2014-01-01 13:48:06 does the user have to commit the backup changes if they installed it to the disk? 2014-01-01 14:02:45 edge226, you mean standard install? 2014-01-01 14:03:23 happy new year to all 2014-01-01 14:03:26 freedomrun: yeah. I suppose it could be called that. 2014-01-01 14:03:30 freedomrun: you too. 2014-01-01 14:05:41 edge226, not shure about what backup you mean but I do a full snapshot here and then 2014-01-01 14:08:02 freedomrun: the lbu stuff. 2014-01-01 14:09:31 edge226, not needed on standard/full/disk install 2014-01-01 14:13:48 freedomrun: k cool, alpine is pretty impressive. 2014-01-01 14:13:57 yes it is 2014-01-01 14:14:28 it seems the distro's that are teh most impressive use tarballs lol 2014-01-01 14:27:17 the most impressive is the resource ussage on installed system with great security 2014-01-01 14:32:09 I've never run Alpine as a live distro with backed up configs... I just always install it 2014-01-01 15:25:38 Hi, to try udev on alpinelinux is this enough : apk add udev && rc-update add udev sysinit && rc-update del mdev ? 2014-01-01 15:45:32 seems it is ;) not this need to be 'apk add udev && rc-update add udev sysinit && rc-update del mdev sysinit' 2014-01-01 22:55:07 n8 2014-01-02 18:44:20 did someone have something like this while using alpine? 'ftdi_sio ttyUSB1: failed to get modem status: -110' 2014-01-02 18:44:55 i dont see nothing else in dmesg about that 2014-01-02 18:45:42 have anyone tried usbip on alpine? 2014-01-02 18:46:13 http://usbip.sourceforge.net/ 2014-01-02 18:50:55 How to convert this busybox dmesg entry to normal time value? ' [59127.184525] ftdi_sio ttyUSB1: failed to get modem status: -110 ' 2014-01-02 18:51:36 I believe it's seconds since boot 2014-01-02 19:04:21 utils.c:38:2: error: implicit declaration of function 'strnlen' [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration] if (strnlen(busid, SYSFS_BUS_ID_SIZE) > SYSFS_BUS_ID_SIZE - 1) { ^ 2014-01-02 19:04:24 cc1: all warnings being treated as errors 2014-01-02 19:05:05 this is what I get when I try to make the userspace utils after doing ./autogen.sh 2014-01-02 19:15:01 jzono1: likely misses _GNU_SOURCE or the likes that enable the strnlen prototype in string.h 2014-01-03 11:34:19 moin 2014-01-03 11:34:22 a question: 2014-01-03 11:34:28 how do i determine the current runlevel? 2014-01-03 11:34:38 seems there is no command "runlevel" on alpine!? 2014-01-03 11:40:29 StarWarsFan, it's openrc commands: rc-status -r 2014-01-03 11:40:45 aah, thx 2014-01-03 11:40:59 ACTION has to learn more about openrc... 2014-01-03 12:39:52 Is there any mirror status info? for example in main this package: gptfdisk is in this mirror http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/main/x86/ but not in this: http://mirror1.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/alpine/v2.7/main/x86/ <- which is going to be used here if i use 'f' while doing 'setup-alpine' 2014-01-03 12:51:14 crow, you're looking @2 different Alpine releases 2014-01-03 12:51:21 edge vs 2.7 2014-01-03 13:03:59 rnalrd ah thanks. 2014-01-03 18:15:43 Hi everyboby. I am an Alpine Linux newbie. I tried to install Alpine 2.7.2 on a Jetway NF9I-2550. I used an USB-Stick. Everthing was fine until 'Loading Device Drivers'. Then everything is blocked. I tried to install Ubuntu 12.10 LTS which boots correctly. An y hints how i can proceed? Thanks. 2014-01-03 18:19:43 I used the 64 bit release BTW. 2014-01-03 18:26:25 I tried to register for the forum but i do not the answer to the question 'What is our project name?'. Maybe i am not the smartest men on earth ;-). 2014-01-03 18:41:41 orca_: alpine? 2014-01-03 19:02:01 alpine is not the correct answer. 2014-01-03 20:25:49 "al perder la dignidad, identidad e integridad, es porque ya es tiempo de entregar nuestros deberes a otros poderes" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival* 2014-01-04 15:49:38 Can I have alpine on one disk and Windows 7 on the second without losing data on the Windows disk ? 2014-01-04 15:56:39 sure 2014-01-04 15:56:47 and for extra paranoia 2014-01-04 15:56:52 you can just unhook the windows 7 disk 2014-01-04 15:56:54 during the install 2014-01-04 15:56:57 :) 2014-01-04 15:57:26 oke, I want to try alpine as my desktop 2014-01-04 15:58:49 ick 2014-01-04 15:58:52 i wouldn't recommend it 2014-01-04 15:58:57 it's not for the faint of heart 2014-01-04 15:59:08 that situation may improve with alpine 3.x though 2014-01-04 15:59:15 I have read that 2014-01-04 15:59:43 I have tried many distros like gentoo, slackware , freebsd 2014-01-04 15:59:57 but maybe I have to look to another one 2014-01-04 16:11:01 anyone have a tip of a good modern distro for me ? 2014-01-04 16:13:39 personally I'd look carefully at wheter alpine could do the desktop stuff I do, and go back to the slightly more troublesome arch if it didn't 2014-01-04 16:14:40 arch is worth looking at if you liked gentoo. debian is still a solid choice. mint might do what you want. 2014-01-04 16:14:58 you probably need to say more about your needs to get helpfull distro picking advice though 2014-01-04 16:15:52 jzono1: I like gentoo and I did try arch but I also like to do some source things like try to pack a DE or another package 2014-01-04 16:16:46 for me a distro must be more then just install and update it 2014-01-04 16:36:48 jzono1: need more info ?? 2014-01-04 16:39:14 I thought Alpine has Gnome and I hope has firefox and Openoffice. I do not need more 2014-01-04 16:41:16 ACTION doesn't think openoffice is there 2014-01-04 16:41:20 FF yes 2014-01-04 16:41:25 gnome i think was done by kaniini 2014-01-04 16:41:35 i've only used XFCE though 2014-01-04 16:41:39 barebones but it works 2014-01-04 16:45:44 oke, thanks I will look what will be my next step 2014-01-04 16:46:03 have a good evening and byeee 2014-01-05 06:25:10 hey kaniini 2014-01-05 06:25:22 that ssl cert site added two zeroes to their prices 2014-01-05 06:25:24 to match the english page 2014-01-05 06:25:24 lol 2014-01-05 06:58:36 oh.. 2014-01-05 06:58:43 someone put it on lowendbox 2014-01-05 06:58:44 wow 2014-01-05 10:12:56 Mp5shooter: it's 5 years for $43 now 2014-01-05 10:13:18 Mp5shooter: still pretty good 2014-01-06 05:30:32 Morning 2014-01-06 06:50:43 shouldn't the "pip" tool for python be packaged as well? 2014-01-06 06:53:33 nvm, I dun derp xD 2014-01-06 11:22:10 kaniini: which ssl cert site? :) 2014-01-07 09:27:19 can i go on my web mail https with ? 2014-01-07 09:40:47 ncopa, do you think there is a simple solution to do something like ("disabling cd installation sources in apt-sources" in debian installer) at the end of install from alpine cd so it can save need for manualy editing sources after every install? 2014-01-07 09:44:04 freedomrun: you want remove /media/cdrom/apks from /etc/apk/repositories after harddisk install? 2014-01-07 09:44:10 from the script i mean 2014-01-07 09:44:25 or just disable 2014-01-07 09:44:33 yeah, sounds like a good idea 2014-01-07 09:44:37 :) 2014-01-07 09:44:39 and i think we should do that by default 2014-01-07 09:44:44 looks fancy 2014-01-07 09:44:58 care to file an issue on bugs.a.o? 2014-01-07 09:46:39 np ;) thnx 2014-01-07 09:47:06 *& thnx 2014-01-07 10:08:05 created issues 2540 2014-01-07 10:08:13 created issue 2540 2014-01-07 10:08:19 ah :) 2014-01-07 10:08:21 lol 2014-01-07 10:08:23 sorry 2014-01-07 10:18:44 good 2014-01-07 10:18:45 thanks 2014-01-07 17:44:26 hi 2014-01-07 17:44:37 an lxc question 2014-01-07 17:44:50 how do you handle different kernels for the containers? 2014-01-07 17:45:00 or how does alpine/lxc handle them? 2014-01-07 17:45:15 lets say, the host is 2.7_64 2014-01-07 17:45:29 and i want a container for 2.6 or edge 2014-01-07 17:45:39 what happens if i update the host? 2014-01-07 17:47:42 StarWarsFan, kernel runs on host only. containers do not run their own kernel. 2014-01-07 17:48:21 so it's impossible to use different kernels on the containers? 2014-01-07 17:49:06 because the container is just some sort of an "process" on the host? 2014-01-07 17:49:46 StarWarsFan, it's a "container". like in vserver. a dedicated kernel "namespace" for everything running it. 2014-01-07 17:49:54 it's not full virtualization 2014-01-07 17:50:05 that's why it's called a container - and not a guest os 2014-01-07 17:51:59 ok, thx 2014-01-07 22:27:30 n8@all 2014-01-08 21:44:39 n8@all 2014-01-10 18:44:48 royger: i just saw about your talk at fosdem 2014-01-10 18:45:08 one of the 3 i'd like to see ;) 2014-01-11 17:14:45 hello! i have one question 2014-01-11 17:15:09 does alpine boot from usb? 2014-01-11 17:35:45 Anaphaxeton: yes 2014-01-11 17:41:39 hey, what do I install to get gcc to work? 2014-01-11 17:41:40 cannot find Scrt1.o: No such file or directory 2014-01-11 17:43:34 that is a libc problem 2014-01-11 17:44:06 so do you know what I need to install? 2014-01-11 17:44:08 clandmeter, good, i hope it boots fast from it. 2014-01-11 17:44:18 surely it's just a package that needs installing 2014-01-11 17:44:18 Anaphaxeton: of course it does 2014-01-11 17:44:21 reinstall uclibc? sorry i am new here 2014-01-11 17:44:31 ambro718: apk add alpine-sdk 2014-01-11 17:44:55 clandmeter: what will this add? I don't want anything more than to get gcc working. 2014-01-11 17:47:45 hehe i obviously come from a distro that bundles everything with the main package 2014-01-11 17:47:56 (which is not good) 2014-01-11 17:48:16 ok so I installed alpine-sdk, looked at what it installed, removed it, then installed just libc-dev ;) 2014-01-11 17:48:17 thanks 2014-01-11 18:20:13 How do I fix the permissions of /dev/net/tun? 2014-01-11 18:20:30 I see that neither udev nor mdev are running... 2014-01-11 18:27:57 meh it's not the device node permissions, it still fails after chmod +rwx 2014-01-11 18:29:12 open("/dev/net/tun", O_RDWR) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) 2014-01-11 18:30:44 never mind apparently I can't use chmod 2014-01-11 19:30:01 does alpine work with gpt? 2014-01-11 19:31:27 i am willing to do some things manually :) 2014-01-11 20:02:39 sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 sysctl: error: `net.ipv4.ip_forward=1` is an unknown key 2014-01-11 20:02:40 whaaat 2014-01-11 20:02:53 even sysctl --help says this is valid syntax 2014-01-11 20:04:24 ambro718, -w missing 2014-01-11 20:05:06 oh, I see, thanks 2014-01-11 20:05:12 but it works on regular linux sysctl 2014-01-11 20:05:40 sounds busybox thing 2014-01-11 20:06:03 maybe sysctl used to require -w but was later changed (but bb version sticked to the old way) 2014-01-11 20:08:47 must be ancient history ;) 2014-01-11 20:15:34 well... http://linux.die.net/man/8/sysctl does still say that it needs -w 2014-01-11 20:30:18 "que veloz y en contravia se evapora nuestra vida, al mirar pasar la corriente desde la cima de un puente" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival* 2014-01-11 20:43:49 setup-disk tells me vfat is not supported, but i want /boot on vfat for efi support. any workarounds? 2014-01-11 20:44:10 i know i can simply copy the files 2014-01-11 20:44:31 but i am worried about maintainance 2014-01-11 20:45:00 doesnt alpine use an initramfs where the vfat module can reside? 2014-01-11 21:01:20 Has anyone gotten Docker running on alpine? 2014-01-11 21:16:05 how big can a vserver host become? 2014-01-12 11:38:13 Is there any old working version of nodejs for alpine? 2014-01-12 11:50:43 what's the proper way to enter dual-license licenses in APKBUILD files? 2014-01-12 11:52:55 what do I want in depend() for the runscript when the daemon provides net? 2014-01-12 11:54:07 (I'm creating packages for the infiniband userspace utilities. one of them, opensm - makes it possible to bring up the network interface after it's been started) 2014-01-12 12:04:25 O.o 2014-01-12 12:05:19 where do I start when pax stops something from working? http://pastie.org/8626136 2014-01-12 12:36:54 jzono1: check our wiki 2014-01-12 12:37:02 you can also check examples in our aports 2014-01-12 12:37:45 and for init, gentoo's are compatible (we often re-use them) 2014-01-12 12:50:56 I took a look at gentoos init stuff for it, it starts it after net, and has a custom class for the ofed packages 2014-01-12 19:07:15 hello 2014-01-12 19:07:47 i created a 32mb large /boot 2014-01-12 19:07:57 and setup-bootable complains 2014-01-12 19:08:29 what is the minimum size? 2014-01-13 07:56:24 Anaphaxeton maybe this can help you http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Installing_on_GPT_LVM 2014-01-13 17:50:56 So I made a smoothwall firewall because it was supposed to be easy to configure, I honestly think I am better off learning how to do it manually with Alpine though. 2014-01-13 17:53:03 maybe smoothwall 3.1 will be better than 3.0. Seems like 3.0 is bugged all the hell, it keeps resetting my time. How is Canada/Mountain 6pm right now... 2014-01-13 19:10:21 edge226: you're probably right. put in the effort to learn how to do it the old-fashioned way, or with a fancy tool - and setting up a firewall based on a regular distro ends up being a nice way to do it - especially for distros that are secure by default. 2014-01-13 19:10:54 custom iptables scripts are nice enough for simple setups, and tools like shorewall make complex setups more manageable 2014-01-13 19:12:31 edge226: did you give awall a try? 2014-01-13 19:12:43 jzono1: I think smoothwall is just making it more complex than it really has to be. I personally think the area that I lack in linux is the networking stuff. Been using linux for 14 years so far :) 2014-01-13 19:13:23 clandmeter: yeah, I really like it. It actually has sane package management. Which imho anything that uses .deb or .rpm does not have. 2014-01-13 19:20:05 edge226: you refer awall to package management? 2014-01-13 19:21:23 clandmeter: more or less the syntax of apk is sane. where as .deb and .rpm distro's usually use 3-5 tools to do 1 task. I like 1 tool for package management. 2014-01-13 19:22:18 .debs use apt-get apt-cache and dpkg. rpm's that use the urpm* toolset are insane, 5 tools for package management. 2014-01-13 19:23:13 the package creation is insane in those too, meta-data to deal with the meta-data that again needs meta-data to deal with that meta-data. 2014-01-13 19:23:44 where as if I understand correctly apk files are similar in structure to tarballs. 2014-01-13 19:24:00 ok, but i was talking about awall (alpine firewall management) 2014-01-13 19:24:42 clandmeter: oh, I have not really touched awall yet. 2014-01-13 19:25:18 clandmeter: but from the looks of the wiki it is well documented and should be quite usable. 2014-01-13 19:25:56 clandmeter: im a little slow atm, its 12:30 pm and I have not slept yet. 2014-01-14 05:24:43 What's the best way to install libpq-dev for psypopg2 used by python and SQLAlchemy? pip install fails because I'm missing header files for libpq. 2014-01-14 05:29:02 got it. package is postgresql-dev 2014-01-14 08:20:48 gm 2014-01-14 12:14:13 do you guys suggest initially setting up alpine with multiple nics in vbox or set up the nics later? 2014-01-14 12:22:24 edge226: dunno, i havent really used it in vbox 2014-01-14 12:36:45 ncopa: and what about if you were to do an install in a machine, would you prefer to make sure you have all nics installed first or would it matter to you? 2014-01-14 12:59:04 shouldnt matter really 2014-01-14 12:59:08 should not matter 2014-01-14 13:02:01 ncopa: kk ty 2014-01-14 13:02:18 nice I just noticed 2.7.3 is out right after I installed but before I really did any work :) 2014-01-14 13:05:30 edge226: version shouldnt matter. apk update && apk upgrade == 2.7.3 2014-01-14 13:05:50 clandmeter: ah so alpine is rolling release then :) 2014-01-14 13:06:37 clandmeter: have you ever tried freelan? 2014-01-14 13:07:04 no i dont know it. 2014-01-14 13:07:48 i guess its not in aports? 2014-01-14 13:08:16 clandmeter: it is similar to openvpn, I have not tried it yet but it sounds promising since its entirely browser based, Ill grab the url for you. I did not see it in apk search when I looked no. 2014-01-14 13:09:05 http://freelan.org/ 2014-01-14 13:09:50 being able to use it on any device with a browser seems like a really good idea to me. 2014-01-14 13:10:06 fabled is our vpn expert 2014-01-14 13:10:25 good to know. 2014-01-14 13:12:38 I think the best thing about alpine is that its got a decent channel that people actually respond to, I really dislike the time lag that forums have ;) 2014-01-14 13:12:58 was thinking maybe I'd use alpine on my chromebook once I get it setup for that. 2014-01-14 13:13:10 since its small. 2014-01-14 13:13:33 are you sure your gfx will work? 2014-01-14 13:13:47 clandmeter: its intel. 2014-01-14 13:14:09 what kind of intel? 2014-01-14 13:14:10 so it should not be an issue at all. 2014-01-14 13:15:16 let me take a look, the particular model I picked is supposed to have great linux support. I mean chrome OS is a modified gentoo afterall. 2014-01-14 13:16:09 that doesnt say anything 2014-01-14 13:16:35 if its a celeron with hd 4000 then its nice 2014-01-14 13:16:51 I think it is, just double checking. 2014-01-14 13:17:08 i dont think they ship anything faster then celeron/atom 2014-01-14 13:18:17 Unless its a Pixel then no, the pixel actually has an i5 in it. 2014-01-14 13:20:35 It doesnt seem to say on the intel site for the chip, I think I saw hd4000 some where in the system info when I was reading it over another day. 2014-01-14 13:20:54 which brand/version is it? 2014-01-14 13:21:39 acer C7 The one with the SSD. Not the C720 though. It is the later release of the C710 2014-01-14 13:22:04 Intel Celeron 2955U 2014-01-14 13:22:31 nope. Intel Celeron 1007U 2014-01-14 13:23:06 clandmeter: graphics are not neccessarily an issue because I am going to start out with a crouton chroot setup. 2014-01-14 13:23:35 Then later on maybe move to pure nix. 2014-01-14 13:24:21 Depends on if I find having both Chrome OS and Linux to be useful. There are some really nice things about chrome os. 2014-01-14 13:24:25 shuold probably be supported by intels driver 2014-01-14 13:24:57 from everything I researched before I purchased it there is very good linux support on this model. 2014-01-14 13:25:51 clandmeter: 2gb of ram was sort of meh, but I upgraded the ram the day I bought it to 6gb. 2014-01-14 13:26:24 2g is enough for alpine 2014-01-14 13:27:05 as for a low end notebook there was nothing even comparible in price even after deciding to upgrade the ram and SSD. Total price after upgrades: $350 2014-01-14 13:31:46 Normally I run manjaro and I might stick that on the chromebook, Not too sure yet, It depends on what I find I want to do with it over time. 2014-01-14 13:37:01 regardless of how much space requirements are needed on the chromebook I still want to upgrade the SSD so I can put some media on it and have access to 'some' stuff locally. 2014-01-14 13:40:05 chromebooks looks nice 2014-01-14 13:40:21 they dont sell too many of them in norway yet 2014-01-14 13:40:40 so i just bought a fujitsu lifebook 2014-01-14 13:40:44 also intelchip 2014-01-14 13:41:02 and it runs alpine linux with musl libc x86_64 2014-01-14 13:41:15 (under heavy development) 2014-01-14 13:42:43 ncopa: you cannot purchase from amazon.co.uk? 2014-01-14 13:43:03 need pay VAT then 2014-01-14 13:43:10 taxes 2014-01-14 13:43:12 in nl i can buy from uk and de 2014-01-14 13:43:20 norway is not in EU 2014-01-14 13:43:33 you should have voted yes ;-) 2014-01-14 13:44:04 "do you wish to vote no more in the future? yes/yes" :))) 2014-01-14 13:55:52 ah so this distro is pretty widespread as well, thats nice to hear. I am from Canada myself :) 2014-01-14 14:02:20 it is fairly widespread yes 2014-01-14 14:11:27 edge226: congrats on being the 2nd canadian I know to be an alpine user :) 2014-01-14 14:19:19 omg not another one... 2014-01-14 14:21:21 clandmeter: canadians aren't that bad :) 2014-01-14 14:21:39 :) 2014-01-14 14:31:24 if a typical canadian is like jbilyk 2014-01-14 14:31:33 then theyre pretty nice actually :) 2014-01-14 14:38:37 jbilyk__: what province you in? 2014-01-14 14:40:48 the reality is I use what fits my needs for a task, would I run pure alpine on my main machine. Doubtful, because I really like what I am using, but alpine is a great firewall/server distro or great for if you need something small. 2014-01-14 14:42:57 on my main machine I much enjoy the package depth that I have at my disposal, few distro's can beat something Arch based with AUR access. 2014-01-14 14:43:06 actually I dont really think any can. 2014-01-14 14:44:02 you need to be a bit crazy to try run alpine as desktop 2014-01-14 14:45:25 i do, but thats mainly because i believe that eating your own dogfood is the right thing to do 2014-01-14 14:45:45 edge226: ontario - toronto to be specific 2014-01-14 14:46:13 jbilyk__: nice, I lived in KW for a couple years. Southern Alberta here. 2014-01-14 14:46:34 I miss the proximity that KW had to toronto. 2014-01-14 14:46:39 cool, I've got some family around calgary, so I've driven around there 2014-01-14 14:46:57 jbilyk__: ah, thats only a few hours away from where I live. 2014-01-14 14:50:50 jbilyk__: I remember often driving from kitchener to toronto for chinese food @ 2am :) 2014-01-14 14:51:00 heh 2014-01-14 15:09:52 a few hours here and i cross multiple countries :) 2014-01-15 09:07:13 request package http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Plugins/Antispam 2014-01-15 09:11:59 Who add a new package to "edge" repo ? 2014-01-15 09:31:13 hi 2014-01-15 09:31:54 kozak: http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/FAQ#Can_you_build_an_apk_package_for_....3F 2014-01-15 14:01:02 if you guys use edge, please make sure your /boot/vmlinuz-grsec is not a broken symlink before you reboot (after done apk upgrade -U) 2014-01-15 15:43:59 ncopa: thanks for the heads up 2014-01-15 15:44:32 my laptop finally boots in UEFI mode with gummiboot 2014-01-15 15:44:50 does dualboot windows 2014-01-15 15:46:32 ncopa: the symlink does not appear to be broken with ls -ld /boot/* anything else I should double check? 2014-01-15 15:47:32 then i think you should be fine 2014-01-15 15:48:10 any idea on the completion % of the awall howto? 2014-01-15 15:48:31 no idea 2014-01-15 15:49:11 it says not to follow the instructions until its completed, that was updated in 2012... 2014-01-15 15:49:51 edge226: if it says you shouldnt follow instructions in an instruction 2014-01-15 15:50:27 you can try to ignore it ;) 2014-01-15 15:51:13 lol 2014-01-15 15:51:19 darkfaded: the thing is there is no other documentation on what is needed for it in the wiki, so I am wondering what the instructions actually are... 2014-01-15 15:59:37 I'd rather not miss some things and end up in a world of frustration ;) 2014-01-15 16:04:18 I guess atm it does not matter, I can go through other parts of the wiki and start setting other things up. 2014-01-15 16:12:36 or create a forum account and slowly muddle through it with some help, I am not the most experienced with servers and linux firewalls. Which is why I want to learn :) 2014-01-15 16:19:33 I should probably try awall too 2014-01-15 16:21:30 so I assume the plan is that eventually alpine has all its own tools for most configuration tasks? 2014-01-15 16:23:37 morning jbilyk ;) 2014-01-15 16:23:45 hi 2014-01-16 07:40:18 ncopa, you where right about libreoffice .. but how can I prepare system to build with musl? also is there musl based iso so I can test it if build finishes without error? 2014-01-16 07:40:54 freedomrun: i'd say the *easiest* way to get started with musl is in an lxc container 2014-01-16 07:41:38 lxc-create -n alpine-musl -t alpine -- --release edge-musl 2014-01-16 07:41:55 it might even work from ubuntu and/or fedora 2014-01-16 07:42:05 any link with an info (no clue about lxc container) ? ... ahh you are reading my mind :) ... need more coffee 2014-01-16 07:42:37 lxc is like virtualization wannabe but without spawning a new kernel 2014-01-16 07:42:49 so its more like a chroot 2014-01-16 07:42:55 you share kernel with host 2014-01-16 07:43:17 but you isolate the process running in there 2014-01-16 07:43:34 nice .. now you are answering my questions before I type them :) ... ugh .. coffee coffee 2014-01-16 07:43:37 even giving them the appareance of its onw network stack (using namespaces) 2014-01-16 07:44:15 ncopa, thnx ... I hope this will work in vboxed 64 bit alpine install 2014-01-16 07:44:21 if your box is already running alpine edge or some stable, then its just to: apk add lxc && lxc-create .... 2014-01-16 07:44:29 works like a charm 2014-01-16 07:44:35 yes it is on edge 2014-01-16 07:44:37 thnx 2014-01-16 07:45:04 you might want create a bridge network interface and share it with the containers 2014-01-16 07:45:29 you normally create a virtual net interface for the container 2014-01-16 07:45:35 which gets its own ip addr 2014-01-16 07:45:49 then you can connect that to a bridge 2014-01-16 07:46:12 but that means you need to set up a bridge interface on your lxc "host" (your vbox guest) 2014-01-16 07:46:46 if this succees I`ll replace all my desktops with alpine .. I have enough of all other distros really .. the alpine have only right logic for whole system ... at least to me 2014-01-16 07:47:35 what is the vbox host? 2014-01-16 07:47:42 windows or some linux? 2014-01-16 07:49:15 in vboxed freebsd 9.2 64bit(gcc) compiling libreoffice lasts circa 2-3 hours on my i3 laptop so ... hm .. bah no windows I`m always on linux host or at least on freebsd 2014-01-16 07:51:48 this what I have now was 12.10 xubuntu but now it is far from it as I modified it heavily including latest but custom kernel 2014-01-16 08:49:45 freedomrun: 2014-01-16 08:50:05 freedomrun: there are some musl isos available, links at our forum 2014-01-16 11:22:41 shafire: thoughts on my post? 2014-01-16 11:27:21 edge226: seperate boxes is a vm? 2014-01-16 11:28:21 shafire: by using the bridge connection the VM can appear on the network as a seperate box itself and thus act as a box of its own. 2014-01-16 11:28:39 yeah 2014-01-16 11:29:52 I dont have a spare box to make a server or anything so I am making due with what I have. A quad core 3.3ghz w/ 6GB of ram is full capable of doing what I need. 2014-01-16 11:30:49 I had squid working with 2 nics on smoothwall but when I added any more the firewalling rules would break down and not operate correctly. 2014-01-16 11:32:14 I spent days mucking about with it much frustration and had no success, hense why I scrapped it and decided to go alpine. 2014-01-16 11:32:54 I plan on getting everything working for the LAN and then probably get a dynamic DNS for net access. 2014-01-16 11:34:21 I've also been looking for an appropriate distro to help with development, I tried helping with manjaro but one of the devs does not comment his stuff while he codes and expects others to help. It didnt work out too well, I gave up. 2014-01-16 12:20:58 Ok 2014-01-16 22:26:38 hi all, got a system plugged into an IPKVM and I'm trying to turn the resolution down but the usual tricks - nomodeset and vga=normal - aren't working. ruining 2.7.3 x64 2014-01-16 22:27:04 s/ruining/running/ 2014-01-16 22:27:36 Damn autocorrect making me say thongs I didn't Nintendo 2014-01-17 21:35:36 trying to compile linux-2.6.7 so I can run old nvidia drivers.. can't even compile menuconfig 2014-01-17 21:35:54 scripts/kconfig/mconf.c:91:21: error: static declaration of 'current_menu' follows non-static declaration 2014-01-17 21:43:42 some stackoverflow claims that's ncurses missing but that's not the case. version mismatch perhaps? 2014-01-17 21:46:10 more like added check in newer gcc 2014-01-17 22:20:45 hmm, will need older gcc. I get errors quite quickly 2014-01-17 22:54:24 I get "no such file" on running dynamic executable, how can I debug that? in objdump -T I can see symbols from GLIBC_2.1 and 2.0 2014-01-17 22:58:22 nvm 2014-01-17 23:42:27 I realized today that the college login is simply a VPN login, do you guys think it would be possible to bypass this vpn with my own vpn? 2014-01-20 07:40:26 hi 2014-01-20 07:48:19 try to run amavisd, service output error "length() used on @array (did you mean "scalar(@array)"?) at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/IO/Compress/Zlib/Extra.pm line 166." 2014-01-20 08:12:01 kozak_, may be perl-io-compress needs update? 2014-01-20 08:12:20 let me push an update for that packeg 2014-01-20 08:12:24 package* 2014-01-20 08:13:48 all packages up to date 2014-01-20 14:43:21 kozak_, would you like to try it perl-io-compress@edge solves your issue? 2014-01-20 14:43:43 sorry it took more time than expected to push v2.063 2014-01-20 15:34:31 where does owncloud stick the files by default in alpine? 2014-01-20 15:35:25 edge226, /etc/owncloud for config 2014-01-20 15:35:33 /var/lib/owncloud for data 2014-01-20 15:36:01 rnalrd: kk great thanks. 2014-01-20 15:36:04 http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/OwnCloud 2014-01-20 15:37:11 yeah was already looking at that, it did not really answer the question. well it did but I did not correlate the two. 2014-01-20 17:00:49 hi all 2014-01-20 17:01:21 how to setup time zone, i can't do that 2014-01-20 17:01:57 after reboot "date" show wrong time 2014-01-20 17:02:35 alpine works in vbox 2014-01-20 17:06:05 why does it seem like everything in alpine wants acf yet acf is not properly documented... 2014-01-20 17:06:52 I really want to get my server up and running for work but this seems to be holding me back... 2014-01-20 17:13:53 probably "setup-timezone" 2014-01-20 17:21:50 already, MSK 2014 2014-01-20 17:22:26 but time incorrect 2014-01-20 17:24:08 i try to adjust by hands, after reboot again incorrect 2014-01-20 17:25:00 kozak: check date; hwclock 2014-01-20 17:26:12 same 2014-01-20 17:26:55 similar 2014-01-20 17:27:16 kozak: but both wrong? 2014-01-20 17:27:33 yes both 2014-01-20 17:28:05 http://cuttingedgelinux.com/2012/10/29/command-line-interface-hwclock/ 2014-01-20 17:33:54 kozak: I've done that on other distro's and it has successfully reset the time appropriately. 2014-01-20 17:36:07 hwclock --set --date "01/20/2014 21:32:00" 2014-01-20 17:36:14 date: invalid date '01/20/2014 21:32:00' 2014-01-20 17:48:37 dunno then, probably a versioning difference. install the hwclock doc and see if you can find out more from there 2014-01-20 17:49:26 maybe hwclock -t 2014-01-20 17:54:05 I am having the same issue on vbox as you are though, the hwclock keeps resetting to the wrong time. 7h in the future which I was having happen in smoothwall as well. 2014-01-20 18:03:16 hwclock --set -u --date "2014-01-20 18:01" 2014-01-20 18:03:31 hwclock output: Mon Jan 20 14:01:05 2014 -0.807205 seconds 2014-01-20 18:07:08 any ideas ? 2014-01-20 18:17:42 http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#disabletimesync - may be is it 2014-01-20 19:25:20 anyone know how to force halt to actually turn off the machine? having to turn it off manually is getting a little annoying. 2014-01-20 19:25:48 I'm not sure - i use poweroff and it sends ACPI shutdown properly 2014-01-20 19:26:08 ah kk, that fixes it :) 2014-01-20 19:36:03 in setting acl's ip/X what would X be called? 2014-01-21 19:09:56 so uhm, where's the awall documentation? 2014-01-21 19:48:34 I have this awall configuration file, and I'm struggling with getting forwarding to work, and I don't know how to incorporate masquerading: http://pastie.org/private/kx7kkwbak58qrvrkoptza 2014-01-21 19:49:28 if my "forward" section was correct this should have been unneccesary: iptables --append FORWARD --in-interface ib0 -j ACCEPT 2014-01-21 19:49:53 I don't know how to translate this to the format awall expects: iptables --table nat --append POSTROUTING --out-interface eth1 -j MASQUERADE 2014-01-22 07:14:04 jzono1 http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_Wall_User%27s_Guide 2014-01-22 07:15:24 masquerade is done with: 2014-01-22 07:16:01