2013-07-01 07:06:02 quiestion, if I'd want to apply a patch to alpine and I am using the version from repository, how would I do that? 2013-07-01 07:07:57 are you talking about alpine the mail client or alpine the linux distribution? 2013-07-01 07:08:24 the mail client 2013-07-01 07:08:46 And now I am realising I am probably in the wrong channel for that ^^, 2013-07-01 07:08:54 this is for alpine the linux distribution, yes. 2013-07-01 07:09:01 although we /do/ package alpine the mail client. 2013-07-01 07:09:10 (what confusion :D) 2013-07-01 07:10:28 kaniini: haha, hmm, yeah a bit yes :P but as I understand, you have to be in the folder where the source code for the program is, but question is, where would that be when I take it from a repo 2013-07-01 07:13:45 depends on the repo :P 2013-07-01 07:15:08 debian repo, but I figure it would be easier to just download the tar-ball and compile it from source myself, to save me the hustle, also grab the latest version :P 2013-07-01 07:15:44 even though.. I guess alpine havent been changed in quite a while though :P 2013-07-01 07:16:15 good news: we actually know something about Debian distributions. 2013-07-01 07:16:33 if you use apt-get source alpine to get the source, it will extract it to alpine-version/ 2013-07-01 07:16:40 then there will be a debian/ inside that 2013-07-01 07:17:06 then there will probably be a bunch of *.dpatch files since debian likes to excessively patch everything 2013-07-01 07:17:26 anyway, look into debuild(1) 2013-07-01 07:17:40 and cowbuilder 2013-07-01 07:17:49 which is part of the cowdancer package on debian 2013-07-01 07:18:09 (in alpine, we just use cowdancer directly, because we're living in the 21st century now) 2013-07-01 07:18:15 kaniini: ohh, that's helpful, since I am running a debian distro (Y), and I'll be looking into the suggested packages : ) 2013-07-01 07:18:28 I was trying to get lpine to wirk with topal to be able to use GPG 2013-07-01 07:18:43 well, either way, i don't know anything about the mail client. 2013-07-01 07:18:51 but, good luck :P 2013-07-01 07:19:07 thanks a bunch : > 2013-07-01 07:21:01 Is there a java compiler for alpine? 2013-07-01 07:21:10 Niichan: gcc-java, openjdk6 2013-07-01 07:36:28 My intel card is stuck at 1024x768 2013-07-01 07:54:03 Ah 2013-07-01 07:54:13 Needed to install the intel drivers 2013-07-01 17:58:16 hi 2013-07-01 17:58:40 I have sometimes problem with openssh, if I use the delete button, sometimes the console is empty... :S 2013-07-01 17:58:47 Is it because I use /bin/ash? 2013-07-01 18:06:12 shafire: i haven't experienced that before 2013-07-01 18:09:31 mh, okay 2013-07-01 18:09:40 Do you use ash and openssh often? 2013-07-01 18:44:40 shafire: daily on several routers 2013-07-01 18:45:00 mh, okay 2013-07-01 19:19:00 thanks jbilyk_ 2013-07-03 09:39:25 hi 2013-07-03 09:40:44 jbilyk__: I found how to reproduce the error in my mac os x terminal 2013-07-03 09:41:42 Type "clear" in, press enter, press the up arrow and the terminal is going crazy :( 2013-07-03 10:53:43 shafire: wroks fine for me 2013-07-03 10:54:00 but i use putty on win7 2013-07-03 10:54:08 yeah putty is okay 2013-07-03 10:54:24 just the mac os x terminal is going crazy 2013-07-03 12:03:29 shafire: have you tried iterm? 2013-07-03 12:03:42 No, I don't know iterm 2013-07-03 12:04:03 Is it better? 2013-07-03 12:09:17 royger: thanks, I will try it out 2013-07-03 12:35:41 re 2013-07-03 12:36:01 checking for ZIP... configure: error: Package requirements (libzip) were not met: 2013-07-03 12:36:04 Package libzip was not found in the pkg-config search path. 2013-07-03 12:36:07 Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libzip.pc' 2013-07-03 12:36:09 to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable 2013-07-03 12:36:11 Package 'libzip', required by 'world', not found 2013-07-03 12:36:17 i've added it, but still get this error :( 2013-07-03 12:36:29 $ echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH 2013-07-03 12:36:30 /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig 2013-07-03 12:36:49 ah 2013-07-03 12:36:51 ok 2013-07-03 12:36:54 my bad 2013-07-03 14:26:34 hi 2013-07-03 14:27:28 i have a machine which uses an nfs share on a remote system 2013-07-03 14:27:37 "mount -a" works nice 2013-07-03 14:27:48 but after every reboot, the share is not mounted 2013-07-03 14:27:56 so i have to issue mount -a by hand 2013-07-03 14:28:05 i think that's not the idea... ;-) 2013-07-03 14:28:29 any ideas on how to let this work during boot up the system? 2013-07-03 14:28:37 here's the fstab entry: 2013-07-03 14:29:33 buildnfs01.nettworks.lan:/data /data/ci/results nfs defaults,_netdev 0 0 2013-07-03 14:41:06 i think it first and foremost should read 0 2 2013-07-03 14:41:22 but i'm not sure if that is causing your troubles 2013-07-03 14:41:39 nor that openrc knows about _netdev tehehe 2013-07-03 14:42:04 (i mean i'm not sure if it's working as intended) 2013-07-03 15:08:32 the last part is only the fsck option 2013-07-03 15:20:04 ah ok 2013-07-03 15:20:19 fuck linux. on unix it'd be both the fsck and the mount order 2013-07-03 15:20:28 well then that ofc is fine 2013-07-03 15:20:44 did you try a quick grep for _netdev in /etc? 2013-07-03 15:20:53 or /etc/*rc* 2013-07-03 16:23:45 no 2013-07-03 16:23:54 But good idea... 2013-07-03 16:25:19 Is there any reason I have to be root to read ipv6 addreses with ip addr or ifconfig? 2013-07-03 16:37:04 darkfaded: i got it :-) 2013-07-03 16:37:12 missing this nice little command: 2013-07-03 16:37:14 rc-update add nfsmount 2013-07-03 16:43:18 ahhh hahaahahaha 2013-07-03 16:43:20 oki 2013-07-03 18:44:37 18:25 < Heartmender> Is there any reason I have to be root to read ipv6 addreses with ip addr or ifconfig? 2013-07-03 18:44:42 you dont have to be 2013-07-03 18:45:06 /usr/bin/ifconfig works as a regular user 2013-07-03 18:45:37 i mean /sbin/ifconfig 2013-07-03 18:47:32 for me it is not reading ipv6 information without root 2013-07-03 22:32:36 my weekly question, any idea which package holds locate? 2013-07-03 22:32:39 i just can't find it 2013-07-03 22:32:48 anyone who knows, let me know :) 2013-07-04 02:20:05 kocka: http://pastebin.com/wyuHhqGv 2013-07-04 06:11:00 darkfaded: should be in find-utils 2013-07-04 06:11:20 findutils 2013-07-04 06:51:13 clandmeter: !!! ty :) 2013-07-04 08:10:09 Hi guys 2013-07-04 08:10:27 I managed an alpine mirror on 20GBit/s (Germany) 2013-07-04 08:10:28 http://mirror1.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/alpine/ 2013-07-04 08:14:47 shafire: cool! i think you need to email alpine-infra or infra ... i forgot :( 2013-07-04 08:20:13 mh, I can't find the email address 2013-07-04 08:27:50 clandmeter: kaniini: ncopa: Please call attention to the new mirror. 2013-07-04 08:28:43 someone needs to update http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/How_to_setup_a_Alpine_Linux_mirror 2013-07-04 08:29:09 shafire, the address to mail to is alpine-infra@lists.alpinelinux.org 2013-07-04 08:30:11 i think we need to start rethink how we manage mirrors 2013-07-04 08:30:23 i think i'd like a .yaml file in alpine-mirrors package 2013-07-04 08:30:42 with url, country code, sysadmin email addr 2013-07-04 08:30:45 or similar 2013-07-04 08:31:08 then we can generate a json file for public 2013-07-04 08:33:51 shafire: cool! that mirror is snappy 2013-07-04 08:34:38 How fast is it for you? 2013-07-04 08:35:04 i havent tested 2013-07-04 08:36:43 shafire: 2013-07-04 10:36:33 (9.04 MB/s) - 'alpine-mini-2.6.2-x86_64.iso' saved [71081984/71081984] 2013-07-04 08:37:22 Your hard disk was not fast enough :p 2013-07-04 08:37:42 lol 2013-07-04 08:38:09 i dont have more then 100mbits :) 2013-07-04 08:38:25 awwwww still getting faster 2013-07-04 08:38:42 i think we're messing up our benchmarks a little too 2013-07-04 08:38:50 but 5MB/s steady 2013-07-04 08:39:22 nl.a.o is still faster for me 2013-07-04 08:39:39 https://dpaste.de/mnBo6/ 2013-07-04 08:39:46 but i think thats a latency issue 2013-07-04 08:40:03 ncopa: i have a mirror for @home now too, it's just crazy how fast that makes apk 2013-07-04 08:40:10 :) 2013-07-04 08:40:13 yeah.. 2013-07-04 08:40:22 fabled did a pretty good job with apk 2013-07-04 08:40:34 put the mirror on tmpfs :p 2013-07-04 08:41:00 i seriously belive its the fastest package manager with support for crypto signing 2013-07-04 08:41:16 I like apk more than pacman and yum 2013-07-04 08:41:34 and apt-get/dpkg 2013-07-04 08:41:46 everything else now feels sluggish :) 2013-07-04 08:42:16 I don't like the names of dl-2.alpinelinux.org to dl-5.alpinelinux.org <-- can't see where the servers are from 2013-07-04 08:42:29 i agree 2013-07-04 08:42:31 apk was designed to do 1 io read and 1 io write 2013-07-04 08:42:54 i reads from network and writes to disk. once 2013-07-04 08:43:01 first guy who says it scales O(something) gets shot 2013-07-04 08:43:05 do checksumming and signature checking on the fly 2013-07-04 08:43:27 i didnt say that :) 2013-07-04 08:43:40 because it doesnt scale really 2013-07-04 08:43:53 64 cores won't make apk faster 2013-07-04 08:44:53 compared to rpi it probably would :) 2013-07-04 08:45:56 the yum stuff is quite single-thread-ish too and the only thing were it might scale is that the process hammering the database and the database being hammered by the process are on separate cores 2013-07-04 08:46:15 heh, just happy each time i can use alpine instead 2013-07-04 08:46:44 i like the apk db 2013-07-04 08:46:49 its fairly simple 2013-07-04 08:46:56 you can even edit it with a text editor 2013-07-04 08:47:17 but its still compact and relatively efficient 2013-07-04 08:55:20 ok 2013-07-04 08:55:35 if we create a yaml 'database' for mirrors 2013-07-04 08:55:41 what data do we need to store? 2013-07-04 08:55:44 url 2013-07-04 08:55:51 geolocation 2013-07-04 08:55:59 contact info 2013-07-04 08:56:06 anything more? 2013-07-04 08:56:26 http://lists.alpinelinux.org/alpine-infra/ <-- spammed lol 2013-07-04 08:56:53 geolocation, just the country name or more? 2013-07-04 08:57:54 The city 2013-07-04 09:00:22 good point, there's a TXT record for the location, right? 2013-07-04 09:00:36 (i mean, you can have one, it's not just there by magic) 2013-07-04 09:01:03 i can make a nagvis map that autoscales to show the mirrors and their location and status 2013-07-04 09:01:19 :-) 2013-07-04 09:01:35 like that one: http://mathias-kettner.de/check_mk_statements.html 2013-07-04 09:02:55 (sorry, didn't have time to just link the pic) 2013-07-04 09:03:09 lalala, need more caffeine 2013-07-04 09:03:56 shafire: from telehouse london docklands (4x10gbps) i only get 20mbps off that mirror 2013-07-04 09:04:46 NSA limited the bandwidth, so they can process data in real time :p 2013-07-04 09:05:07 lol 2013-07-04 09:05:19 PRISM!!!! 2013-07-04 09:05:38 i find it amusing that edward snowden applied to norway for asylum 2013-07-04 09:05:41 that's just hilarious 2013-07-04 09:05:46 they'll turn him over really quick 2013-07-04 09:05:49 we shuld ask them to upgrade their gear so we get faster bw throughput 2013-07-04 09:05:57 they probably would yes... 2013-07-04 09:06:15 i mean unless they threaten to give him the death penalty, then they won't 2013-07-04 09:06:33 i found it interesteing that they took down bolivias presidents plane 2013-07-04 09:06:46 yes 2013-07-04 09:07:26 http://www.flightradar24.com/2013-07-02/16:35/FAB1 2013-07-04 09:11:40 Could someone delete the spam messages from alpine-infra? 2013-07-04 09:16:28 kaniini: germany denied asylum for snowden 2013-07-04 09:16:48 shafire: no country in NATO is going to touch this with a 10 foot pole i guarantee you 2013-07-04 09:17:08 even russia don't want him 2013-07-04 09:17:17 "we offer asylum in a black CIA prison?" 2013-07-04 09:17:38 but putin was in intelligence, he is afraid too 2013-07-04 09:18:39 see, i don't think any country will grant him asylum because honestly 2013-07-04 09:18:49 every country is doing stuff like PRISM 2013-07-04 09:20:47 maybe vatican city, but he is not qualified for the confessional secret :-( 2013-07-04 09:21:14 he should stay at the terminal and live there, best way for him 2013-07-04 09:25:36 shafire: i think niue would be ok 2013-07-04 09:25:54 they're tied to NZ but NZ also "leaked" about echelon back in the days 2013-07-04 09:26:02 and it's in the middle of nowhere 2013-07-04 09:26:16 of course, he'd probably find himself back in the us within weeks 2013-07-04 09:26:32 and then probably noone finds him anymore 2013-07-04 09:27:19 Niue is in free association with New Zealand, and most of its diplomatic relations are conducted by New Zealand on Niue's behalf. All Niueans are New Zealand citizens, and Queen Elizabeth II is Niue's head of state in her capacity as Queen of New Zealand. 2013-07-04 09:27:20 yeah 2013-07-04 09:27:53 you can't trust the 5 eyes: US, CA, GB, AU, NZ 2013-07-04 09:28:46 (NZ, AU) -> GB -> US <- CA 2013-07-04 09:45:23 May I ask, where alpinelinux.org is hosted? 2013-07-04 09:49:23 shafire: its hosted in NLD on clandmeters box 2013-07-04 10:01:10 I am reading this: http://lists.alpinelinux.org/alpine-infra/0067.html 2013-07-04 10:01:19 * replace the current ext3 boot partition with a traditional vfat boot with run from tmpfs. 2013-07-04 10:01:24 Is there a tutorial how to do it? 2013-07-04 10:03:15 i think not 2013-07-04 10:03:23 i could give you some handholding 2013-07-04 10:03:26 but i gotta go 2013-07-04 10:03:29 long weekend for me 2013-07-04 10:03:34 see you monday 2013-07-04 10:04:17 okay see you, bye 2013-07-04 10:07:55 ncopa: have a nice weekend 2013-07-04 10:08:57 have fun 2013-07-04 10:15:00 o/ 2013-07-04 15:12:21 clandmeter: which hosting provider do you use? 2013-07-05 04:38:11 moin 2013-07-05 08:57:38 royger: hope you don't mind but i wasnt online at some like you for some time. do you know anything new about libvirt/xl? i'll be doing a talk at opennebulaconf in september and would really prefer to do it using xen than kvm 2013-07-05 09:07:05 darkfade1: AFAIK libvirt should work OK with libxl >= 4.2, have you tried libvirt release 1.1? Also make sure to be running latest Xen 4.2.2 2013-07-05 09:07:46 darkfade1: I know some of the opennebula guys, I've meet them at conferences/hackathon, they are from spain 2013-07-05 09:08:15 royger: ok i'll go check this weekend with some edge box 2013-07-05 09:08:23 (don't have one but that's quick enough) 2013-07-05 09:08:38 4.2.2 and 1.1 *writes down* 2013-07-05 09:09:13 darkfade1: basically use latest version for both, or you could also try with Xen 4.3 2013-07-05 09:47:28 xen-4.2.2-r10.apk one down. 2013-07-05 09:47:56 and build() { 2013-07-05 09:48:00 for libvirt has now 2013-07-05 09:48:01 --with-libxl \ 2013-07-05 09:48:23 lets hope the thing works out 2013-07-05 10:05:36 If I'm not mistaken ncopais the maintainer of libvirt, so he probably knows more about it 2013-07-05 10:09:28 darkfade1: no, he is not, sorry, anyway libvirt in edge is already 1.1.0, so you might have luck and everything might work out of the box. If you don't start xend libvirt should default to libxl 2013-07-05 10:51:43 royger: i'll give feedback, either i can test this night or on sunday 2013-07-05 10:51:56 this would be such a f****** great improvement :) 2013-07-05 10:57:04 ah. and i guess the build would be done already if i hadn't fired it off from a normal ssh session 2013-07-05 10:57:10 terminal latency :> 2013-07-05 10:58:11 wow, autoconf / install-sh missing in my build vm 2013-07-05 10:58:17 thats "interesting" 2013-07-05 11:07:57 bleh, libvirt even has builddeps on sqlite. such a monster. 2013-07-05 19:34:18 progress: still trying to make my xen test box boot and let me see a bios 2013-07-05 19:52:52 virsh capabilities tells me about xen(!) 2013-07-05 19:53:03 it still has some bugs in the init script i think 2013-07-05 19:53:12 but who cares 2013-07-05 19:53:20 well me, but not that much right now :) 2013-07-06 23:21:24 =/buffer 1 2013-07-15 09:51:23 hey guys 2013-07-15 09:51:50 I try to configure alpine with my postfix mail server on ubuntu 2013-07-15 09:52:16 but I cannt understand the .pinerc configuration... can anybody help me? 2013-07-15 11:01:06 hi christos_pap 2013-07-15 11:01:33 this is the Alpine Linux distribution support channel 2013-07-15 11:01:37 not the mail client 2013-07-15 11:43:40 ops! 2013-07-15 18:21:08 re 2013-07-16 14:14:49 re 2013-07-16 14:14:51 please help me 2013-07-16 14:14:53 ~/aports/erlang$ abuild checksum 2013-07-16 14:14:53 /usr/bin/abuild: line 1874: can't create /var/cache/distfiles/otp_src_R16B01.tar.gz.lock: Permission denied 2013-07-16 14:14:56 >>> erlang: Updating the md5sums in APKBUILD... 2013-07-16 14:14:59 md5sum: can't open 'otp_src_R16B01.tar.gz': No such file or directory 2013-07-16 14:15:09 $ sudo abuild checksum 2013-07-16 14:15:09 [sudo] password for kocka: 2013-07-16 14:15:09 >>> ERROR: : Do not run abuild as root 2013-07-16 14:15:19 so how can I build a package?:D 2013-07-16 14:30:34 you read http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Creating_an_Alpine_package#Setup_your_system_and_account ? 2013-07-16 14:31:07 seems you missed this part: 2013-07-16 14:31:08 basically just need to add yourself to abuild group as StarWarsFan points out 2013-07-16 14:31:13 sudo addgroup abuild 2013-07-16 14:31:13 sudo chgrp abuild /var/cache/distfiles 2013-07-16 14:31:13 sudo chmod g+w /var/cache/distfiles 2013-07-16 14:41:40 as i remember i've done that part 2013-07-16 14:41:50 done it again, and still the same 2013-07-16 14:43:53 something broken 2013-07-16 14:43:58 it used to worked 2013-07-16 14:47:15 ahh sry my bad 2013-07-16 18:27:19 hey guys 2013-07-16 18:27:27 what's the package that has certutil? 2013-07-16 18:48:34 anyone know? :/ 2013-07-16 20:25:09 can i tell find to print if -uid is *not* XZY? 2013-07-16 20:25:27 i'm on some webserver that is, well, not what a server should look like 2013-07-16 20:25:42 normally i don't tell with such a mess :) 2013-07-16 20:26:24 wrong channel anyway 2013-07-16 20:28:00 got them. 2013-07-16 20:28:03 those assholes. 2013-07-16 20:28:14 btw it's just find -uid -123 2013-07-16 20:28:34 no wonder they get hacked so well if all their files are owned by *apache* itself 2013-07-17 06:05:30 good morning 2013-07-17 07:44:20 re 2013-07-17 07:44:26 ncopa: around? 2013-07-17 07:46:12 hi 2013-07-17 08:16:16 hi 2013-07-17 08:16:36 i can't install erlang package from edge/testing 2013-07-17 08:25:17 ncopa-desktop:~$ sudo apk add erlang 2013-07-17 08:25:17 (1/1) Installing erlang (16.2-r0) 2013-07-17 08:25:17 Executing busybox-1.21.1-r0.trigger 2013-07-17 08:25:23 worked here 2013-07-17 09:05:45 strange 2013-07-17 09:05:57 especially because there are no dependencies 2013-07-17 10:19:49 :( 2013-07-17 11:06:56 will xen be updated to 4.3 in the repo http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/main ? 2013-07-17 11:07:23 I want to use the USB passthough, which is supported in 4.3 2013-07-17 14:42:28 Is alpine linux rolling release? If not, how easy are upgrades between versions? 2013-07-17 14:46:39 Also, does the installer enable a serial console? My system doesn't have VGA. 2013-07-17 14:49:18 piousm1n1on: yes rolling 2013-07-17 14:49:27 piousm1n1on: serial check wiki 2013-07-17 14:49:55 clandmeter: I was just checking the wiki, but so far I've only found options to enable serial "after" installation. 2013-07-17 14:50:25 you can create an usb boot drive 2013-07-17 14:50:40 and edit bootloader 2013-07-17 14:50:51 The device doesn't have USB. 2013-07-17 14:51:10 it does have a cdrom? 2013-07-17 14:51:19 No, it's embedded. 2013-07-17 14:51:34 how do you want to boot? 2013-07-17 14:51:58 It boots from a SCSI hard disk or over the network. 2013-07-17 14:52:52 you can prepare the scsi hd outside of your system? 2013-07-17 14:53:23 I don't have any other scsi controller. I can however use memdisk from syslinux to load an iso. 2013-07-17 14:53:55 iso, hard disk, or floppy image. 2013-07-17 14:55:32 support for network booting has been recently added. but i didnt try it. 2013-07-17 14:56:48 ...with serial console? 2013-07-17 14:57:34 i guess so 2013-07-17 15:02:56 how do you want to load syslinux? 2013-07-17 15:07:02 I have syslinux booting from the scsi drive. 2013-07-17 15:07:15 The system currently has gentoo on it. 2013-07-18 03:06:01 Do I need to edit /etc/inittab to start a console on boot or is the kernel param "console=ttyS0,38400n1" sufficient as the wiki implies? 2013-07-18 03:06:20 s/38400/9600 2013-07-18 14:28:18 hoi 2013-07-18 14:29:04 is there an asterisk package supporting srtp in asterisk? 2013-07-18 14:39:14 kocka: what is needed for srtp support in asteirk? 2013-07-18 14:41:57 libsrtp 2013-07-18 14:42:13 ah we have it in testing 2013-07-18 14:42:58 and there could be an asterisk package with built in srtp 2013-07-18 14:43:03 yup 2013-07-18 14:43:06 i'm on it 2013-07-18 14:43:18 i just *hate* gconf2 2013-07-18 14:43:18 but i found that freeswitch has zrtp support out of the box 2013-07-18 14:43:53 cool 2013-07-18 14:46:48 i thinks its simple to add it 2013-07-18 14:46:56 just move the libsrtp to main from testing 2013-07-18 14:47:05 and add it to makedepends of asterisk 2013-07-18 14:47:27 and possibly split out a subpackage 2013-07-18 14:50:35 \o/ 2013-07-18 14:50:58 it works here 2013-07-18 14:52:07 i should probably split out dahdi as subpackage 2013-07-18 14:59:02 asterisk-srtp-11.5-r1 2013-07-18 17:37:01 If I wanna develop objective-C in alpine, I gotta roll my own compiler, eh? 2013-07-18 21:20:46 Is this channel logged? I can't remember the question I asked. lol 2013-07-19 03:10:07 Is "console=ttyS0,9600n1" on the kernel line sufficient for console on boot as the wiki implies or do I need to edit /etc/inittab? My device has no VGA or keyboard options so I only get one shot with this. 2013-07-19 03:10:21 I really don't want to brick it. 2013-07-19 03:39:06 I'm having a problem with a dual-stack system. Every time I reboot, it doesn't take the ipv6 IP that's configured, yet if I just "rc-service networking restart" it's there. 2013-07-19 03:58:45 Linux 3.9.8-1-grsec #2-Alpine SMP Tue Jul 2 13:11:24 UTC 2013 i686 Linux 2013-07-19 05:14:49 piousminion: test in a vm! console= is gonna help but probably doens't give you a login console after the boot 2013-07-19 05:15:23 darkfaded: I don't know why a VM didn't occur to me. heh 2013-07-19 05:15:26 thanks 2013-07-19 05:16:04 piousminion: i think by now all support running serial into i.e. a pipe 2013-07-19 05:16:22 look for example at the better junos / olive howots :) 2013-07-19 05:16:39 I have no idea what you're talking about now. 2013-07-19 05:16:57 ok then just proceed 2013-07-19 06:46:19 I'm having a problem with a dual-stack system. Every time I reboot, it doesn't take the ipv6 IP that's configured, yet if I just "rc-service networking restart" it's there. Followed instrutions from the wiki and still having this problem. /etc/network/interfaces is basically a clone of a working system with different IPs. 2013-07-19 06:46:33 Suggestions anyone? 2013-07-19 06:47:46 ls /etc/network/ 2013-07-19 06:47:50 aerrrr 2013-07-19 06:47:54 sorry i tried to do that 2013-07-19 06:47:58 but was in irssi still 2013-07-19 06:48:30 i only have a tunnel on the system i could look at 2013-07-19 06:48:33 no good 2013-07-19 06:48:45 but it does come up on boot i think 2013-07-19 07:47:51 Hello... 2013-07-19 07:48:14 When I try to install package 'nuttc', apk says: ERROR: 1 unsatisfiable dependencies: 2013-07-19 07:48:14 world: nuttcp 2013-07-19 07:48:56 But when I check dependencies with 'apk info -R nuttcp', it only depends on 'libc0.9.32' - which is installed... 2013-07-19 07:49:03 What am I missing? 2013-07-19 07:49:15 Sorry, package is 'nuttcp'... 2013-07-19 07:49:35 danci1973, maybe it's in testing? try "apk add nuttcp@testing" 2013-07-19 07:49:44 or @edge 2013-07-19 07:49:57 the apk-tools@edge give better error report on those 2013-07-19 07:50:08 Thank you, @testing did it. :) 2013-07-19 08:02:11 Hmm... Apart from using 'iftop' interactively, what tool would one use on Alpine linux router to 'catch' what / who is generating bursts of network traffic? I was thinking 'ntop', maybe? 2013-07-19 08:35:05 piousminion: i think it depends on your setup 2013-07-19 08:35:27 ncopa: clarify 2013-07-19 08:35:30 if you run from tmpfs it should be enough. i think the initramfs init will update the /etc/initttab 2013-07-19 08:35:39 iirc... 2013-07-19 08:35:57 if you are unsure, you can always add the needed row to /etc/inittab 2013-07-19 08:37:49 danci1973: iptraf 2013-07-19 08:38:11 well iptraf is like iftop, interactive 2013-07-19 08:40:04 Yeah... Which is a bit of a problem, as I cannot sit here stearing at the screen all day. :D 2013-07-19 08:40:43 understand 2013-07-19 08:40:52 i dont have any better suggestion 2013-07-19 08:40:56 i dont know what ppl use 2013-07-19 08:41:18 maybe fprobe 2013-07-19 08:42:30 http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Setting_Up_Fprobe_And_Ntop 2013-07-19 08:45:53 Thanks, I'll look into it. 2013-07-19 11:47:14 ACTION is looking to host a few domains (website and email) on an alpine vm or physical host 2013-07-19 11:47:23 any suggestions on alpine hosting sites? 2013-07-19 11:48:18 they should be low volume, fairly simple sites, so not much in the way of resources needed 2013-07-19 11:48:20 just uptime 2013-07-19 11:49:52 I've seen GigaTux 2013-07-19 11:50:28 and http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Install_Alpine_on_Amazon_EC2 2013-07-19 11:50:34 any other options / suggestions? 2013-07-19 11:52:34 tdtrask: fbettag also does webhosting and runs alpine for the vm hosts, so a alpine vm might be easy to get 2013-07-19 11:54:20 ok, checking ... 2013-07-19 11:56:03 you have a link to hosting site? 2013-07-19 11:59:46 all I find is fbettag's twitter feed :/ 2013-07-19 12:18:21 hehe 2013-07-19 12:18:24 yes sec 2013-07-19 12:18:32 well 2013-07-19 12:18:42 he's forwarding to a new product's site 2013-07-19 12:18:48 so anyway, it's www.bett.ag 2013-07-19 12:19:02 but i'd suggest you query him in 4-5 hrs 2013-07-19 12:23:18 thanks 2013-07-19 12:37:18 we shoudl add that to FAQ 2013-07-19 12:38:14 ncopa: hopefully we could get more of a list :) 2013-07-19 12:38:54 :D 2013-07-19 15:47:04 tdtrask: i've had some good success on EC2 2013-07-19 15:47:25 tdtrask: and since alpine has low disk IO, a micro or small instance is really cheap to run 2013-07-19 16:01:38 jbilyk_: thanks 2013-07-19 20:00:27 tdtrask | any other options / suggestions? 2013-07-19 20:00:41 tdtrask: http://www.tortois.es/products/tortoisecloud 2013-07-19 20:00:57 tdtrask: it's entirely built ontop of alpine and supports alpine as a distribution 2013-07-19 20:08:05 kaniini: checking it out 2013-07-19 20:08:08 thanks 2013-07-19 20:16:41 tdtrask: let me know if you want a promo code 2013-07-19 20:16:43 lol 2013-07-19 20:17:24 research phase right now 2013-07-19 20:17:29 but I'll remember that :) 2013-07-19 20:17:38 if you want to see the management side, here's a screencast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg42yXphzCM 2013-07-19 20:26:45 Are the options for "alpine_dev=" only cdrom and usbdisk, or are there any others? 2013-07-19 20:31:34 you can use an hdd as alpine_dev 2013-07-20 00:08:14 Alright, so I've modified the alpine mini iso to add serial console support and I can boot it via MEMDISK(because I have no cdrom), but the initramfs can't find the squashfs. 2013-07-20 00:08:46 Anyone know enough about the initramfs to tell me what I should mount where for boot to continue? 2013-07-20 00:11:11 ncopa? 2013-07-20 21:53:22 hi all, or any, trying to compile node.js under Alpine Linux and it segfaults part way through the V8 engine compilation... any ideas on what I can do from here? I only have 512mb of memory (albeit 11GB of swap) in this VM - do I need to add more? 2013-07-20 21:57:33 nope. increased it to 2GB and it still died. 2013-07-20 22:23:28 Ok, just found this in the dmesg log: 2013-07-20 22:23:29 [ 1653.993329] grsec: From 192.168.80.1: denied resource overstep by requesting 4096 for RLIMIT_CORE against limit 0 for /root/node-v0.10.13/out/Release/mksnapshot[mksnapshot:1526] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0, parent /bin/busybox[sh:1524] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0 2013-07-20 23:02:12 frank1985: I was just about to report that 2013-07-21 00:21:57 just started a fresh compile under a normal user account, see if that makes a difference 2013-07-21 04:16:12 .D 2013-07-21 09:33:04 Alright, so I've modified the alpine mini iso to add serial console support and I can boot it via MEMDISK(because I have no cdrom), but the initramfs can't find the squashfs. 2013-07-21 09:33:06 Anyone know enough about the initramfs to tell me what I should mount where for boot to continue? 2013-07-21 19:40:39 Where do you set the locale to UTF-8? 2013-07-21 19:44:57 Huh, weird 2013-07-21 19:45:26 mosh is complaining that the server side doesn't take UTF-8 2013-07-21 19:48:19 https://gist.github.com/Niichan/bf3c11762641fb733668 2013-07-21 20:55:55 Niichan: I think I read on the wiki that uClibc doesn't use locales. 2013-07-21 20:56:28 piousm1n1on: Yeah, I was hoping there would be a way to bypass that 2013-07-22 06:11:20 piousminion: http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/mkinitfs/tree/initramfs-init.in 2013-07-22 06:12:28 piousm1n1on: it will try mount alpine_dev depending on the fstab in initramfs 2013-07-22 06:13:04 if alpine_dev is not in fstab 2013-07-22 06:13:21 it will mount it on /media/$alpine_dev 2013-07-22 06:13:28 eg /media/sda1 2013-07-22 06:13:40 http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/mkinitfs/tree/initramfs-init.in#n472 2013-07-22 06:16:04 ncopa: I tried to cat the init file from within the initramfs, but both less and more failed to function properly. I'll give that a look. :) 2013-07-22 06:22:21 Niichan: we use libiconv for chartset conversion 2013-07-22 06:22:32 i think gettext package might have 'locale' 2013-07-22 06:22:41 i dont know if it works though 2013-07-22 15:31:14 xfce-dev 2013-07-22 15:31:16 hi 2013-07-23 06:57:17 Congratulations! You've brought the "Ubuntu Edge" team one step further to making their campaign happen! 2013-07-23 06:57:43 they didnt have an Alpine Linux version.... 2013-07-23 06:58:34 Yet 2013-07-23 06:59:37 i just have to ask fabled to add support for it. 2013-07-23 06:59:51 or maybe its an intel soc 2013-07-26 05:36:10 Can anyone help with OpenNHRP? 2013-07-26 05:36:10 Hello! 2013-07-26 05:37:51 From time to time spoke can not connect to the hub. "Failed to register to 10.10.1.1: timeout (65535)" 2013-07-26 05:50:38 Jakal, could be caused by a number of things 2013-07-26 05:51:46 Please describe the possible causes. 2013-07-26 05:52:18 Jakal, how about you give more logs? and explanation of the setup 2013-07-26 05:52:31 one could write a book on possible causes ;) 2013-07-26 05:53:30 Roger that. :) 2013-07-26 05:53:30 I'll try to describe the structure. 2013-07-26 05:56:51 The hub is connected to two different ISPs. Each spoke is also connected to two different ISPs. 2013-07-26 05:56:51 First NHRP network has a range of 10.10.1.0/24. The second NHRP network has a range of 10.10.2.0/24. Inside I use OSPF. Racoon configuration is as indicated in the documentation. 2013-07-26 05:57:53 Hub and spokes use the operating system Debian Wheezy 2013-07-26 05:59:32 To provide the logs, I think I need to add the flag "-v" to all spokes. 2013-07-26 06:00:53 is racoon able to establish ipsec? 2013-07-26 06:01:12 is both hub and spokes opennhrp, or is hub cisco ? 2013-07-26 06:02:31 OpenNHRP compiled from the git repository. Hub and spokes uses opennhrp. Racoon able to establish ipsec and successfully doing it. 2013-07-26 06:04:01 does the hub see registration requests? 2013-07-26 06:10:22 I checked the logs hub. It seems really hub does not get a registration request from the spoke. 2013-07-26 06:12:12 so sounds like firewall eating ESP / UDP 4500 2013-07-26 06:12:39 or ipsec issue 2013-07-26 06:12:56 check with tcpdump on leaf, that it actually sends out the packets via right interface. and that they are encrypted. 2013-07-26 06:15:23 Thank you. I will try next time to do so. 2013-07-26 06:16:57 Just check the logs on the hub and spoke about the recent incident. 2013-07-26 06:16:57 On spoke 2013-07-26 06:16:57 Jul 26 10:38:20 main opennhrp[23549]: Failed to register to 10.10.1.1: timeout (65535) 2013-07-26 06:16:57 On hub 2013-07-26 06:16:57 Jul 26 08:38:15 MainRouter opennhrp[24189]: Received Registration Request from proto src 10.10.1.10 to 10.10.1.1 2013-07-26 06:16:57 Jul 26 08:38:15 MainRouter opennhrp[24189]: [10.10.1.10] Peer inserted to multicast list 2013-07-26 06:17:39 2 hours difference between a hub and spoke. 2013-07-26 06:19:14 The hub receives the registration message, right? Or am I confusing you? 2013-07-26 06:20:51 Spoke 2013-07-26 06:20:51 Jul 26 10:39:27 main opennhrp[23549]: Sending Registration Request to 10.10.1.1 (my mtu=0) 2013-07-26 06:20:51 Jul 26 10:39:57 main opennhrp[23549]: Failed to register to 10.10.1.1: timeout (65535) 2013-07-26 06:20:51 Hub 2013-07-26 06:20:51 Jul 26 08:39:27 MainRouter opennhrp[24189]: Received Registration Request from proto src 10.10.1.10 to 10.10.1.1 2013-07-26 06:20:52 Jul 26 08:39:27 MainRouter opennhrp[24189]: [10.10.1.10] Peer inserted to multicast list 2013-07-26 06:20:52 Jul 26 08:39:27 MainRouter opennhrp[24189]: Sending Registration Reply from proto src 10.10.1.1 to 10.10.1.10 (1 bindings accepted, 0 rejected) 2013-07-26 06:21:25 ok. then the reply gets lost for the client. do you see any ESP coming back from hub to spoke? 2013-07-26 06:24:00 The fact is that now there is no problem and everything works fine. And sometimes, about once every 4-5 days, there is a failure and I see a timeout error. 2013-07-26 06:24:40 Do you think that the problem is in the firewall? 2013-07-26 06:25:22 could be many things 2013-07-26 06:25:30 firewall, or ipsec SAs expiring differently 2013-07-26 06:25:59 was there network packet loss during that time? 2013-07-26 06:26:44 if yes, the patch http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/aports/tree/main/ipsec-tools/90-dead-on-initial-contact.patch for ipsec-tools might help 2013-07-26 06:29:50 As far as I know, today no problem with packet loss. Thanks for the patch. Before building the network NHRP I just compiled ipsec-tools and racoon with all the patches from the distribution AlpineLinux. 2013-07-26 06:34:57 I agree that a timeout message is not an error. And may occur due to packet loss, due to provider problems. 2013-07-26 06:34:58 Just today I was watching a timeout message through both ISPs. I restarted opennhrp service and the message is lost, spoke successfully logged on to the hub through both ISPs. 2013-07-26 09:42:51 I'm beginning to think it's impossible to install alpine-linux on a device without VGA or removable media. 2013-07-26 09:55:48 piousminion: what boot media do you use? 2013-07-26 09:56:04 ncopa: scsi hard disk or pxe. 2013-07-26 09:56:24 pxe is work in progress kind of 2013-07-26 09:56:30 havent had time to look at it 2013-07-26 09:57:27 I've loaded the iso with memdisk, but it doesn't support console on serial so running setup is impossible. 2013-07-26 09:57:53 Not that it finds the iso after the initramfs. 2013-07-26 10:00:57 piousminion, console on serial works just fine 2013-07-26 10:01:16 i run alpine on many ALIX boxes that have only serial + network 2013-07-26 10:01:53 fabled: once installed, yes, but the installer doesn't support it. 2013-07-26 10:02:23 I take that back. I don't actually know that as I don't think I've gotten past the initramfs. 2013-07-26 10:02:56 i just use USB sticks; it needs few additions to syslinux.cfg 2013-07-26 10:03:10 http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Enable_Serial_Console_on_Boot 2013-07-26 10:03:38 fabled: my device doesn't support usb. 2013-07-26 10:03:53 you'll just need the bootloader to pass the console=... to kernel 2013-07-26 10:03:56 and it should work 2013-07-26 10:03:56 options: scsi hard disc, pxe, serial console. 2013-07-26 10:04:27 kernel parameter 'console=ttyS0,9600' should make things work 2013-07-26 10:04:48 alpine initramfs picks it up and will then enable getty on ttyS0 2013-07-26 10:05:13 Alright, but I still can't get past initramfs as I have no cdrom nor usb. 2013-07-26 10:06:32 you should be able to use the scsi disk 2013-07-26 10:06:44 but installation from network via pxe is not supported atm. 2013-07-26 10:07:15 you'd need to pass alpine_dev=: 2013-07-26 10:07:29 though, not sure if the default initramfs has ext2 support 2013-07-26 10:07:44 So just extract contents of iso to filesystem and adjust bootloader? 2013-07-26 10:07:58 ext"2" ? 2013-07-26 10:07:59 yes, that should work 2013-07-26 10:08:10 vfat works definitely 2013-07-26 10:08:12 What does FSes it support? 2013-07-26 10:08:28 lol, grammar fail 2013-07-26 10:09:19 ok, ext2 and ext3 are there too 2013-07-26 10:09:44 apparently ext4 too in the most recent 2013-07-26 10:10:23 cool 2013-07-26 10:18:46 I might be all set then. thanks for all the help 2013-07-26 15:53:45 fabled: what is in "alpine_dev=:" ? /dev/sda? 2013-07-26 15:54:38 or anyone else that may know for that matter. 2013-07-26 15:56:06 jusrt sda 2013-07-26 15:56:13 i.e. alpine_dev=xvdd:iso9660 modules=loop,squashfs,sd-mod,usb-storage modloop=/boot/grsec.modloop.squashfs console=hvc0 2013-07-26 15:59:49 thanks 2013-07-26 16:34:53 Can anyone tell me what's going on here? http://pastebin.com/67wmu58n 2013-07-26 16:35:10 Why is it looking for a floppy? 2013-07-26 17:57:04 Ok, I solved the floppy problem. Just need to know if this "modloop" failing to mount is an issue. http://pastebin.com/fFVDghws 2013-07-26 18:14:07 I guess it is an issue. I can't get an IP and idk what to do. 2013-07-26 18:23:24 I guess it doesn't help that I'm trying to install to the same disk I booted from. *sigh* 2013-07-26 22:20:07 Are there any known issues with Alpine booting from esxi 4? 2013-07-26 23:59:58 Niichan: try paxnouderef 2013-07-27 00:00:02 Niichan: as a boot arg 2013-07-27 00:04:54 My isolinux boot prompt should be grsec and then the contents from the config file with paxnouderef appended to it, yes? 2013-07-27 00:22:08 just 'grsec paxnouderef' 2013-07-27 00:22:48 Hangs 2013-07-27 00:23:24 at 100% CPU usage too 2013-07-27 00:23:38 Using the alpine 2.6.2 i386 iso 2013-07-27 00:33:31 hmmph 2013-07-27 01:53:43 Niichan: pax_nouderef 2013-07-27 01:53:49 not paxnouderef 2013-07-27 01:54:09 so at the prompt you'd type: "grsec pax_nouderef" 2013-07-27 01:54:44 jbilyk: Ah, okay 2013-07-27 09:13:12 Anyone know what I should do about this? http://pastebin.com/fFVDghws 2013-07-27 10:03:50 ncopa: ^ 2013-07-27 13:40:27 Good morning... 2013-07-27 13:41:28 How to upgrade to newly released Xen 4.3? 2013-07-27 13:42:02 Anyone know? apk upgrade to edge and I get 4.2.2 r10 2013-07-27 13:43:39 git clone ... brings in 4.3 and I can compile it if I use make dist, but I have a problem with .so's not being the right level. 2013-07-27 13:44:08 I just thought someone here might have done this. It is really a question for xen chat... Hope everyone is having a great weekend 2013-07-28 13:03:22 Finally got it installed. :D 2013-07-29 08:11:22 Hi, 2013-07-29 08:11:32 does alpinelinux support efi ? 2013-07-29 08:33:43 bld: i dont think so 2013-07-29 08:33:48 i havent tested it 2013-07-29 08:34:02 but recent syslinux should support it 2013-07-29 09:28:56 ok, I will try at the next month, when my wife and children are away from home. 2013-07-29 09:41:08 bld: what kinda support? 2013-07-29 09:41:20 i think my sr1625's bios is in uefi mode 2013-07-29 09:41:37 so, well, uh, it works i'm not even sure 2013-07-29 09:41:52 it's not like on ia64 where you have real efi and no "colored bios" 2013-07-29 09:42:04 i know the server boots alpine w/o issue 2013-07-29 09:42:34 but i need to select "boot to efi shell" to see any real efi stuff 2013-07-29 09:59:18 darkfader: I own a asus e45m1 pro board with alpinelinux as dom0. 2013-07-29 09:59:48 currently it boots with bios support enabled, but I plan to use it without bios emulation. 2013-07-31 10:30:18 Hi there, I'm using alpinelinux v2.6.2 and am trying to set up WOL. I'm trying to find where to put the "NETDOWN=no" directive as there is no '/etc/init.d/halt' file and nothing in '/etc/conf.d/' that seems to match network configuration... Does anyone have a hint ? 2013-07-31 10:47:58 I can't seem to find any documentation regarding setting WOL on the wiki, isn't that a rather widespread usecase ? 2013-07-31 10:48:46 arthus: unfortunately it's not widespread and cool i never figured out about NETDOWN=no ;) 2013-07-31 10:49:01 try looking for "busybox" +WOL on google 2013-07-31 10:49:14 since halt is (afaik) handled by busybox 2013-07-31 11:00:56 anyone have tried the testing/zfs packages recently? 2013-07-31 11:01:08 last time i tried it went "toxic" somehow 2013-07-31 12:25:35 darkfader: I'l look for these, thanks 2013-07-31 12:47:16 still no luck, guess I'll have to hardwire the power button to some gpios in order to get this done...