2013-10-01 05:58:30 hi 2013-10-01 05:58:40 hi 2013-10-01 05:59:23 br_: i wonder if you can: ulimit -c unlimited ; mplayer .... ; gdb --core core /usr/bin/mplayer and in gdb do: bt 2013-10-01 05:59:28 for a 'backtrace' 2013-10-01 13:15:16 hi 2013-10-01 13:15:48 can I get any help? 2013-10-01 13:19:49 Alpine linux-edge: when I compiled something with gcc it always generates a shared library... 2013-10-01 13:21:53 also it does not load apkvol on boot. 2013-10-01 13:23:54 AmatCoder: are you trying to load apkovl from boot media? 2013-10-01 13:24:03 if so, are you using a USB key or some other boot media? 2013-10-01 13:24:36 I am using a USB, yes... 2013-10-01 13:25:52 in diskless mode 2013-10-01 13:26:24 AmatCoder: and apkovl is in the root folder of the USB key? 2013-10-01 13:26:41 yes 2013-10-01 13:28:08 It worked in 2.6.4 version though 2013-10-01 13:29:23 if you have two apkovl's it won't use either 2013-10-01 13:30:59 fabled: no, just one 2013-10-01 13:31:38 AmatCoder, gcc compiles PIE executable by default, which might look like shared library, but is not 2013-10-01 13:32:00 you can still run it 2013-10-01 13:32:50 but tools like file that think ET_DYN means only shared library fail to print the type properly 2013-10-01 13:34:56 yes, file reports it as shared library... 2013-10-01 13:34:56 and file managers too 2013-10-01 13:35:26 those are doing wrong kind of detection 2013-10-01 13:35:34 file bug upstream ;) 2013-10-01 13:35:44 they detect PIE binaries as shared libraries 2013-10-01 13:37:21 bug report to every file managers? :-0 2013-10-01 13:38:19 probably 2013-10-01 13:38:30 it seems that ET_DYN was indeed originally intended for shared libraries only 2013-10-01 13:38:35 but PIE was defined to use ET_DYN too 2013-10-01 13:39:00 the right way to detect executable files seems to be that one checks if ELF interpreter is requested in program headers 2013-10-02 09:00:03 liblcms upgrade error .. is this already known or maybe it is better to make bug report? 2013-10-02 09:00:30 freedomrun: what is the error message? 2013-10-02 09:00:36 related to libpng? 2013-10-02 09:00:45 gimp 2013-10-02 09:01:01 can you paste the exact error message 2013-10-02 09:01:10 yes 2013-10-02 09:03:00 eh no pastebinlike link .. hmm .. sec I`ll try on global pastebin 2013-10-02 09:07:37 http://pastebin.com/gQM2EEXJ 2013-10-02 09:08:20 freedomrun: try: apk fix 2013-10-02 09:08:52 its a bit confusing 2013-10-02 09:09:09 ok 2013-10-02 09:10:44 i mean the error msg 2013-10-02 09:11:01 ncopa: cant we display some message about the error? 2013-10-02 09:12:11 http://pastebin.com/pFjkD1bC 2013-10-02 09:12:24 yeah that would be very nice 2013-10-02 09:12:42 ncopa, yes that fixed it 2013-10-02 09:14:09 would it be very wrong to perform - every time - ?: apk update && apk upgrade && apk fix 2013-10-02 09:14:46 should not be necessary really 2013-10-02 09:15:01 while using edge repo? 2013-10-02 09:16:46 the error msg is there for a reason. apk should be a bit more verbose about it so you know/understand whats going on. 2013-10-02 09:17:38 if that is possible that would be great as apk is already an great tool but with that info it would be even greater 2013-10-02 09:26:53 ncopa: since you're around... just wanted to tell you last week i found the link to my mail with the missing patch http://lists.alpinelinux.org/alpine-devel/2713.html . should i (as, "per process") have opened a bug with it? 2013-10-02 09:28:08 i'll try find it in my inbox firsst 2013-10-02 09:28:09 thanks 2013-10-02 09:28:22 darkfader: it was you that filed the xen shutdown bug? 2013-10-02 09:28:34 #2252 2013-10-02 09:28:34 ncopa: maybe? 2013-10-02 09:28:39 ah 2013-10-02 09:28:40 yes 2013-10-02 09:28:47 i'm looking on it 2013-10-02 09:29:00 i think i have an idea how to solve it 2013-10-02 09:29:12 great :) 2013-10-02 09:29:16 introduce a STOP_MAXWAIT variable in /etc/conf.d/xendomains 2013-10-02 09:30:17 i think it *had* some timeout variable, but it didn't do anything 2013-10-02 09:30:21 then simply wait til all jobs (xl shutdown) are done 2013-10-02 09:30:30 andif it we reach timeout 2013-10-02 09:30:34 zap! 2013-10-02 09:30:40 then we simply exit stop with failure 2013-10-02 09:30:44 failed to stop... 2013-10-02 09:30:49 oh, or that 2013-10-02 09:30:54 and reboot can continue... 2013-10-02 09:31:14 the /etc/default/ is never used 2013-10-02 09:31:35 ah, sorry hadn't figured that 2013-10-02 09:32:13 but i think i can only make it work with PARALLEL_SHUTDOWN=yes 2013-10-02 09:32:21 which is good 2013-10-02 09:32:33 shutdown isn't too much of a load spike for a xen host 2013-10-02 09:32:39 ok 2013-10-02 09:32:55 and also, if one has many vms and it's not in parallel you can end up with like 30 mins for shutdown 2013-10-02 09:33:06 rather had 30 parallel shutdowns with 600s timeout global 2013-10-02 09:33:14 wow.. 2013-10-02 09:33:18 30mins.. 2013-10-02 09:33:35 all the low-load vms terminate early on and then you have more resources for the big ones still shutting down 2013-10-02 09:33:57 darkfader: if i give you an updated init.d script, would you be able to test it for me? 2013-10-02 09:34:07 just think, i.e. a 300...s timeout and 40vms, of which 10 get stuck or something 2013-10-02 09:34:25 sure, but tonight or tomorrow since i won't come home between work and drinks 2013-10-02 09:34:32 if you do it today, then I can include it 2.6.5 release today 2013-10-02 09:34:35 oh.. :-( 2013-10-02 09:34:36 ok 2013-10-02 09:34:43 lets see what i can do then... 2013-10-02 09:35:21 let me think 2013-10-02 09:35:36 i can try it on my home box and not reboot the host itself 2013-10-02 09:37:13 but i think only i had that complaint so far, so if it goes in an release later that should be ok, to... 2013-10-02 09:37:40 ok 2013-10-02 09:37:54 if i get time today i'll try test it myself 2013-10-02 09:38:04 otherwise i'll include it in later release 2013-10-02 09:38:10 query me and i'll also test :) 2013-10-02 09:38:54 the problem is that $home server has an intel mobo and that bios sucks. sometimes it gets stuck on reboot but(!) i just need to do a xendomains stop && xendomains start after replacing the script 2013-10-02 09:39:01 no reboot -> all great, i can test remotely 2013-10-02 09:50:10 hm 2013-10-02 09:50:31 i was kinda thinking of 'jobs -l | wc -l' 2013-10-02 09:50:47 but you cannot really do: num=$(jobs -l | wc -l) 2013-10-02 09:50:54 as jobs will run in a subshell... 2013-10-02 09:54:04 hi all 2013-10-02 09:54:23 I was a long time ago very happy LEAF user 2013-10-02 09:54:30 I really like alpine linux 2013-10-02 09:54:40 nice :) 2013-10-02 09:54:40 have a question about lxc and pax 2013-10-02 09:54:53 Im trying to create a container with debian template 2013-10-02 09:55:01 and I had to install debootstrap 2013-10-02 09:55:06 but at the end pax kills chroot 2013-10-02 09:55:23 i had that too 2013-10-02 09:55:54 about LEAF it was so good I was able to convince our network admin to use it instead of cisco for offices networks 2013-10-02 09:56:03 he really liked it 2013-10-02 09:56:19 its a gresecurity feature that prevents various things in chroot 2013-10-02 09:56:33 i think debootstrap fails on mount and or mknod 2013-10-02 09:56:37 or similar 2013-10-02 09:56:56 you can disable those in /proc/sys/kernel/grsecurity/chroot_* 2013-10-02 09:56:56 is there a nice way to allow it when Im creating a container? 2013-10-02 09:57:02 ah 2013-10-02 09:57:21 echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/grsecurity/chroot_mknod 2013-10-02 09:57:23 or similar 2013-10-02 09:57:26 thx 2013-10-02 09:57:28 will try it 2013-10-02 10:15:54 I did this 2013-10-02 10:15:55 echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/grsecurity/chroot_caps 2013-10-02 10:16:01 and it continued 2013-10-02 10:16:25 but now stops on unpacking libc-bin_2.11.3-4_amd64.deb is at fault 2013-10-02 10:16:36 denied chmod +s of /var/cache/lxc/debian/partial-squeeze-amd64/... 2013-10-02 10:18:36 found it deny_chmod 2013-10-02 10:23:17 cool Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 guest2 2013-10-02 10:23:28 updated http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/LXC 2013-10-02 10:23:39 also problem with virtualbox and guest networks 2013-10-02 10:30:10 now I have only one problem, guest1 (alpine) does not get an ip address, when I restart the networking it works 2013-10-02 10:30:17 guest2 (debian) gets it 2013-10-02 10:35:40 ah runlevel does not have networking on for alpine template 2013-10-02 10:38:58 updated wiki 2013-10-02 10:39:05 ncopa: thx for the help 2013-10-02 11:07:13 darkfader: this is the diff i'm thinking of: http://sprunge.us/KCXZ 2013-10-02 11:07:42 this is the full init.d script: http://sprunge.us/KTPi 2013-10-02 11:08:36 so: cp /etc/init.d/xendomains /etc/init.d/xendomains.backup ; curl http://sprunge.us/KTPi > /etc/init.d/xendomains ; chmod +x /etc/init.d/xendomains 2013-10-02 11:09:11 then set PARALLEL_SHUTDOWN_MAXWAIT= in /etc/conf.d/xendomains 2013-10-02 12:21:18 hum 2013-10-02 12:41:13 darkfader: i tested it in a vm. it doesnot work... 2013-10-02 12:41:22 i think we might need rething the init.d script a bit 2013-10-02 12:43:54 ncopa: i also tested and it ended in ok but two vms are still running 2013-10-02 12:44:15 ncopa: skip it for the release 2013-10-02 12:44:23 yeah 2013-10-02 12:44:43 i'll make a note for weekend to give some more input 2013-10-02 12:45:01 the script i sent you has one logic bug 2013-10-02 12:45:23 test -n "$shutdown_pids" 2013-10-02 12:45:33 should be: test -z "$shutdown_pids" 2013-10-02 12:45:43 i'll do a quick change :) 2013-10-02 12:45:50 but still 2013-10-02 12:45:58 from what i could see 2013-10-02 12:46:02 on start 2013-10-02 12:46:08 pygrub will wiat 30 seconds 2013-10-02 12:46:11 wait* 2013-10-02 12:46:17 ah, yeah that's some retarded thing 2013-10-02 12:46:26 the problem is sometimes it even gets totally stuck 2013-10-02 12:46:39 and if i send an xl shutdown before the guest booted up 2013-10-02 12:46:43 it wil never shutdown 2013-10-02 12:46:43 like, pygrub is done and a event channel doesn't come up. or, love that one, pygrub doesn't count down 2013-10-02 12:46:47 har har 2013-10-02 12:46:55 yes 2013-10-02 12:47:04 second thing i noticed was 2013-10-02 12:47:15 i just don't have time to really give input now 2013-10-02 12:47:17 that even if i the script exits, so shutdown can continue 2013-10-02 12:47:25 it actually does not poweroff 2013-10-02 12:47:27 or reboot 2013-10-02 12:47:44 so i think we have to refactor things 2013-10-02 12:47:58 i also wonder if it would be an idea to replace gnu screen with tmux... 2013-10-02 12:48:23 and then? 2013-10-02 12:48:41 bringing down a vm reliably imho is 3 steps (always) 2013-10-02 12:48:50 xl -F shutdown (to also try acpi) 2013-10-02 12:49:11 if that doesn't work - xl sysrq sync/ro/crash (if pvm) 2013-10-02 12:49:18 if that doesn't work - destroy 2013-10-02 12:49:46 but i dont know what will change with tmux instead of screen 2013-10-02 12:50:07 hm.. 2013-10-02 12:50:08 ok 2013-10-02 12:50:27 i simply dont know enough of xen to do this... :-/ 2013-10-02 12:50:39 then lets talk about it on weekend 2013-10-02 12:50:55 i just can't write the script well enough sicne i can't do background processes 2013-10-02 12:50:56 but yes, the init.d script is pretty much broke 2013-10-02 12:51:02 i'm just too stupid for it 2013-10-02 12:51:08 :) 2013-10-02 12:51:35 ok, lets talk about it over the weekend 2013-10-02 12:51:57 so how about tmux, what would it do better? 2013-10-02 12:52:17 tmux is just an alternative to screen 2013-10-02 12:52:32 i think it is a bit easier to script 2013-10-02 13:09:48 ACTION is having a "linux kind of day" again. today i learned that mounting nfs mounts with 'bg' is not done kernelside. so if you find an export with a flaky firewall infront, and try mounting it w/bg i'll not work, not be possible to remove from the mounts table since it never gets there, and finally fuck up your shell on logout 2013-10-02 13:10:14 idk about tmux but in screen ctrl-a-k helps hrhr 2013-10-02 13:11:49 have a problem with wget and ssl 2013-10-02 13:11:55 what does ctrl-a-k? 2013-10-02 13:12:00 shomodj: apk add wget 2013-10-02 13:12:17 apk add wget openssl ca-certificates 2013-10-02 13:12:26 wget https://www.google.com does not work 2013-10-02 13:12:28 I cant use docker 2013-10-02 13:13:02 2013-10-02 15:12:54 (7.65 MB/s) - 'index.html' saved [11169] 2013-10-02 13:13:05 worke here? 2013-10-02 13:13:19 hmm 2013-10-02 13:13:31 just installed 2.6 today 2013-10-02 13:13:53 To connect to www.google.com insecurely, use `--no-check-certificate'. 2013-10-02 13:13:56 on v2.6 2013-10-02 13:14:16 indeed 2013-10-02 13:14:34 the problem is docker, it uses https to download lxc images 2013-10-02 13:14:37 so it does not work 2013-10-02 13:14:55 not sure how to configure it not to use https 2013-10-02 13:14:57 you are right 2013-10-02 13:15:27 not sure what else will not work 2013-10-02 13:16:07 somethign is wrong with the certs... 2013-10-02 13:16:10 not sure what 2013-10-02 13:16:53 wget --ca-directory=/etc/ssl/certs https://www.google.com 2013-10-02 13:16:58 this does not work also 2013-10-02 13:17:56 my ubuntu has 489 files 2013-10-02 13:18:04 alpine 160 2013-10-02 13:18:21 and im using bash as shell 2013-10-02 13:18:27 ah 2013-10-02 13:18:32 i know whats wrong 2013-10-02 13:18:39 bah... 2013-10-02 13:18:46 ca-certificates trigger script needs perl 2013-10-02 13:18:48 lame 2013-10-02 13:18:52 ah 2013-10-02 13:19:27 to work around it: 2013-10-02 13:19:32 apk add perl 2013-10-02 13:19:39 apk fix ca-certificates 2013-10-02 13:19:43 apk del perl 2013-10-02 13:19:43 yep works 2013-10-02 13:19:52 we need fix that... 2013-10-02 13:20:37 thx 2013-10-02 13:23:12 shomodj: would you mind create a ticket for it on bugs.a.o? 2013-10-02 13:23:16 so i dont forget it 2013-10-02 13:23:21 no prob 2013-10-02 14:15:43 Error opening directory '/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas': No such file or directory 2013-10-02 14:15:46 on glib trigger 2013-10-02 14:20:40 i think thats not a big problem 2013-10-02 14:20:45 it is on apk del, right? 2013-10-02 14:21:56 ncopa: is it currently possible to switch from edge back to 2.6 without creating a nightmare? 2013-10-02 14:22:23 i don tknow 2013-10-02 14:22:28 i havent tried :) 2013-10-02 14:22:34 but in theory, it should work 2013-10-02 14:22:54 i guess i should apk fix * ? 2013-10-02 14:23:00 only problem might be if you have things like postgresql 2013-10-02 14:23:16 or apk upgrade -U -a 2013-10-02 14:23:19 or does apk upgrade also downgrade? 2013-10-02 14:23:47 nah, it only has sqlite 2013-10-02 14:24:49 i just did apk update & apk upgrade 2013-10-02 14:24:51 ok gonna shoot myself :) 2013-10-02 14:26:02 wait I have edge in repos, will apk upgrade do an upgrade to 2.6.5 or edge? 2013-10-02 14:26:31 edge 2013-10-02 14:26:45 it will pick the newest packages found 2013-10-02 14:27:07 sorry 2013-10-02 14:27:22 I see it in /etc/apline-release 2013-10-02 14:29:56 ncopa: works like a charm 2013-10-02 14:30:13 lets see if it survives a reboot 2013-10-02 14:31:55 ACTION is a happy camper 2013-10-02 14:32:07 ncopa: im happy again! ;-) 2013-10-02 14:32:23 good :) 2013-10-02 15:19:34 aufs module is missing from the kernel image :( 2013-10-02 15:25:35 shomodj: aufs is not intree afaik? 2013-10-02 15:33:22 ubuntu 3.8.0-30 has it 2013-10-02 15:34:01 let me check 2013-10-02 15:35:38 clandmeter: yep you are right 2013-10-02 15:36:52 there was talk about adding a union fs to the kernel 2013-10-02 15:38:19 docker requires aufs 2013-10-02 15:41:24 overlayfs 2013-10-02 19:41:31 a question regarding lxc: 2013-10-02 19:41:44 http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/LXC says the following: 2013-10-02 19:41:50 Note that by default alpine template does not have networking service on, you will need to add it using lxc-console 2013-10-02 19:42:08 but i have no idea how to "add networking using lxc-console"!? 2013-10-02 19:44:59 I'm curious how the raspberry pi build is coming 2013-10-02 20:06:10 StarWarsFan: i think it just means rc-update add networking 2013-10-02 20:07:05 ah! 2013-10-02 20:07:07 thx :) 2013-10-02 21:03:36 yes, thx darkfader 2013-10-02 21:03:46 oh, I just looked for darkfader :) 2013-10-02 21:04:12 Do you have already a flashcache service script? 2013-10-02 21:04:14 StarWarsFan: note that cron and syslog services arent started also 2013-10-02 21:04:21 = init.d 2013-10-03 00:21:43 Hi, im running Alpine 2.6.5 from CD. After I backup my changes with lbu commit usb . How do I load the changes back after reboot? 2013-10-03 00:27:35 are the apkovl loaded automatically or do I need to mount the usb drive and extract the files myself? 2013-10-03 08:44:07 I have a problem with lxc 2013-10-03 08:44:36 Cgroup memory controller: missing 2013-10-03 08:44:42 User namespace: missing 2013-10-03 08:44:48 lxc-checkconfig 2013-10-03 08:45:04 but I added options to /boot/extlinux.conf 2013-10-03 08:45:10 cgroup_enable=memory swapaccount=1 2013-10-03 08:55:21 looks like missing config in the linux 2013-10-03 09:02:33 it works without it 2013-10-03 09:02:55 you can just not set memory limits per container 2013-10-03 09:03:03 and you dont have user lxc's 2013-10-03 09:03:13 i.e your containers must boot as root 2013-10-03 09:16:52 I know it work 2013-10-03 09:17:02 im fine with the root 2013-10-03 09:17:12 but would like memory limits 2013-10-03 09:18:06 will try and recompile the kernel 2013-10-03 09:18:09 i think there was a reason those was disabled... 2013-10-03 09:18:12 yeah 2013-10-03 09:18:18 you might need recompile kernel 2013-10-03 09:18:32 i think there was a minor penalty for mem limits 2013-10-03 09:19:04 how do I do that with abuild? 2013-10-03 09:19:16 want to use same kernel with same config 2013-10-03 09:19:22 as 2.6.5 2013-10-03 09:29:51 git clone git://git.alpinelinux.org/aports 2013-10-03 09:29:56 cd aports/main/linux-grsec 2013-10-03 09:30:15 2013-10-03 09:30:20 abuild checksum 2013-10-03 09:30:23 abuild -r 2013-10-03 09:30:25 oh 2013-10-03 09:30:37 you need a key first 2013-10-03 09:30:49 and your user account should be added to 'abuild' group 2013-10-03 09:31:23 abuild-keygen -a 2013-10-03 09:32:02 copy the ~/.abuild/*.pub keys to /etc/apk/keys on all boxes you want install your kernel (including build box) 2013-10-03 09:38:34 ncopa: thx a lot 2013-10-03 10:03:06 gcc: error: hardenednopie.specs: No such file or directory 2013-10-03 11:20:19 Hello @ all 2013-10-03 11:23:26 i have installed an alpine dom0 with 6 domUs (all are 2.6.5) - i have the following prob: when i transmit a lot of data with rsync from a other linux box to a domU the system hangs - anyone a idee fot this? 2013-10-03 11:58:29 cu @ all 2013-10-03 14:36:51 Anyone an idea regarding LanSpezi's problem? 2013-10-03 14:37:40 i dont use xen myself sorry... 2013-10-03 16:01:24 If I want to boot the kernel from network, it should be compiled against uclibc too, or? 2013-10-03 18:31:44 Hi, can I get some help? 2013-10-03 18:31:57 Herman_: is it for alpine linux? :) 2013-10-03 18:32:06 if not, no guarantees :D 2013-10-03 18:32:19 Yes, how can I restore a backup made with lbu 2013-10-03 18:32:30 I used lbu ci usb 2013-10-03 18:32:34 Herman_: lbu backups are just a tar.gz 2013-10-03 18:33:03 so just extract it? 2013-10-03 18:33:12 so in /media/usb/, you'll have .apkovl.tar.gz 2013-10-03 18:33:25 yeah, you can extract any files or all from it just like any other tar.gz 2013-10-03 18:33:25 yes 2013-10-03 18:34:29 ok, thanks 2013-10-03 18:34:58 np 2013-10-03 18:35:12 jbilyk_: i thought you were specially hired for the alpine mail client? 2013-10-03 18:35:20 clandmeter: :P 2013-10-03 18:41:03 which alpine mail client? :S 2013-10-03 18:46:47 other question: after extracting the apkovl. what is the best way to have the system read all the configurations, like hostname, etc 2013-10-03 18:48:06 restart services 2013-10-03 18:48:09 or just reboot 2013-10-03 18:48:57 ok, I'm running diskless so if I reboot is back to the begining. how can I restart ALL services? 2013-10-03 18:49:34 alpine should restore from the lbu backup 2013-10-03 18:49:49 if you have the apkovl on usb 2013-10-03 18:50:08 Herman_: what is your boot device? 2013-10-03 18:50:42 im booting from CD 2013-10-03 18:50:51 the apkovl saved on usb 2013-10-03 18:51:05 ok then you should be able to reboot 2013-10-03 18:51:27 init will scan for devices and see if it can find the apkovl 2013-10-03 18:51:55 you can set the location of backup in /etc/lbu.conf 2013-10-03 18:51:55 does it check for hostname on the filename? maybe thats my problem 2013-10-03 18:52:15 what is the device name of your usb? 2013-10-03 18:53:02 sdb1 and gest symlinked to /dev/usbdisk 2013-10-03 18:53:21 it doesnt automount it on boot though 2013-10-03 18:54:02 why not boot from usb? 2013-10-03 18:55:55 we have scripts to help you do that 2013-10-03 18:56:13 setup-bootable --help 2013-10-03 18:56:25 but your pc needs to be able to boot from usb 2013-10-03 18:56:55 yes, I liked the idea of booting from read only media 2013-10-03 18:57:36 if makes no sense if you store lbu on usb :) 2013-10-03 18:57:50 no sence is a bit too much 2013-10-03 18:58:08 lets say less sence 2013-10-03 18:58:08 yes I see what you mean... 2013-10-03 18:58:25 alpine is already safe 2013-10-03 18:58:33 still the lbu is only /etc and not /bin 2013-10-03 18:58:51 our packages are signed 2013-10-03 18:59:03 i was going to try encrypting the lbu 2013-10-03 18:59:07 and its always mounted as ro 2013-10-03 18:59:14 except when you lbu_commit 2013-10-03 18:59:25 but you can boot from cdrom 2013-10-03 18:59:33 and mount usb disk 2013-10-03 18:59:53 set it as lbu storage 2013-10-03 18:59:56 lbu_commit 2013-10-03 19:00:00 and you should be able to reboot 2013-10-03 19:00:14 but im not 100%, cause i never use cdrom anymore :) 2013-10-03 19:00:29 jbilyk_: do you still boot from cdrom? 2013-10-03 19:01:06 ok i guess usb is the recommended way then : ) 2013-10-03 19:02:34 thanks a lot 2013-10-03 19:02:54 what i know from init, it scan disks for the apkovl and extracts them 2013-10-03 19:03:13 based on the configs from the apkovl it will setup the system 2013-10-03 19:03:42 doesnt work when booting from cdrom 2013-10-03 19:04:29 what filesystem is your usb? 2013-10-03 19:04:54 FAT I would think, how can I check? 2013-10-03 19:05:17 when its mounted you can do: mount 2013-10-03 19:05:20 should mention fs 2013-10-03 19:05:50 it says type vfat 2013-10-03 19:06:00 ok 2013-10-03 19:06:06 thats should be supported 2013-10-03 19:06:48 and you moutned it has /media/usb? 2013-10-03 19:07:00 from what I checked it is set to noauto on fstab 2013-10-03 19:07:13 yes, I just do mount /dev/usbdisk 2013-10-03 19:07:29 gets mounted on /media/usb 2013-10-03 19:07:38 can you do: 2013-10-03 19:08:05 apk add sprunge && ls /media/usb |sprunge 2013-10-03 19:09:50 give me a few minutes, offline machine with alpine-mini.iso so it is not in my repos 2013-10-03 19:10:02 oh ok 2013-10-03 19:10:15 i just want to know the contents of usb 2013-10-03 19:16:44 ok, I didn't know about sprunge, pretty cool. its on sprunge.us/ObEG 2013-10-03 19:17:33 hmm that should be ok 2013-10-03 19:17:41 did you try to run setup-alpine ? 2013-10-03 19:21:01 yes, ran setup-alpine, set the hostname, set lbu to usb, then lbu ci then restart and the usb is not mounted and lbu not restored 2013-10-03 19:21:17 what did you set as hostname? 2013-10-03 19:21:24 cause the file is still localhost 2013-10-03 19:22:04 yes, first try I set it to alpinetest. now I just left it as localhost 2013-10-03 19:22:49 ok 2013-10-03 19:22:53 my thinking was if the cd starts booting as localhost maybe it will ignore my file if it has another naame, but not 2013-10-03 19:23:15 no that shouldnt matter afaik 2013-10-03 19:23:35 somehow alpine init cannot find your apkovl 2013-10-03 19:23:39 I think the problem is the usb does not get mounted 2013-10-03 19:23:58 maybe because of noauto on fstab 2013-10-03 19:24:08 no i dont think so 2013-10-03 19:24:15 cause thats after init 2013-10-03 19:24:20 http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/mkinitfs/tree/initramfs-init.in#n50 2013-10-03 19:25:00 it first does some things init and after will switch root 2013-10-03 19:26:35 http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/mkinitfs/tree/initramfs-init.in#n162 is to find your ovl_dev 2013-10-03 19:27:25 you think I need to increase delay? wait for usb??? 2013-10-03 19:27:34 you cannot 2013-10-03 19:27:43 or you need to modify the iso 2013-10-03 19:28:00 ah 2013-10-03 19:28:02 you could edit the boot menu at boot time 2013-10-03 19:28:11 and set some params 2013-10-03 19:28:39 thats why usb devices are easier 2013-10-03 19:29:31 yes i see. how can I add parameters at boot time? 2013-10-03 19:30:09 not sure if there is bootdelay 2013-10-03 19:31:14 there is a delay and I can type, just need to figure out the syntax 2013-10-03 19:31:40 I only boot cdrom to install, so i have not much experiance with your setup. 2013-10-03 19:32:09 ok thanks you helped a lot! 2013-10-03 19:32:55 not enough :) 2013-10-03 19:32:59 but i tried 2013-10-03 19:33:50 I hope you will enjoy alpine 2013-10-03 19:34:15 ncopa can probalby help you a bit further (he knows the internals better then me) 2013-10-03 19:35:42 thanks, really appreciate your help! will keep trying and come back with more questions 2013-10-03 19:37:45 you could try to format the disk again, or create a different fs like ext4 2013-10-03 19:37:51 maybe thats the issue 2013-10-03 19:42:08 ok i'll try that later, still trying to figure out the boot parameters... 2013-10-04 14:20:44 aloha! Dudes, I got a quick question. I will have to replace a few configuration files for a custom iso. I did not find any help from apk help, is there any way to find out which file is included in which apk? 2013-10-04 14:25:00 not really 2013-10-04 14:25:16 we save space in the APKINDEX by not include the file list 2013-10-04 14:25:41 so the only way to know what files in a package is to either install it or tar -zt it 2013-10-04 14:26:04 try: apk fetch --stdout | tar -zt 2013-10-04 14:27:12 well, if file is already installed in your system, then you can do: apk info --who-owns /path/to/file 2013-10-04 14:27:24 the only one missing is: I need to know which apk file provides /etc/profile 2013-10-04 14:27:38 ah, apk info --who-owns 2013-10-04 14:27:41 that one is helpful 2013-10-04 14:28:00 /etc/profile is owned by alpine-baselayout-2.2.0-r6 2013-10-04 14:28:02 bingo. thanks! 2013-10-04 14:28:13 np 2013-10-04 14:28:35 may I ask why Trusted Path Execution is not enabled in the grsec kernel? I mean, this is the one feature that makes grsec stand out from other solutions. 2013-10-04 21:17:01 n8@all 2013-10-05 13:56:59 hi 2013-10-05 13:57:11 I used setup-bootable to create a bootable usb stick 2013-10-05 13:57:36 welcome 2013-10-05 13:57:40 How can I be sure, that the ssh server will start? 2013-10-05 13:57:48 Before I reboot :D 2013-10-05 13:58:05 how can you be sure the bootloader works? 2013-10-05 13:58:34 You mean, it will start from the usb stick? 2013-10-05 13:58:39 if* 2013-10-05 13:58:50 yes 2013-10-05 13:59:00 i mean there are more things that can wrong 2013-10-05 13:59:07 there is no other bootable partition active 2013-10-05 13:59:10 I checked all twice 2013-10-05 13:59:18 next is the ssh server ... 2013-10-05 13:59:30 if you can restart it properly 2013-10-05 13:59:34 and you rc-update add it 2013-10-05 13:59:43 you can check rc also manually 2013-10-05 13:59:50 then it should start 2013-10-05 14:00:15 It's a remote machine 2013-10-05 14:00:26 but for instance, if there is no apk in cache or in your local repo. then it wont start cause its not available 2013-10-05 14:00:47 its one of the reason i told ncopa to include in alpine-mini 2013-10-05 14:24:56 ok, lets restart :) 2013-10-05 14:41:02 shafire: happy? 2013-10-05 14:41:09 not really 2013-10-05 14:41:16 got back to the rescue console 2013-10-05 14:41:26 I hate servers without KVM :) 2013-10-05 14:42:41 must the apkovl.tar.gz named after the hostname? 2013-10-05 14:42:47 or is there a generic name? 2013-10-05 14:43:03 it will be set to the currect hostname 2013-10-05 14:43:08 current 2013-10-05 14:43:17 I don't know the hostname at moment :S 2013-10-05 14:43:21 there is no must 2013-10-05 14:43:35 its not like alpine will read the filename 2013-10-05 14:43:54 it will load any *apkovl.tar.gz 2013-10-05 14:43:59 ah, ok 2013-10-05 14:44:16 the ones the follow the correct name convention 2013-10-05 14:44:28 it wont take one with dates (like backups) 2013-10-05 14:45:12 mh, need to try it out on another box 2013-10-05 14:45:17 with a monitor 2013-10-05 14:51:23 mh, hard to say, what's wrong 2013-10-05 14:56:49 clandmeter: you know https://github.com/philipl/pifs ? :) 2013-10-05 16:40:07 Welcome to Alpine! 2013-10-05 16:40:08 :) 2013-10-05 16:40:12 It worked, clandmeter 2013-10-05 16:41:58 How cool is that, lol :) 2013-10-05 16:42:56 running alpine on a usb stick on a 5eur ovh atom box 2013-10-05 16:43:02 an* 2013-10-05 16:50:01 that was easy 2013-10-05 16:50:03 awesome 2013-10-05 20:29:11 hi 2013-10-05 20:29:32 I run the setup-apkcache script 2013-10-05 20:30:54 But I can not add the fish package 2013-10-05 20:31:02 # apk add fish ERROR: unsatisfiable constraints: fish (missing): required by: world[fish] 2013-10-05 20:46:43 shafire: nice filesystem. yuou should start using it 2013-10-05 20:47:17 ah, fish is in edge 2013-10-05 20:47:22 yes 2013-10-05 20:47:30 you need to pin it 2013-10-05 20:57:03 shafire: tab completion works for you? 2013-10-05 20:57:06 in fish 2013-10-05 20:57:17 yes 2013-10-05 20:57:47 it errors for me 2013-10-05 20:58:00 fish: Unknown command 'apropos' 2013-10-05 21:00:58 mh 2013-10-05 21:01:03 I don't know, if I am doing it right 2013-10-05 21:01:19 apk add package and then lbu commit and it should survive the reboot? 2013-10-05 21:01:51 if you setup cache it should 2013-10-05 21:02:01 you can also apk cache sync to make sure 2013-10-05 21:02:07 I run setup-apkcache 2013-10-05 21:02:20 i never used that script 2013-10-05 21:02:32 setup-alpine or did it manually 2013-10-05 21:02:57 http://pastie.org/private/a6obtw4t9hen3ad48qw 2013-10-05 21:03:09 is that all? 2013-10-05 21:03:31 that should be it 2013-10-05 21:06:29 clandmeter: 2013-10-05 21:06:32 you are right 2013-10-05 21:06:34 buggy 2013-10-05 21:06:44 /usr/share/fish/functions/__fish_describe_command.fish (line 6): apropos $argv ^/dev/null | awk -v FS=" +- +" '{ 2013-10-05 21:06:50 apropos 2013-10-05 21:07:19 yes its missing man as dep 2013-10-05 21:07:32 mh, I will use zsh then 2013-10-05 21:07:40 apk add man fixes it 2013-10-05 21:07:45 i will add it 2013-10-05 21:08:00 do you like fish or zsh? 2013-10-05 21:08:29 kaniini: still sure it was ready for main? 2013-10-05 21:08:47 i always use regular shell 2013-10-05 21:08:53 but kaniini mentioned it was nice 2013-10-05 21:08:59 regular shell = ash? 2013-10-05 21:09:19 and now that you mention is again i tried it 2013-10-05 21:09:38 busybox uses ash 2013-10-05 21:10:09 what does the "installed" file in the cache dir? 2013-10-05 21:10:53 i have no idea 2013-10-05 21:11:06 ask fabled when you see him 2013-10-05 21:15:03 ok 2013-10-05 21:15:15 but it's so cool that it worked :) 2013-10-05 21:16:35 what worked? 2013-10-05 21:16:54 run alpine from tmpfs 2013-10-05 21:17:50 oh :) 2013-10-05 21:18:05 its nice 2013-10-05 21:18:26 most of my isntalles are based on it 2013-10-05 21:19:18 it's a cool method 2013-10-05 21:19:39 64mb ram is used at moment 2013-10-05 21:32:33 clandmeter: how do you bind a hdd to your setup? 2013-10-05 21:32:45 (which directory do you use for it?) 2013-10-05 21:32:56 /media 2013-10-05 21:33:14 everything in media? 2013-10-05 21:33:22 depends 2013-10-05 21:33:41 what i use for storage i do in /media 2013-10-05 21:33:52 and server stuff? 2013-10-05 21:34:02 how do you make the log files persistent? 2013-10-05 21:34:15 mount the disk as /var 2013-10-05 21:35:02 lbu should take care of /etc 2013-10-05 21:39:04 thanks 2013-10-05 22:22:10 see you tomorrow 2013-10-05 23:03:39 what linux is alpine based on? 2013-10-05 23:04:55 it was made from scratch 2013-10-05 23:05:37 I'm looking for something that is small, and can run with automatic updates for years (currently we use centos). Any chance I should look into alphone for this? 2013-10-05 23:06:00 sure why not 2013-10-05 23:06:01 :P 2013-10-05 23:06:32 so it wont explode after 2 years, when there is an automatic apt-get upgrade on a user's box, who does not know anything about linux? 2013-10-06 12:03:42 hi 2013-10-06 12:06:50 hi 2013-10-06 12:20:14 how are you? 2013-10-06 12:24:35 annoyed 2013-10-06 12:24:55 something is wrong with my precious 30" monitor :( 2013-10-06 12:25:27 what's wrong? 2013-10-06 12:26:09 it sends noise to the computer I connect it to 2013-10-06 13:32:31 jzono1: bad shielding 2013-10-06 13:32:54 or using different phase 2013-10-06 13:35:25 nah. there's something seriously wrong with it. 2013-10-06 13:36:22 just sitting there, powered on and not plugged in... it makes weird and annoying noises 2013-10-06 13:37:03 when I connect it... I get more noise than usual in my computer's power supply, and noise on usb-connected audio gear + usb dropouts 2013-10-07 06:23:11 morning 2013-10-07 06:24:01 codepython777: unfortunlly, we don't support things more than 2 years :-/ 2013-10-07 08:24:43 moin 2013-10-07 19:25:55 hi, booting from cdrom in a diskless setup apkovl does not load from usb unless I set ovl_dev=usbdisk:vfat on boot 2013-10-07 19:26:14 is this a bug? 2013-10-07 19:32:43 hernan: better create an issue on bugs.alpinelinux.org 2013-10-07 21:29:51 @ clandmeter: ok created bug 2269 2013-10-07 21:47:23 i forgot about the weekend 2013-10-08 04:41:43 moin 2013-10-08 13:30:40 hoi 2013-10-08 13:30:59 anyone heard about cjdns? 2013-10-08 14:06:16 hi 2013-10-08 14:06:32 nope 2013-10-08 15:12:50 hi all. I have a question for you guys as I am a bit in a rush. I have created custom apks and built a custom iso image. everything is fine. except that my rebuilt openssh does not get included/run when booting the live cd. it is present in the cdrom repository however and will install (apk add) just fine. Can you give me a hint how to enforce inclusion in the livecd? 2013-10-08 15:13:09 I 2013-10-08 15:13:33 I'd like to have openssh files be present in the filesystem and autostart just as if it was installed. 2013-10-08 15:13:49 in the meantime I will grep on. I hope someone has a quick hint for me. 2013-10-08 15:14:14 Chotaire: do you lbu ci? 2013-10-08 15:15:16 no it is not meant to save any data, everything should already be included on the cd. 2013-10-08 15:16:11 an installation to HDD is not planned. 2013-10-08 15:16:24 you dont need to install to hd 2013-10-08 15:16:33 Chotaire, it's included in the iso's apks folder, or separate folder? 2013-10-08 15:16:37 if you dont have option for usb 2013-10-08 15:17:10 oh 2013-10-08 15:17:18 you need to include the apkovl in the cdrom 2013-10-08 15:17:25 Chotaire, i think you just apk add it, rc-update it to start, and lbu commit 2013-10-08 15:17:31 the include that in cdrom 2013-10-08 15:17:46 i think its documented on wiki 2013-10-08 15:18:14 i really need to create an apkovl for the sole purpose of apk add something that is already on the isofs? 2013-10-08 15:19:20 you can apk add it 2013-10-08 15:19:23 i could just run "apk add openssh" after boot but that is really not neat. 2013-10-08 15:19:23 just dont reboot 2013-10-08 15:20:20 you need to ovl so alpine knows which pkg you want installed 2013-10-08 15:20:37 err s/want/have 2013-10-08 15:20:39 i dont need to preserve any saved files. that is why i wonder why an apkovl is required. should I need custom files i would modify an existing apk? 2013-10-08 15:20:51 hm 2013-10-08 15:21:31 apk will look in /etc/apk/world and installes those apks. the cdrom does not have this. 2013-10-08 15:21:57 but the cdrom will setup your system in memory 2013-10-08 15:26:21 ok so just to sum this up. in order to have a livecd apk add an openssh apk which is already present in the isofs, i will have to boot that livecd, apk add it manually, rc-update it so it autostarts and then lbu commit it and include the overlay on the cd-rom? 2013-10-08 15:28:26 I wish the livecd would read a config file which would define what to include/start. The overlay solution is kind of not as clean as I had hoped. Did I get this right? If so, thanks for your help. 2013-10-08 15:30:08 correct 2013-10-08 15:30:12 and i think the info is on wiki 2013-10-08 15:41:30 Hmmm. Since I have already created a fully custom iso which is already including my custom apks and I am not intending to preserve any files that are created after boot of the livecd i can't believe that an overlay is the only way to apk add an apk to a livecd. I'd like to do that in one go. 2013-10-08 15:41:45 Booting a cooked iso, then creating an overlay to recook it sounds kind of... unnecessary. Does anyone have an idea where Alpine Linux stores the list of apks to be booted by the live cd? 2013-10-08 15:41:53 I'd like to modify alpine-iso instead. 2013-10-08 15:43:09 i already told you 2013-10-08 15:43:49 if you want to hack on alpine, you should start by checking alpine's init 2013-10-08 16:52:14 Chotaire: you can dump an localhost.apkovl.tar.gz in the root of the ISO 2013-10-08 16:52:32 Chotaire: make sure it has openssh in /etc/apk/world of the apkovl 2013-10-08 16:52:53 Chotaire: we use a similar method to netboot nodes into xen and autosync them with our ganglia-based monitoring 2013-10-08 16:54:14 Chotaire: the package manager uses a ruleset called the world file, so you would need an apkovl to override the defaults. you could hack the iso itself, but such a patch is not likely to be accepted, as it is not the alpine way of doing it 2013-10-08 16:55:10 i am currently hacking alpine-baselayout and see how it works. cooking an iso, creating an overlay and recooking the iso is not a nice way of cooking an iso. well, you get what I mean ;) 2013-10-08 16:55:46 it's hard to automate this. 2013-10-08 17:08:16 it is easy for us... we have a python service that generates it 2013-10-08 17:08:22 using mac address 2013-10-08 17:10:11 kaniini: it's easy if no new overlays have to get created on cooking a new iso with updates. 2013-10-08 17:10:22 like if it only has to include /etc/apk/world 2013-10-08 17:10:48 Chotaire: you do know you can do 2013-10-08 17:11:06 Chotaire: apkovl='http://ip.he.r.e/apkovlgen?mac={mac}' 2013-10-08 17:11:14 (or something like that) 2013-10-08 17:11:20 {mac} is replaced with the mac address 2013-10-08 17:11:23 ;) 2013-10-08 17:11:54 well 2013-10-08 17:12:00 i am not really sure what you are doing 2013-10-08 17:12:02 lol 2013-10-08 17:19:30 kaniini: i am trying to create an automatism to periodically re-cook a custom iso, it is for a single instance only and all I need is openssh to start automatically on the livecd. Maybe an apkovl that just includes an /etc/apk/world file would do just that and so that ovl never needs an update. 2013-10-08 17:19:59 what you did there is impressive but since this is a single instance which the livecd will be used on it is way over the top. 2013-10-08 19:53:05 /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt <- what apk is responsible for this? 2013-10-08 21:55:48 jzono1: ca-certificates 2013-10-09 06:31:15 hi 2013-10-09 06:32:15 Running from tmpfs is really cool 2013-10-09 18:12:48 Hi! I am planning to install Alpine on my "micro" VPS (128MB mem, 1G disk). Will it be able to install with such a low memory and disk space? 2013-10-09 18:16:51 depends what you want to run with it... but yes, that should be enough for basic stuff. 2013-10-09 18:28:57 fabled: mumble server only 2013-10-09 18:29:24 fabled: just want to keep it simple and secure, 1 service running. 2013-10-09 18:31:59 jzbl: running from tmpfs needs 50mb 2013-10-09 18:32:32 who is your provider? 2013-10-09 19:21:33 shafire: sorry, had a phone call :) edis.at 2013-10-09 19:21:49 ah edis 2013-10-09 19:24:13 shafire: not the best offer cash-wise, however their network, stability and support is very good. Latency for voice server is my main concern there. 2013-10-09 19:40:52 thx 2013-10-09 22:41:46 * Waiting for clamav database download ... 2013-10-09 22:41:51 ACTION watches this 2013-10-09 22:41:55 for a few hours now 2013-10-09 22:42:02 and decides to call it a day 2013-10-10 07:20:35 could anyone test the following for me: 2013-10-10 07:20:43 if you have xen vm booting via pygrub 2013-10-10 07:21:07 and you edit the kernel options to go to single user, by adding "s" at the end of the line 2013-10-10 07:21:15 pygrub can't find the kernel? 2013-10-10 07:21:35 with the line not edited, it'll work? 2013-10-10 07:22:17 actually, it happens if you do any change 2013-10-10 07:22:20 apparently 2013-10-10 07:23:26 oh my. 2013-10-10 07:23:38 <[Echelon]> err, I assume you're talking of editing the menu.lst file? 2013-10-10 07:23:58 well (py)grub lets you do boot-time changes to it 2013-10-10 07:24:10 <[Echelon]> well, yes. 2013-10-10 07:24:25 <[Echelon]> but afaik, single user is indicated by adding 'single' to the end of the kernel string... 2013-10-10 07:24:29 <[Echelon]> not 's' 2013-10-10 07:24:47 <[Echelon]> quotes removed, of course. 2013-10-10 07:24:54 <[Echelon]> i.e. kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/xvda2 ro 2013-10-10 07:24:55 ok, i'll try with single (it's 's' on any unix around, so i kinda assumed that 2013-10-10 07:25:00 <[Echelon]> err. 2013-10-10 07:25:05 <[Echelon]> /vmlinuz root=/dev/xvda2 ro single 2013-10-10 07:25:15 but it doesnt relate to the bug :/ 2013-10-10 07:25:17 <[Echelon]> replace directories/devices accordingly. 2013-10-10 07:25:33 you even get the problem if you just remove "quiet" 2013-10-10 07:26:27 <[Echelon]> what do you see in your xend.log? 2013-10-10 07:27:04 <[Echelon]> should also be a bootloader log in /var/log/xen/ 2013-10-10 07:27:28 no error in bootloader.log 2013-10-10 07:27:34 <[Echelon]> Odd. 2013-10-10 07:27:37 it blows up when tryign to launch 2013-10-10 07:27:50 <[Echelon]> hmph. 2013-10-10 07:27:59 <[Echelon]> On any kernel or just this particular one? 2013-10-10 07:28:02 any 2013-10-10 07:28:13 Traceback (most recent call last): 2013-10-10 07:28:13 File "/usr/lib/xen/bin/pygrub", line 876, in 2013-10-10 07:28:16 raise RuntimeError, "Unable to find partition containing kernel" 2013-10-10 07:28:20 <[Echelon]> hm. 2013-10-10 07:28:22 as soon as you change any of the arguments 2013-10-10 07:28:30 from the APPEND line 2013-10-10 07:28:42 <[Echelon]> pastebin your grub menu.lst? 2013-10-10 07:29:31 you understand it does work if i don't touch it? 2013-10-10 07:29:39 <[Echelon]> yes. 2013-10-10 07:30:03 ok, give me a minute since i need to mount the disk elsewhere 2013-10-10 07:30:20 <[Echelon]> Doesn't change the fact that it would still help grasp what's going on a bit further if we can see the menu.lst that pyGrub is parsing. 2013-10-10 07:33:11 it's an exlinux.conf, there's something royger made so those work 2013-10-10 07:33:12 http://paste.ie/view/be2b9240 2013-10-10 07:33:35 can i have a menu.lst for alpine and it'll be updated? 2013-10-10 07:37:53 i'll brb need to drive to work, i'm late already 2013-10-10 07:37:57 <[Echelon]> hm. interesting. 2013-10-10 07:38:11 <[Echelon]> I'd say dump the UUID for a device. 2013-10-10 07:39:48 <[Echelon]> granted, that shouldn't cause an issue having the UUID either way, but it's odd none the less that any modification to the string causes issues. 2013-10-10 08:10:58 <[Echelon]> On another note, anyone had luck with compiling mysql-connector-odbc on latest alpine? -.- 2013-10-10 08:33:53 [Echelon]: will test 2013-10-10 08:35:39 for rq in s s r c ; do xl sysrq vfile $rq ; done (note to self, don't jsut think about adding a sleep there, DO it 2013-10-10 08:42:35 [Echelon]: changed it to root=/dev/xvda3 and it still explodes. but to do that i mounted the disks on another box and removed the clamav start so now i have a system that boots to login again 2013-10-10 08:42:54 (after that i could ssh in and update-extlinux etc. so it showed /dev/xvda3) 2013-10-10 08:43:14 but needed to go to singleuser due to clamav so it's much more relaxed now 2013-10-10 08:43:24 i just wonder why noone else hit that 2013-10-10 09:14:46 <[Echelon]> sounds like you're just unlucky. ;p 2013-10-10 09:21:36 pygrub is crap 2013-10-10 09:21:39 just use pv-grub 2013-10-10 09:21:42 save yourself the pain 2013-10-10 09:23:54 kaniini: then it should simply be removed from the sources with that exact statement 2013-10-10 09:28:24 darkfader: please open a bug on the alpine tracker and i will be sure that your request is processed in xen-4.3.0-r3 2013-10-10 09:29:04 ok 2013-10-10 09:29:10 ;) 2013-10-10 09:29:15 but in all seriousness 2013-10-10 09:29:18 just use pv-grub 2013-10-10 09:29:19 i'll try to document alpine/pv-grub as i set it up 2013-10-10 09:29:34 i'll add a package that does the same thing as update-extlinux 2013-10-10 09:31:03 hmm why? as far as i understood it, pv-grub botos the vm in hvm, steals the kernel/initrd and then builds the pv hvm? or does it still parse the "menu.lst"? 2013-10-10 09:32:26 s/botos/boots/ hehe 2013-10-10 09:33:01 it boots grub 2013-10-10 09:33:03 in pvm 2013-10-10 09:33:15 and then basically does kexec 2013-10-10 09:33:23 it is a better and more secure way of doing things 2013-10-10 09:33:43 pygrub is just crap because you should assume all VMs are untrusted and pygrub copies stuff from the target VM 2013-10-10 09:34:20 i'll not disagree 2013-10-10 09:34:30 it's an abstraction fuckup ever since 2013-10-10 09:34:58 $back then we had used it with pypxeboot and all this 2013-10-10 09:35:05 that was nice, but hella broken too 2013-10-10 14:13:08 kaniini: do i see that correctly that pv-grub wants a 2013-10-10 14:13:17 extra = "(hd0)/boot/grub/menu.lst" line? 2013-10-10 14:14:12 ACTION tries without 2013-10-10 14:14:59 yes 2013-10-10 14:15:08 you have to tell it where to look 2013-10-10 14:15:21 so it has less functionality than pygrub at that point 2013-10-10 14:15:56 yes, but it's better from a security pov 2013-10-10 14:16:08 yeah great 2013-10-10 14:18:03 sometimes xen is just the most incoherent mess in IT history 2013-10-10 14:22:35 and is it possible it can't boot the system off a partitioned hd0? 2013-10-10 14:22:50 so, as if you gave root=(hd0,0) at grub time 2013-10-10 14:24:15 ah, so actually you need to know for each vm exactly how it's partitioned and set that in the domU config 2013-10-10 14:25:09 so, pygrub could do two things: locate grub config and read/boot it. pv-grub can do only the second part. but this is not a security thing at all since it could as well detect it just as i pass it via cmd line 2013-10-10 14:25:22 50% functionality isn't there, period 2013-10-10 15:40:52 Anyone here experienced in Alpine linux apk overlays? 2013-10-10 16:23:37 What package is the "w" command in in alpine? 2013-10-10 16:24:35 What is 'w' supposed to do? 2013-10-10 16:26:32 You mean 'who' 2013-10-10 16:27:08 You should already have 'who' 2013-10-10 16:28:10 Running programs 2013-10-10 16:47:50 what is "edge-musl" repo for?? 2013-10-10 16:48:28 it's the experimental build of edge against musl C-library; eventually at somepoint it will evolve to alpine 3.0 2013-10-10 16:50:18 does that means that it would become impossible to upgrade from 2.6 stable to 3.0 when it becomes stable? 2013-10-10 16:51:01 apk should be able to handle upgrade 2013-10-10 16:51:15 and on lbu based systems it's just matter of reboot anyway 2013-10-10 16:51:33 but it'll mean that mixing packages from 2.x to 3.x is not possible 2013-10-10 16:51:48 fabled, if I want to start packaging should I remove edge and replace it with edge-musl? 2013-10-10 16:52:04 not yet 2013-10-10 16:52:15 it's very experimental 2013-10-10 16:52:25 and no x86_64 in edge-musl yet 2013-10-10 16:52:29 though, it does have arm 2013-10-10 16:52:33 but spec files should work latter I guess or? 2013-10-10 16:52:38 yes 2013-10-10 16:52:41 :) 2013-10-10 16:52:47 no major changes to APKBUILDs 2013-10-10 16:52:50 then its fine 2013-10-10 16:52:59 in aports git repository it's the same tree 2013-10-10 16:53:05 the builder settings are just different 2013-10-10 16:53:25 so in aports.git you will only ever have edge 2013-10-10 16:53:34 aha so just binary packages are different at the end cuz compiled against musl 2013-10-10 16:53:36 both edge and edge-musl are built from same exact set of APKBUILDs 2013-10-10 16:53:40 correct 2013-10-10 16:53:45 thnx 2013-10-10 16:53:58 u just saved my day 2013-10-10 16:54:10 fabled: I can't get mine to read an overlay 2013-10-10 16:55:18 Niichan, you should have exactly one overlay 2013-10-10 16:55:27 fabled: I do 2013-10-10 16:55:43 works for me 2013-10-10 16:55:55 i have rpi.apkovl.tar.gz 2013-10-10 16:56:09 the first part does not matter; as long as it ends in .apkovl.tar.gz 2013-10-10 16:56:48 ok. i'm off for the rest of night. have fun. 2013-10-10 21:54:48 Hi #alpine-linux 2013-10-11 06:05:32 Hello! I have a question about tinc and bonding. 2013-10-11 06:05:32 I created two tunnels tinc with interfaces tun0 and tun1. I combined the tunnels in the interface bond0. 2013-10-11 06:05:32 I use bonding mode balance-rr with arp monitoring (arp_interval=200), as MII for tun/tap interfaces does not work as I need. 2013-10-11 06:05:32 I used the following scheme: server1 -> uplink1&uplink2 -> switch -> ISP1&ISP2 -> server2 2013-10-11 06:05:32 I conduct a test. I start to ping the server on the other side. 2013-10-11 06:05:33 Now, if I unplug the cable from the ISP1 of the switch, then tun0 MII status changes to down, but still ping is interrupted for 30 seconds. 2013-10-11 06:05:33 This behavior is due to the bonding driver or require special configuration tinc? 2013-10-11 06:05:34 Thanks in advance. 2013-10-11 07:57:39 jakal, i believe tinc does it's own routing, so you might very well need something additional in it 2013-10-11 08:14:28 fabled: Server1 is connected to two ISP. So on server1 I use two tinc daemon with different configuration files. Since on server1 tun0 and tun1 use the exact same NETNAME. 2013-10-11 08:14:57 The fact is that I want to use tinc to transmit VoIP traffic from server2 to other servers. That's why I want to avoid such long delays. 2013-10-11 08:15:09 In order for VoIP call is not broken in an accident at one of the ISPs. 2013-10-11 08:15:21 And as tinc can build meta-connections, it is very convenient to direct internal VoIP calls directly between points. 2013-10-11 08:16:15 jakal, i think there's internal convergence time in tinc until it fails over the routes 2013-10-11 08:19:11 I tried OpenNHRP, but I use Debian. I have to recompile Debian kernel to support OpenNHRP, but I sometimes hang IPSec session. So I had to give up OpenNHRP. 2013-10-11 08:19:58 ipsec-tools I also recompiled with patches of alpine-linux 2013-10-11 08:23:37 jakal, as long as using alpine patches, and phase1 dead hook along with dpd, you should not have issues 2013-10-11 08:26:43 fabled: I used the patches of alpine linux, DPD and still have it once a week, one of the IPSec tunnel deadlock. 2013-10-11 08:27:04 did you have phase1 dead hook configured properly? 2013-10-11 08:28:02 script "/etc/opennhrp/racoon-ph1dead.sh" phase1_dead; 2013-10-11 08:28:32 cat /etc/opennhrp/racoon-ph1dead.sh 2013-10-11 08:28:32 #!/bin/sh 2013-10-11 08:28:32 opennhrpctl cache lowerdown nbma $REMOTE_ADDR local-nbma $LOCAL_ADDR 2013-10-11 08:28:42 and 90-dead-on-initial-contact.patch was applied ? 2013-10-11 08:28:46 Yes 2013-10-11 08:28:53 that's weird 2013-10-11 08:29:33 and dpd_delay defined in config ? 2013-10-11 08:30:06 I agree. I suffered 3 months with this situation and just tired. 2013-10-11 08:30:06 Yeap, dpd_delay 20; 2013-10-11 08:30:53 i use longer delays 2013-10-11 08:30:59 mmm 2013-10-11 08:31:05 but yes racoon is not perfect 2013-10-11 08:31:25 i've been having the idea of rewriting a good IKE; but have not got to it yet. 2013-10-11 08:31:33 seems there always something more important 2013-10-11 08:31:58 It is clear. :) 2013-10-11 08:32:04 i hope racoon-ph1dead.sh was executable 2013-10-11 08:32:16 i messed up once by having the script, but it failed to execute 2013-10-11 08:32:22 4.0K -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 80 Jul 19 13:40 /etc/opennhrp/racoon-ph1dead.sh* 2013-10-11 08:32:58 which routing you used on top? or it was gre IP addresses directly? 2013-10-11 08:33:46 there's been few bugs in quagga as well that make it lose routes in certain cases 2013-10-11 08:34:10 so i wonder if the disconnect was IPsec level, or routing level 2013-10-11 08:35:29 So I decided to switch to tinc. Since tinc is able to build their own meta-connections. 2013-10-11 08:35:29 I use quagga. At the hub I used quagga with priority 254, on nods with priority 0. 2013-10-11 08:36:16 So the central server was, in a sense, OSPF router. 2013-10-11 08:36:37 yes, i remember basics of tinc. but wanted something standards compliant. so i'm using racoon+opennhrp+quagga/bgp 2013-10-11 08:37:42 Quagga worked as it should. Just occasionally hung IPSec session, the connection was lost and OSPF multihop lost. 2013-10-11 08:38:45 sounds racoon bug 2013-10-11 08:39:08 i had similar, but haven't seen them after the 90-dead-on-initial-contact.patch 2013-10-11 08:40:45 I could not get to work quagga as BGP router. 90-dead-on-initial-contact.patch also worked as it should. In the log files racoon I've seen posts INITIAL CONTACT 2013-10-11 08:41:32 If I delete a hung session through racoonctl, then everything starts to work again as it should. 2013-10-11 08:43:23 ok. that's definitely racoon bug then. 2013-10-11 08:45:44 fabled: That's what I thought because everything else worked like clockwork. Is it possible to combine the GRE interfaces in the bonding and the use OpenNHRP? 2013-10-11 08:46:22 i have not tried 2013-10-11 14:52:03 how can I print out my current keyboard layout? 2013-10-12 08:55:50 hi 2013-10-12 09:33:25 how can I upgrade to the testing kernel? 2013-10-12 09:38:12 kernel is in edge 2013-10-12 09:38:14 ok 2013-10-12 15:25:17 shafire: re current keyboard layout. 2013-10-12 15:25:27 are you looking for something like this? 2013-10-12 15:25:48 grep KEYMAP /etc/conf.d/keymaps 2013-10-12 15:26:02 (run 'setup-keymap' to set a keymap) 2013-10-12 15:26:05 yep thanks 2013-10-12 15:26:34 how is the rpi? :) 2013-10-12 15:26:39 Nice :-) 2013-10-12 15:26:50 Tweaking my irssi right now 2013-10-12 15:27:07 I want to get this too: http://valentfx.com/fpga-logi-family/logi-pi 2013-10-12 15:27:11 I would like to have fbcon working on this (don't know if its possible) 2013-10-12 15:28:37 ACTION thinks logi-pi is cool - I want one too :-) 2013-10-12 15:36:31 yeah 2013-10-13 09:16:23 hi 2013-10-13 17:05:01 evening! 2013-10-13 17:05:10 anybody here with lxc knowhow? 2013-10-13 17:05:26 heh 2013-10-13 17:05:32 ncopa uses lxc, I think 2013-10-13 17:05:34 ACTION is experimenting with lxc and the description from http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/LXC 2013-10-13 17:05:38 are you using at moment? 2013-10-13 17:05:45 using it* 2013-10-13 17:06:01 try to bring it up but networking is not working 2013-10-13 17:06:17 # /etc/init.d/networking start 2013-10-13 17:06:17 * Starting networking ... * eth0 ...Error: this script should be called from udhcpc 2013-10-13 17:06:17 [ !! ] 2013-10-13 17:06:17 * ERROR: networking failed to start 2013-10-13 17:07:08 Does a lxc container show only the assigned memory? 2013-10-13 17:07:41 is this question network related? 2013-10-13 17:07:59 no 2013-10-13 17:08:14 It's my own question, sorry 2013-10-13 17:10:16 you have an lxc-container running? 2013-10-13 17:10:58 No, I never tested lxc 2013-10-13 17:11:17 But I had the same error long time ago, but I don't know, in which situation 2013-10-13 17:11:22 ok 2013-10-13 17:15:05 Sry, can't help you at moment 2013-10-13 17:23:46 ah! found something... 2013-10-13 17:23:56 my host is using static ip 2013-10-13 17:24:06 but container by default tries to use dhcp 2013-10-13 17:24:26 so even if there is the ip for the container assigned on his config file 2013-10-13 17:24:29 it is not used 2013-10-13 17:24:49 after changing /etc/networking/interfaces 2013-10-13 17:24:50 from 2013-10-13 17:24:55 auto eth0 2013-10-13 17:24:55 iface eth0 inet static 2013-10-13 17:24:56 to 2013-10-13 17:25:04 auto eth0 2013-10-13 17:25:04 iface eth0 inet static 2013-10-13 17:25:09 network is coming up 2013-10-13 17:25:11 :-) 2013-10-13 17:25:38 i mean /etc/networking/interfaces on the container 2013-10-13 17:26:02 so you changed nothing? :D 2013-10-13 17:26:16 dhcp -> static 2013-10-13 17:45:15 got it! 2013-10-13 17:45:27 another option on container config was missing 2013-10-13 17:46:45 i've added these two lines to bring up the container with static ip and proper gateway 2013-10-13 17:46:49 lxc.network.ipv4 = 10.42.23.217 2013-10-13 17:46:49 lxc.network.ipv4.gateway = 10.42.23.46 2013-10-13 17:47:16 so container has ip 10.42.23.217 and uses 10.42.23.46 as its gateway 2013-10-13 17:47:17 :-) 2013-10-13 17:49:02 the gateway is the host ip or another? 2013-10-13 17:49:12 another 2013-10-13 17:49:18 host uses the same gateway 2013-10-13 17:49:24 ok 2013-10-13 18:05:38 updated http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/LXC :-) 2013-10-13 18:06:51 :) 2013-10-13 21:39:59 bye 2013-10-14 05:02:09 Moinmoin 2013-10-14 05:02:16 morning 2013-10-14 05:27:13 Hi 2013-10-14 05:59:11 hm, still got some problem with my lxc container :-( 2013-10-14 05:59:36 i can ping from the container to the outside 2013-10-14 05:59:38 but: 2013-10-14 05:59:48 /etc/init.d/networking start 2013-10-14 05:59:48 * Starting networking ... * eth0 ...ifup: don't seem to have all the variables for eth0/inet 2013-10-14 05:59:48 [ !! ] 2013-10-14 05:59:48 * ERROR: networking failed to start 2013-10-14 06:00:19 so even ssh can't because it says, networking is not started :-/ 2013-10-14 06:00:58 did anyone bring up an lxc container with a static IP? 2013-10-14 06:05:01 Good morning. I have static IP on lxc containers 2013-10-14 06:06:26 Question: I your /etc/lxc/lxc.conf - do you have: 2013-10-14 06:07:28 lxc.network.type = macvlan 2013-10-14 06:07:28 lxc.network.mavlan.mode.bridge=bridge 2013-10-14 06:07:28 lxc.network.link = {nic-of-your-lxc-controlling-host} 2013-10-14 06:07:28 lxc.network.name = eth0 (or some other suitable name for the lxc.container) 2013-10-14 06:07:33 --- 2013-10-14 06:07:50 I guess it could be done in other ways - but this is what I successfully have 2013-10-14 06:09:17 got only the three entries as described on 17709.pts-4.flieger 2013-10-14 06:09:23 (This file is used as a template for the various lxc containers, so you will need to modify the lxc.conf for each container in order to get some result - I don't know if it is enough just to modify the /var/lib/lxc/{container}/config 2013-10-14 06:09:24 ups, wrong 2013-10-14 06:09:34 got only the three entries as described on http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/LXC 2013-10-14 06:10:03 and modified the specific container conf as desribed there too 2013-10-14 06:10:16 so: 2013-10-14 06:10:25 # cat /etc/lxc/lxc.conf 2013-10-14 06:10:25 lxc.network.type = veth 2013-10-14 06:10:25 lxc.network.link = br0 2013-10-14 06:10:25 lxc.network.flags = up 2013-10-14 06:10:40 I haven't tested 'veth' type 2013-10-14 06:10:58 so I cant tell how that will work - but as it is documented that way, I guess it should work 2013-10-14 06:11:58 Do you have 'br0' on your lxc controlling host? 2013-10-14 06:12:04 you modified /etc/network/interfaces on the host? 2013-10-14 06:12:17 yes 2013-10-14 06:12:59 No - didn't modify /etc/networking/interfaces on the host (nothing that had anything to do with lxc) 2013-10-14 06:13:21 but on the wiki page this is written as necessary!? 2013-10-14 06:13:48 see "prepare network on host" 2013-10-14 06:13:59 Yes - that is because in that example you need to create the 'br0' (which is not there as default) 2013-10-14 06:14:07 right 2013-10-14 06:14:10 so i did 2013-10-14 06:14:44 In my config (the one I pasted some minutes ago) I use the eth0.123 (where 123 is a VLAN id) 2013-10-14 06:15:52 so you use /etc/network/interfaces on the host with defaults and macvlan type on your container? 2013-10-14 06:18:16 Yes (sort of) (I set up vlans in /etc/network/interfaces - but other than that it's standard) 2013-10-14 06:19:17 you set the ip of the container on its specific config file? 2013-10-14 06:19:26 or on it's own /etc/network/interfaces? 2013-10-14 06:19:40 It's done in the containers /etc/network/interfaces 2013-10-14 06:25:39 mhavela: there is no "c" on lxc.network.mavlan.mode.bridge=bridge? 2013-10-14 06:25:52 "mavlan" vs. "macvlan"? 2013-10-14 06:26:13 sorry - my bad 2013-10-14 06:26:19 I didn't copy/paste 2013-10-14 06:26:25 so it should say 'macvlan' 2013-10-14 06:38:22 morning 2013-10-14 06:38:41 mhavela: do you know if it is possible to let guest talk with host with macvlan? 2013-10-14 06:39:06 lets say i have a host with 1 public ip addr 2013-10-14 06:39:23 and set up a dummy0 interface for guests 2013-10-14 06:39:41 so they can talk with each other, and let the host do NAT 2013-10-14 06:39:48 can that be done with macvlan? 2013-10-14 06:40:41 Hmm... Actually I don't know 2013-10-14 06:41:00 i also wonder if it would be an idea to use openvswitch... 2013-10-14 06:41:08 Just checked my setup and I don't have a IP on the lxc.host on the vlan where the lxc.container is 2013-10-14 06:41:08 but thats maybe overkill 2013-10-14 06:41:31 i tried set that up with macvlan last friday but didnt make it work 2013-10-14 06:41:38 Maybe StarWarsFan can answer it - I think he's trying out macvlan as we speak :-) 2013-10-14 06:41:46 so i set up a traditional bridge instead 2013-10-14 06:47:31 ncopa: I just set IP-address on the lxc.host (on the vlan where the lxc.container(s) are located). 2013-10-14 06:47:31 Now a lxc.container can ping lxc.host 2013-10-14 06:48:09 but it did look like it struggled to manage pinging (first ping took approx 2000ms) 2013-10-14 06:48:16 at first i need to find out how to set vlan stuff on /etc/network/interfaces on host... 2013-10-14 06:50:56 StarWarsFan: apk add vlan 2013-10-14 06:50:58 StarWarsFan: Add this in addition to your 'eth0' configuration (in /etc/network/interfaces @lxc.host) 2013-10-14 06:50:58 auto eth0.123 2013-10-14 06:50:58 iface eth0.123 inet manual 2013-10-14 06:50:58 up ip link set $IFACE up 2013-10-14 06:50:58 down ip link set $IFACE down 2013-10-14 06:51:08 http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Vlan 2013-10-14 06:51:45 great, thx, i'm on it... 2013-10-14 07:03:36 mhavela: so i should deactivate the bridge config and reactivate the default, right? 2013-10-14 07:03:55 and additionally the part you gave me above? 2013-10-14 07:09:48 I think so 2013-10-14 07:16:12 °/39 2013-10-14 07:16:15 sry 2013-10-14 07:37:22 ok, networking is working now on the container 2013-10-14 07:37:30 and i can ping the host 2013-10-14 07:37:34 but that's it 2013-10-14 07:37:40 ping to the outside not working 2013-10-14 07:38:57 does anyone have idea how to resolve this? http://pastebin.com/BZtaz9rV 2013-10-14 07:42:22 hm .. purging vlc* seems to get apt upgrade going .. thnx anyway 2013-10-14 07:43:43 aha apt add vlc adds the same problem again 2013-10-14 07:44:11 infact ffmpeg-libs 2013-10-14 10:47:48 any pkg available similar to ctdb (ctdb.samba.org) ? 2013-10-14 14:13:43 can`t find mariadb only mysql is this ok or just my box? 2013-10-14 14:15:55 thats current state 2013-10-14 14:16:05 we dotn have mariadb 2013-10-14 14:16:08 we have mysql 2013-10-14 14:16:21 for 2 reasons 2013-10-14 14:16:33 1) nobody had time to do the switch 2013-10-14 14:16:35 to mariadb 2013-10-14 14:16:37 thnx ncopa ... will mysql stay for a while? yes please tell me 2013-10-14 14:16:45 and 2 2013-10-14 14:16:55 2) i am not yet convinced that mariadb is worth it 2013-10-14 14:17:19 mysql will stay for alpine v2.7 2013-10-14 14:17:33 as long v2.7 is maintained 2013-10-14 14:17:40 me neither but everybody seems to go there for myself pesonaly I`ll rather use postgresql for owncloud 2013-10-14 14:17:55 we might upgrade to mysql 5.6 though 2013-10-14 14:18:06 i actually had a look at mysql vs mariadb this morning 2013-10-14 14:18:23 looks like mysql-5.6 beats mariadb if you have many cores (16+) 2013-10-14 14:18:24 and there are some diff 2013-10-14 14:18:37 nice 2013-10-14 14:18:43 mysql 5.5 and mariadb not so big diff, a little 2013-10-14 14:18:52 but mysql 5.6 does it much better 2013-10-14 14:19:01 yeah .. setup script is same too 2013-10-14 14:19:17 so i think we might stick to mysql 2013-10-14 14:19:33 for alpine v2.7 we will for sure 2013-10-14 14:19:41 due to not enough time 2013-10-14 14:20:07 nice .. I`m setting up owncloud on some small machine and I would not like to reinstall after few months 2013-10-14 14:20:22 may users? 2013-10-14 14:20:28 so your words are enough for me :) 2013-10-14 14:20:31 nah 10 2013-10-14 14:20:36 for now 2013-10-14 14:20:38 if you dont have too many concurrent writes, maybe sqlite might be enough 2013-10-14 14:20:44 freedomrun: Did you setup ownlcould recently? 2013-10-14 14:20:44 Reason why I am asking is that the doc http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/OwnCloud has a note about owncloud+sqlite that would be great to get rid of. 2013-10-14 14:20:48 maybe sqllite would be even better 2013-10-14 14:20:58 I had some trouble with sqlite in a early state 2013-10-14 14:21:00 :):) 2013-10-14 14:21:18 and clandmeter seems to have been able to use sqlite (he put some note about it) 2013-10-14 14:21:22 I`m doing this one on stable 2.6.5 2013-10-14 14:21:38 but wiki needs updating :) 2013-10-14 14:21:43 we wont switch from mysql to mariadb within any stable branch 2013-10-14 14:21:49 Maybe owncloud+sqlite will work since 2.6 then 2013-10-14 14:22:24 It would be nice to get rid of that note (and update the doc in other ways if needed) 2013-10-14 14:26:48 I can prepare soe decumentation fix in some txt file and upload it somewhare or send to someone so you can fix wiki info if you like 2013-10-14 14:26:55 *some 2013-10-14 14:30:16 Sure... or even better if you just update the wiki directly 2013-10-14 14:30:19 the problem with owncloud is that they are trying to make sql to do nosql stuff alot, it would be much better to make owncloud use mongodb or some nosql database 2013-10-14 14:30:33 We can review it if you like (when you updated the wiki page) 2013-10-14 14:30:35 I cannot update wiki directly 2013-10-14 14:30:39 Oh.. 2013-10-14 14:31:08 I mean I am not authorized 2013-10-14 14:31:12 to do that 2013-10-14 14:31:35 You will need to login to do modifications 2013-10-14 14:31:54 (means you will need to create a accound) 2013-10-14 14:32:02 *account 2013-10-14 14:32:24 Your support is highly appreciated! 2013-10-14 14:32:36 :) I can create account?! :) thnx 2013-10-14 14:33:11 I think you should be able to create a account by clicking the 'Create account' button :-D 2013-10-14 14:34:15 thnx I can see that ... was thinking that only alpine devs can do that 2013-10-14 15:22:11 hi 2013-10-14 15:22:17 hi :) 2013-10-14 15:27:26 will there bee an update for mozilla firefox in 2.6.5 as current version from the repositories shows 20.0.1 (that was released at 11 April 2013) manny security fixes came after that and v24 from edge works just fine so shouldn`t firefox from edge come to stable repo soon? just asking 2013-10-14 15:27:58 That's feedback we need to push it into stable ;) 2013-10-14 15:28:08 freedomrun: normally, major version bumps aren't done unless there's a request 2013-10-14 15:28:23 stable releases get minor version bumps noramlly 2013-10-14 15:31:09 thnx ... hmm but firefox update is important for the security or maybe it is better to hold ESR version in stable... where the package can be requested? 2013-10-14 15:31:41 jbilyk_, thnx for the info 2013-10-14 15:32:19 freedomrun: you can request the latest copy be pulled to stable by creating a bug report on bugs.alpinelinux.org 2013-10-14 15:32:54 jbilyk_, thnx 2013-10-14 15:33:23 np 2013-10-14 15:33:27 Who of you uses alpine as desktop? :) 2013-10-14 15:33:51 0/ 2013-10-14 15:33:54 me :) 2013-10-14 15:34:17 best linux desktop arround 2013-10-14 15:34:22 fast as light 2013-10-14 15:35:39 memory wise ... just turn on top or htop, open firefox and few tabs then close it .. not even BSD frees used memory that fast :D 2013-10-14 15:36:45 xfce desktop using 53MB .... even puppy linux can hide behind it and that one is far from secure 2013-10-14 15:36:54 alpine rules 2013-10-14 15:37:17 :) 2013-10-14 15:39:21 never used it as desktop, only on all my servers 2013-10-14 15:41:09 it serves good as a workstation too to get job done 2013-10-14 15:43:11 It is my go-to server distro 2013-10-14 15:43:25 Literally the only qualm I have right now is that unicode is weird 2013-10-14 15:43:28 it can surf the web print, view & edit docs and send receive mails, damn it even has a GIMP :) 2013-10-14 15:43:50 I do all my development work on Alpine these days 2013-10-14 15:43:59 me to 2013-10-14 15:55:10 shafire: Re 'Alpine as desktop': _o/ 2013-10-14 15:56:42 :) 2013-10-14 16:05:41 what does it mean: _o/? 2013-10-14 16:19:39 not shure google throw up pretty sick pictures when I copied that-tere :) 2013-10-14 16:36:43 are there arm builds of alpine available? 2013-10-14 16:37:14 for the rpi 2013-10-14 16:37:35 exactly what I need actually :-). 2013-10-14 16:38:17 http://dev.alpinelinux.org/~tteras/alpine-edge-131010-armhf.rpi.tar.gz 2013-10-14 16:38:51 NIN101: I have a SD card image if you want it 2013-10-14 16:39:18 What's the difference between both? 2013-10-14 16:39:27 Bah shit I made the image wrong 2013-10-14 16:39:47 My intention was to make an image you can install with DD and get a bootable system 2013-10-14 16:40:04 I forgot to wrap the alpine partition in an extended partition >< 2013-10-14 16:40:23 Oh well, only about like 15 minutes to fix :P 2013-10-14 16:40:35 NIN101: Any packages in particular that you want? 2013-10-14 16:43:00 Niichan: all I basically need is openssh and iptables. 2013-10-14 16:43:33 NIN101: Okay, gimme a little bit, gotta eat breakfast 2013-10-14 16:43:50 NIN101: After I eat breakfast I'll get an image baked for ya ^^ 2013-10-14 16:44:32 Niichan: nah thx, don't bother. I could help myself with the .tar.gz 2013-10-14 16:45:54 NIN101: I was gonna make you a full system install but okay 2013-10-14 16:46:21 Niichan: where you from? 2013-10-14 16:46:34 shafire: Seattle area 2013-10-14 16:46:56 LA? 2013-10-14 16:47:02 WA 2013-10-14 16:47:25 eh yes sorry :D 2013-10-14 16:47:41 Seattle, the space needle, grunge metal, starbucks 2013-10-14 16:47:59 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Seattle_4.jpg <-? 2013-10-14 16:48:24 ACTION uses as wallpaper 2013-10-14 16:50:26 I am from Stuttgart, do you know it? :D 2013-10-14 16:50:58 shafire: b2w, thx for the link. Do you know what kernel version this runs? 2013-10-14 16:52:27 linux-rpi-3.11.4-r0.apk 2013-10-14 16:52:29 pinkie cod (git:master) O > uname -av 2013-10-14 16:52:31 Linux pinkie 3.11.4 #2 Thu Oct 10 13:06:33 GMT 2013 armv6l Linux 2013-10-14 16:53:02 could you send me your PS1 please? 2013-10-14 16:54:30 shafire: I use the Z shell 2013-10-14 16:54:46 is this default there? 2013-10-14 16:54:50 No 2013-10-14 16:54:59 shafire: install oh-my-zsh and use this as your theme: https://github.com/Niichan/dotfiles/blob/master/.zsh/themes/niichan.zsh 2013-10-14 16:55:06 ah 2013-10-14 16:55:22 thanks 2013-10-14 16:55:40 it's colored too 2013-10-14 16:55:51 I see 2013-10-14 16:56:10 It shows a yellow X when your git tree is dirty :D 2013-10-14 16:56:29 and a green "O" when it is not 2013-10-14 16:56:47 :-) 2013-10-14 16:56:58 I'm working on refactoring it to just change the color of the ">" prompt arrow, but that is not as easy as it sounds :< 2013-10-14 16:57:07 heh 2013-10-14 16:57:15 need to push a clock into it too 2013-10-14 16:59:38 I have tmux for a clock :P 2013-10-14 17:00:39 I need the datetime of each command 2013-10-14 17:04:33 ACTION shrugs 2013-10-14 17:04:38 I don't 2013-10-15 04:07:51 morning 2013-10-15 04:07:58 i am having super bad issues with syslinux/extlinux 2013-10-15 04:08:12 anyway when trying to apk install via chroot i get unable to lock database no such file or directory 2013-10-15 04:10:08 heh 2013-10-15 04:10:15 that happened to me outside a chroot once 2013-10-15 04:10:27 what ended up happening was apk deleted all my packages 2013-10-15 04:10:28 :P 2013-10-15 04:11:03 apk info shows all there 2013-10-15 04:11:10 i basically unpacked a tarball 2013-10-15 04:11:20 maybe you have a solution for the mboot.c32 2013-10-15 04:11:28 i run into these on EVERY machine 2013-10-15 04:11:32 ACTION shrugs 2013-10-15 04:16:11 and whenever i preprare a usb pen drive with an alpine xen iso, it gives me the same error 2013-10-15 04:17:30 which is 2013-10-15 04:17:39 /boot/isolinux/mboot.c32: not a COM32R image 2013-10-15 04:18:49 yeah no clue 2013-10-15 04:18:51 never got that before 2013-10-15 04:19:16 i have it on *all* machines 2013-10-15 04:19:21 which makes this super annoying 2013-10-15 04:20:17 mm 2013-10-15 04:20:22 maybe it's a problem with the iso 2013-10-15 04:20:22 :O 2013-10-15 04:20:43 try downloading it again maybe? 2013-10-15 07:34:48 fbettag: better create an issue if you want it looked at. 2013-10-15 08:26:55 hi 2013-10-15 08:31:37 lo 2013-10-15 08:40:53 mid 2013-10-15 09:38:28 Cool, networking on lxc container with static IP is working now correctly 2013-10-15 09:39:00 ACTION will update the wiki later today :-) 2013-10-15 16:34:07 alpine stable 2.6.5, xfce & slim login manager on nouveau working perfect .. the problem occurs when starting firefox the xfce session ends and the slime login manager is displayed .. I`ve expected logs but can`t find nothing special 2013-10-15 16:34:40 this one is fresh install so system may be missing something ... hmm 2013-10-15 17:20:22 is there a bmc driver in alpine? 2013-10-15 17:20:32 for accessing ipmi? 2013-10-15 17:20:48 s/?// 2013-10-15 18:55:02 while1eq1, not yet. 2013-10-15 18:55:17 well - i have it built locally, but it's not properly packaged yet. 2013-10-15 18:55:26 may I have it please kind sir 2013-10-15 19:01:17 fabled 2013-10-15 19:01:53 i want to package it properly. i'll push it out tomorrow or the day after. 2013-10-15 19:03:05 and we have nothing built against it yet, so it would not be that useful likely. 2013-10-15 19:03:22 doing vlc and/or qt for it is still some way to go. 2013-10-15 19:03:29 though, i'll try to get vlc up and running 2013-10-15 19:03:51 vlc? 2013-10-15 19:03:56 to play video 2013-10-15 19:04:02 using rpi openmax il acceleration 2013-10-15 19:04:11 I see 2013-10-15 19:04:18 ok. i'm off to get some sleep. will continue tomorrow. 2013-10-16 04:33:35 Moin 2013-10-16 08:38:17 hi 2013-10-16 16:19:54 Quick question: Are there instructions for HDD installation on a disk >2tb? I keep running into disk and sfdisk errors with the alpine-setup script. 2013-10-16 17:44:46 ncopa, ping 2013-10-16 17:47:59 testing... I have an installation question. 2013-10-16 17:55:19 greetings greit 2013-10-16 18:04:56 oh hey! thanks! (I wandered off :) 2013-10-16 18:05:47 ok- so, i'm trying to install alpine into a desktop with win* uefi pre-installed. 2013-10-16 18:06:37 it's one of those glorious lenovo systems that check for the OS in the firmware, and unless it's windows it won't boot. 2013-10-16 18:07:11 so- I'm trying to run a server from RAM with alpine, but the install scripts fail because I have a 3tb drive. 2013-10-16 18:07:29 greit: largest I've used in alpine is 2tb 2013-10-16 18:07:42 fdisk and sfdisk won't work beyond 2tb 2013-10-16 18:08:01 is there a way to modify the installation? 2013-10-16 18:09:14 i'd be happy to manually partition and install, but I'm having a hard time finding the documentation that discusses the reasoning behind the full drive allocation to alpine. 2013-10-16 18:10:39 greit: http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Setting_up_disks_manually 2013-10-16 18:10:52 i'm planning to run xen, so I'll use the full disk space with domUs, but I don't want to run into forseeable obstacles that others can forsee, but I don't. 2013-10-16 18:11:51 yup- i've already read that. 2013-10-16 18:12:16 still does't address my 3tb disk size 2013-10-16 18:12:59 or the questions about the impact on the system (performance?) leading to the default installation which wipes and uses an entire disk for any install. 2013-10-16 18:18:15 greit: default is to use entire disk because it's the simplest option :) 2013-10-16 18:18:37 :-) 2013-10-16 18:21:26 ok- so I could run the system from an external usb, update apk, then with my functional (temp) system,chop up my drive into 500gb partitions for RAID, then chroot into one of the volumes so that my / partition isn't encumbered by the size of the usb stick. 2013-10-16 18:21:37 does that sound reasonable, or am I missing something?? 2013-10-16 18:22:04 and then from there install xen 2013-10-17 01:38:11 hello all! 2013-10-17 01:38:49 kaniini: I like Alpine Linux because its bots are the friendliest 2013-10-17 01:39:12 heh :) 2013-10-17 01:39:17 I used alpine for a Xen host for quite some time and I'm so happy with it I decided to build another box for a VPN server 2013-10-17 01:39:47 I installed the package Openswan and xl2tpd and my VPN is up and running 2013-10-17 01:39:49 I use it on my servers because it runs like a train 2013-10-17 01:40:03 yes small footprint, fast 2013-10-17 01:40:28 and minimal without being stupid 2013-10-17 01:40:40 I have several Alpine VMs running off a Alpine Xen host :) 2013-10-17 01:41:13 The host is running off the USB key so the drives are reserved for my VMs 2013-10-17 01:41:44 Anyway, this is my ditro of choice, can't believe it is not more popular than it is 2013-10-17 01:42:01 openswan is kind of dead now 2013-10-17 01:42:06 libreswan is the new openswan 2013-10-17 01:42:06 I'd use Alpine on my desktop but steam doesn't work on it 2013-10-17 01:42:13 but the alpine package is messed up :( 2013-10-17 01:42:37 maybe that's why I can't put ipsec in rc to start it at boot 2013-10-17 01:43:08 if I do: rc-update add ipsec, it doesn't show when I type rc-status 2013-10-17 01:43:29 I have to manually start it after a reboot (/etc/init.d/ipsec start) 2013-10-17 01:43:41 I would have more luck with libreswan ? 2013-10-17 01:43:42 I use openbsd for my ipsec needs... 2013-10-17 01:44:46 that happened to me before 2013-10-17 01:44:59 i think it was after i uninstalled it while it was running or something 2013-10-17 01:45:19 and nah, the libreswan package doesn't really work at all 2013-10-17 01:45:19 :( 2013-10-17 01:46:03 damn 2013-10-17 01:47:06 Is there a workaround this, more hackish way to invoke the /etc/init.d/ipsec script at bootup? 2013-10-17 01:48:48 no idea 2013-10-17 01:48:54 i never found a solution 2013-10-17 01:51:10 How do you guys are using alpine? 2013-10-17 01:52:41 xen vm 2013-10-17 01:53:57 host? 2013-10-17 01:54:03 nah 2013-10-17 01:54:04 guest 2013-10-17 01:54:04 or domu 2013-10-17 01:54:09 but i think alpine is the host too 2013-10-17 01:54:18 what do you run in it? 2013-10-17 01:54:41 I have a Xen host running 2 guests, my VPN endpoint and OpenMediaVault 2013-10-17 01:55:08 web server, torrents, vpn when libreswan package gets fixed, irc bouncer, uh 2013-10-17 01:55:12 probably some other stuff i forgot 2013-10-17 01:55:12 lol 2013-10-17 01:55:33 mikegleasonjr: I develop ircd forks on alpine 2013-10-17 01:56:04 cool 2013-10-17 01:56:23 I also made an initscript to start the ircd at boot :D 2013-10-17 01:56:49 yes I'm reading this at the moment: http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Writing_Init_Scripts 2013-10-17 01:56:55 https://github.com/Niichan/within-aports/tree/master/testing/ponychat-ircd 2013-10-17 01:57:01 There's an example right there 2013-10-17 02:11:37 allright guys I've written up a new script to start ipsec and I put it in /etc/init.d/ 2013-10-17 02:11:51 rc-update add my-ipsec 2013-10-17 02:12:05 rc-status now shows my-ipsec :) 2013-10-17 02:12:11 and start on boot ! 2013-10-17 02:12:30 nice 2013-10-17 02:14:29 @Mp5shooter: you have an alpine xen host, do you start your domus (guests) automatically when booting the host? 2013-10-17 02:14:50 oh it's not mine 2013-10-17 02:14:51 :P 2013-10-17 02:15:00 i bought the vm 2013-10-17 02:15:13 allright 2013-10-17 02:25:25 thank you everyone for solving my problem, going to sleep now.. 2013-10-17 02:31:30 ACTION zzz 2013-10-17 06:32:05 freedomrun: pong 2013-10-17 06:32:42 ncopa, :) 2013-10-17 06:33:21 is it edge/testing or? can`t find it or I just did but I wasn`t shure 2013-10-17 06:33:24 ? 2013-10-17 06:34:58 ? 2013-10-17 06:35:01 shorewall? 2013-10-17 06:37:13 ncopa, on mailing list u said there is need for testing packages that could go in 2.7 release, I have one box willing it use for testing purpose but I`m not shure which path to setup for now I was thinkink to setup http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/testing/x86_64/ but need a confirmation 2013-10-17 06:37:45 use http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/testing 2013-10-17 06:37:55 thnx :) 2013-10-17 06:38:04 actually 2013-10-17 06:38:18 use both edge/main and edge/testing 2013-10-17 06:38:30 i appreciate your help, thank 2013-10-17 06:38:38 there is no way i will have time to test everything 2013-10-17 06:39:05 np thank you and all other ppl for this great distro 2013-10-17 06:39:24 I`ll gladly contribute fragments of my free time to this 2013-10-17 11:00:55 midori+deps and firefox+deps in testing repo works perfect while on 2.6 there are very much unstable infact unusable 2013-10-17 11:29:58 i have problems with midori on x86 in edge 2013-10-17 11:30:12 or maybe should say, *had* 2013-10-17 11:30:18 i havent tested in a while 2013-10-17 11:30:45 but thats great because then it will be usable with v2.7 2013-10-17 11:31:31 here is working nice I`ve tested midori from alpine edge/testing and compared in xubuntu/ppa-latest those issues they share are midori specific 2013-10-17 11:38:47 I been trying other filesystems like reiserfs,ext4...etc on pendrive/SD/microSD 2013-10-17 11:39:01 any suggestion which works nice with such devices 2013-10-17 11:39:04 ? 2013-10-17 11:39:39 nilfs, f2fs ? 2013-10-17 12:07:04 ncopa, I think it is better to chose mariadb over mysql at the end 2013-10-17 12:07:17 look: http://www.dcdata.co.za/public/oracle-attacks-open-source/ 2013-10-17 12:10:22 there's no need to rush it, even though it's a good idea if it happens at some point in time 2013-10-17 12:11:15 i wondt rush mariadb 2013-10-17 12:11:24 will wait til post v2.7 2013-10-17 12:11:58 my gf recently switched to mariadb and the perf improvement was quite high. but i asked her why she didn't simply use percona and she didn't know herself 2013-10-17 12:12:02 it's weird 2013-10-17 12:12:08 so what's the proper procedure for requesting an extra kernel module in the regular alpne kernel? 2013-10-17 12:12:54 jzono1: bugs.a.o 2013-10-17 12:13:06 jzono1: which kernel module are you interested in? 2013-10-17 12:13:15 I`ve setup another machine on edge/testing repo path that is more used as owncloud (postgresql backend), jabber server and xfce workstation so we can get even more results for 2.7 release 2013-10-17 12:13:39 feature? 2013-10-17 12:13:44 in general, the upstream linux devs normally rejects inclusion in main kernel for good reasons 2013-10-17 12:13:55 jzono1: its a config option? 2013-10-17 12:14:04 ib_qib 2013-10-17 12:14:15 is it in mainline kernel? 2013-10-17 12:14:23 it's a config option, and everything else needed for infiniband support is already in the usual alpine kernels 2013-10-17 12:14:48 can you please create a bugs.a.o issue for it? 2013-10-17 12:14:52 so i dont forget it 2013-10-17 12:14:58 set target 2.7.0 2013-10-17 12:15:00 yeah. feature or bug? 2013-10-17 12:15:04 feature 2013-10-17 12:15:13 i have a few things i'd like to tweak in config too 2013-10-17 12:16:07 btw, is there a reason why CONFIG_INFINIBAND_ISERT is enabled as module in some of the kernels and not in others? 2013-10-17 12:16:36 not really 2013-10-17 12:17:00 i tried to keep the vserver kernel as small as possible 2013-10-17 12:17:20 and for a virtual guest you likely dont need infinband? 2013-10-17 12:17:29 never 2013-10-17 12:17:56 so it can be disabled in linux-virt if it not is already 2013-10-17 12:17:58 but I believe there was a difference between vanilla and grsec? 2013-10-17 12:18:05 oh 2013-10-17 12:18:11 i think vanilla is lagging behind too 2013-10-17 12:18:27 Linux genesect 3.9.8 #1-Alpine SMP Sun Jun 30 14:39:56 UTC 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux 2013-10-17 12:18:29 yes 2013-10-17 12:18:36 if you have time to sync up the config 2013-10-17 12:18:51 the timeconsuming part is the configuration of the kernel 2013-10-17 12:19:39 I can't remember the specifics, since it's been a while since I looked at it / since I somehow kludged together a kernel with the module I needed 2013-10-17 12:19:48 and there are just so many things i simply dont have any idea wht is nowdays 2013-10-17 12:20:00 but please feel free to ask for specific kernel tweaks 2013-10-17 12:20:06 i am happy for such feedback 2013-10-17 12:20:23 because its difficult for me to miagine what ppl might need or not 2013-10-17 12:21:00 so nowdays, with new kernels, i tend to disable things 2013-10-17 12:21:04 and wait til someone asks for it 2013-10-17 12:23:45 smart.. cuz of that resource usage is so neat :) 2013-10-17 12:24:23 when I get around to it I'm going to see if I can get the infiniband userspace tools going. 2013-10-17 12:25:47 anyways, I'll freshen up my aports tree and go see if I can look around at the infiniband stuff in the different kernels. most of it is already selected as modules 2013-10-17 12:41:26 darkfader: the only db my wife uses is imdb. 2013-10-17 13:10:49 lol 2013-10-17 13:10:52 same here... 2013-10-17 14:23:53 ncopa, found problem with midori message from log: kern.alert kernel: [61351.312481] grsec: Illegal instruction occurred at 3d52b015 in /usr/bin/midori[midori:4799] uid/euid:1002/1002 gid/egid:1002/1002, parent /bin/busybox[init:1] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0 2013-10-17 14:24:14 is this worth for bug report? 2013-10-17 14:25:59 does midory crash after that? 2013-10-17 14:26:04 yep 2013-10-17 14:26:15 x86? 2013-10-17 14:26:18 yes 2013-10-17 14:26:27 i have issues with midori on x86 too 2013-10-17 14:26:36 yes, file a bug report please 2013-10-17 14:26:42 ok thnx 2013-10-17 16:05:05 ncopa, filling another bug report targeting 2.7 is it important who I assign? 2013-10-18 13:26:38 new system up finally for work & testing and there it is same question again: SAMBA4 or NFS4? what do you people recommend? need it for rcync backup for unixes arround it no windows, but need a security too as this machine is exposed online also.. 2013-10-18 13:36:45 freedomrun: feels wrong to set up samba if no windows :) 2013-10-18 13:36:54 oh 2013-10-18 13:36:56 but 2013-10-18 13:37:09 it you have time and energy, i would love feedback on samba4 2013-10-18 13:37:12 its in edge/testing 2013-10-18 13:37:27 needs testing before i can move it to main 2013-10-18 13:37:30 ncopa, thnx :) 2013-10-18 13:37:36 thats something i wanted to do 2013-10-18 13:38:13 would have been nice with samba4 in v2.7 2013-10-18 13:38:52 I hope samba4 has no limitations in unix dir structure and caracter limitations like v3 had (it was bad for unix rsync backups) 2013-10-18 13:39:08 didn`t read whole documentation yet 2013-10-18 13:39:13 so I asked here 2013-10-18 13:43:56 i normally do rsync over ssh 2013-10-18 13:45:17 me too wehen outside of office 2013-10-18 13:47:59 hmm ... thnx for idea :) I`ll do that too for critical backups and let users test samba but that will need 2-3 working days 2013-10-18 13:48:11 in mission critical env 2013-10-18 14:08:45 probably better to test samba 4 in a lab env 2013-10-18 14:08:52 virtual or something 2013-10-18 15:16:49 no worries my backup policy is always x3 2013-10-18 16:08:50 question: installed fresh alpine 2.6.5 and configured usage of dhcp 2013-10-18 16:09:15 during boot and if running "/etc/init.d/networking restart" by hand 2013-10-18 16:09:20 it tells me the following: 2013-10-18 16:09:35 eth0 ... 2013-10-18 16:09:51 Error; this script should be called from udhcpc [ !! ] 2013-10-18 16:10:07 same if using wlan0 2013-10-18 16:10:12 any ideas? 2013-10-18 17:01:50 ok, got it :) 2013-10-18 17:02:03 used the wrong switch port #-/ 2013-10-18 17:28:25 and now figured out why wlan was not working 2013-10-18 17:28:52 set it up as described on http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Connecting_to_a_wireless_access_point 2013-10-18 17:29:10 but the problem is, that wpa_supplicant is executed too late during boot 2013-10-18 17:29:48 after adding "provide wlan" to /etc/init.d/wpa_supplicant 2013-10-18 17:30:17 and adding "need wlan" to /etc/init.d/networking 2013-10-18 17:30:25 wlan is working properly after reboot 2013-10-18 17:31:22 but i think it's not the default way, to modify two init scripts, isn't it? 2013-10-19 15:48:28 hi 2013-10-20 20:08:22 Good afternoon. 2013-10-20 20:08:27 Evening even. 2013-10-20 23:57:10 I guys, I'm using alpine for many things but it's the firt time I wnt to compile something: mame 2013-10-20 23:57:33 what should I install in order to get gcc and make 2013-10-21 00:06:38 alpine-sdk 2013-10-21 00:06:48 cool 2013-10-21 00:08:00 while compiling mame, "Qt's Meta Object Compiler (moc) wasn't found" and I can't find a package that have the "moc" command line 2013-10-21 00:18:19 mikegleasonjr: i am not alpine user yet - but you probably need qt libs and stuff - no idea whether there are packages for that 2013-10-21 00:19:07 yeah I'm checking that.. 2013-10-21 00:27:46 I'll just forget about it and swith distro for that particular need :( 2013-10-21 00:29:33 mikegleasonjr: well alpine is really for headless operation i guess 2013-10-21 00:29:55 yes, not criticizing :) loving it too much :) 2013-10-21 00:30:41 mikegleasonjr: heh i still haven't installed it, so it was just my impression 2013-10-21 00:30:47 mikegleasonjr: what do you use it for? 2013-10-21 00:31:19 I have an Alpine acting as a Xen Host (off a USB key( 2013-10-21 00:31:55 then I run several guests VMs.. 1 small alpine for a VPN, one for OpenMediaVault 2013-10-21 00:35:00 allright thanks, have to go eat :) 2013-10-21 04:51:57 hey http://bugs.alpinelinux.org/issues/576 says minidlna is available, but when I "apk add minidlna" and/or "apk search mini" I don't get it. Have tried apk update. Is my system too old? kernel 3.6.11-grsec using repository http://mirrors.gigenet.com/alpinelinux/v2.5/main 2013-10-21 06:36:15 hi arnotixe! 2013-10-21 06:36:23 it is in edge/testing 2013-10-21 06:36:36 edge is the "rolling" releases 2013-10-21 06:37:28 v2.5 is a stable branch and we dont push things to stable branches unless it has been tested in development branch first 2013-10-21 06:38:59 looks like there is new version available too 2013-10-21 09:14:24 re 2013-10-21 09:14:40 trying to install chromium from edge/testing 2013-10-21 09:14:46 but there is a missing dependency 2013-10-21 09:14:55 ERROR: unsatisfiable constraints: 2013-10-21 09:14:55 libcups (missing): 2013-10-21 09:14:55 required by: chromium-17.0.942.0-r0[libcups] 2013-10-21 09:26:48 kocka: i dont think its beeing supported anymore 2013-10-21 09:26:52 last commit is 2011 2013-10-21 09:27:10 :( 2013-10-21 09:27:40 is there a supported web browser? 2013-10-21 09:29:05 kocka: firefox and midori 2013-10-21 09:29:10 midori segfautls for me 2013-10-21 09:29:17 firefox works 2013-10-21 09:29:26 midori segfaults on x86 2013-10-21 09:29:40 but atm edge repo is broke. lots of packages got deleted 2013-10-21 09:29:43 would installing cups-libs work 2013-10-21 09:30:07 i think chromium is broke 2013-10-21 09:30:57 this is why we dont do chromium: http://ostatic.com/blog/making-projects-easier-to-package-why-chromium-isnt-in-fedora 2013-10-21 09:31:37 oh 2013-10-21 09:31:44 they are actually working on fixing it 2013-10-21 09:31:47 http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28287 2013-10-21 14:36:43 erm help! 2013-10-21 14:36:46 [string "acf"]:3: module 'acf.mvc' not found: 2013-10-21 14:37:04 on edge 2013-10-21 14:44:56 freedomrun: what were you doing at the time? 2013-10-21 14:45:34 testing samba but acf didn`t open web-gui before that too 2013-10-21 14:45:49 is acf-core installed? 2013-10-21 14:46:02 how did you set up acf? using setup-acf or manually? 2013-10-21 14:46:12 of course it was working 3 days before 2013-10-21 14:46:21 setup-acf 2013-10-21 14:46:51 hm 2013-10-21 14:47:02 I don't think any acf packages have changed in the last three days 2013-10-21 14:47:14 updated at friday to the latest edge everything was ok, updated today and it doesn`t work anymore 2013-10-21 14:47:31 mvc.lua should be located in /usr/share/acf/5.1/acf/ 2013-10-21 14:47:37 me2 I didn`t see anything related to it comming with updates 2013-10-21 14:47:47 are you messing with lua 5.2? 2013-10-21 14:47:51 thnx I`ll take a look 2013-10-21 14:47:56 nope 2013-10-21 14:48:04 oops 2013-10-21 14:48:16 that path should be /usr/share/lua/5.1/acf/ 2013-10-21 14:48:49 I can see it inside hmm 2013-10-21 14:49:00 strange 2013-10-21 14:49:45 ACTION will try to bring up an edge virtual machine real quick 2013-10-21 14:49:47 I think I see the problem 2013-10-21 14:51:09 ? 2013-10-21 14:51:11 /usr/share/acf/5.1/acf/ has mvc.lua inside but the server complains on v5.2 stuff look 2013-10-21 14:51:20 no file '/usr/local/share/lua/5.2/acf/mvc.lua' 2013-10-21 14:51:39 what version of haserl is installed? 2013-10-21 14:51:43 I don`t have 5.2 dir in /usr/share/acf 2013-10-21 14:51:50 letme check 2013-10-21 14:52:53 bah 2013-10-21 14:52:57 never did this before 2013-10-21 14:53:13 what is the right syntax to check installed version? 2013-10-21 14:53:20 for apk 2013-10-21 14:53:38 apk info haserl 2013-10-21 14:53:44 I did apk info haserl 2013-10-21 14:53:46 oh 2013-10-21 14:53:48 ok 2013-10-21 14:54:47 apk info haserl shows 2 versions how can I check wich one is really on system already? 2013-10-21 14:55:49 apk add haserl ... did nothing so I guess latest one is on 2013-10-21 14:55:50 ACTION thinks -r0 is in edge/main with 5.1 support and -r1 is in edge/testing with 5.2 support 2013-10-21 14:56:08 hm 2013-10-21 14:56:32 I have edge`s main & testing enabled is that a problem? 2013-10-21 14:59:27 but, ncopa would know better 2013-10-21 14:59:52 I hope he can be cloned :) 2013-10-21 14:59:55 yeah thats a problem 2013-10-21 15:00:08 :) 2013-10-21 15:00:35 freedomrun: apk add 'haserl where X is haserl version 2013-10-21 15:00:45 I know ... no worries I`ve just warned to see if this is a bug so I can put it on issues page 2013-10-21 15:00:51 ok 2013-10-21 15:01:34 will tell apk-tools to only install version < X-r0 2013-10-21 15:01:39 -r1 2013-10-21 15:02:33 thnx :) writing this command down 2013-10-21 15:02:35 (1/2) Downgrading haserl (0.9.32-r1 -> 0.9.32-r0) 2013-10-21 15:02:49 err 2013-10-21 15:03:07 now it works ;) 2013-10-21 15:03:43 ncopa, is the bug report necessary for this? 2013-10-21 15:05:28 ACTION is glad it works :) 2013-10-21 15:06:34 freedomrun: i think not 2013-10-21 15:06:40 thanks anyway 2013-10-21 15:06:43 tdtrask, thnx :) but need to be clear on this for v2.7 that is why I`m testing it 2013-10-21 15:06:48 ncopa, ok 2013-10-21 15:06:53 np 2013-10-21 15:08:31 freedomrun: I'm still working on trying to squeeze ACF support for Lua 5.2 in before the release data 2013-10-21 15:08:35 s/data/date 2013-10-21 15:08:50 expect updates to every ACF package between now and the end of the month :) 2013-10-21 15:09:16 great cuz samba4.1 have problems with it at the moment 2013-10-21 15:09:25 ACTION isn't sure he'll finish, but at least a bunch of intermediate steps will be done 2013-10-21 15:09:29 :( 2013-10-21 15:09:52 updates to match samba upgrade was not on my ACF todo list 2013-10-21 15:09:52 wait need to make shure on this from terminal 2013-10-21 15:10:00 :) 2013-10-21 15:10:40 if I make it work I`ll update the wiki info for this 2013-10-21 15:10:45 it is not unusual for ACF updates to be made for a while after the release of a new alpine version 2013-10-21 15:10:56 because I don't have the bandwidth to test everything :( 2013-10-21 15:11:15 I understand that anyway I think acf is great tool 2013-10-21 15:11:29 glad to hear it :) 2013-10-21 15:11:43 any and all help is appreciated 2013-10-21 15:12:09 I`ll do whatever I can .. alpine is real pearl 2013-10-21 15:13:02 ACTION hopes that Alpine Linux never embraces evil SystemD 2013-10-21 15:13:19 If it does, I'm just gonna fork it 2013-10-21 15:13:45 :) 2013-10-21 15:14:17 OpenRC is open and clear 2013-10-21 15:15:44 i never get this systemd hate 2013-10-21 15:17:38 I don't mind systemd. I do mind half-arsed adoptation of new init systems where a significant number of regular packages have incomplete support for it, like it was with arch when I last used it 2013-10-21 15:31:31 jzono1: arch refugee? 2013-10-21 15:31:50 jzono1: fortunately i used systemd right away it was in aur - so i missed all the great drama 2013-10-21 15:32:11 i always lean in favor of it though 2013-10-21 15:33:27 anyone had any luck with samba4.1? 2013-10-21 15:37:32 tdtrask, good news :) failing to start samba 4.1 is not related to ACF 2013-10-21 16:26:39 hi 2013-10-21 16:26:54 one question... 2013-10-21 16:28:32 has uclibc a fstab.h header? 2013-10-21 16:39:48 eto: migrant would be a better word than refugee. I could go back, but it turns out alpine does everything I did with arch... with less bother, and more security. 2013-10-21 17:00:09 any helpful critics are welcome: http://bugs.alpinelinux.org/issues/2280 2013-10-21 17:00:40 pardon: http://bugs.alpinelinux.org/issues/2292 2013-10-21 17:01:02 ACTION feels fuzzy of whole samba ... thing 2013-10-21 17:31:05 jzono1: fair enough i use arch for desktop only 2013-10-21 17:32:17 I'd probably be using more than one distro if I had more boxes and/or needed a desktop machine with linux 2013-10-21 17:32:25 right now, 8.1 is my desktop os of choice 2013-10-21 18:13:24 freedomrun: thanks for the update 2013-10-21 18:17:25 np 2013-10-21 18:17:55 I`ll have to start packaging to help u guys :) 2013-10-21 18:33:25 ACTION rarely packages anything besides ACF packages 2013-10-21 18:33:32 too busy with that :) 2013-10-23 07:55:16 darkfader: how is bcache? 2013-10-23 08:10:43 there was someone asking for infiniband kernel options too 2013-10-23 09:57:07 ncopa: may i ask you question regarding rootkit? 2013-10-23 09:57:45 eto: no 2013-10-23 09:57:51 oh sorry 2013-10-23 09:57:53 i misread 2013-10-23 09:58:02 sure just ask 2013-10-23 09:58:50 ncopa: well first stupid one - how do you detect one? 2013-10-23 09:59:18 ncopa: second: when i dl image and verify hash - i should be okay right? 2013-10-23 09:59:55 on first: i dont know. i suppose there are no easy answer on that 2013-10-23 10:00:06 on second, yes, verify hash should be ok 2013-10-23 10:01:10 ncopa: let's supposed one is compromised 2013-10-23 10:01:16 you can also verify integrity of all installed files with apk audit --system 2013-10-23 10:02:13 ncopa: best way to avoid getting re-rooted is to dl several images from several foreign computers and verify image hashes - those should match given alpine site was not compromised, tight? 2013-10-23 10:02:20 right 2013-10-23 10:02:43 eto: correct 2013-10-23 10:03:02 also, please note that md5 is not considered enough anymore 2013-10-23 10:03:11 so use sha256 or sha512 sum 2013-10-23 10:04:09 ncopa: ofc i know about md5 collisions i use sha256 or sha512 myself 2013-10-23 10:04:18 [11:59] ncopa: second: when i dl image and verify hash - i should be okay right? <- not really 2013-10-23 10:04:20 ncopa: thank you very much 2013-10-23 10:04:29 shafire: how come? 2013-10-23 10:04:32 It could be infiltrated 2013-10-23 10:04:41 shafire: ah yeah 2013-10-23 10:05:05 but alpine has pretty good record hasn't it? 2013-10-23 10:05:27 ncopa: do you verify hashes once in a while? 2013-10-23 10:05:27 "- those should match given alpine site was not compromised, tight?" 2013-10-23 10:05:47 i do 2013-10-23 10:06:02 ah, he wrote it already :) 2013-10-23 10:06:08 ncopa: thanks again 2013-10-23 10:06:29 we had some issues with a disk array that appeared to make blocks corrupt 2013-10-23 10:06:40 apk tools caught modified files 2013-10-23 10:06:47 ncopa: nice 2013-10-23 10:07:00 ncopa: i hope pacman on arch is able to something like that 2013-10-23 10:07:14 ncopa: so you are hashing all packaged files and checking those? 2013-10-23 10:07:18 apk tools does crypto checking against public key 2013-10-23 10:07:22 yes 2013-10-23 10:07:28 ncopa: very good to hear 2013-10-23 10:07:54 as a bi-product, you can verify installed files with apk audit --system 2013-10-23 12:03:54 one more thing is there raspi/beagle alpine port in the works? 2013-10-23 12:04:07 eto, raspi sort of works 2013-10-23 12:04:24 also wandboard - no beagle here 2013-10-23 12:04:33 it's "experimental" build against musl 2013-10-23 12:05:05 raspi boot image is at http://dev.alpinelinux.org/~tteras/alpine-edge-131010-armhf.rpi.tar.gz, and the package repository is at http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge-musl/main/ 2013-10-23 12:05:26 fabled: well i am more interested in beagle bone 2013-10-23 12:05:36 the packages should run on it 2013-10-23 12:05:40 fabled: maybe we should put that info on www.a.o? 2013-10-23 12:05:43 but no kernel / boot image 2013-10-23 12:05:47 fabled: but do you think it would be reasonable to invest into raspi in the meantime? 2013-10-23 12:05:58 they are quite different boards 2013-10-23 12:06:13 fabled: yeah but both are arm correct? 2013-10-23 12:06:16 yes 2013-10-23 12:06:25 but raspi is centered around the videocore gpu 2013-10-23 12:06:53 fabled: well using rpi for dev and then switch beagle wand whatever 2013-10-23 12:07:08 fabled: i am mostly interested in lua anyway 2013-10-23 12:07:11 i have boot image for wandboard 2013-10-23 12:07:22 not published though - but can upload if someone wants it 2013-10-23 12:07:51 fabled: my brother has rpi but i don't own anything yet 2013-10-23 12:07:53 rpi would be cheap way to try out alpine/arm 2013-10-23 12:08:12 it's built against musl c-library, so there's a bit of differences 2013-10-23 12:08:22 and it's not full aports yet - about 90% is built 2013-10-23 12:08:26 fabled: so it would make sense if i want to play with it right now 2013-10-23 12:08:31 yes 2013-10-23 12:09:02 fabled: thanks. so now i know what i want for christmas 2013-10-23 22:21:41 hi all. I keep running into the same trouble every now and then.. again and again... when doing "make PROFILE=whatever iso" in alpine-iso 2013-10-23 22:21:46 WARNING: Ignoring APKINDEX.317b559f.tar.gz: No such file or directory 2013-10-23 22:21:46 Makefile:86: *** multiple target patterns. Stop. 2013-10-23 22:23:11 Anyone have an idea what the trouble is with multiple target patterns? If I change the repository it might magically work. 2013-10-24 04:38:21 moin 2013-10-24 11:10:46 Chotaire: I think the problem is that it fails to find/fetch some packages 2013-10-24 11:10:58 and the error reporting is bad 2013-10-24 14:13:11 hi there 2013-10-24 14:13:49 hi 2013-10-24 14:27:46 is there any admins? 2013-10-24 14:29:38 aloha 2013-10-24 14:30:25 ncopa: as of the multiple target patterns... this time apk update was the cure. meh :) 2013-10-24 14:39:34 ChMuRi: what do you need? 2013-10-24 14:40:15 Niichan, sister:D i just wanted to ask how much is alpine linux mirror 2013-10-24 14:41:07 ChMuRi: Niichan actually means "big brother" 2013-10-24 14:42:30 Niichan, soorry for that i need to see some anime to rembeer:P 2013-10-24 14:43:04 ChMuRi: Neechan would be sister 2013-10-24 14:43:26 back to my question 2013-10-24 14:43:27 :) 2013-10-24 14:53:23 ChMuRi: you want to know the size of our linux mirrors? 2013-10-24 14:53:39 clandmeter, si seniore 2013-10-24 14:55:02 120G 2013-10-24 14:56:12 ChMuRi: 2.6 is around 20G 2013-10-24 14:56:38 clandmeter: how much is edge? 2013-10-24 14:56:48 16.4 2013-10-24 14:57:27 http://sprunge.us/gCUP 2013-10-24 14:57:29 clandmeter, 20 GB? 2013-10-24 14:57:33 for anybody thats interested 2013-10-24 14:58:09 ChMuRi: our current stable release is 2.6 2013-10-24 14:58:13 which is 20gb 2013-10-24 14:58:29 hmm its ok to create a new one i must calculate 2013-10-24 14:58:33 edge is 16GB which is our developement repo 2013-10-24 15:00:51 clandmeter, is ther a way that contribute to traslate ? 2013-10-24 15:02:24 ChMuRi: i dont understand your question. 2013-10-24 15:02:31 you want to do translations? 2013-10-24 15:02:56 clandmeter, yes to Polish langage and popularity in Poland this distro 2013-10-24 15:03:21 teach them english ;-) 2013-10-24 15:03:42 which parts are you interested to translate? 2013-10-24 15:16:22 clandmeter, maybe we could start form installer? 2013-10-24 15:22:13 ChMuRi: our installers are a bunch of shell scripts. There is probably no support for multilanguage 2013-10-24 15:22:30 clandmeter, hmm what next? 2013-10-24 15:22:42 I think, currently the only thing you can do is translate things on our wiki 2013-10-24 15:23:41 clandmeter, hmm ok 2013-10-24 15:27:25 clandmeter, what should i do to start form main site? 2013-10-24 15:28:43 register? :) 2013-10-24 15:29:01 then go to the page you are interested in 2013-10-24 15:29:07 i would stay, installation instructions 2013-10-24 15:29:30 you can edit this page and add a link to a new page called Polish. 2013-10-24 15:29:38 maybe you can check other distro's how they do it 2013-10-24 15:29:42 on there wiki 2013-10-24 15:31:10 clandmeter, ok:) Or maybe i cloud in mine while translate the main page? 2013-10-24 15:34:31 i just looked at archlinux 2013-10-24 15:34:57 they seem to have a menu for language slection 2013-10-24 15:35:21 im not really into wiki editing 2013-10-24 15:36:05 jbilyk_: do you know how to add language options to mediawiki? 2013-10-24 15:36:16 nope 2013-10-24 15:39:24 ChMuRi: maybe you can check how to do it? 2013-10-24 15:39:44 we can support you to implement it. 2013-10-24 15:42:07 jbilyk_ will support you ;-) 2013-10-24 16:52:17 clandmeter, ok should i create account? 2013-10-24 16:57:44 clandmeter, ok i have created account 2013-10-24 16:57:47 on main site 2013-10-24 17:02:06 ChMuRi, and on wiki too 2013-10-25 19:15:28 what dhcp client does alpine use by default? 2013-10-25 19:15:59 is there any easy ways to get ipv6 via 6rd? 2013-10-25 19:27:33 okay. so the default ip tool is new enough, and everything should be configurable manually 2013-10-27 17:35:33 anyone know how to make ASH do an "ls" after each "cd" ? (I can only make this work if the function in ~/.profile is not called "cd" as there is no "builtin" variable in ASH) 2013-10-27 21:28:33 i'm trying to build an iso with the scripts from the wiki, but i get https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7188075 2013-10-27 21:28:46 which is totally weird because i can fetch the first few (which are mentioned) with apk fetch 2013-10-28 01:37:48 where do I find 'apkbuild-pypi' ? 2013-10-28 01:39:12 (can only find a pkg for apkbuild-cpan) 2013-10-28 04:06:21 no 'git-email' package ? 2013-10-28 04:07:36 sorry - is in git-perl 2013-10-28 09:00:13 anyone know why I`m getting this?: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table 2013-10-28 09:00:35 trying to subscribe to mailing list 2013-10-29 14:12:27 Hello @ all 2013-10-29 14:13:02 hi 2013-10-29 14:14:30 two quesstions - the packages phpmyadmin has an dependenci to the package mysql - why? - i run the web-service and the database-service on diffrent maschines 2013-10-29 14:15:27 an the secound to the Website package browser - i get an drupal error page when iwant to get details to a package 2013-10-29 14:35:07 LanSpezi: which page? 2013-10-29 14:35:20 morning 2013-10-29 14:35:24 anyone got ideas on http://lists.alpinelinux.org/alpine-devel/3292.html ? 2013-10-29 14:35:26 LanSpezi: it should not depend on mysql 2013-10-29 14:35:36 its a bug 2013-10-29 14:36:44 ok - when the bug is fixed i can remove mysql witk apk del mysql on the web server 2013-10-29 14:37:02 LanSpezi: v2.6? 2013-10-29 14:37:52 fbettag: it sounds like it fails to unpack the packages to the tmpfs mount 2013-10-29 14:37:59 yes - i run 2.6.6 on my 6 xen domUs 2013-10-29 14:38:21 fbettag: my guess is that the signing key was not included in initramfs image 2013-10-29 14:38:26 the pub 2013-10-29 14:45:11 LanSpezi: I just pushed phpmyadmin-4.0.8-r1 to v2.6 repo 2013-10-29 14:50:12 i test it after sync of the mirrors 2013-10-29 14:51:17 ncopa: any idea how to fix it? 2013-10-29 14:51:42 where can i get the latest key from? i just have to put them in /etc/apk/keys right? 2013-10-29 15:01:45 fbettag: its your key 2013-10-29 15:02:08 when you build the iso it will sign the repo, the APKINDEX.tar.gz that ends up there 2013-10-29 15:02:51 copy ~/.abuild/*.pub to /etc/apk/keys and recreate the iso 2013-10-29 15:02:56 i think that should work 2013-10-29 15:07:32 hum 2013-10-29 15:07:40 2.6 builders didnt get the message 2013-10-29 15:09:03 ok its building now 2013-10-29 15:18:03 ncopa: thanks 2013-10-29 15:20:05 ncopa: i have upgrade to phpmyadmin 4.0.8-r1 - when i want to del mysql i get a error 2013-10-29 15:20:08 apk del mysql World updated, but the following packages are not removed due to: mysql: php-mysql phpmyadmin php-mysqli 2013-10-29 15:21:36 apk info -R phpmyadmin 2013-10-29 15:22:14 actually, do apk info -r mysql 2013-10-29 15:22:26 which will show which package that has mysql in depends 2013-10-29 15:23:00 mysql-5.5.34-r0 is required by: php-mysql-5.4.21-r0 php-mysqli-5.4.21-r0 2013-10-29 15:23:18 i just found that too 2013-10-29 15:23:27 this packages also has an require to mysql 2013-10-29 15:23:34 yup 2013-10-29 15:23:39 i just found it 2013-10-29 15:23:42 its wrong 2013-10-29 15:24:19 ncopa: no that wasn't it 2013-10-29 15:24:25 i put my key in 2013-10-29 15:24:25 # ls /etc/apk/keys/ 2013-10-29 15:24:26 alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org-4a6a0840.rsa.pub alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org-4d07755e.rsa.pub root-526c126a.rsa.pub 2013-10-29 15:24:34 and still get the same but with fewer packages 2013-10-29 15:24:35 can you fix it in next time? 2013-10-29 15:24:41 anything specific missing? 2013-10-29 15:24:54 fbettag: in the emergency console, check if the key is in /etc/apk/keys 2013-10-29 15:25:24 ncopa: huh? you mean emergency shell in initrd? 2013-10-29 15:25:30 yes 2013-10-29 15:25:54 or you can cpio the generated initramfs image and check if the key is actually included 2013-10-29 15:26:21 you can also try boot option 'verbose' and 'noquiet' 2013-10-29 15:26:27 to show more on screen 2013-10-29 15:26:47 ncopa: i looked at the staging directory where it gets packed 2013-10-29 15:26:48 initfs.grsec/etc/apk/keys# 2013-10-29 15:26:53 mine is in there 2013-10-29 15:27:00 hm 2013-10-29 15:27:07 ok then it is likely other problem 2013-10-29 15:27:16 that's bad 2013-10-29 15:27:24 how are the official isos being built? 2013-10-29 15:27:28 with the same scripts as well? 2013-10-29 15:27:34 try boot it with verbose noquiet 2013-10-29 15:27:43 yes with the exact same makefile 2013-10-29 15:28:03 hrmpf 2013-10-29 15:37:02 LanSpezi: i pushed fix. php-5.4.21-r1 is building now 2013-10-29 15:37:48 fthankls - i test it in next time 2013-10-29 15:38:06 -f -l - sorry for my typo 2013-10-29 15:45:24 ok - i have run an apk upgrade -> all php packages was upgraded and mysql was purged - Thank you for fixing 2013-10-29 15:49:10 thanks for reporting 2013-10-29 15:49:30 btw, i just pushed alpine 2.7.0_rc1 2013-10-29 15:51:00 thanks ncopa!!! 2013-10-29 15:56:47 ACTION now installing typo3 on the web-server 2013-10-29 16:01:16 bye bye @ all 2013-10-29 16:57:15 ncopa: where do i have to add packages if i want them to be in the booted os? 2013-10-29 16:57:30 i already tried adding them to modloop_extra (which gets mapped to INITFS_PKGS) 2013-10-29 16:57:37 but that doesnt install them 2013-10-29 16:57:39 :/ 2013-10-29 16:58:54 i also tried adding it to the apkvol 2013-10-29 20:14:48 fbettag: apkvol is correct, i didn't do it yet but read it a fww times 2013-10-29 20:15:02 and you need to have the correct signing key 2013-10-29 20:15:08 idk more 2013-10-29 20:36:51 darkfader: nah 2013-10-29 20:36:54 i got it working 2013-10-29 20:37:05 ok 2013-10-29 20:37:08 darkfader: there seems to be an issue on my alix cf-card while deploying 2013-10-29 20:37:09 even better 2013-10-29 20:37:11 hehe 2013-10-29 20:37:14 i made it nicely with apkovl 2013-10-30 10:54:10 whee!!! we are on the top 100 on distrowatch again! 2013-10-30 11:15:48 \o/ 2013-10-30 11:34:47 :-) 2013-10-30 11:57:52 is the iso out yet? 2013-10-30 12:07:04 the rc1 iso is out yes 2013-10-30 12:51:08 how hard would it be to create the iso for awesome windows manager to be bundle in? I think a good windows manager support would put you higher on distrowatch :D 2013-10-30 14:13:58 we have awesome window manager already i think 2013-10-30 14:14:45 i think we need: 1 a window manager, 2 a boot cd that boots to graphic (like traditional livecd), 3 graphical installer, 2013-10-30 14:37:56 not necessary a graphic installer, but one that boots the awesome wm straight off the bat 2013-10-30 16:24:40 xfce rules 2013-10-30 16:48:20 xfce good too 2013-10-30 16:48:39 awesome more simplier 2013-10-30 16:49:59 i wish there is qt on alpine 2013-10-30 17:20:05 yep QuiteRSS & Qpdfview rules too 2013-10-30 17:23:30 i hope lxde switches over to qt 2013-10-30 17:24:27 contibuting is faster than hope ;) 2013-10-31 04:48:58 Hi is there anyone around that uses nfs in fstab on boot? mount -a works just fine, but I can't get the nfs slices to automount on boot 2013-10-31 05:17:52 does /etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs exist ? 2013-10-31 12:04:12 Fuzai: rc-update add nfsmount 2013-10-31 12:05:09 i think nfsmount is in separate init.d script due to it needs to be started after network and it needs some daemons 2013-10-31 19:30:34 ncopa: no matter what I did last night i could get the mounts to mount, but i couldn't get any files to show, i ended up making it work with sshfs kinda, the files show but it's only locked to a user ( because of fuse ) do you know why mount would mount a nfs share but not show the data? 2013-10-31 20:14:43 using 777 for permissions, and even creating the same uid/gid for the users from the server at the client I couldn't get anything to show 2013-10-31 20:15:15 I finally just put mount -a behind networking I think and I was able to get the mounts to take, but same as before 2013-10-31 20:15:32 I would really like to not use sshfs for production stuff like this if I can help it