:44:23 i would love to install edge outside a VM tomorrow if possible! 2014-05-30 12:46:07 the switch to musl made me a good impression. those guys are maniacs about compliance and correctness. last summer i was trying to build an LFS with musl instead of glibc. never finished it, but i managed to obtain an Ada capable toolchain :) 2014-05-30 12:47:33 i wanted to apply pax/grsec too and maybe try to combine them with tomoyo as a gentoo fellow suggested 2014-05-30 12:48:17 but now that i see the platform is already done my you, i dont think i should bother again 2014-05-30 12:48:45 s/my/by 2014-05-30 13:06:24 i thought tomoyo was already in the kernel? 2014-05-30 13:06:50 I cld certainly be wrong though, I am certainly not an expert in that area 2014-05-30 14:13:09 it is inside yes 2014-05-30 14:41:54 should git depend on perl? a great deal of it's core functionality needs it. 2014-05-30 14:46:24 xaocon: git is splitted into subpkgs 2014-05-30 14:46:38 the ones that need it will pull git in. 2014-05-30 14:47:06 pull perl in.. 2014-05-30 15:00:21 clandmeter: well it seems the submodule requires it as well 2014-05-30 21:54:43 redis is now in the main repo, right? Is there any reason why apk wouldn't see it? I previously had installed redis manually, but just rm'd it. 2014-05-30 22:34:25 ncopa ping 2014-05-31 08:37:40 goodmorning! 2014-05-31 12:01:29 hi 2014-05-31 12:19:57 any idea how to get fglrx-14.10.1006.1001 propetary driver to install in alpine