2013-12-01 05:26:46 Wiki and Google yield nothing. Is there any support for ZFS? Is it available built-in or as a package? 2013-12-01 21:32:28 done chroot install, booted into it and doing alpine-setup. I got stuck on timezone as I've got no /usr/share/zoneinfo... which package is that? 2013-12-01 21:32:49 is there a command to search (not installed) packages by filename? 2013-12-01 23:32:44 ccxlap: you set timezones in /etc/TZ or the TZ env variable: http://www.uclibc.org/FAQ.html#timezones 2013-12-01 23:33:17 ccxlap: the tzdata apk holds the /usr/share/zoneinfo files though 2013-12-02 06:34:10 morning 2013-12-03 06:28:41 moin 2013-12-03 08:46:42 hi 2013-12-04 01:32:45 http://puu.sh/5Bpqz.txt 2013-12-04 01:32:47 what just happened 2013-12-04 01:32:48 o.O 2013-12-04 01:33:08 never mind 2013-12-04 01:33:10 I did cd / 2013-12-04 01:33:15 and looks like all is well again 2013-12-04 01:33:17 that was _weird_ 2013-12-04 01:33:45 oh 2013-12-04 01:33:48 I think I was in /etc/snmp 2013-12-04 01:33:52 and it got deleted when I purged 2013-12-05 18:50:51 just did "apk del -r ffmpeg".. removed everything all the way down to busybox. 2013-12-05 18:51:55 any suggestions to recover? 2013-12-06 07:26:49 katala: still have apk? 2013-12-06 07:27:02 do: apk add busybox-static 2013-12-07 03:01:43 Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from 2.6 to 2.7.1, but I'm getting errors saying that the mirror is a bad address. Where can I find a valid list of mirrors? 2013-12-07 03:02:31 or I can just specify the url properly. lol 2013-12-07 03:13:45 upgrade, reboot, now have no network interfaces. lol 2013-12-07 03:59:39 Crap, don't tell me newer kernel doesn't support serial console. That's all I have. 2013-12-07 04:11:16 I give up for tonight. I just don't know. --> http://sprunge.us/gMMD 2013-12-08 06:18:19 I can't seem to boot after an upgrade. I get stuck in the initrd and am getting weird errors. Ideas? http://sprunge.us/FKYP 2013-12-08 06:18:50 Shows both /newroot and /dev/sda3 exist, yet mount says they don't. 2013-12-08 06:25:48 Got a little farther, but not exactly helpful. :( http://sprunge.us/IMSN 2013-12-09 12:59:54 hi. alpine have packets for a System Configuration Management like puppet, chef etc? 2013-12-09 14:27:56 castorinop: http://alpinelinux.org/apk/main/x86_64/ansible 2013-12-09 18:02:22 trying out 2.7.1 on my fit-pc2i which has gma500, and it crashes during boot, last visible line is loading hardware drivers... is there a way to blacklist gma500_gfx module at kernel boot params level? i've pretty much tried all the generic "gma500 blank screen" kernel boot option tips 2013-12-09 18:28:16 apparently alpine-mini contains the same modules? 2013-12-10 12:23:35 is it possible to compile LibreOffice on alpine?? 2013-12-10 13:03:28 freedomrun: i would believe it is *possible* 2013-12-10 13:03:45 and i am slightly interested in it myself 2013-12-10 13:03:54 i use abiword and gnumeric for now 2013-12-10 13:07:38 me too but it`s not enough for the office 2013-12-10 13:08:07 ok so uclib shouldn`t create anny problems here? 2013-12-10 13:08:14 *any 2013-12-10 13:13:06 it probably will but i doubt it won't be fixable 2013-12-10 13:34:42 i think libreoffice builds without java nowdays? 2013-12-10 13:35:38 ncopa, yeah thank God 2013-12-10 13:36:16 then there is definitively hope 2013-12-10 13:36:36 :) 2013-12-10 15:20:15 freedomrun: why uclibc? 2013-12-10 18:23:03 bah need to reset everything, downloading new alpine iso 2013-12-10 22:57:37 anyone around who has done some testing on raspi or cubietruck (i just don't know if there's any news over the last 4 weeks, was ill) 2013-12-11 06:17:05 darkfader, no much news on raspi. i'm waiting new musl release before retriggering the build. 2013-12-11 10:42:17 hello 2013-12-11 10:42:27 is there something like localepurge? 2013-12-11 13:38:59 freedomrun: havent heard of it 2013-12-11 13:56:14 thnx ncopa 2013-12-12 06:45:26 gm 2013-12-12 07:47:07 anyone tried using alpine on XFS? 2013-12-13 12:33:47 ? no tint2 panel? :( 2013-12-13 13:03:46 freedomrun: http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Creating_an_Alpine_package 2013-12-13 13:04:49 clandmeter, thnx :) I`ll do my best .. also for circa 12h I`ll reach some free time finally 2013-12-13 13:05:30 you'll be a better person and go to heaven, when you start to create your own packages. 2013-12-13 13:15:14 lol 2013-12-13 13:17:27 I`ll definetely try to package for alpine .. I was thinking too long about that. I just hope I can count on some help from time to time 2013-12-13 14:44:58 freedomrun: sure, just shout if you need help. 2013-12-13 14:49:12 clandmeter, thnx 2013-12-17 09:54:34 @StarWarsFan - when I installed Alpine to LVM I did: 2013-12-17 09:54:43 # mount partitions 2013-12-17 09:54:43 cd /mnt 2013-12-17 09:54:43 mkdir boot home tmp var 2013-12-17 09:54:43 vgchange -a y 2013-12-17 09:54:43 mount -t ext4 /dev/vg0/root /mnt 2013-12-17 09:54:43 mount -t ext4 /dev/vg0/home /mnt/home 2013-12-17 09:54:43 mount -t ext4 /dev/vg0/tmp /mnt/tmp 2013-12-17 09:54:44 mount -t ext4 /dev/vg0/var /mnt/var 2013-12-17 09:54:44 mount -t ext2 /dev/vda1 /mnt/boot 2013-12-17 09:54:45 swapon /dev/mapper/vg0-swap 2013-12-17 09:54:45 #install alpine 2013-12-17 09:54:46 setup-disk -m sys /mnt 2013-12-17 09:56:05 & to start off on the live-cd: 2013-12-17 09:56:17 setup-interfaces 2013-12-17 09:56:17 setup-apkrepos 2013-12-17 09:56:17 ifup eth0 2013-12-17 09:56:17 apk update 2013-12-17 09:56:18 apk add lvm2 2013-12-17 09:59:08 i c 2013-12-17 09:59:18 thx 2013-12-17 09:59:30 but this is the installation to an lvm, right? 2013-12-17 10:00:11 yes - I mounted everything & then pointed the installation program to "/mnt" 2013-12-17 10:01:20 just make sure you cd to "/" (or anywhere outside of "/mnt" ) before running the installation 2013-12-17 10:02:25 & it will detect the lvm partitions & add lvm to the initramfs 2013-12-17 10:17:40 ah ok, cool 2013-12-17 18:00:05 I'm having a problem with a dual-stack interface only bringing up the IPv4 side at boot. If I manually restart networking post-boot, the IPv6 side comes up just fine. 2013-12-17 18:00:46 Both sides of the stack are statically configured (no DHCP/auto). 2013-12-17 18:01:03 Any thoughts? 2013-12-17 18:10:56 Hmm, rebooting to test a theory.... 2013-12-17 18:15:39 That did not work :) 2013-12-17 19:55:29 Any thoughts on the IPv6 dual stack problem? 2013-12-17 20:06:03 ACTION hasn't had issues with ipv4 static and ipv6 autoconfig 2013-12-17 21:59:58 n8@all 2013-12-18 12:17:06 Ouch, not a hybrid ISO 2013-12-18 12:17:09 fun 2013-12-18 12:17:13 sorry bout that 2013-12-18 12:18:01 its due to you can run the system from that booted usb 2013-12-18 12:18:09 and save the config on there 2013-12-18 12:18:23 and have the package cache there too (so you can install from net and have them when you reboot) 2013-12-18 14:12:49 New to IRC, so let me know if I miss something. I have two questions; first, I want to set up an admin user on my Alpine box, vServer build, so that I don't have to SSH as root. Which commands/groups do I need to use? 2013-12-18 14:13:37 Second, several pages, such as http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/OpenVCP mention setting up other HTTP daemons; what do I need to do so that ACF works under a different httpd? 2013-12-18 15:34:44 hi tempAlpine 2013-12-18 15:35:13 for setting up admin user: 2013-12-18 15:35:25 adduser theusername 2013-12-18 15:35:37 addgroup theusername wheel 2013-12-18 15:35:44 apk add sudo 2013-12-18 15:35:48 visudo 2013-12-18 15:36:05 edit config so %wheel gets sudo permissions 2013-12-18 15:36:15 and that should be it 2013-12-18 15:36:27 Thanks @ncopa 2013-12-18 15:37:16 and you want run acf under lighttpd? 2013-12-18 15:37:26 i think its just a question of enabling cgi 2013-12-18 15:38:11 from the top of my head: in lighttpd.conf: include "mod_cgi.conf" 2013-12-18 15:38:35 and then make it execute cgi-bin/acf 2013-12-18 15:38:38 or similar 2013-12-18 15:38:50 Alright, thanks! 2013-12-18 15:41:21 and mod_cgi.conf: https://dpaste.de/qjZa 2013-12-18 15:41:53 not sure if that .cgi -> haserl is needed 2013-12-18 15:45:33 Alright, the admin user is working; I'll try the other part in a bit. Again, thanks! 2013-12-18 15:52:08 New question: trying to follow the instructions for OpenVCP, but I'm getting an ERROR: Unsatisfiable Constraints for php-tls 2013-12-19 14:26:48 hi 2013-12-19 14:27:13 hi 2013-12-19 14:29:57 Im getting around to upgrading to 2.7 now. can I just drop in the kernel .apk from edge and have it work? 2013-12-19 14:30:41 oh nevermind 2013-12-19 14:30:56 usaklig:/etc# find /lib/modules/ | grep qib /lib/modules/3.10.23-0-grsec/kernel/drivers/infiniband/hw/qib 2013-12-19 14:31:05 3,10.23 does what I want :) 2013-12-19 14:32:23 yeah, using v2.7 repo in /etc/apk/repositoies should work 2013-12-19 14:33:20 reminds me, i should upgrade the 3.10 kernel(s) 2013-12-19 14:46:38 I got stuck on this on reboot into 2.7.2, and after manually selecting something it booted normally: 2013-12-19 14:46:41 failed to load com32 file menu.c32 2013-12-19 14:46:41 undef symbol fail: __syslinux_debug_enabled 2013-12-19 22:29:14 anyone here 2013-12-19 22:29:19 im having an issue setting up a bonded interface 2013-12-19 22:29:21 is this out of date : http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Bonding 2013-12-19 22:29:23 ? 2013-12-20 07:08:32 while1eq1: it should be upto date 2013-12-20 07:08:40 exactly what issue do you have? 2013-12-21 19:54:22 anyone here set up cups with an HP OfficeJet Pro network printer? 2013-12-21 19:54:48 ACTION is trying to get CUPS working on my Alpine router so that I can add an Avahi config and have iOS AirPrint for my HP OfficeJet L7680 2013-12-21 19:55:18 I got CUPS installed, but it's not finding the HP printer, and I'm concerned that this may require hplip which doesn't seem to be in Alpine 2013-12-22 19:10:31 is cups in alpine compiled with usb support? 2013-12-23 23:10:35 hi 2013-12-23 23:10:41 in which package is the software "arch"? 2013-12-23 23:27:43 hi, shafire 2013-12-23 23:27:55 what do you mean by "arch"? 2013-12-23 23:28:18 hamletmun: I am using lxc 2013-12-23 23:28:27 the lxc template oracle and ubuntu-cloud uses "arch" 2013-12-23 23:28:43 arch = $(arch) 2013-12-23 23:39:13 I just searched alpine wiki and found out this one 2013-12-23 23:39:14 http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Porting_GHC_to_Alpine 2013-12-23 23:39:42 case `uname -m` in ... 2013-12-23 23:40:27 probably you could do the same 2013-12-24 12:25:21 hi 2013-12-24 12:25:54 where can i find cyrus sasl sql plugin ? 2013-12-24 20:47:10 Hello. I installed AlpineLinuxXen on my server and I'm doing some configuration then. Basically I need to secure my access to console in time I potentially broke networking. So I need to enable serial console. I tested which one is reachable and entered apropirate 2013-12-24 20:47:18 getty line in /etc/inittab 2013-12-24 20:47:33 but now I'm lost. alpine linux do not underestand telinit q 2013-12-24 20:50:53 so, because telinit is basically link to init I tryied init q but ........ not working resist to do anything 2013-12-24 21:51:20 anyhow, server lost 2013-12-24 21:51:40 I've to plan short trip to it. 2013-12-25 06:52:34 o/ Quick question : 2013-12-25 06:52:43 What would be the cause of unreachable default dev lo metric -1 error -101 2013-12-25 06:53:01 from ip -6 route show 2013-12-25 06:53:37 Currently, this is how I set ipv6 : 2013-12-25 06:53:41 ip -6 addr add 2607:bd00:0:4::b55b:1482/128 dev eth0 2013-12-25 06:53:41 ip -6 route add 2607:bd00:0:4::1/128 dev eth0 2013-12-25 06:53:42 ip -6 route add default via 2607:bd00:0:4::1 2013-12-25 08:42:02 radek: telinit q will not work because it is busybox init and not sysvinit 2013-12-25 08:42:18 it implements some functionality from sysvinit and config file is similar /etc/inittab 2013-12-25 08:42:27 but it is simplified 2013-12-25 09:24:09 Hi, which iso file is suitable for CF install? I have ALIX3D3 System Board , with 8GB CF card 2013-12-25 09:36:36 Actually i need to Bootstrapp on CF as I dont have external CD/DVD ROM 2013-12-25 12:07:24 Are there no anymore usbdrive tarball for bootstrapping? 2013-12-25 12:08:24 crow, we ship the iso only currently. you can use setup-bootable, or unetbootin to create the usb stick 2013-12-25 12:10:40 fabled is that script in iso also? My problem is that I need to use laptop to setup this CF for ALIX3D3 as i dont have USB CD/DVD ROM or empty disk to burn and install on this laptop to CF as target.. 2013-12-25 12:11:04 setup-bootable is standard alpine script. you need alpine installation to use it. 2013-12-25 12:11:16 unetbootin is multiplatform wizard to create usb stick from .iso files. 2013-12-25 12:15:12 fabled ok let me try it. What i want is to install to CF and use that CF as boot device, but to run-from-ram, and in case of chages to save it to that CF. 2013-12-25 12:15:18 for next reboot 2013-12-25 12:15:28 yes, i do that with my alix boxes here 2013-12-25 12:15:48 fabled you have ALIX 3D3 one to? 2013-12-25 12:15:50 i use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ to create the initial CF from .iso 2013-12-25 12:41:07 fabled is dhcp default enabled? without screen and serial cable i cant access alix, and on dhcp server i dont see any request 2013-12-25 12:53:40 crow, dhcpc is not enabled per-default 2013-12-25 12:53:52 i think we had overlay file for that somewhere 2013-12-25 12:54:05 ncopa_, might be an idea to ship overlay somewhere that enable dhcp 2013-12-25 12:55:37 hi 2013-12-25 12:55:47 hm 2013-12-25 12:56:19 the overlay would need enable dhcp and start sshd 2013-12-25 12:57:18 we'd need ssh key too 2013-12-25 12:57:19 hm 2013-12-25 12:57:27 how about a webserver that generates a such apkovl? 2013-12-25 12:57:30 crow, i have mostly alix.2d2 or 6f2 2013-12-25 12:57:37 web service 2013-12-25 12:57:38 ncopa, sshd init.d autogenerates new ssh key 2013-12-25 12:58:05 so we need apkovl with network/interfaces and sshd autostart + appropriate apk/world 2013-12-25 12:58:16 and edge pkglist should be updated to include ssh 2013-12-25 12:58:25 i was thinking, installing the pub key to /root/.ssh/authorized_keys 2013-12-25 12:59:40 what interface should it use? eth0? 2013-12-25 12:59:58 we could also run dhcpcd, which enables dhcp on all interfaces 2013-12-25 13:00:41 yeah, openssh should be added to edge pkg list 2013-12-25 13:18:04 fabled ok then I will need to setup a monitor and keyboard to it to be able to configure. Will need to wait two days :(. 2013-12-25 13:18:24 I second that about dhcpcd on all interface, + openssh. 2013-12-25 13:19:18 as right now i dont know how to configure alpinelinux on alix 3d3 ( i dont have an Monitor or serial cable for console). 2013-12-25 15:25:51 crow: you could also boot the iso in a vm, setup dhcp networking, add your ssh key there and setup openssh and then do: lbu package 2013-12-25 15:26:07 it will create a .apkovl.tar.gz file 2013-12-25 15:26:35 put that file on the boot media for your alix, and it will boot up with the config you created in the vm 2013-12-25 15:30:34 ncopa thank you for the hint. i will try it. can you be more specific where on boot media? (it is only one fat32 partition) 2013-12-25 15:36:40 on the root 2013-12-25 15:40:09 i could even use CF on VM, do passthrough to vm and use it as destination media, and boot that VM with iso. 2013-12-25 16:09:04 : @ncopa 2013-12-25 16:09:22 finally I found the init q solution. 2013-12-25 16:09:30 must be done this way 2013-12-25 16:09:34 kill -sHUP 1 2013-12-25 16:09:41 works. 2013-12-25 16:09:55 btw I got it from the busybox init source code. 2013-12-25 16:27:17 hi 2013-12-25 16:27:29 I am using zsh and alpine 2.7.2 and have still this error: http://bugs.alpinelinux.org/issues/2289 2013-12-25 16:27:32 #2289 2013-12-25 16:31:41 fuck, Ok:( 2013-12-25 16:32:54 repository was still on 2.6, lol 2013-12-25 16:33:20 apk should get something like "apk doctor" :) 2013-12-25 16:54:05 how can I check, on which package requires tzdata? 2013-12-25 17:12:04 partition created with setup-alpine does not end on cylinder boundary, why is this? 2013-12-25 17:24:58 crow: I thought, you want to run from tmpfs? 2013-12-25 17:46:26 shafire well i just folowed that setup-alpine. i was not able to create corrrect CF media with unetbootin 2013-12-25 17:46:45 and i selected sys. 2013-12-25 17:46:54 seems i did it wrong? 2013-12-25 17:57:40 crow: you want to use setup-bootable 2013-12-25 17:57:49 that will create you a bootable usb stick 2013-12-25 17:58:17 (or bootable cf media) 2013-12-25 17:59:14 1. boot alpine 2013-12-25 17:59:20 2. download the iso 2013-12-25 17:59:28 3. mount the iso 2013-12-25 17:59:35 4. mount your dest. device 2013-12-25 17:59:54 5. setup-bootable /media/cdrom /media/dest. 2013-12-25 18:01:35 Are up statements in /etc/network/interfaces different in Alpine Linux? I've tried running a configuration similar to the one on my other non Alpine Linux box, but it ignores the up statements completely (or at least, the up ip -6 route) ones. 2013-12-25 18:08:51 shafire thanks for explaining it 2013-12-25 18:19:58 don't forget syslinux 2013-12-25 18:32:37 shafire is there wiki for that what you described? or your transcript maybe? :) 2013-12-25 18:33:39 http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Create_a_Bootable_USB#Creating_a_bootable_Alpine_Linux_USB_Stick_from_the_command_line 2013-12-25 19:42:17 crow: how is it going? 2013-12-25 23:35:32 shafire i did not have time to setup it again, will do it shortly 2013-12-25 23:39:55 shafire even if i will try first to run from tmpfs, i setup alpine on VM and there is olso that message about all partition do have "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary" 2013-12-25 23:45:29 @ncopa, i found you was the last editor of wiki page "Create Alpine Linux PV DomU" 2013-12-25 23:45:49 i installed one. but 2013-12-25 23:46:07 teh pygrub fails searching the installed sisk 2013-12-25 23:46:08 disk 2013-12-25 23:46:38 Radek: is the host running alpine linux, too? 2013-12-25 23:46:50 we had a similar issue w/ alpine vm on archlinux 2013-12-25 23:47:09 on alpine it works fine, seems arch didn't have some of the pygrub patches needed 2013-12-25 23:47:35 the thing (fyi) is that alpine linux doesn't use grub per default and there's a compat wrapper to read the extlinux.cfg 2013-12-25 23:47:57 and this pygrub compat thing seemed to be incomplete on other than arch 2013-12-25 23:48:13 if you're on alpine (dom0) i can help you find the issue 2013-12-25 23:48:32 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/xen/bin/pygrub", line 877, in raise RuntimeError, "Unable to find partition containing kernel" RuntimeError: Unable to find partition containing kernel 2013-12-25 23:48:37 is the error message 2013-12-25 23:48:55 the XEN is on alpine2.7.2 x86_64 2013-12-25 23:49:16 i'll pastebin a domU config of mine for you to compare 2013-12-25 23:49:18 the domu installed is alpine 2.7.2 x86_64 2013-12-25 23:50:17 http://paste.ie/view/6108d1c1 2013-12-25 23:50:31 can you please compare that to your config file? 2013-12-25 23:51:20 hopefully there's some difference :) 2013-12-25 23:51:57 mine is http://paste.ie/view/de5601d7 2013-12-25 23:52:41 hardly anything wrong with that 2013-12-25 23:54:00 do you have a working domU (any linux?), that would allow to try fsck / mount of xvda1 2013-12-25 23:54:17 no working domU. 2013-12-25 23:54:28 oki 2013-12-25 23:54:40 fdisk -l /dev/xen0_vg/al0d0 2013-12-25 23:54:45 but when I boot from cd, I'm able to mount and no problems. 2013-12-25 23:54:47 does it find the 3 partitions? 2013-12-25 23:54:48 ah ok 2013-12-25 23:54:49 cool 2013-12-25 23:55:17 yes 3 partitions, 2013-12-25 23:55:23 then boot from cd and check your /boot/extlinux.cfg in the vm 2013-12-25 23:55:26 not on boundaries but looks ok 2013-12-25 23:55:53 i don't get the boundaries error 2013-12-25 23:56:13 or did you just see they're not well-aligned 2013-12-25 23:56:24 what i wanted to say 2013-12-25 23:56:30 if you look in the pygrub sources 2013-12-25 23:56:40 the error message is a bit stupid 2013-12-25 23:57:02 it'll come either if it can't use the partition or if it can't find the grub config in it 2013-12-25 23:57:17 (just to be sure... xvda1 is "active"? :) 2013-12-25 23:59:48 http://paste.ie/view/50a77aed 2013-12-26 00:00:17 meh, all fine 2013-12-26 00:00:38 I do not complan stupid messages. Cause then I will be complaining till end of my life. 2013-12-26 00:00:43 hehe 2013-12-26 00:00:52 i'll try to memorize thatr 2013-12-26 00:01:06 can you also try phy: vs. tap:aio once? 2013-12-26 00:01:17 it's weird it doesn't work 2013-12-26 00:02:46 'phy:/dev/xen0_vg/al0d0,xvda,w', --- and the behaviour is the same. 2013-12-26 00:02:53 oki 2013-12-26 00:02:54 ty 2013-12-26 00:04:00 workaround for now (but not after update) would be to make a grub menu.lst from the extlinux.cfg, or you'll need to do some print "this, that" in pygrub now. because i don't think you have anything wrong 2013-12-26 00:04:05 i just don't run as current a version 2013-12-26 00:18:34 so if i copy it right the parts of XEN are broken by design. the depend on stuff which can't be generally solved and thus XEN parts must be extended by endles stream of exceptions? 2013-12-26 00:28:07 So, I'm not particularly familiar with openrc as an init manager, it seems reasonable enough to my systemd-practiced head. What I don't follow entirely are the init scripts, I've never had to write one until now. I'm trying to get ZNC running, but it doesn't seem to come with a script for use with openrc by default. 2013-12-26 00:42:37 Does Alpine support libval? I'm having problems compiling something because of missing headers. 2013-12-26 00:43:15 eh that's totally not how I wanted to phrase that 2013-12-26 01:38:32 to darkfaded: finaly i managed to switch from pvm to hvm and after solving vnc issue it's working 2013-12-26 04:23:46 where can i find cyrus sasl sql plugin ? 2013-12-26 10:08:10 hi 2013-12-26 10:08:10 I am getting following error when starting network... ip rtnetlink answers file exists 2013-12-26 10:12:26 mostly because of ipv6 :S 2013-12-26 10:28:40 How can I check, if openntpd works? :S 2013-12-26 10:50:30 hi, checked out the alpine mirroring instructions but couldn't see a size estimate for required disk space...anyone know? 2013-12-26 10:52:20 http://mirror1.hs-esslingen.de/info/status.php4?details=83 2013-12-26 10:53:34 I think, full mirror about 140gb 2013-12-26 10:58:09 thanks shafire! 2013-12-26 11:42:37 shafire what i read is that openntpd is not anymore linux maintened, archlinux use ntpd, and there you could use ntpd -q to see status, sorry that this does not answer your question regarding openntpd 2013-12-26 11:49:35 The NTP Project provides a reference implementation of the protocol called simply NTP. An alternative to NTP is Chrony, a dial-up friendly and specifically designed for systems that are not online all the time, and OpenNTPD, part of the OpenBSD project and currently not maintained for Linux. 2013-12-26 11:56:37 Ok, thanks 2013-12-26 12:08:20 maybe is time to make this avaiable on alpinelinux https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk?h=packages/ntp 2013-12-26 12:12:41 yes! 2013-12-26 12:12:46 ncopa: ^ 2013-12-26 12:27:44 the problem with openntpd is, I can not check, if its working? no logs anywhere 2013-12-26 12:36:29 Thu:52 13:35:19 root:alpine-oh96~# ntpd -s -d ntp engine ready no reply received in time, skipping initial time setting 2013-12-26 12:36:31 but why? :S 2013-12-26 13:12:18 shafire: i use chrony on the alpine boxes it appears also to have no monitoring worth a damn 2013-12-26 13:38:56 I deleted openntpd 2013-12-26 13:39:00 busybox ntp worked, lol 2013-12-26 13:39:03 :) 2013-12-26 15:03:04 what is enough for alpine installation on hdd? (one partition, as i would like to test other distribution on Alix3d3) 2013-12-26 15:13:42 crow: Alix3d3, which storage system do you use? 2013-12-26 15:16:17 what is an Alix3d3? 2013-12-26 15:37:05 shafire, http://pcengines.ch/ 2013-12-26 15:37:19 it's tiny embedded x86. amd geode 500mhz. 2013-12-26 15:37:24 very cheap. 2013-12-26 15:37:33 like a rpi? 2013-12-26 15:37:46 shafire, older, slower, x86 2013-12-26 15:37:51 well 2013-12-26 15:37:54 it might be actually faster 2013-12-26 15:37:58 since rpi is old arm 2013-12-26 15:38:03 costs a bit more 2013-12-26 15:38:06 but yes. same idea. 2013-12-26 15:38:16 rpi is for graphics stuff 2013-12-26 15:38:19 alix is for networking stuff 2013-12-26 15:38:31 there's few others like that out too 2013-12-26 15:38:37 gotta run 2013-12-26 15:38:40 bye 2013-12-26 15:50:16 shafire i have there CF 8GB 2013-12-26 15:50:50 shafire fabled already explained you what this ALIX.3D3 is :) , it was long before RPi and it is x86 2013-12-26 15:51:12 but it is not i686 :( 2013-12-26 15:51:41 i am waiting for ALIX 2/3 sucessor http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm 2013-12-26 16:20:22 ah cool, ok 2013-12-26 16:31:09 shafire how much space does alpine use on your side? 2013-12-26 16:31:38 i wanna setup gtp lvm with grub2 (reading about it) 2013-12-26 16:31:49 use syslinux:) 2013-12-26 16:31:54 usb stick needs 271.4M 2013-12-26 16:32:08 tmpfs needs 92mb currently 2013-12-26 16:33:19 how much ram do you have on that "machine" 2013-12-26 16:34:16 16gb 2013-12-26 16:34:47 reason i would install alpine to CF is because ALIX have only 256 MB. 2013-12-26 16:35:05 I just use alpine for everything 2013-12-26 16:35:27 proprietary software goes on lxc (debian) 2013-12-26 16:35:42 works just fine :-) 2013-12-26 16:37:36 i need alix to act as small server, serving for home, and because of 500MHz of CPU and 256MB of RAM, i need one distribution with low cpu/ram usage, alpine as lightweight distro is to be tested. before i have had openwrt compiled for x86 2013-12-26 16:37:57 which is also uClibc and Busybox based. 2013-12-26 16:38:15 I use alpine, because I can run it from tmpfs and its lightweight 2013-12-26 21:16:57 I did try GTP LVM and Syslinux but it fails to boot device (actually i cant see it no serial nor external Monitor currently) but i see upon power of of device that it ask for IP rapidly (so i assume PXE boot) . Here is what I used. https://dpaste.de/Rmmf 2013-12-26 21:18:52 it's arch, not alpine :) 2013-12-26 21:19:27 mh 2013-12-26 21:21:02 shafire just to create GPT on CF rest is alpine pure :) 2013-12-26 21:29:11 I dont know if setup-disk does it, but is extlinux installed? 2013-12-26 21:29:15 and /boot has the boot flag? 2013-12-26 21:29:32 and boot order is correct? 2013-12-26 21:54:28 shafire well there is no /boot partition its all in one lvm alpine.rootfs 2013-12-26 21:54:55 that first partition is for MBR Bios (as alix have mbr bios), 2013-12-26 21:54:57 oh ok 2013-12-26 21:55:50 shafire i followed this guid and others regarding GPT LVM etc. http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Setting_up_LVM_on_GPT-labeled_disks 2013-12-26 21:56:08 but i used syslinux as you suggest, but i am not sure if it can boot from lvm? 2013-12-26 21:58:28 the tutorial created a primary partition for /boot 2013-12-26 22:00:17 mh 2013-12-26 22:00:29 but it is out from lvm 2013-12-26 22:05:56 If your system does not support UEFI, you can make a BIOS boot partition, as it replaces the sector of disk on a DOS partitioned drive that lives between the partition table and the first partition where grub is written directly. 2013-12-26 22:06:50 seems that ef02 to make it a BIOS boot partition is only for GRUB 2013-12-26 22:07:11 "...Currently, Extlinux does not support LVM, and while it does support btrfs..." 2013-12-26 22:07:12 :( 2013-12-26 22:10:36 ACTION is kinda curious why a tiny low-power box like that needs lvm 2013-12-26 22:10:46 there's probably some way to get it working 2013-12-26 22:11:30 (when I was on arch I rolled my own initrd and did some weird nested loopback setup for /) 2013-12-26 22:14:00 jzono1 I wanna use lvm, just that :) and learn more about it, and it is alpine not arch 2013-12-26 22:15:44 fair enough. (and yes, I know - but the same thing still applies with any distro, get to know how it boots and you can modify it to boot pretty much anything) 2013-12-27 16:42:57 can lbu just revert one file? 2013-12-27 16:46:01 shafire: lbu package is just a tar.gz, so yes 2013-12-27 16:46:12 you'd use the tar utility for the revert in that case though 2013-12-27 23:02:19 n8@all 2013-12-28 14:00:49 is there gptfdisk package in alpinelinux? 2013-12-28 14:01:43 seems i cant find any packages with *gpt* using http://alpinelinux.org/packages 2013-12-28 14:02:04 would be nice to have with alpine https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/gptfdisk 2013-12-28 14:41:28 crow: can you file a package request for it at the bugs.alpinelinux.org site? whats the difference to using parted? 2013-12-28 14:48:33 hi 2013-12-28 14:48:57 hwclock uses localtime as utc time, how can I change that? 2013-12-28 14:52:49 -u Assume hardware clock is kept in UTC 2013-12-28 14:52:50 -l Assume hardware clock is kept in local time 2013-12-28 14:52:50 ? 2013-12-28 14:53:57 at least this sounds like what you needed 2013-12-28 14:53:59 darkfader well maybe parted is ok, but i cant do what i wanna using only parted, maybe as luck of experience or duno. 2013-12-28 14:55:04 shafire ntpd have inside scripts something like this "hwclock -u --systohc" what sync system time utc to host. or manually hwclock --systohc --utc 2013-12-28 14:55:39 Ok 2013-12-28 15:03:51 is there grub2 for alpine, i see some alpine wiki pages about grub but not actually grub as a package. 2013-12-28 17:21:44 darkfader: crow: thanks 2013-12-29 02:13:32 http://www.spinics.net/lists/dm-devel/msg19729.html <- in case anyone considered using thinp, see that message and the lack of reply. sigh :> 2013-12-29 23:00:48 So I'm trying to compile and install an up to date version of ZNC on an alpine VPS, and I can't for the life of me get passed ./configure due to something about the C++ compiler not being able to make executables. 2013-12-29 23:21:13 you probably do not want to install tools like that on a vps - much better to build on a local VM in KVM or virtualbox 2013-12-29 23:21:47 otherwise you are leaving tools for an attacker on your system 2013-12-29 23:22:08 you probably need to "apk add alpine-sdk" to install the build tools 2013-12-29 23:24:20 I could always remove the tools later if I feel it's starting to garner attention. It's just a personal box, I'll be the only user for quite some time. 2013-12-30 07:12:42 hi 2013-12-30 07:12:49 latest version of znc is 1.2? 2013-12-30 08:43:34 moinmoin 2013-12-30 08:47:24 hi 2013-12-30 09:14:50 Hi 2013-12-30 09:15:07 ncopa latest version of znc is 1.2 right. 2013-12-30 09:15:40 maybe Sanchal_ would like to compile nightly http://znc.in/nightly/ 2013-12-30 09:16:39 Sanchal_: do you have an exact error message? did you install g++, the libc-dev etc? 2013-12-30 09:47:20 StarWarsFan, what about moinmoin ? 2013-12-30 09:47:41 fcolista: well... 2013-12-30 09:47:52 it needs upgrade 2013-12-30 09:47:54 right? 2013-12-30 09:48:04 it's a common greeting in german speaking area 2013-12-30 09:48:12 like "hi" :-) 2013-12-30 09:48:14 LOL :) 2013-12-30 09:48:26 just wondering about the package 2013-12-30 09:48:31 that is old :) 2013-12-30 09:48:35 ahh, now i know what you mean *g* 2013-12-30 09:48:43 the wiki, right? 2013-12-30 09:49:10 just to explain: "good morning" == "guten morgen" 2013-12-30 09:49:27 "guten morgen" in short: "morgen" 2013-12-30 09:49:30 yep :) 2013-12-30 09:49:31 http://moinmo.in/ 2013-12-30 09:49:34 in short-short: "moin" 2013-12-30 09:49:36 ;-) 2013-12-30 09:49:52 anyway, this triggered me to upgrade to 1.9.7, since in testing there was still 1.9.4 2013-12-30 09:49:54 thx :) 2013-12-30 09:50:04 :) 2013-12-30 10:31:24 lol 2013-12-30 10:32:13 :) 2013-12-30 10:37:06 is there reason why grub2 ist not in alpinelinux? 2013-12-30 10:38:32 grub1 was never added because it needed 100000 patches or so 2013-12-30 10:38:42 grub2 was not added mostly becuase i dont like it... 2013-12-30 10:39:02 ...and no-one else stepped up to maintain it.. 2013-12-30 10:39:15 i am looking into EFI now though 2013-12-30 10:40:14 I never bother dual booting... 2013-12-30 10:40:33 just build a boot record and call it done for me 2013-12-30 10:41:40 i bought a new laptop and i think i might want dualboot it 2013-12-30 10:41:57 ncopa i see, for EFI do you need grub2 ? :D 2013-12-30 10:42:13 crow: i dont know really 2013-12-30 10:42:37 i hope i can avoid grub2 2013-12-30 10:43:06 i think the config in grub2 is a big mess 2013-12-30 10:44:52 this could be nice also a fdisk for gtp would be nice to have with alpine https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/gptfdisk 2013-12-30 10:45:39 well I was looking for grub2 because of fact to be able boot directly to lvm. 2013-12-30 10:45:58 can parted do gtp? 2013-12-30 10:46:09 sure but it is complicated.. 2013-12-30 11:03:15 ncopa: grub2 is horribly stupid 2013-12-30 11:03:39 darkfader: that was the impression i got yes 2013-12-30 11:04:04 i wonder if we could use gummiboot for efi 2013-12-30 11:04:36 they have this grub.d directory on first glance looking like something really smart dynamically binding the boot config. and then you find out it's all done by the lexical order of the conf files 2013-12-30 11:04:49 gummiboot? hehe 2013-12-30 11:04:58 that's a german word too 2013-12-30 11:05:14 (rubber boat) 2013-12-30 11:05:24 same on swedish and norwegian 2013-12-30 11:05:26 ahh 2013-12-30 11:05:27 hehe 2013-12-30 11:05:47 well atleast the gummi part 2013-12-30 13:42:40 crow_: i pushed gptfdisk to testing 2013-12-30 13:57:33 ncopa thanks 2013-12-30 14:47:12 ncopa can i switch to testing, if i just boot that iso? or it need to be installed on hdd to switch to testing? 2013-12-30 14:49:51 you can just add: @edge/testing http://..../testing 2013-12-30 14:49:55 one line 2013-12-30 14:49:59 to /etc/apk/repositories 2013-12-30 14:50:15 and apk add -U gptfdisk 2013-12-30 14:50:48 it should work unless you run old alpine (older than v2.5 or so) 2013-12-30 14:50:48 ok 2013-12-30 14:51:17 let me try :) 2013-12-30 15:06:19 ncopa which mirror does have gptfdisk,the one i am using does not 2013-12-30 15:06:48 ncopa i have repositories like this https://dpaste.de/5v75 2013-12-30 15:11:43 ok '@edge/testing http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/testing ' does have i but it is saying to me https://dpaste.de/Zrpj 2013-12-30 15:21:25 oh i think you shoudl do: apk add gptfdisk@edge/testing 2013-12-30 15:51:04 ncopa oh yea thank you that was it, after adding repository and updating cache -U it works.. 'apk add -U gptfdisk@edge/testing' 2013-12-30 15:51:21 ncopa i just setup syslinug gpt lvm using gdisk :) 2013-12-30 15:52:46 so i can move it to main, as is? 2013-12-30 15:53:32 when doing reboot or power off i get this : 'ERROR: lvm failed to stop' 2013-12-30 15:53:45 ncopa from my point of view, yes you can. 2013-12-30 15:53:45 i think its a warning only 2013-12-30 15:53:54 i think i have that warning here too 2013-12-30 15:53:59 its because the root is in use 2013-12-30 15:54:07 so it cannot stop that lvm 2013-12-30 15:54:48 ncopa aha that can be, as it umount the /boot and then it prints that msg. 2013-12-30 15:54:56 about lvm 2013-12-30 18:15:05 ncopa in case someone need it i create small howto based on one howto from wiki: http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Installing_on_GPT_LVM 2013-12-30 18:16:16 Note English is not my first language, so correction if needed are more then welcome. 2013-12-30 22:38:03 hallo, I've been scratching my head for the past two hours why ssl doesn't work properly on my alpine box 2013-12-30 22:38:48 I tried a simple curl on https://google.com/ with verbose and it fails to get local issuer certificate 2013-12-30 22:39:18 I have both openssl and ca-certificates installed and verified /etc/ssl/certs has certificates in it 2013-12-31 07:46:07 Diftraku: hi, do you have an exact error message? or does it just 'hang'? 2013-12-31 12:36:40 it mostly barfs being unable to verify local issuer cert when using verbose, mainly with curl so far 2013-12-31 13:00:16 Diftraku: might be this one: http://bugs.alpinelinux.org/issues/2266 2013-12-31 13:02:49 oddly enough, wget works 2013-12-31 13:03:14 alpine version? 2013-12-31 13:03:25 yup 2013-12-31 13:03:30 which alpine version? 2013-12-31 13:03:35 v2.7? 2013-12-31 13:03:37 v2.6? 2013-12-31 13:06:35 2.7.2 2013-12-31 13:07:54 and if you do: apk fix ca-cedrtificates curl 2013-12-31 13:08:11 ca-certificates 2013-12-31 13:09:15 apk gives the ok yet 'curl https://google.com/ -v' fails 2013-12-31 13:09:57 weird, works here.. 2013-12-31 13:10:02 http://pastebin.com/VbWUm6zw 2013-12-31 13:10:05 Diftraku, which curl version? 2013-12-31 13:10:23 oh 2013-12-31 13:10:31 curl 7.33.0 (x86_64-alpine-linux-uclibc) libcurl/7.33.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1e zlib/1.2.8 libssh2/1.4.3 2013-12-31 13:10:48 ncopa, did we have curl built with ca-certificates in 2.7-stable? 2013-12-31 13:10:53 i think we added it to edge 2013-12-31 13:11:40 yup 2013-12-31 13:11:44 ncopa, http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/aports/commit/main/curl?id=e5cb7b124bdd7c1128ddefc11d9d04788abaeabd 2013-12-31 13:11:46 that's only in edge 2013-12-31 13:11:56 Diftraku, it works in edge, but not in any of the releases (yet) 2013-12-31 13:12:01 Diftraku: do you have ca-certificates installed? 2013-12-31 13:12:05 yup 2013-12-31 13:12:21 fabled: he has it installed already 2013-12-31 13:12:27 ncopa, the problem is compiletime 2013-12-31 13:12:34 curl configury checks for ca-certificates at build time 2013-12-31 13:12:40 if present, it sets default paths correct 2013-12-31 13:12:46 ah... 2013-12-31 13:12:48 otherwise it disable automatic usage of ca-certificates 2013-12-31 13:12:51 makes sense 2013-12-31 13:12:57 ok 2013-12-31 13:12:59 will fix that 2013-12-31 13:14:06 any environment var I can stab to make curl work with ssl? 2013-12-31 13:14:26 you'll get an update in a few secs 2013-12-31 13:14:47 Diftraku, add to options --capath /etc/ssl/certs 2013-12-31 13:14:53 or wait a second for updated package 2013-12-31 13:15:13 fabled: it's buried in the depths of pip's ez_install.py 2013-12-31 13:16:03 try apk upgrade -U and make sure you get curl-7.33.0-r1 2013-12-31 13:16:10 Diftraku, you can add default options to $home/.curlrc 2013-12-31 13:17:01 fabled: oh derp, forgot about that completely... 2013-12-31 13:17:48 its also fixed in curl-7.33.0-r1 2013-12-31 13:18:35 still showin r0 for curl, prolly needs to propagate to the mirror I use 2013-12-31 13:26:15 there we go 2013-12-31 13:26:51 subject: C=US; ST=California; L=Mountain View; O=Google Inc; CN=*.google.com 2013-12-31 13:26:58 yay, works 2013-12-31 13:27:34 danke ncopa and fabled, making my first proper alpine experience more easy! 2013-12-31 13:30:40 thanks for your patience