2013-05-01 08:57:00 re 2013-05-01 08:57:52 on the homepage it is said that 3.8.10 is in the main repo 2013-05-01 08:58:15 but actually 3.6.11 is in main, and 3.8.10 is in the edge repo 2013-05-01 09:04:38 the homepage shows edge/main 2013-05-01 09:04:54 it is not edge vs main 2013-05-01 09:04:59 it is edge vs v2.5 2013-05-01 09:05:07 so you have v2.5/main and edge/main 2013-05-01 09:05:10 and edge/testing 2013-05-01 09:28:23 thanks 2013-05-01 12:21:08 how can i extend the retention policy to /var/log/messages? 2013-05-01 12:39:51 run: syslogd -h 2013-05-01 12:40:26 and option to /etc/conf.d/syslog 2013-05-01 12:41:21 echo 'SYSLOGD_OPTS="-s 8192 -b 8"' > /etc/conf.d/syslog 2013-05-01 12:41:30 will rotate log at 8MB 2013-05-01 12:41:44 and keep 8 rotated logs 2013-05-01 13:03:09 thanks 2013-05-01 14:17:39 "Leveraging CentOS and Xen for the GoDaddy private cloud: How we collaborated with the CentOS and Xen projects to build a next-generation platform at GoDaddy. " 2013-05-01 14:17:42 ROFL 2013-05-01 14:18:06 if that's next-gen then i'm running r'lyeh-end-of-time gen 2013-05-01 14:53:46 darkfader: what "server" distro is nextgen in you opinion? 2013-05-01 14:53:49 your 2013-05-01 14:55:34 eto: i think alpine with lbu and some other tricks is in quite a good place. otherwise solaris or aix are both much more modern in my eyes than "standard" distros. but i was really just going on about the cloud part here 2013-05-01 14:56:17 and centos + xen have a history of big issues, which usually resulted in users being stuck on some stale dead-end 2013-05-01 14:56:55 darkfader: arch person here, i am not familiar with alpine too deeply, so i don't know whatlbu is 2013-05-01 14:57:08 lbu is used if you run the system from ram 2013-05-01 14:57:12 darkfader: but in my exprience with opensolaris in vm - solaris is quite flaky 2013-05-01 14:57:32 darkfader: just swap drives around and thing will fuck up 2013-05-01 14:57:47 flaky or not, things like a virtualized network stack or SMF are what i'd consider modern 2013-05-01 14:57:54 darkfader: but i am interested in smartos - i plan to try it in the enar future 2013-05-01 14:58:06 plus opensolaris or smartos are, well, the unsupported OSS side of things :) 2013-05-01 14:58:19 darkfader: zfs is awesome too, i started using it on freebsd and it is amazing thing 2013-05-01 14:58:30 smartos is fun and also has a "boot to ram" mode by default 2013-05-01 14:58:31 darkfader: i would enver trust oracle :) 2013-05-01 14:58:36 but alpine has it down better 2013-05-01 14:58:48 yeah and before it belonged to oracle everyone said "oh, slowlaris" 2013-05-01 14:58:51 darkfader: so it's kinda like ramdisk? 2013-05-01 14:58:55 so i don't see the point 2013-05-01 14:58:58 eto: yeah 2013-05-01 14:59:07 darkfader: would lbu work on arch? 2013-05-01 14:59:11 difference is smartos always boots the same version to ramdisk 2013-05-01 14:59:17 and alpine can even be updated etc. 2013-05-01 14:59:19 darkfader: i am interested in ramdisks and other ram based storage 2013-05-01 14:59:46 eto: idk, i don't even use lbu on alpine since i just needed to get something installed and done with :) 2013-05-01 14:59:59 but $friend uses alpine+lbu for his xen hosts 2013-05-01 15:00:16 it works good for him but i don't know if it could be ported over to arch 2013-05-01 15:00:22 darkfader: only thing for which i would consider smartos is jails/zones, virtualsied network and zfs :) 2013-05-01 15:00:30 yeah hehe 2013-05-01 15:00:39 and that's it's whole point 2013-05-01 15:00:55 darkfader: i hope they fix the break at moved hardware sillyness soon 2013-05-01 15:01:12 zfs and disk swapping will imho never be "good" 2013-05-01 15:01:21 it's their white elephant in the room 2013-05-01 15:01:42 darkfader: i was told solaris is more advanced - but in the end i consider all drivers in kernel ramdisk much more robust and proper solution 2013-05-01 15:02:12 darkfader: this is more about kernel fucking up when you move anything even card in pci slot 2013-05-01 15:02:24 it certainly helps if you have it all in ram 2013-05-01 15:02:42 big pro++++ point for alpine too since it doesnt have too much udev crap 2013-05-01 15:02:55 i.e. we booted centos off usb 2013-05-01 15:03:00 if the port is reset 2013-05-01 15:03:03 darkfader: it tries to be smart windows way which in the end leads to fragile boot process i expected industrial quality os to handle such scenario better, i was acussed of trolling :) 2013-05-01 15:03:04 you loose your rootdev 2013-05-01 15:03:20 and then it can't come back since udev is in uuuuuuuuserspace :) 2013-05-01 15:03:36 hmm 2013-05-01 15:03:46 i guess arch has udev in ramdisk 2013-05-01 15:04:33 alpine is very much about keeping the number of components very low 2013-05-01 15:04:35 i don't rememeber whether it continues to work when i pull out my arch key while being booted from it, also not really in the mood trying it 2013-05-01 15:04:48 heh, i can link you my quote about why i prefered it 2013-05-01 15:05:07 http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2013/03/04/alpine-linux-and-xen/ 2013-05-01 15:05:38 the first quote was me, and i probably could talk 10 times as much and not get the point over better than back then 2013-05-01 15:05:49 but don't forget i didn't use Arch so i can't compare in that direction 2013-05-01 15:06:30 Your blog is the reason that I started using AlpineXen. ...just what I was looking for. 2013-05-01 15:07:43 hehe 2013-05-01 15:07:48 darkfader: thanks for input 2013-05-01 15:08:51 the blog entry is from royger 2013-05-01 15:09:25 Credit where credit is due :-) 2013-05-01 15:09:25 but heh, he started using it because of my ml post to xen-users after i finished hardening centos as xen host 2013-05-01 15:09:29 and it suuuuckered 2013-05-01 15:12:48 The part that I thought would be hard (PCI passthrough) was easy. The part that I thought would be easy (SDL) is hard (for ignorant me, anyway). ...getting closer, and less ignorant 2013-05-01 15:13:39 cool :) 2013-05-01 15:22:17 I have found something interesting with regards to modifying the xen package. It has been very easy to compile when using Alpine 2.5.4. No problems... 2013-05-01 15:23:46 But when I try to do the same with Xen Alpine 2.5.4, I just can't get it done. Strange config and make problems. Don't know what the deal is, just thougth I would report it. 2013-05-01 15:24:05 idk :( 2013-05-01 15:24:47 darkfader: are you in the states, btw? 2013-05-01 15:27:25 nop, germany 2013-05-01 15:30:02 i was in the states in feb, went to vegas and then also visited the #ceph devs for a few hours 2013-05-01 15:30:20 and nyc where it was effin cold but a lot of nice girls there :) 2013-05-01 15:40:07 I am in NY... Visited Germany. Had a great time. Started in Koln (sp?) and ended in Salzburg. 2013-05-01 15:40:35 cool 2013-05-01 15:40:42 I remember a HUGE church called the Dom in Koln. 2013-05-01 15:41:52 I invented and became the CTO of Fiddlehead, multiseat software for schools. Uses Linux as host and VBox as guest for up to 4 Windows VM's. 2013-05-01 15:42:43 oooooohhhh 2013-05-01 15:42:44 Dave1029: interesting idea 2013-05-01 15:43:18 Dave1029: so that way you multiple win xps on one hefty amchine? 2013-05-01 15:43:24 *you have 2013-05-01 15:43:28 Yep... 2013-05-01 15:43:39 and now you're after the extra speed bump when using xen 2013-05-01 15:44:10 ...and the direct passthrough for 3D applications, etc. 2013-05-01 15:45:44 It would not be used like Xen normally is used (as a server based virt box), but rather with two or 4 monitors directly attached. 2013-05-01 15:48:40 Then you can also install a lightweight webserver (something like nginx) on dom0 to allow for an enterprise control panel server to remotely manage the box (s) 2013-05-01 15:49:22 Dave1029: alpine has that builtin 2013-05-01 15:49:48 don't wanna get you sidetracked, but acf is a tiny webserver and framework for building just that 2013-05-01 15:49:56 check it out when it's time 2013-05-01 15:49:56 This webserver would simply process normal http requests and do eveything from turn on/off the VM's, to take snapshots of them, to rebasing them, to actually copying the VM "up" to a central repository, and then back down to a bunch of machines. 2013-05-01 15:50:13 ...regarding acf, that is cool. I was hoping that is what we could use. 2013-05-01 15:50:28 I will check it out! Reinventing the wheel sucks. 2013-05-01 15:50:33 darkfader: doesn't acf use lua? 2013-05-01 15:50:37 eto: yeah 2013-05-01 15:50:46 darkfader: lua fan here ;) 2013-05-01 15:51:07 i'm totally unable to change/modify anything in there, but i like the idea anyway :) 2013-05-01 15:51:20 you can also skin acf for branding or eye candy 2013-05-01 15:52:30 Didn't mean to hijack the conversation between you two. :-) Thanks for the info! 2013-05-01 15:53:55 Dave1029: not really 2013-05-01 15:55:45 i can do well talking to 3-4 people hehe. 2013-05-01 15:56:10 plus i didn't have anything more to say about lua since i don't know anything about it really 2013-05-01 15:58:01 eto: acf is really nice since it's a plugin framework so you can just add a little piece you need, i.e. to manage lvm or whatever and not bother with anything else 2013-05-01 15:58:35 dunno if lua is especially good for that use case. why are you a fan of it? 2013-05-01 16:27:05 darkfader: it is language which is good at expressing both code and data 2013-05-01 16:27:39 darkfader: data in lua reads like ini or something, also it is quit epowerful i hear it can emulate almost any programming style 2013-05-01 16:28:05 procedural, oop, prototype, functional 2013-05-01 16:33:16 Does anyone know what it means (and how to) give a repo a specific label? 2013-05-02 12:00:40 jbilyk_: i saw you did some ARM porting 2013-05-02 12:01:12 is alpine cross-compile friendly? if not i can help building packages on my tablet, will be much quicker than rapsi 2013-05-02 12:01:16 raspi 2013-05-02 12:33:29 darkfader: yes, I started on porting to ARM a while back, but didn't get time to finish 2013-05-02 12:33:59 darkfader: i think fabled and ncopa did some work with crosstools-ng 2013-05-02 12:34:36 long time ago 2013-05-02 12:34:51 there have been many who have asked for raspi support 2013-05-02 12:35:02 and i think at least 3 or 4 has started work on porting alpine 2013-05-02 12:35:06 but.. 2013-05-02 12:35:09 its non-trivial 2013-05-02 12:43:49 I am planning to buy a chromebook, would be nice to run alpine on it. 2013-05-02 12:44:35 its arm, isnt it? 2013-05-02 12:45:06 yes 2013-05-02 12:46:11 ARMv15 2013-05-02 12:47:05 A15 i mean 2013-05-02 12:48:55 ic 2013-05-02 12:49:26 well, just wanted to say i can help with some compile time, because the tablet is really a lot faster than one would expect 2013-05-02 12:49:37 but i don't have the mental stability for porting/qaing any more :) 2013-05-02 14:55:39 Still flailing away at my xen-qemu-dm-sdl work. I am able to build xen-4.2.1-r7.1.apk. I know I need to point /etc/apk/repositories to toward my local repository. The xen-4.2.1-r7.1.apk is in the directory I called /home/user/aports/main/xen. Is that the repository I should point towards in /etc/apk/repositories? When I try to apk add I get "WARNING: Ignoring /media/cdrom/apks/x86/APKINDEX.tar.gz: No such file or directory 2013-05-02 14:55:39 WARNING: Ignoring /home/user/aports/main/x86/APKINDEX.tar.gz: No such file or directory" I see the APKINDEX.tar.gz on the install media under the x86 directory. Do I copy that in? Sorry for all the questions. 2013-05-02 15:02:07 you need to generate an index to make it a repository 2013-05-02 15:04:38 http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Developer_Documentation#Building_from_source_and_creating_packages 2013-05-02 15:18:41 clandmeter: Thanks. I have read all of the doc's under that heading (I guess I obviously have missed something). The one that seems closest is http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux_package_management. It talks about how a repo must have the APKINDEX.tar.gz in it, but I can't find how to generate it. 2013-05-02 15:24:31 clanadmeter: Sorry... I am going to try this: http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Apkindex_format 2013-05-02 15:43:00 Where is APKINDEX.unsigned.tar.gz? When I run "openssl dgst -sha1 -sign /home/user/.abuild/dpeterson478@gmail.com- 2013-05-02 15:43:00 51828592.rsa -out .SIGN.RSA.dpeterson478@gmail.com-51828592.rsa.pub APKINDEX.unsigned.tar.gz", I get a "APKINDEX.unsigned.tar.gz: No such file" error 2013-05-02 15:52:28 Found it... I should have read the entire wiki. The instructions for creating the APKINDEX.unsigned.tar.gz is at the end. apk index -o APKINDEX.unsigned.tar.gz *.apk 2013-05-02 15:54:52 Dave1029: maybe you can make a hint at the place where you had actually expected the information 2013-05-02 15:54:58 i also failed to find it :) 2013-05-02 15:56:55 darkfader: Yep. The order just seems a little out of... 2013-05-02 15:57:01 :-) 2013-05-02 15:59:25 lol 2013-05-02 16:02:33 When I run that apk index -o APKINDEX.unsigned.tar.gz *.apk, I get a bunch of "WARNING: No provider for dependency 'texinfo'"... The final message is "WARNING: Too many unsatisfiable dependencies, not reporting the rest. 2013-05-02 16:02:33 Index has 6 packages (of which 6 are new) 2013-05-02 16:02:33 WARNING: Total of 42 unsatisfiable package names. Your repository maybe broken. 2013-05-02 16:02:33 " 2013-05-02 16:03:17 I installed the ones mentioned, and the message still remained. Any thougths on what is causing those error messages? 2013-05-02 16:04:07 i guess it's saying it only picked the new repository 2013-05-02 16:04:17 and didn't consider the "main" one 2013-05-02 16:04:30 can you please paste your /etc/apk/repositories? 2013-05-02 16:08:50 http://mirrors.gigenet.com/alpinelinux/v2.5/main 2013-05-02 16:08:50 #http://mirrors.gigenet.com/alpinelinux/v2.5/testing 2013-05-02 16:08:50 /home/user/aports/main/ 2013-05-02 20:03:57 Dave1029: I see you struggling to create your own repo. Maybe a silly question. But, have you tried just copying the .apk file to the box and running "apk add xxxxx.apk"? 2013-05-02 20:05:17 No it is not a silly question. I didn't try that. Where would I copy it? 2013-05-02 20:09:48 anywhere 2013-05-02 20:14:35 tdtrask: i tried to do a similar thing yesterday, and i ran into some error i know but forgot how to sokve 2013-05-02 20:14:40 vbackup:~# apk --allow-untrusted add bacula-5.2.12-r5.apk 2013-05-02 20:14:41 ERROR: 1 unsatisfiable dependencies: world: bacula> i had built bacula by hand since it was somehow not in 2.5/main 2013-05-02 20:15:20 so i think there's a missing piece for adding it from the plain file 2013-05-02 20:17:40 tdtrask: Geez... apk add xen-xxx.7.1.apk is working. I did try apk add xen last week, not apk add xen-xxx.7.1.apk (which is what I compiled). I'll let you know how it turns out. 2013-05-02 20:17:43 Thanks 2013-05-02 20:39:58 coolies 2013-05-03 06:41:28 Good morning 2013-05-03 06:41:57 Q: Do we consider 2.4.x as a more stable release than 2.5.x ? 2013-05-03 06:42:28 I just noticed that www.a.o has a link at the bottom of the page "Downloads" 2013-05-03 06:43:03 and when you click "stable x86" or "stable x86_64" you end up in 2.4 iso's 2013-05-03 06:44:57 heh 2013-05-03 06:45:01 thats unintentional 2013-05-03 06:45:13 how are those footer links generated? 2013-05-03 06:45:52 I don't know :-) (Never touched the www.a.o content) 2013-05-03 06:46:50 btw. I'm currently downloading _rc2 and about to test that during the day 2013-05-03 06:47:01 thanks! 2013-05-03 11:37:36 ncopa: changed to 2.6 2013-05-03 11:43:25 Thank you clandmeter 2013-05-03 11:51:03 thanks! 2013-05-03 20:31:45 <_bga> constant "Login incurrect" :/ 2013-05-03 20:31:51 <_bga> *o 2013-05-03 21:41:33 "rc-update: service `xencommons' does not exist" is what I get when (following http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Xen_Dom0), I try to " 2013-05-03 21:41:40 rc-update add xencommons" 2013-05-03 21:43:09 I can "rc-update add xenstored" and "rc-update add xenconsoled" as per another wiki (I can find it again if it is needed), but then I find that xonconsoled doesn't start on boot up because xenstored hasn't started yet. 2013-05-03 21:43:33 Anybody know anything about how to make xencommons "exist", as per the wiki? 2013-05-03 21:45:05 I am ready to test my xen-qemu-dm-sdl package except that I can either NOT build xen on Alpine 2.5.4 (because of what I am currently detailing), or I can't get xen with sdl to abuild -r/./configure/make/make install on Xen Alpine 2.5.4. 2013-05-03 21:45:11 W 2013-05-03 21:46:31 Dave1029: 2013-05-03 21:46:32 xenconsoled | default 2013-05-03 21:46:32 xendomains | default 2013-05-03 21:46:32 xenstored | default 2013-05-03 21:46:45 i think you only need xenstored and xenconsoled 2013-05-03 21:46:51 the xencommons is iirc outdated 2013-05-03 21:47:55 I figured that was the case, so that is what I did, but get an error talking about one or the other not starting because the other one didn't start. 2013-05-03 21:48:11 In Debian you can change the order in which they would start. 2013-05-03 21:48:20 I assume we can do the same with Alpine? 2013-05-03 21:48:57 ...that is just an assumption, that they are starting in the wrong order. I will post the specific error message in a bit. 2013-05-03 21:49:01 waxh0012:~# cat /etc/modules 2013-05-03 21:49:01 af_packet 2013-05-03 21:49:01 xen_netback 2013-05-03 21:49:01 xen_blkback 2013-05-03 21:49:01 tun 2013-05-03 21:49:03 ipv6 2013-05-03 21:49:06 do you have those btw? 2013-05-03 21:49:20 and if they both don't start i WOULD suspect the xen kernel isn't running 2013-05-03 21:49:28 in your /etc/extlinux.conf 2013-05-03 21:49:33 look for the default line 2013-05-03 21:49:40 does it say xen-grsec or something like that? 2013-05-03 21:50:19 please don't hit me if i dont see something you already said, i'm trying to skip a few steps since i don't have time to really think about it 2013-05-03 21:50:36 as per that wiki mentioned, it tells me to # echo "xen_netback" >> /etc/modules 2013-05-03 21:50:36 # echo "xen_blkback" >> /etc/modules 2013-05-03 21:50:36 # echo "tun" >> /etc/modules 2013-05-03 21:50:46 kk 2013-05-03 21:51:04 When I look in /etc/modules, af_packet, xen_netback, xen_blkback and tun are there. Not ipv6 2013-05-03 21:51:05 those are mostly needed to launch vm's i just had it on the list of things i often miss 2013-05-03 21:51:16 Yep... 2013-05-03 21:52:47 I'll post the specific errors I get in a bit. I am moving in the right direction. I am able to apk add xen...mynew7.1.apk on a NON Xen-Alpine2.5.4 2013-05-03 21:54:19 ...but I either can't compile on a Xen-Alpine 2.5.4 or I get an error about untrusted key when I compile on Alpine 2.5.4 and then copy to Xen-Alpine... 2013-05-03 21:56:27 Actually, the compiling of xen with sdl support is really easy. Follow the wiki "http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Creating_an_Alpine_package" up to "Getting some help" 2013-05-03 21:56:34 Then I abuild checksum 2013-05-03 21:56:37 abuild unpack 2013-05-03 21:56:42 abuild installdeps 2013-05-03 21:56:47 abuild -r 2013-05-03 21:57:09 Oops, forgot to change the APKINDEX to reflect rev 7.1 and add sdl-dev in makedepends. 2013-05-03 21:57:24 I do that just before abuild checksum 2013-05-03 21:58:15 So, on Alpine 2.5.4, it works with no glitches, and I have a shiny new xen-4.2.1.7.1.apk, along with several other related xen...7.1.apks for related "stuff". 2013-05-03 21:58:19 But on 2013-05-03 21:58:49 Xen Alpine 2.5.4, I can never get it to abuild -r. ./configure is missing a bunch of dependencies. 2013-05-03 21:59:36 After apk add "all of the dependencies", make fails with a gcc "send the error" to http:gcc.......org but the error doesn't help much. 2013-05-03 22:00:26 So I thought I would compile sdl support into xen-qemu on the non Xen Alpine and then either build Xen on that one, or copy it over to a working Xen box. 2013-05-03 22:00:50 The Xen box gives me an untrusted key error, and I can't get Xen working on the non Xen box. 2013-05-03 22:01:06 Anyway, blah, blah, blah. I'll keep learning. 2013-05-03 22:02:53 ok 2013-05-03 22:03:00 but err 2013-05-03 22:03:21 do you see the xen kernel startup messages or not hehe 2013-05-03 22:03:49 i think you didn't say that, you have my sympathy for the build issues but i can't help with those either 2013-05-03 22:16:00 Yah, I just let it autostart. I will restart and arrow up and watch to make sure that the xen kernel starts up. 2013-05-03 22:33:31 darkfader: You are right, xen kernel isn't starting... I get a "Loading boot xen.gz... failed!" 2013-05-03 22:33:36 No files found! 2013-05-03 22:33:39 boot: 2013-05-03 22:34:22 oki thats at least pinpointed the error 2013-05-03 22:35:09 If I edit the "xen" entry it says /boot/mboot.c32 /boot/xen.gz --- /boot/grsec root= UUID xxxxxxxxxx modules=ext4 --- /boot/grsec.gz 2013-05-03 22:43:36 For some reason the following line didn't show up in my error message on Xchat: 2013-05-03 22:46:47 ON another machine, I get a Failed to load com32, boot/mboot. c32 2013-05-05 11:08:14 I am trying to follow http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Xen_Dom0 (very simple). Upon reboot, I get "Loading /boot/xen.gz... failed! 2013-05-05 11:08:20 No files found! 2013-05-05 11:08:22 boot: 2013-05-05 11:09:03 I would appreciate any insight into this error from anyone that has taken Alpine 2.5.4 and installed Xen. 2013-05-05 11:09:32 Loading Xen-Alpine 2.5.4 works just fine. 2013-05-05 11:19:49 It says to add, to /boot/extlinux.cfg: 2013-05-05 11:19:53 LABEL xen 2013-05-05 11:19:54 KERNEL /boot/mboot.c32 2013-05-05 11:19:54 APPEND /boot/xen.gz --- /boot/grsec root=UUID= modules=ext4 --- /boot/grsec.gz 2013-05-05 11:20:34 /boot/mboot.c32 is located in /boot, and xen downloaded properly 2013-05-05 11:23:01 There is no /boot/xen.gz, though? 2013-05-05 12:11:23 If I copy xen.gz into /boot from a working system, it get past the boot menu, but fails with a kernel panic. 2013-05-05 12:12:09 and "Could not set up Dom0 guest OS 2013-05-05 22:34:38 OK, I copied a new .apk built on one PC to another. I get an untrusted signature when I try to apk add xen-4.2.1-r7.1.apk. Anybody have any insight on that problem, or how to resolve it? 2013-05-06 06:14:06 Dave1029, copy the *public* key from build box's $HOME/.abuild/ to your targets /etc/apk/keys 2013-05-06 10:40:58 nc opa... thanks. will do. I as trying to rebuild the APKINDEX as per http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Apkindex_format on the new box. 2013-05-06 10:41:26 ncopa :-) 2013-05-06 11:03:15 basicall 2013-05-06 11:03:21 you create a key pair 2013-05-06 11:03:27 with abuild-keys 2013-05-06 11:14:24 ncopa: I was using abuild-keygen -a -i 2013-05-06 11:14:29 2013-05-06 11:14:29 yes 2013-05-06 11:14:32 thats what i meant 2013-05-06 11:14:39 OK. Just wanted to make sure. 2013-05-06 11:14:42 it will create a keypair 2013-05-06 11:14:52 onoe public key and one private 2013-05-06 11:15:00 the private is used to sign the packages and the index 2013-05-06 11:15:17 and the public is used to verify the packages and index afterwards 2013-05-06 11:15:44 so you have to copy your .pub to /etc/apk/keys on all machines that will use the repo 2013-05-06 11:16:05 ack. I will do so. 2013-05-06 11:16:50 I am doing this because, I can't seem to build xen-qemu-dm-sdl on Alpine Xen, only on Alpine 2013-05-06 11:17:20 is it a question of enable sdl in a configure flag? 2013-05-06 11:17:22 to xen? 2013-05-06 11:17:57 I am not sure. I know that I can follow your suggestion and git aports... 2013-05-06 11:18:26 ...and then add sdl-dev to APKBUILD and then abuild checksum, abuild unpack, abuild installdeps and then abuild -r 2013-05-06 11:18:45 and I have 6 new xen-xxxx-7.1.apk's 2013-05-06 11:19:31 If I do that on Alpine 2.5.4, but I can't do it when I try it on Xen Alpine 2.5.4. I end up with errors when I "make" 2013-05-06 11:20:26 On the other hand, if I try to take Alpine 2.5.4 and apk add xen and modify /boot/extlinux.cfg, I can't boot because there is no xen.gz in /boot. 2013-05-06 11:20:38 Dave1029: he needs the command you're running and the errors you're getting on pastebin and your apkbuild alongside 2013-05-06 11:20:41 :> 2013-05-06 11:21:26 Thanks...where is pastebin? 2013-05-06 11:21:39 go to paste.ie for example 2013-05-06 11:21:52 or dpaste.org 2013-05-06 11:22:02 TY 2013-05-06 11:22:24 i am interested in the changes you do in the APKBUILD 2013-05-06 11:22:44 can you do: git add sprunge; git diff APKBUILD | sprunge 2013-05-06 11:22:49 and then paste the url in here? 2013-05-06 11:23:01 Will do. I only add sdl-dev to makedepends, and I changed the revision to 7.1. 2013-05-06 11:23:19 sorry that i have not had time to look closer to this 2013-05-06 11:23:45 I will git add sprunge; git diff APKBUILD | sprunge. Is it a ";" or a ":". No problem. I understand busy. 2013-05-06 11:24:07 I have to get the kids to school right now. I'll do as you ask in a bit. 2013-05-06 11:24:38 Thanks again for your help ncopa and darkfader, everyone. 2013-05-06 11:25:00 its a ; 2013-05-06 11:25:26 basically, i want you to "paste" the diff of your apkbuild 2013-05-06 11:25:31 sprunge is like pastebin 2013-05-06 11:26:09 "apk add sprunge", not "git add sprunge" 2013-05-06 11:26:54 thank hl 2013-05-06 11:27:11 im not good at multi tasking :-/ 2013-05-06 11:27:31 heh, multi-tasking 2013-05-06 12:05:07 ncopa: tling wm helps a lot - to multi-procrastinate :) 2013-05-06 12:05:58 eto: i think the problem is in my head :) 2013-05-06 12:06:22 ncopa: same here 2013-05-06 13:21:04 oh I am so glad I found the help channel on alpine 2013-05-06 13:21:09 anyone care to assist ? 2013-05-06 13:23:47 lazarevsky: do you have a specific question? 2013-05-06 13:24:12 yes. How can I setup alpine mail client to work with my hotmail account 2013-05-06 13:24:23 i tried to follow one of the tutorials online but I failed 2013-05-06 13:24:30 I am very new to linux, first time linux user 2013-05-06 13:24:32 coming from windows 2013-05-06 13:28:21 lazarevsky: this channel is for the alpine linux distro, not the alpine mail client 2013-05-06 13:28:25 sorry :) 2013-05-06 13:28:50 oh man.. that's a bummer 2013-05-06 13:28:51 thanks 2013-05-06 13:41:26 ACTION is going to create a package 2013-05-06 13:41:34 fwbuilder 5.1.0 2013-05-06 14:15:04 kocka: awall not good enough? 2013-05-06 14:19:50 awall was written to replace shorewall 2013-05-06 14:25:26 didnt know it had a gui 2013-05-06 14:26:45 i dont think awall has gui (yet?) 2013-05-06 14:27:31 i mean fwbuilder 2013-05-06 14:28:37 afaik awall doesnt. 2013-05-06 14:48:27 clandmeter: with fwbuilder you can easily generate rules on a gui surface, which can be easily compiled to iptables or pf or ipf or cisco asa format 2013-05-06 15:12:18 there is an acf-awall, but it's still manual creation of rules 2013-05-06 15:22:26 I dont understand why awall was written to replace shorewall. I never used shorewall, and current docs are based on shorewall concepts. 2013-05-06 15:37:58 hmm 2013-05-06 15:38:06 which package contains fonts for qt? 2013-05-06 15:38:45 I don't have x server on the alpine vm, just using xauth to running gui apps with xforward 2013-05-06 15:39:11 and i can see only rectangles not letters 2013-05-06 15:40:49 kocka: i'm not sure, but last time I did wireshark over ssh i just installed alpine-desktop meta package 2013-05-06 15:40:57 so it's one of the ~200 packages it pulls in 2013-05-06 15:41:14 :) 2013-05-06 15:41:25 i know...that's not super-helpful :) 2013-05-06 15:43:23 xorg-server was enough 2013-05-06 15:44:00 there are only 14 package remains :) 2013-05-06 15:45:29 ok, it's font-misc-misc \o/ 2013-05-06 16:38:47 hm, maybe i'm blind at the moment: 2013-05-06 16:38:57 how can i check if a package is already installed? 2013-05-06 16:45:15 ah, gefunden 2013-05-06 16:47:31 hm, but it's not working 2013-05-06 16:48:16 apk info --installed mysql 2013-05-06 16:48:16 mysql 2013-05-06 16:48:27 but there is no mysql installed 2013-05-06 16:48:46 so how could i use the option "--installed"? 2013-05-06 17:09:34 StarWarsFan: apk version 2013-05-06 17:39:31 mysql-server or -client? 2013-05-06 17:39:35 what do you need 2013-05-06 17:39:46 i think "mysql" is not a package 2013-05-06 17:40:52 hm it is the server 2013-05-06 17:41:00 sorry for confusing 2013-05-06 17:41:15 but maybe u need the client as well 2013-05-06 17:52:17 kocka: never mind 2013-05-06 17:52:22 mysql was just an example 2013-05-06 17:52:37 the question was, how to determine if a package is installed or not 2013-05-06 17:52:51 jbilyk: thx 2013-05-06 17:53:17 ah 2013-05-06 19:37:15 anyone around who can help me figure why bacula isn't in 2.5/main? 2013-05-06 19:38:21 nvm it's there 2013-05-06 19:38:28 thats something on my end :) 2013-05-06 19:45:46 i'd appreciate some help anyway since i see that on two different boxes 2013-05-06 19:45:52 well, make that three 2013-05-06 19:46:02 apk add bacula - does that work for anybody? 2013-05-06 20:00:42 Worked fine for me. 2013-05-06 20:01:26 darkfader: works here 2013-05-06 20:01:39 thank you 2013-05-06 20:01:43 np 2013-05-06 20:03:36 i hate this. i now even deleted all repos in /var/cache/apk 2013-05-06 20:03:48 and set up a different mirror 2013-05-06 20:03:48 ncopa, sorry this has taken so long.... http://sprunge.us/WfgO 2013-05-06 20:04:07 jbilyk: can you give me your first thought on this: 2013-05-06 20:04:08 vbackup:~# apk add bacula 2013-05-06 20:04:08 ERROR: 1 unsatisfiable dependencies: world: bacula 2013-05-06 20:04:38 i can install bacula-client just fine 2013-05-06 20:04:56 darkfader: does apk add -v bacula say anything useful? 2013-05-06 20:05:02 Only change was add sdl-dev to makedepends and change pkgrel from 7 to 7.1 2013-05-06 20:05:07 nope 2013-05-06 20:06:21 I compiled without any problems. Didn't have to .configure, make, or make install. I just abuild checksum, abuild unpack, abuild installdeps, and abuild -r 2013-05-06 20:06:35 darkfader: try apk fetch -R -o ./ bacula 2013-05-06 20:06:41 see if it can't grab one of the deps 2013-05-06 20:06:56 I can't do that with xen-alpine... 2013-05-06 20:07:09 everything d'led including bacula 2013-05-06 20:07:15 hmm 2013-05-06 20:07:34 darkfader: ncopa and fabled mentioned the other day that one version of apk-tools had broken dep calculator 2013-05-06 20:07:51 that could be it 2013-05-06 20:07:58 darkfader: i think apk-tools 2.3.4 fixed it 2013-05-06 20:08:09 http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/apk-tools/commit/?id=4c08eca3bb844ed51acab1461327f3dd01ce1866 ? 2013-05-06 20:08:12 my inner voices all go "but i bet it's something i broke" 2013-05-06 20:08:24 mine say that quite often too :) 2013-05-06 20:12:09 i'm doing an apk upgrade 2013-05-06 20:12:12 to 2.6 2013-05-06 20:12:48 it's a backup server that can't restore backups so the different if i break it is... limited 2013-05-06 20:13:28 vbackup:/tmp# apk add bacula 2013-05-06 20:13:29 (1/1) Installing bacula (5.2.12-r5) 2013-05-06 20:13:41 so thank you, it must have been that dependency issue 2013-05-06 20:13:58 on second thought, i could have tried re-ordering the apkindex ;) 2013-05-06 20:14:30 and heh, alpine full update time? one minute 2013-05-06 20:14:44 that's part of why i really like alpine :) 2013-05-06 20:15:06 someone should fire off a GSoC project next year for kexec support in updates 2013-05-06 20:15:37 jbilyk: yeah it makes you happy if it just flies by and the job is done 2013-05-06 21:44:39 n8@all 2013-05-07 02:17:34 ncopa: I really AM trying...:-) 2013-05-07 02:17:47 Here's what I did: 2013-05-07 02:18:37 abuild -r a new xen-qemu-dm-sdl abuild-keygen -a -i 2013-05-07 02:19:15 Built it on Alpine 2.5.4 2013-05-07 02:19:35 copied it over to a PC built with Xen-Alpine 2.5.4 2013-05-07 02:19:48 Put pub key in /etc/apk/keys 2013-05-07 02:20:05 copied new apk's an put them in /home 2013-05-07 02:20:10 cd'd to /home 2013-05-07 02:20:22 Ran apk add xen xxxx-7.1.apk 2013-05-07 02:20:26 Untrusted signature 2013-05-07 02:21:07 ...Sorry. Talk to you tomorrow. 2013-05-07 02:24:39 The reason I am going through this exercise of building on non-Xen and copying to Xen-Alpine, is because: 2013-05-07 02:25:03 1) I can't compile xen-qemu-dm-sdl on Xen-Alpine, and 2013-05-07 02:26:18 2) I can't install Xen on Alpine 2.5.4 installation. Xen.gz is missing in /boot. I can copy it in, but then kernel panic. 2013-05-07 02:26:35 Let me know if you want any documentation or logs... 2013-05-07 04:23:40 Good morning 2013-05-07 19:40:30 Does anyone know where the log files are located after trying to compile a package? 2013-05-07 19:48:17 Dave1029: using abuild? 2013-05-07 19:49:15 Either way: abuild -r, or ./configure, make, make install... neither methods are working 2013-05-07 19:49:26 Dave1029: typically with both, stdout 2013-05-07 19:49:32 as far as I remember 2013-05-07 19:53:14 OK, sorry for the ignorance. How would I use stdout so that I can peruse the error...? 2013-05-07 20:00:47 I used make &>log.txt to see if it gave me anything of any use. Nothing more than what comes up on the screen. What comes up on the screen is: 2013-05-07 20:00:53 {standard input}: Assembler messages: 2013-05-07 20:00:53 {standard input}: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted 2013-05-07 20:00:53 {standard input}: Error: open CFI at the end of file; missing .cfi_endproc directive 2013-05-07 20:00:53 gcc: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1) 2013-05-07 20:00:53 Please submit a full bug report, 2013-05-07 20:00:54 with preprocessed source if appropriate. 2013-05-07 20:00:56 See for instructions. 2013-05-07 20:00:58 make[4]: *** [x86_emulate.o] Error 4 2013-05-07 20:01:00 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/user/aports/main/xen/src/xen-4.2.1/xen/arch/x86' 2013-05-07 20:01:02 make[3]: *** [/home/user/aports/main/xen/src/xen-4.2.1/xen/arch/x86/built_in.o] Error 2 2013-05-07 20:01:04 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/user/aports/main/xen/src/xen-4.2.1/xen/arch/x86' 2013-05-07 20:01:06 make[2]: *** [/home/user/aports/main/xen/src/xen-4.2.1/xen/xen] Error 2 2013-05-07 20:01:08 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/user/aports/main/xen/src/xen-4.2.1/xen' 2013-05-07 20:01:10 make[1]: *** [install] Error 2 2013-05-07 20:01:12 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/user/aports/main/xen/src/xen-4.2.1/xen' 2013-05-07 20:01:14 make: *** [install-xen] Error 2 2013-05-07 20:01:43 Dave1029: maybe it's stderr, so how about: 2013-05-07 20:01:52 make 2&>1 > log.txt 2013-05-07 20:02:02 or rather make > log.txt 2&>1 2013-05-07 20:02:14 ACTION is dyslexic today 2013-05-07 20:02:20 other way around i think 2013-05-07 20:02:25 2>&1 ;-) 2013-05-07 20:02:35 StarWarsFan: see my dyslexia comment :) 2013-05-07 20:02:36 thx 2013-05-07 20:02:52 :) 2013-05-07 20:02:54 just consider it to be like a puzzle :D 2013-05-07 20:04:41 TY jbilyk and StarWarsFan... I'll try 2013-05-07 20:09:13 Same thing... 2013-05-07 20:10:04 Interesting thing is that this effort works fine with Alpine 2.5.4, but not with Xen-Alpine 2.5.4 2013-05-07 20:26:40 Jeez... As I typed out "...works fine with Alpine but not with Xen-Alpine", I asked myself what is the diff between the two. I have done that a hundred times, over the past week. 2013-05-07 20:27:00 I thought for sure it was a dependency or something. 2013-05-07 20:27:07 It was the RAM! 2013-05-07 20:27:30 Dom0 only gets 256 MB so that error was telling me that I was running out of memory, go figure. 2013-05-07 20:27:40 I upped to 2048MB and abuild -r worked just fine. 2013-05-07 20:29:21 Hi. could some one whom might know give me a clue to where to start looking when ifconfig tells me that.. "ioctl 0x8913 failed: no such device" when trying to run ifconfig ppp0 up. usb_modeswitch seems to have sorted my huawei modem 2013-05-07 20:37:50 jirido: http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Using_HSDPA_modem 2013-05-07 20:38:04 :P 2013-05-07 20:43:51 hops i did disconect so if i got an answer please repeet 2013-05-07 20:44:13 [22:37:49] jirido: http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Using_HSDPA_modem 2013-05-07 20:44:27 :) 2013-05-07 20:44:32 ok! i go look 2013-05-07 20:44:48 jirido: imo you're missing the kernel module 2013-05-07 20:44:59 take a look at the site … 2013-05-07 20:45:38 it has worked ok until a few days ago and it was mighty hard for me to set up initialy 2013-05-07 20:46:09 im an old man and no genius 2013-05-07 20:46:34 :) 2013-05-07 20:47:57 the wiki explains how to set it up for huawei e378, don't know if you have the same model, but it could apply ... 2013-05-07 20:58:14 ukolar, yes it might! i have it setup right like that.. and it seems right.. but i have to try now with my modem so for a while ... goodby :) 2013-05-07 21:51:42 ukolar, hi again... It seeams like ppp had uninstalled itself..?? module pppd were not found in modules.dep... wery strange! Anyway i have one copy down here now on a usb stick but installing direct from usb.. whith apk add /media/usb/ppp-2.4.5.tar.gz gives me 3 warnings about ignoring apkindex 553a4d9.tar.gz, 954f92d1.tar.gz, bf0ac636.tar.gz and one unsatisfiable dependenciy... same warning comes on apk info ppp.. Is there a 2013-05-07 21:51:42 way to download ppp with all dependencies and a way to make apk to install them all from the same folder 2013-05-07 21:55:56 jirido: someone hinted me that way yesterday let me see my scrollback 2013-05-07 21:56:24 apk fetch -R -o ./ ppp 2013-05-07 21:56:32 downloads it and all depends to . 2013-05-07 21:56:43 yes! 2013-05-07 21:56:52 part two (install from folder) is a different issue 2013-05-07 21:56:55 but no 2013-05-07 21:56:58 you might need to build an index there 2013-05-07 21:57:12 yes but no... lol 2013-05-07 21:57:27 i cant get net on that mashine i have a lubuntu i can use 2013-05-07 21:57:44 mmh 2013-05-07 21:57:48 and on to a stick and so on lol 2013-05-07 21:58:03 Downloading libc-0.9.33.2-r18 2013-05-07 21:58:03 Downloading libpcap-1.3.0-r0 2013-05-07 21:58:03 Downloading ppp-2.4.5-r7 2013-05-07 21:58:10 those are the 3 it fetched 2013-05-07 21:58:16 on 2.6 2013-05-07 21:58:35 ok so they dont have any dependensies and so on and on 2013-05-07 21:58:45 thats good 2013-05-07 21:59:32 ok so them first from the stick then.. and the warnings are not so serious? 2013-05-07 21:59:55 im on 2.4 2013-05-07 22:00:18 just grab the same things for 2.4 2013-05-07 22:00:27 i doubt there will be different dependencies 2013-05-07 22:00:32 ok i go!! 2013-05-07 22:00:37 as to warnings, idk ;) 2013-05-07 22:03:16 sleepy again so i'll probably be off 2013-05-07 22:03:29 i hope the warnings won't bite :) 2013-05-07 22:04:31 is it the tarballs from the projekt sites i take or.. i dont find any links to packages on alpines site.. i may be linkblind though 2013-05-07 22:05:43 yeah thats blindness 2013-05-07 22:05:44 sec 2013-05-07 22:06:01 http://alpinelinux.org/apk/main/x86/libpcap for an example the url goes to an external site 2013-05-07 22:06:12 http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v2.4/main/ 2013-05-07 22:06:21 work from there 2013-05-07 22:07:09 ok thanks 2013-05-07 22:07:29 or you can download one of the iso's and copy the apk dir to your usb and add that dir as repo 2013-05-07 22:07:41 I think in the default iso it should have ppp 2013-05-07 22:21:52 darkfader, clandmeter Ok it swalowed ppp and libc0 but says it cant find dependencies for libcap even though libcaps only dependency is libc0 ... strange.. and it said "replacing" ppp when it were added but still says that module pppd is not found in modules.dep is there a way to add something to or update modules.dep? 2013-05-07 22:24:46 can i got some fault with modules.dep It is a small solid state disk on 500mb 2013-05-07 22:26:29 did you try just running depmod again 2013-05-07 22:26:50 i just tried 2013-05-07 22:27:12 but it still says it cant find anything on pppd 2013-05-07 22:27:47 but i did it without any switch..? any sugestion on switch? 2013-05-07 22:28:38 i think depmod -r 2013-05-07 22:28:59 didnt work for me since i didn't yet reboot after an update 2013-05-07 22:29:13 so i don't have the modules for my running kernel around *errrrrrrr* 2013-05-07 22:29:32 you know it writes a file named modules.dep 2013-05-07 22:29:45 that one would need to contain a line that says ppp-something 2013-05-07 22:30:10 you can also just find /lib/modules -name "*ppp*" for a start 2013-05-07 22:30:21 gl and good nigh 2013-05-07 22:31:42 ok i try Thank you wery much for your help my friend and have a good night and sleep good 2013-05-07 22:39:24 it found 10 different modules with ppp in the name in /lib/modules but no pppd... is that totaly wrong? there is one 2013-05-07 22:39:35 generic 2013-05-07 22:51:10 clandmeter, Do you know how to generate an APKINDEX.tar.gz for that local folder 2013-05-08 09:27:05 no 2013-05-08 09:27:11 well 2013-05-08 09:27:12 yes 2013-05-08 09:27:18 getchar() is broke 2013-05-08 09:27:23 hehe 2013-05-08 09:27:32 i think it is due to the setvbuf() 2013-05-08 09:27:50 if we dont mess with the buffers it works 2013-05-08 09:35:03 found this one - is rather cute: http://st.suckless.org/ 2013-05-08 09:36:25 a working X terminal in 3k lines of code :) 2013-05-08 09:37:20 heh 2013-05-08 09:37:22 yeah 2013-05-08 09:37:28 How do I scroll back up? 2013-05-08 09:37:28 Using a terminal multiplexer. 2013-05-08 09:37:29 st -e tmux using C-a [ 2013-05-08 09:37:29 st -e screen using C-a ESC 2013-05-08 09:37:30 :) 2013-05-08 09:37:33 yeah 2013-05-08 09:37:35 funny 2013-05-08 09:38:22 I'm thinking of abusing that code by piping output through OpenGL. 2013-05-08 09:40:15 so that my terminal can look like a star wars scroller (very important!) ;) 2013-05-08 12:28:06 jaw: I added st 2013-05-08 12:54:42 ncopa: kewl 2013-05-08 15:28:00 so now I am working on getting X up and running. Alpine 2.5.4 works fine. I followed the lxde wiki howto. 2013-05-08 15:30:50 Sorry... Xen-Alpine doesn't. I will be working on this today. Just thought someone might know a specifc pkg that is missing... 2013-05-08 15:31:13 ? 2013-05-08 15:32:28 Now that I have built a xen-qemu-dm-sdl apk, I will need X (right?) in order to use sdl. 2013-05-08 15:33:41 http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/XFCE_Setup worked fine with Alpine... 2013-05-08 15:45:45 with Xen-Alpine, rc-status tells me that lxdm is crashed. 2013-05-08 15:47:43 Dave1029: do you have udev enabled? 2013-05-08 15:51:12 rc-status says udev-postmount and udev-mount are "started" 2013-05-08 15:51:23 rc-status also says that mdev is started 2013-05-08 15:57:15 kaniini: I apk add udev and then rc-update udev add, then reboot 2013-05-08 15:57:43 I now have udev in default and no more mdev. 2013-05-08 15:58:39 rc-service lxdm start blanks the screen for a moment, and then back to terminal 2013-05-08 15:58:54 rc-status shows me that lxdm is crashed. 2013-05-08 16:00:20 Xorg.log.0 complains about "(EE) Failed to load module "modesetting" (module does not exist, 0)" and same for fbdev 2013-05-08 16:01:00 ... and (EE) RADEON(0): V_BIOS address 0x0 out of range 2013-05-08 16:41:25 is there a dev package for libuuid? I'm working on a build of rsyslog 7.3.14 (beta) - and am having difficulty with the build failing on missing uuid. 2013-05-08 16:41:57 an apk search shows libuuid-2.22.2-r0 (twice, oddly enough) 2013-05-08 16:50:47 aha - think I need util-linux-dev. never mind! 2013-05-09 06:15:51 Dave1029, i think you need enable kms for the radeon kernel module 2013-05-09 06:16:16 options radeon modeset=1 2013-05-09 06:16:28 in /etc/modprobe.d/* 2013-05-09 10:47:30 ncopa: Thanks. I'll do that and report back... 2013-05-09 13:29:47 ncopa: It appears that kms is enabled... 2013-05-09 13:29:51 # enable modeset 2013-05-09 13:29:52 options radeon modeset=1 2013-05-09 13:29:52 options i915 modeset=1 2013-05-09 13:30:15 ...is the contents of /etc/modprobe.d/kms.conf 2013-05-09 13:47:09 ncopa: I changed options radeo modeset=1 to "options radeon modeset=0" and it works now 2013-05-09 13:47:41 That is, lxdm launches... ??? What are the ramifications with modeset off? 2013-05-09 13:48:21 Oh, I had logged into the vanilla kernel, not the Xen enabled kernel. S 2013-05-09 13:48:29 Something to do with Xen... 2013-05-09 14:01:39 OK, so I am going to rebuild Xen Alpine again... It appears that lxdm/startx works just fine when you choose Linux 3.6.11-grsec, but when you boot to Xen+ Linux 3.6.11-grsec, it doesn't 2013-05-09 14:09:32 Xen and X have typically had issues getting along 2013-05-09 14:19:36 OK, I will continue working and reporting on this. We should be able to have them work together. :-) They certainly do on other distro's. 2013-05-09 14:40:12 Yep... I rebuilt Xen-Alpine 2.5.4. If I boot into Alpine, x starts no problem. If I boot into Xen, I get "XKB: Failed to compile keymap 2013-05-09 14:40:13 Keyboard initialization failed. This could be a missing or incorrect setup of xkeyboard-config" 2013-05-09 15:50:59 using alpine-iso trying to create an iso following the tutorial - I'm getting a /usr/share/syslinux/ldlinux.c32 not found in archive error and then the build bombs out. is this familiar to anyone? 2013-05-09 17:36:53 xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server 2013-05-09 17:36:53 xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. 2013-05-09 17:37:56 This might make me think that xorg isn't set up correctly, but I don't think it is, because of the fact that same config file works with stright A 2013-05-09 17:38:06 ...straight Alpine... 2013-05-10 01:43:29 It's the ****'ing ATI card or driver that is causing the problem in Xen. I don't have the background to understand why the same card works if I choose the straight Alpine boot menu item, but not with the Xen-Alpine boot menu. 2013-05-10 01:44:32 I can startx when I use the onboard video card. I apk add xf86-video-ati... 2013-05-10 01:45:27 ...for the ati card. 2013-05-10 01:45:40 I apk add xf86-video-intel for the onboard. 2013-05-10 02:05:11 Dave1029: xen does voodoo 2013-05-10 02:05:18 Dave1029: with pci devices 2013-05-10 02:05:24 Dave1029: that X doesn't work well with 2013-05-10 02:06:46 In my previous life, when one of my programmers couldn't solve something, my "pat" answer was "STUPID COMPUTERS!" 2013-05-10 02:08:18 So, I just have to figure out what is done in Fedora (what I used to use as the base) or Debian that allows Xen/SDL to work with X. Thanks for the sympathetic ear, and the help. 2013-05-10 02:18:25 BTW, I like Alpine a whole lot better than any other distro that I have been working on for this project. It is something to be proud of. 2013-05-10 08:13:09 Dave1029: I like Alpine because it is the only linux distro that have an out of the box working grsec kernel 2013-05-10 08:14:29 well there are some live cd desktop for being anonymous, but for server purpose.. 2013-05-11 20:47:24 does anyone know why pidgin doesn't support irc on Alpine? 2013-05-12 14:59:25 1 2013-05-12 15:06:48 hey - I'm just learning about lvm here using a vm of alpine, and I got a question: I just created a volume group (vg0) and added /dev/sda1 to it. Then I made a logic volume out of that called bob. I formatted /dev/vg0/bob as ext3, mounted it, and it works fine. Then I reboot the vm with a fresh instance of alpine (no settings were saved except the contents of the hard drive). Now lvdisplay shows that the logical volume bob exists, and shows its pat 2013-05-12 15:13:46 "vgchange -ay" - got it 2013-05-12 15:14:02 what's the -y for? it's not in the man page. Anyone know? 2013-05-12 15:15:34 nvm - just spotted it in the man page. just had a different formatting than the other options so a search didn't find it. 2013-05-12 18:48:41 anyone here 2013-05-12 19:26:09 s 2013-05-12 19:26:11 oops 2013-05-12 19:32:48 hi there 2013-05-12 19:33:04 is there a problem with the iso-build at the moment? 2013-05-12 19:33:29 if i try this: 2013-05-12 19:33:38 make PROFILE=alpine-rescue iso 2013-05-12 19:33:47 it starts but breaks with this message: 2013-05-12 19:34:04 Downloading syslinux-4.05-r1 2013-05-12 19:34:04 ==> iso: install ldlinux.c32 2013-05-12 19:34:04 Downloading syslinux-4.05-r1 2013-05-12 19:34:04 tar: usr/share/syslinux/ldlinux.c32: not found in archive 2013-05-12 19:35:26 it should work with edge packages 2013-05-12 19:35:31 syslinux-5 broke some things. 2013-05-12 19:35:36 well, changed. 2013-05-12 19:35:54 ah ok, i tried this with 2.4 2013-05-12 19:36:04 so i should try it with edge? 2013-05-12 19:36:06 you could use an older git revision 2013-05-12 19:39:35 hm... 2013-05-12 21:43:45 StarWarsFan: oh! I ran into that problem yesterday 2013-05-12 21:44:03 StarWarsFan: you need to revert your alpine-iso checkout a few commits 2013-05-12 21:44:22 StarWarsFan: there's a checkin that adds isolinux 5 support, and that's what is causing your issue 2013-05-12 21:47:50 StarWarsFan: after you checkout alpine-iso, you want to revert to commit 4fc8419f46c.... 2013-05-13 03:36:41 taotetek: ok, thx a lot 2013-05-13 03:36:45 will try that 2013-05-13 14:42:50 Still working on trying to get X to run with the Xen kernel. I notice that grep DRM_RADEON /boot/config-3.6.11-grsec tells me that CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS is not set. Does this make any difference, or would it make sense to rebuild the kernel. 2013-05-13 14:59:19 Dave1029: i *think* you need DRM for SDL 2013-05-13 14:59:29 but not for X 2013-05-13 14:59:33 i think 2013-05-13 14:59:35 :) 2013-05-13 15:21:35 darkfaded: I don't understand. Is the use of DRM mutually exclusive? 2013-05-13 15:21:51 ...you think? :-) 2013-05-13 15:23:06 hehe 2013-05-13 15:23:28 my understanding was that DRM is used when X isn't running. but maybe thats bullshit 2013-05-13 15:23:55 anyway, you raise your chances if you have your drm_radeon around 2013-05-13 15:39:23 OK, so I'll try and recompile with it on. It's not like X and Xen don't work together in other distro's. 2013-05-13 20:19:38 OK, so if I am going to recompile the kernel, any tips on where to start. I'd like to use the grsec Alpine kernel, and not start with the vanila kernel source. 2013-05-13 20:19:42 ? 2013-05-13 20:46:19 Dave1029: i'd start with the APKBUILD for linux-grsec 2013-05-13 20:46:50 thanks... can do. 2013-05-13 22:13:37 CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS should be set 2013-05-13 22:13:50 we support KMS on radeon -- i am using it right now on grsec kernel 2013-05-13 22:28:36 kaniini: So if I grep DRM_RADEON /boot/config-3.6.11-grsec and it tells me that CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS is not set, that might be why I can't start X on the Xen-Alpine kernel? 2013-05-13 22:29:26 My etc/modprobe.d/kms.cfg looks like this: 2013-05-13 22:29:31 # enable modeset 2013-05-13 22:29:31 options radeon modeset=1 2013-05-13 22:29:31 options i915 modeset=1 2013-05-13 22:32:29 BTW, if I use the onboard video card (xf86-video-intel), I can start x from the both boot options (xen-grsec, and grsec). 2013-05-13 22:33:33 With an ATI card and xf86-video-intel, I can't launch from xen-grsec, I can only launch x from grsec. 2013-05-13 22:43:22 Dave1029: KMS is enabled on radeon on 3.6.11 2013-05-13 22:43:50 i think] 2013-05-13 22:44:06 if not enable it :) 2013-05-13 22:46:02 OK, how to do that? On my current build machine, I am at 3.8.12, and it, and 3.6.11 shows: 2013-05-13 22:46:06 localhost:/home/user/aports/main/linux-grsec# grep DRM_RADEON /boot/config-3.8.1 2013-05-13 22:46:07 2-0-grsec 2013-05-13 22:46:07 CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=m 2013-05-13 22:46:07 # CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS is not set 2013-05-13 22:46:31 Do I need to recompile linux-grsec? 2013-05-13 22:47:48 Sorry for my ignorance...:-( 2013-05-13 22:49:53 I can find the kernel config file, but it says to not edit... I can't make config 2013-05-13 22:50:59 sorry...I can make menuconfig, if I (duh) go to the right directory. 2013-05-14 06:01:17 isnt it possible to enable KMS from modprobe.d? 2013-05-14 06:01:31 or boot option? 2013-05-14 06:01:37 modeset=1 2013-05-14 06:45:13 yes, also audio=1 is a good idea 2013-05-14 06:45:15 for hdmi audio 2013-05-14 07:05:15 audio broke on my laptop with 3.5 kernel or something 2013-05-14 07:05:26 well speakers 2013-05-14 07:05:59 i think the detection on line-out jack broke 2013-05-14 07:06:16 with the extended powersave in audio drivers 2013-05-14 12:24:42 ncopa: It appears that KMS is enabled in modprobe in the Alpine Xen kernel. 2013-05-14 12:25:01 The contents of /etc/modprobe.d/kms.cfg are: 2013-05-14 12:25:05 # enable modeset 2013-05-14 12:25:05 options radeon modeset=1 2013-05-14 12:25:06 options i915 modeset=1 2013-05-14 19:12:18 which package does dig come with? 2013-05-14 19:17:26 bind-tools 2013-05-14 19:17:30 ukolar: ^ 2013-05-14 19:17:47 thx! :P 2013-05-15 00:20:46 Holy smokes... I finally got sdl support working in Xen...! Thanks everyone, kaniini, ncopa, darkfaded, jbilyk, for the help. 2013-05-15 00:21:31 Still isn't quite there. ATI/Radeon isn't quite there. Full screen sdl isn't quite there. But getting closer... 2013-05-15 00:21:34 Thanks again. 2013-05-15 12:31:47 I am checking out this wiki page: http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_Setup_Scripts 2013-05-15 12:33:04 Do I understand right when I assume you either run setup-alpine alone, or then setup-interfaces + setup-timezone + setup-disk all after each other? 2013-05-15 12:34:04 What I want to do is an install to two identical disks (RAID1). I still want to configure things like keyboard layout. 2013-05-15 12:42:44 you can look at the /sbin/setup-alpine sources 2013-05-15 12:43:07 or you can run setup-alpine first and select 'none' when it asks for disks 2013-05-15 12:43:17 and set up the disks afterwards 2013-05-15 12:43:24 do you intend to boot from the disks? 2013-05-15 12:43:33 Yes 2013-05-15 12:43:45 do you want different partitioning scheme? 2013-05-15 12:44:18 At this point whatever it creates will be ok. This is just for testing at this moment. If it ends up in production, I might create another scheme 2013-05-15 12:44:31 ok 2013-05-15 12:44:49 then I'd suggest: run setup-alpine, select 'none' when it asks for disks 2013-05-15 12:44:52 So setup-alpine followed by setup-disk? 2013-05-15 12:44:59 you chould skipt the apk cache to 'none' 2013-05-15 12:45:02 and then 2013-05-15 12:45:30 you run setup-disk /dev/sda /dev/sdb 2013-05-15 12:45:35 hey wait 2013-05-15 12:45:50 i think you can specify both disks when setup-alpine asks for it first time 2013-05-15 12:46:07 if you specify 2 disks it will raid1 it for you 2013-05-15 12:46:16 Ah, okay. I will test that. The documentation is a bit confusing but I will try 2013-05-15 12:46:19 if you specify 3 it will raid5 it for you 2013-05-15 12:47:06 12:46 <@ncopa> if you specify 2 disks it will raid1 it for you 2013-05-15 12:47:07 heh 2013-05-15 12:47:15 i'll try add that note in the wiki tonight 2013-05-15 12:47:23 that's a good thing to know :) 2013-05-15 12:47:30 engblom: test if it actually does it! 2013-05-15 12:47:48 i *think* it should do it but my mem might be weak... 2013-05-15 12:48:13 I am going to test within a few minutes. 2013-05-15 12:50:24 Okay, now it is installing to disk. It looks like it worked, but I will know after it is ready 2013-05-15 12:52:48 Thanks! Now I have a RAID1 running! 2013-05-15 12:53:29 sweet! 2013-05-15 12:54:21 if you want it on lvm you'll have to run setup-disk separately, with -L 2013-05-15 12:54:56 or if you want setup raid1 with a single disk (setup-disk -r) 2013-05-15 12:57:00 Now I want qemu+kvm (or something else if qemu+kvm is not recommended) 2013-05-15 13:00:10 Is kvm+qemu supported? Or is only xen or vserver? 2013-05-15 13:00:23 Both xen and vserver are mentioned in the wiki 2013-05-15 13:01:17 alpine as host or guest? 2013-05-15 13:01:24 i use kvm 2013-05-15 13:01:29 As host. 2013-05-15 13:01:32 its pretty well supported 2013-05-15 13:02:25 we use libvirt/qemu/kvm for www/bugs/rsync.alpinelinux.org 2013-05-15 13:02:28 I am looking at Alpine because I want a minimal linux with as few packages as possible that might break. This computer will only run virtual machines, nothing else. Thus once I have kvm + qemu setup I am ready. 2013-05-15 13:02:49 kvm works 2013-05-15 13:03:03 i use it as main development platform 2013-05-15 13:03:09 well 2013-05-15 13:03:16 i use lxc too :) 2013-05-15 13:03:27 i have a windows guest on my alpine desktop 2013-05-15 13:03:36 in qemu 2013-05-15 13:03:44 and libvirt/virt-manager 2013-05-15 13:04:19 but libvirt is not really 'minimal' 2013-05-15 13:05:24 apk add qemu and I am having everything? 2013-05-15 13:05:39 you lack management tools to autoamtically strat the guests 2013-05-15 13:05:47 start* 2013-05-15 13:06:07 i'm looking at the host running www.a.o 2013-05-15 13:06:11 which uses libvirt 2013-05-15 13:06:14 Is there any wiki page I missed, that I should look at? 2013-05-15 13:06:19 tmpfs 7.8G 130.7M 7.7G 2% / 2013-05-15 13:06:27 i think its just not documented 2013-05-15 13:06:39 we run it from RAM 2013-05-15 13:06:39 Ah :( 2013-05-15 13:06:55 we boot from usb 2013-05-15 13:06:59 and run it from tmpfs 2013-05-15 13:07:06 mount disks for the guests 2013-05-15 13:07:15 and libvirt wasnt too bad 2013-05-15 13:07:20 130M 2013-05-15 13:08:07 thats a minimal libvirt/qemu/kvm host 2013-05-15 13:08:10 + kernel 2013-05-15 13:09:00 apk add qemu-x86_64 libvirt 2013-05-15 13:09:06 and you should have everything 2013-05-15 13:09:12 ok! Thanks! 2013-05-15 19:00:50 I noticed the redis package which I could build on alpine 2.5.4 is not building on the 2.6r4 prerelease. it appears to be failing when trying to add the group "redis" (and of course I'm not running abuild as root) 2013-05-15 19:03:10 if I remove the "pkggroups" variable it builds - is this a change in abuild behavior from 2.5.4 to 2.6? 2013-05-15 19:06:23 taotetek: i dont think anything changed in that part 2013-05-15 19:07:21 clandmeter: when I have a little time I'll boot up 2.5.4 and try building the package there to verify what I'm seeing. does abuild log the cause of errors it encounters anywhere? 2013-05-15 19:07:51 do you have an error msg? 2013-05-15 19:08:25 redis: Creating group redis 2013-05-15 19:08:28 ERROR: redis: all failed 2013-05-15 19:09:05 so not much of a detailed error message, hah. 2013-05-15 19:09:22 but if I commment out pkggroups="redis" then it builds 2013-05-15 19:09:35 so I'm assuming for some reason it's trying to add the group to my build host, and then failing because I'm not root 2013-05-15 19:09:38 is that pkg in aports? 2013-05-15 19:10:11 in aports under testing, yes 2013-05-15 19:10:27 ah ok 2013-05-15 19:10:28 I built the same package yesterday on 2.5.4 and didn't run into the error 2013-05-15 19:10:29 im checking it now. 2013-05-15 19:11:26 aha 2013-05-15 19:11:46 hmm, no, negate that aha 2013-05-15 19:11:50 still reading up on abuild ;) 2013-05-15 19:11:57 it works fine 2013-05-15 19:12:07 clandmeter: interesting - so you're not having the error 2013-05-15 19:12:19 is there any other group other than abuild that I should add my user to? 2013-05-15 19:12:32 wondering if it's a permissions problem on my end. 2013-05-15 19:14:18 are you sure there is no error msg? 2013-05-15 19:14:32 could be you need to scroll little higher 2013-05-15 19:14:42 that happens wtih parralel builds 2013-05-15 19:15:13 no other errors 2013-05-15 19:15:30 downloads the source, checks the md5sums, unpacks the source, tries to create group redis 2013-05-15 19:15:33 then ERROR: redis: all failed 2013-05-15 19:15:37 then uninstalls deps 2013-05-15 19:16:28 other than that, everything else has been building fine today. 2013-05-15 19:18:09 clandmeter: if I manually add a redis user and group, then it builds 2013-05-15 19:18:41 taotetek: your build system is uptodate? 2013-05-15 19:18:57 apk update && apk upgrade 2013-05-15 19:18:57 let me check 2013-05-15 19:19:01 and git pull ofc 2013-05-15 19:19:16 yes - installed 2.6r4 a few hours ago - no updates, and nothing from git pull 2013-05-15 19:19:51 clandmeter: if you're not experiencing the problem and you're also on 2.6 - I'll try a fresh install later today, and verify if I have the issue again 2013-05-15 19:20:06 clandmeter: to make certain I haven't done something odd without realizing it. 2013-05-15 19:20:43 taotetek: what does dmesg say? 2013-05-15 19:21:23 I didn't see anything out of place in dmesg, nor in /var/log/messages 2013-05-15 19:21:32 but I could have missed somethign 2013-05-15 19:22:10 nothing obvious though. 2013-05-15 19:25:18 taotetek: you can find a bug if you like. assing it to ncopa. he takes care of abuild. 2013-05-15 19:25:57 err: file 2013-05-15 19:26:23 my mind plays tricks on me 2013-05-15 19:26:37 clandmeter: this evening, I'm going to try the same routine w/ 2.5.4, then try again with 2.6r4. that way I can verify that I see the same behavior (or not) so I can give a little more information that might be useful 2013-05-15 19:26:47 clandmeter: and if I'm still having the issue I'll file w/ the details 2013-05-15 19:27:58 thanks for taking a look at it! 2013-05-16 10:11:32 Hello... trying to recompile the kernel... I download aports, navigate to /aports/main/linux-grsec, abuild checksum, abuild unpack, abuild installdeps, then make config, then change what I want to change, then run make, then make install. When do I run abuild -r? 2013-05-16 10:12:33 ...or do I? I would assume I need to in order to make a new .apk so I can run apk add "newlinux.apk" 2013-05-16 11:06:26 Dave1029: I'd cp src/build/.config kernelconfig.x86; abuild checksum; abuild -r 2013-05-16 11:19:01 ncopa: thanks... 2013-05-16 11:19:50 Wouldyou copy /src/build/.config after you make config? 2013-05-16 11:19:57 yes 2013-05-16 11:20:08 That is what I assumed. s 2013-05-16 11:20:10 s 2013-05-16 11:20:13 i did a helper func too 2013-05-16 11:20:15 abuild menuconfig 2013-05-16 11:20:24 Sorry for the silly question. 2013-05-16 11:20:40 i think it will open the config menu, and then copy the .config to kernelconfig.x86 2013-05-16 11:20:41 Great. abuild menuconfig will be easier. Thanks. 2013-05-16 11:20:53 Excellent. 2013-05-16 11:21:06 run git diff afterwards to verify the changes you did 2013-05-16 11:21:17 Will do. 2013-05-16 11:21:43 i would also be interested to know those changes is something we might want on the default kernel 2013-05-16 11:22:15 Yes, I will let you know my thoughts once I have tested and can repeat what I do. I 2013-05-16 11:22:58 I have a 4 headed video card that I use and with DRM_RADEON enabled, SDL full screen runs and feels GREAT! 2013-05-16 11:23:28 I have to prove repeatability of my steps. I'll keep everyone up to date. 2013-05-16 11:24:07 The only prob I have right now is that I can't stretch the 4 heads to a single wide head so that I can peg 4 SDL's/Xen VM's, one to each head. 2013-05-16 11:24:22 Right now I have 4 cloned screens. 2013-05-16 11:25:16 I think I may have to load the proprietary ATI driver. Can't seem to get that to install. I think it is a busybox/ATI thing. I get a du, invalid option error 2013-05-16 11:25:31 Dave1029: you can install the "normal" du 2013-05-16 11:26:55 alpine will not work with the proprietary ATI driver... 2013-05-16 11:27:01 it requires glibc... 2013-05-16 11:34:47 OK, thanks... I suppose there is a way to manually set up xorg for the multiple screens. That is probably better than loading a bunch of stuff 2013-05-16 12:23:07 I abuild menuconfig, and changed the settings I wanted, then git diff to verify, then abuild checksum and abuild -r. 2013-05-16 12:23:32 abuild -r fails with /usrs/bin/abuild: line 1: arithmetic syntax error 2013-05-16 12:23:47 after trying to run scripts/kconfig/conf --silentoldconfig Kconfig 2013-05-16 12:24:29 It patches a bunch of files and then starts hiccuping. Is there a log file I should look at? 2013-05-16 12:25:39 There appears to be unmet dependencies for MEDIA SUPPORT && MEDIA TUNER. 2013-05-16 12:35:15 hm 2013-05-16 12:35:16 i dunno 2013-05-16 12:41:35 OK... thanks... I'll keep plugging. 2013-05-16 14:36:22 hi 2013-05-16 14:37:14 hi 2013-05-16 14:38:45 is there something to keep in mind if i try to update an existing installation to current 2.6? 2013-05-16 14:39:13 do apk version first 2013-05-16 14:39:18 like on http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Upgrading_Alpine 2013-05-16 14:39:20 check wpath packages that are getting updated 2013-05-16 14:39:31 what do you upgrade from? 2013-05-16 14:39:33 2.5? 2013-05-16 14:39:36 2.4 2013-05-16 14:39:47 hm 2013-05-16 14:39:56 we added so: deps to 2.5 2013-05-16 14:40:04 i think it should work though 2013-05-16 14:40:22 so two steps? first upgrade to 2.5 and then to 2.6? 2013-05-16 14:40:25 if you have db's postgresql you might need dump/restore 2013-05-16 14:40:32 i think it should just work 2013-05-16 14:40:54 i would recommend apk add apk-tools-static busybox-static 2013-05-16 14:40:56 first 2013-05-16 14:41:00 no db's there, so this should not be a problem 2013-05-16 14:41:13 i c 2013-05-16 14:41:19 i havent tested the upgrade from v2.4 but i think it should just work 2013-05-16 14:41:36 ok, i will let you know :) 2013-05-16 14:41:43 if you have those static you can always get things fixed 2013-05-16 14:44:03 oh nice rc5 is out. 2013-05-16 14:49:12 i didnt reach to do 2.6.0 sharp today :-/ 2013-05-16 14:49:23 but we are almost there... 2013-05-16 14:49:58 http://bugs.alpinelinux.org/projects/alpine/issues?fixed_version_id=52&set_filter=1&status_id=o 2013-05-16 14:52:58 the alix issue have been reported upstream 2013-05-16 14:53:08 so then its only writein ght release notes thats left... 2013-05-16 16:21:52 ncopa: nice 2013-05-16 16:23:45 ncopa: we stumbled onto alpine just last week, and now I'm smacking myself on the head for missing it somehow until now - because it's pretty close to exactly what I was looking for. 2013-05-16 16:24:19 ncopa: I'm coming up to speed on the build tools now - will be happy to contribute and pitch in on testing etc soon. 2013-05-16 20:49:15 hm, the update from 2.4 to 2.6 has a problem :-( 2013-05-16 20:49:55 i've switched the repos to 2.6 and installed 2013-05-16 20:49:56 apk add apk-tools-static busybox-static 2013-05-16 20:49:59 as ncopa said 2013-05-16 20:50:10 apk update works as expected 2013-05-16 20:50:18 but then 2013-05-16 20:50:23 apk upgrade --available 2013-05-16 20:50:38 stops with the following error: 2013-05-16 20:51:53 http://pastebin.com/Nan03Dib 2013-05-16 20:53:32 http://pastebin.com/Nan03Dib 2013-05-16 21:02:23 ok, need some sleep... 2013-05-16 23:31:50 Hello 2013-05-16 23:32:16 could someone point me a direction to setup a site-to-site vpn 2013-05-16 23:32:35 with ipsec or openvpn 2013-05-16 23:42:14 could someone point me a direction to setup a site-to-site vpn 2013-05-16 23:46:36 I guess this webirc has problem 2013-05-16 23:53:18 ok most annoying bug of the day, mount can't handle uppercase uuids 2013-05-16 23:53:34 DEAD-BEEF is considered something else than dead-beef 2013-05-16 23:53:48 funny 2013-05-16 23:54:37 at least with alpine the reboots are so quick it's only a few minutes to fix 2013-05-16 23:57:39 Guest90159: join #swan 2013-05-16 23:57:48 they should be able to help 2013-05-17 06:08:07 StarWarsFan|afk: its nfs i suppose that does that. hmm 2013-05-17 06:08:48 i suppose you could apk del nfs-utils; apk upgrade -U -a; apk add nfs-utils 2013-05-17 06:08:49 or 2013-05-17 06:09:00 apk add -U nfs-utils --force; apk upgrade -a 2013-05-17 06:09:25 if you have samba *and* nfs installed at same tim you will have problems 2013-05-17 08:04:33 good morning 2013-05-17 08:04:38 ncopa: thx, will try that 2013-05-17 08:06:59 StarWarsFan: please wait a sec 2013-05-17 08:07:03 i have something better for you 2013-05-17 08:07:21 i'm working on make apk upgrade -U -a just work 2013-05-17 08:08:51 too bad, already did it 2013-05-17 08:09:07 but the good thing: it worked :-) 2013-05-17 08:21:01 ok, np 2013-05-17 08:26:00 hm, another question: 2013-05-17 08:26:22 what's missing if i got this message after the upgrade: 2013-05-17 08:26:24 builder07:~# mount -a 2013-05-17 08:26:24 mount.nfs: No such device 2013-05-17 08:32:36 is it a nfs server or nfs client? 2013-05-17 08:32:45 client 2013-05-17 08:33:01 i added kerberos support to nfs 2013-05-17 08:33:05 i suppose thats the reason 2013-05-17 08:33:30 StarWarsFan: what does dmesg say? 2013-05-17 08:33:34 or /var/log/messages? 2013-05-17 08:34:42 for what should i look in dmesg? 2013-05-17 08:35:31 in /var/log/messages nothing happens if i issue mount -a 2013-05-17 08:36:32 for error messages 2013-05-17 08:36:33 hm 2013-05-17 08:36:39 can you ping the nfs host? 2013-05-17 08:36:41 i suppose you can 2013-05-17 08:37:06 yes 2013-05-17 08:37:56 is the server an alpine linux too? 2013-05-17 08:38:02 no 2013-05-17 08:38:12 http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/network-internet/413094-help-nfs-mounting-fails-mount-nfs-no-such-device.html 2013-05-17 08:38:25 check that nfs is loaded on server (i suppose it is...) 2013-05-17 08:38:45 i have 6 connected clients 2013-05-17 08:38:49 one of them is alpine 2.4 2013-05-17 08:39:11 and the new one should be the 2.4-2.6-upgraded one 2013-05-17 08:39:39 but that's not working at the moment 2013-05-17 08:40:13 so with 2.4 it is working 2013-05-17 08:40:25 but on the upgraded one it isn't 2013-05-17 08:40:54 can you lsmod and check if nfs is loaded? 2013-05-17 08:40:57 the kernel module 2013-05-17 08:41:06 did you reboot it after the apk ugprade ? 2013-05-17 08:41:13 yes 2013-05-17 08:41:28 hm, the module is not loaded 2013-05-17 08:41:52 i think mount is supposed to autoload it 2013-05-17 08:42:21 but it will refuse to autoload if the kernel does not match (ege you did apk upgrade and got updated kernel) 2013-05-17 08:42:27 the working one (2.4): http://pastebin.com/aRPPXCKB 2013-05-17 08:42:59 the not working one (2.6): http://pastebin.com/aYZkjj4b 2013-05-17 08:43:23 and you also do: uname -a; apk version linux-grsec 2013-05-17 08:43:41 just to verify 2013-05-17 08:44:09 Linux builder07 3.4.34-grsec #1-Alpine SMP Fri Mar 1 12:15:32 UTC 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux 2013-05-17 08:44:15 Installed: Available: 2013-05-17 08:44:15 linux-grsec-3.9.2-r1 = 3.9.2-r1 2013-05-17 08:45:39 its running 3.4. kernel 2013-05-17 08:45:43 you need reboot it 2013-05-17 08:46:02 again? 2013-05-17 08:46:11 seems so 2013-05-17 08:46:19 looks like it is still running the 3.4.34 kernel 2013-05-17 08:46:36 do you boot it from usb? 2013-05-17 08:46:42 does it run from tmpfs? 2013-05-17 08:46:46 or from disk? 2013-05-17 08:47:54 awk '$2 == "/" {print}' /proc/mounts 2013-05-17 08:48:24 builder07:~# awk '$2 == "/" {print}' /proc/mounts 2013-05-17 08:48:24 rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0 2013-05-17 08:48:24 /dev/xvda / ext4 rw,relatime,data=ordered 0 0 2013-05-17 08:48:40 root is a disk 2013-05-17 08:48:49 a reboot should fix it 2013-05-17 08:48:59 of builder07 2013-05-17 08:49:10 ok, will do right now 2013-05-17 08:52:50 no change :-( 2013-05-17 08:53:21 it's running on xen 2013-05-17 08:53:36 as a domU 2013-05-17 08:53:43 so might be the problem there? 2013-05-17 08:53:51 or in relation with it? 2013-05-17 08:54:03 did you hardcode the kernel in the domU config file? 2013-05-17 08:54:34 uh, have to ask this other guys... 2013-05-17 08:54:37 just a second... 2013-05-17 08:55:18 [10:54:03] did you hardcode the kernel in the domU config file? 2013-05-17 08:55:31 ahh, wrong channel... 2013-05-17 09:00:43 StarWarsFan: uname still says 3.4? 2013-05-17 09:00:58 maybe kernel did not get properly installed 2013-05-17 09:01:01 yes 2013-05-17 09:01:09 apk fix --reinstall linux-grsec 2013-05-17 09:01:25 check that /boot has the 3.9 kernel 2013-05-17 09:01:31 and that it is actually booted 2013-05-17 09:01:40 i think you have remains of 3.4 kernel in /boot 2013-05-17 09:01:48 trying... 2013-05-17 09:02:00 and when rebooting, i t will boot the 3.4 kernel 2013-05-17 09:02:27 oh unless you specify the kernel from xen config 2013-05-17 09:02:49 as darkfaded suggested... ;-) 2013-05-17 09:03:15 ok, reinstalled kernel an rebooting now... 2013-05-17 09:10:21 verify that you are actually booting the 3.9 kernel 2013-05-17 09:10:42 sure but this must be changed by another guy 2013-05-17 09:10:54 have no access to the dom0 at the moment... 2013-05-17 09:11:08 no, the domU 2013-05-17 09:11:25 yes, meant that... 2013-05-17 09:11:32 mea culpa... x-) 2013-05-17 09:12:03 ok so the kernel might be hardcoded for you 2013-05-17 09:12:28 i think you can use py-grub to boot it 2013-05-17 09:12:36 unles the xen box is old 2013-05-17 09:13:07 ncopa: old being anything but bleeding edge releases 2013-05-17 09:13:27 any production xen box that isn't alpine won't be able to do the syslinux trick yet i think 2013-05-17 09:13:43 it's only been, idk, a year or so 2013-05-17 09:15:56 ok 2013-05-17 09:18:16 ok, will take some minutes... 2013-05-17 09:18:24 but it's a good reason for them to switch the host to alpine 2013-05-17 09:18:34 *g* 2013-05-17 09:18:42 :) 2013-05-17 09:53:12 darkfaded: oh, there's been plenty of good reasons for that this week ;) 2013-05-17 09:53:39 lol :) 2013-05-17 09:54:22 i got trapped in the hardcoded kernel thing too last night, and i couldn't help smiling at how fast you can solve issues in alpine 2013-05-17 09:54:31 just because there's so little crap in the way 2013-05-17 09:54:59 ncopa: darkfaded: rock'n'roll! 2013-05-17 09:55:01 builder07:~# uname -a 2013-05-17 09:55:01 Linux builder07 3.9.2-1-grsec #2-Alpine SMP Wed May 15 18:04:00 UTC 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux 2013-05-17 09:55:02 or updating 2.5->2.6 in one minute or less :) 2013-05-17 09:55:02 :-) 2013-05-17 09:55:36 :) 2013-05-17 09:55:44 im happy you guys are happy :) 2013-05-17 09:56:12 ncopa: are you also? with 2.6 out of the door now 2013-05-17 09:56:28 i just nailed the last i think 2013-05-17 09:56:33 nice 2013-05-17 09:56:38 (eveyone is the last, isnt it?) 2013-05-17 09:56:44 hehe 2013-05-17 09:56:45 hah 2013-05-17 09:56:51 CVE-2013-2053 2013-05-17 09:57:02 i'd hate to ship a release with known sec issues 2013-05-17 09:57:05 oh the cool old txt records 2013-05-17 09:57:13 yup 2013-05-17 09:57:15 today I'm working on a new rsyslog package, and after that seeing about packaging mongodb 2013-05-17 09:57:22 ncopa: i think you totally owned every distro with the nginx patch 2013-05-17 09:57:35 ok? 2013-05-17 09:57:38 i updated like 1 hour after reading about it and the fix was in alpine already 2013-05-17 09:57:43 that was so quick 2013-05-17 09:57:44 ha 2013-05-17 09:57:51 that was lucky i think :) 2013-05-17 09:57:57 maybe :) 2013-05-17 09:58:05 i just happened to do sec fix when it popped in 2013-05-17 09:58:07 that reminds mee I need to see if my admin patched our centos boxes 2013-05-17 09:58:14 or if I can still annoy him today by rooting his machines 2013-05-17 09:58:21 it was kocka who was quick to report it 2013-05-17 09:58:22 update for that took 1.04s (but it took me a day to realize i'd need to restart nginx, still) 2013-05-17 09:58:52 taotetek: maybe he also has a twolayered security concept 2013-05-17 09:59:04 patch, and if that doesn't help, send the police to abuser's home :) 2013-05-17 09:59:13 darkfaded: haha. 2013-05-17 09:59:43 well.. I have root on all the boxes myself, but it's more fun using the privilege exploit than sudo. 2013-05-17 09:59:53 lol 2013-05-17 09:59:59 lol 2013-05-17 10:00:07 rotfl 2013-05-17 10:00:55 before sharp release i'd like to test: 1) setup-bootable 2013-05-17 10:01:07 2) alpine-xen, and 2 domains 2013-05-17 10:01:24 i'm going for lunch now 2013-05-17 10:01:36 enjoy 2013-05-17 10:01:53 going to fix a cup of coffee and see if I'm still having the issue I was having earlier in the week with the redis package 2013-05-17 10:02:20 enjoy your meal 2013-05-17 10:15:11 hm 2013-05-17 10:15:28 wonder how much of a pain it would be to hack abuild to support pulling source from a git repo. 2013-05-17 10:17:28 taotetek: maybe we could also just set up a git repo that contains a full build chroot 2013-05-17 10:17:37 git clone and you have your build env 2013-05-17 10:17:48 that would be more "rounded" 2013-05-17 10:28:57 darkfaded: hmmmmm 2013-05-17 10:30:07 darkfaded: interesting idea 2013-05-17 10:39:41 darkfaded: for now my goal is to allow building some in house code without having to tarball it and stick it on an http server 2013-05-17 10:41:41 oh, so you just meant the "source" for a given package 2013-05-17 10:41:50 aha! yes, not all of alpine itself. 2013-05-17 10:42:57 i'll still think aobut it for a while maybe i can do that to make the world a little better 2013-05-17 10:43:38 darkfaded: I can hack around it a bit like I do with makepkg in archlinux but I'd like to move forward with less of a hack 2013-05-17 10:43:44 so thinking about it some today 2013-05-17 10:44:30 you're right using plain files should be supported 2013-05-17 10:45:04 but probably you can add it without resorting to a hack 2013-05-17 10:45:10 darkfaded: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/cz/czmq-git/PKGBUILD 2013-05-17 10:45:41 darkfaded: that's an example PKGBUILD (very similar to alpine package obviously) with a slightly hackish git checkout scripted into it. 2013-05-17 10:46:39 can't check it out now, irc goes rather unnoticed, surfing would be bad :) 2013-05-17 10:46:47 aaah ok 2013-05-17 10:46:51 but i can imagine it well enough :) 2013-05-17 10:47:20 well essentially, I don't set the source var, I set a _gitroot and _gitname var, then in the build() section do a git checkout if it hasn't been checked out, or a git pull if it has 2013-05-17 10:47:52 i'd say the best thing would be to specify an url 2013-05-17 10:47:56 right 2013-05-17 10:47:59 looking at abuild source 2013-05-17 10:48:00 so i.e. http:// or git:// 2013-05-17 10:48:09 doesn't look that hard to patch in a case for git:// 2013-05-17 10:49:22 I'll play with it today 2013-05-17 11:03:19 taotetek: abuild support git and svn repo's 2013-05-17 11:04:17 clandmeter: oh! well.. that would a) ruin my fun of adding support and b) make my life easier 2013-05-17 11:04:34 clandmeter: is there a good example of a APKBUILD using it? 2013-05-17 11:04:49 http://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/abuild/commit/?id=3ac1b1294ac5881215add450ea5f346d9d234023 2013-05-17 11:05:21 some of my abuilds use it. 2013-05-17 11:05:26 not sure which one 2013-05-17 11:05:37 excellent. thank you clandmeter 2013-05-17 11:05:49 just parse for $giturl 2013-05-17 11:06:19 wonderful 2013-05-17 11:11:09 yup... yajl package, linux-formware, couple of others 2013-05-17 11:12:41 actually, that also solves my old issue with flashcache i think 2013-05-17 11:14:32 or for check_mk too 2013-05-17 11:14:42 autotracking latest stable somehow 2013-05-17 13:39:46 hi! 2013-05-17 13:40:52 ncopa: can add ipvsadm package? is usefull to see ip_vs tables 2013-05-17 13:44:38 hi 2013-05-17 13:44:42 add to where? 2013-05-17 13:44:53 create an apkbuild? 2013-05-17 13:48:45 i'm about to "shoot the engineer (myself) and just ship the 2.6.0" 2013-05-17 13:52:22 Hello folks 2013-05-17 13:52:58 I would like to start use awall instead of shorewall 2013-05-17 13:53:17 but don't know how to implement multi ISP on it 2013-05-17 13:56:33 ncopa: ship it! ship iiit! ;) 2013-05-17 13:56:49 ncopa: are you down to just that one issue? 2013-05-17 13:57:09 taotetek: i'm polishing the xen pkg 2013-05-17 13:57:32 issue #1524 2013-05-17 13:58:45 nice, i had ran into that too, but didn't do anything :/ 2013-05-17 13:59:03 its kinda annoying 2013-05-17 13:59:09 it also needs iproute2 installed for the sucky vif scripts 2013-05-17 13:59:10 those 5lines perl costs us 46M 2013-05-17 13:59:13 lol 2013-05-17 13:59:23 iproute2 is pulled in 2013-05-17 13:59:25 ah ok :) 2013-05-17 14:00:05 ncopa: working on getting a custom rsyslog package done today (just for myself) 2013-05-17 14:00:13 ok 2013-05-17 14:00:20 it wont make it for 2.6.0 2013-05-17 14:00:27 there's a lot of bullshit in the netscripts, but it's also very hard to fully replace 2013-05-17 14:00:27 ncopa: oh, no worries, it's in my own repo 2013-05-17 14:00:36 and fixes aren't really enough 2013-05-17 14:00:52 ncopa: although if there's enough interest in rsyslog I'd be happy to contribute back a package for a build newer than the 6.x that's included 2013-05-17 14:00:57 for the next release or whatever 2013-05-17 14:01:05 taotetek: would be great 2013-05-17 14:03:51 ncopa: alright good deal. I'm traveling next week, then the week after I'll see about putting together a package for 7.2.x 2013-05-17 14:04:40 ncopa: I'm moving my dev machines to alpine, and I write plugins for rsyslog, so I need to do it anyway 2013-05-17 14:18:38 someone has a syntax samples for awall policies? 2013-05-17 14:31:20 \o/ 2013-05-17 14:33:06 i need to figure out something smart to say in releasenotes 2013-05-17 14:35:22 redmine history export and some ascii art 2013-05-17 14:36:23 alpine linux is in opennebulas marketplace 2013-05-17 14:38:03 WOAH 2013-05-17 14:38:09 how cool 2013-05-17 14:40:50 http://marketplace.c12g.com/appliance/51962bf28fb81d71dd000001 2013-05-17 14:41:12 they should upgrade to 2.65 2013-05-17 14:41:14 -5 2013-05-17 14:41:46 that will be hard 2013-05-17 14:42:02 i think most images are not constantly updated 2013-05-17 14:42:08 not as bad as i.e. spotcloud 2013-05-17 14:42:14 but thats still so cool 2013-05-17 14:42:58 hm 2013-05-17 14:43:02 openvswitch is working? 2013-05-17 14:43:04 i just hope i can soon switch my opennebula host back to xen / and pull in my prod xen box to opennebula 2013-05-17 14:43:07 idk :> 2013-05-17 14:43:26 still putting openvswitch off even though i would benefit a lot from it :) 2013-05-17 14:43:27 i mean is it a stable package by now? 2013-05-17 14:48:36 kocka: i have never tested it, i dunno 2013-05-17 14:48:43 i need help with release notes... 2013-05-17 14:48:49 what should i mention? 2013-05-17 14:49:28 it is the best distros best release ever :) 2013-05-17 14:49:35 yeah 2013-05-17 14:51:38 ncopa: "administratively" I think a list of packages that moved into stable, security issues solved and bugs fixed. Version bumps if they concern important packages. that would be the long list in most release notes 2013-05-17 14:52:13 we dont have too many new apps 2013-05-17 14:52:17 or if you saw something in 2.6 that you liked a lot, like awall improvements then you could write about that 2013-05-17 14:52:39 i'm looking for noteworthy pakcage updates 2013-05-17 14:52:42 like kamailio-4 2013-05-17 14:52:46 ncopa: i think it doesn't matter if there's many or not. if you read release notes, you just wanna know what you're getting into 2013-05-17 14:52:46 means config format changes 2013-05-17 14:52:56 yes 2013-05-17 14:53:09 ruby 2.0 2013-05-17 14:53:12 php 5.4 2013-05-17 14:53:19 ah 2013-05-17 14:53:26 nfs with kerberos support 2013-05-17 14:54:33 "Unlike other major distros, We did not ruin nfs in this release. Instead we added kerberization" 2013-05-17 14:54:46 (my suggestions aren't really helpful, ever) 2013-05-17 14:55:23 :) 2013-05-17 14:55:31 i dont want bash others... 2013-05-17 14:55:51 LXC! 2013-05-17 14:56:12 kernel version 2013-05-17 14:56:14 see, the big stuff always gets forgotten :) 2013-05-17 14:56:38 :) 2013-05-17 14:56:49 an dwhat about the firefox update? 2013-05-17 14:57:05 http://dpaste.org/RYfdQ/ 2013-05-17 14:57:09 not worth it 2013-05-17 14:57:32 squid-3.3 2013-05-17 14:57:35 i mean.. has it been updateds to 21.0? 2013-05-17 14:57:41 not yet 2013-05-17 15:00:17 http://dpaste.org/muUHc/ 2013-05-17 15:02:03 s/the various bugfixes/various bugfixes/ i think 2013-05-17 15:02:43 and for LXC, you could actually write what is there, is there a new command to build a container? etc. 2013-05-17 15:02:52 so, what options does it give you 2013-05-17 15:03:02 since you even use it you can probably answer that 2013-05-17 15:03:10 yeah but ... 2013-05-17 15:03:12 times up 2013-05-17 15:03:16 ok 2013-05-17 15:03:19 then just do it:) 2013-05-17 15:05:15 published 2013-05-17 15:05:19 have a nice weekend everyone 2013-05-17 15:14:50 ncopa: same! 2013-05-17 15:42:52 ncopa: sorry by delay; i think that apkbuild are removed at version 1.9.0 http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/1.9.0_package_changes_since_1.8.3 2013-05-17 16:36:15 ncopa: nice! 2013-05-19 13:14:04 ummm .. help! 2013-05-19 13:14:29 setup-xorg-base ... got mdev error 2013-05-19 13:18:55 my error, compleete comand "setup-xorg-base alpine-desktop xfce4" works :) 2013-05-20 12:47:24 freedomrun: So just setup-xorg-base doesn't work, but the complete command (as per the wiki) works? 2013-05-20 15:00:57 ncopa: kaniini: After updating to newest Linux kernel, I don't need to recompile kernel in enable DRM_RADEON. My ATI/radeon cards work just fine now 2013-05-20 15:03:13 Dave1029: hey ;) so now you have it all working?!!! 2013-05-20 15:04:00 dardfader: Thanks my friend. You said it would take a while :-) 2013-05-20 15:05:16 Dave1029: nice! 2013-05-20 15:05:18 congrats 2013-05-20 15:07:38 I have learned a lot. I love Alpine, and now have a PC that can (at least prototypically... I need to automate a bunch of stuff) run multiple Xen instances using PCI passthrough on a local machine (one seat per GPU), or multiple Xen instances using sdl on a local machine (if you want to use one head per seat - as opposed to one head per GPU) 2013-05-20 15:11:17 Dave1029: nice job 2013-05-20 15:11:41 The next journey of learning will be in using ACF to control the VM's/vdi's from a central "repository" via the web. Any suggestions? 2013-05-20 15:14:53 nu :) 2013-05-20 15:53:52 Dave1029: I'm the ACF expert, but I have no experience with Xen 2013-05-20 15:53:57 what is it you're looking to do? 2013-05-20 16:40:58 tdtrask: Thanks... Xen allows a virtual machine instance to run on top of/besides Alpine... 2013-05-20 16:42:02 When the "VM" is not running, it is stored as a .vdi file and can be transferred from one (dissimilar) PC to another, and then "started" and run. 2013-05-20 16:42:39 I could use .ssh/.scp to copy the file, but I heard ACF does that, and more. 2013-05-20 16:44:14 In my previous life, I added a webserver to the Linux component of this virtual machine environment. There would also be "master" webserver, upon which all of the .vdi's could be saved. 2013-05-20 16:46:36 The master webserver would run on a standalone machine and it could be used to "broadcast" (copy) .vdi's to groups of machines, it would be responsible for the hierarchy of the groups of machines, it could be used to turn on, or off groups of machines, and do other cool things to the groups, etc. Is that something that ACF could do? 2013-05-20 16:50:29 Well, ACF is software, and software can do anything ... 2013-05-20 16:50:31 but, no 2013-05-20 16:50:50 ACF is basically for management of a single box 2013-05-20 16:51:28 of course, it's a platform that can be extended 2013-05-20 16:54:26 you could set up your master webserver to interact with the ACF interface of the individual machines 2013-05-20 16:54:50 hello, alpiners 2013-05-20 16:59:28 OK... thanks... I'll read up on ACF. The master webserver would do just that. 2013-05-20 16:59:31 Thanks. 2013-05-20 20:15:06 ncopa: you around? still working on my mongodb package, got past the first issue I was having but looking for some potential advice on the next 2013-05-20 20:17:52 ncopa: actually.. I may have just found the issue. thanks anyway! 2013-05-20 20:20:01 what was the issue? 2013-05-20 20:21:17 kocka: the current roadblock is mongo includes a bunch of it's dependencies in it's own source as third party trees from what I see 2013-05-20 20:21:47 kocka: and the function void malloc_stats(FILE*) is declared in mongo/src/third_party/gperftools-2.0/src/libc_override_gcc_and_weak.h 2013-05-20 20:22:07 which is conflicting with the same function defined in /usr/include/malloc.h 2013-05-20 20:22:32 ohh 2013-05-20 20:22:35 I'm digging through the scons options to tell the build to use system libs intead of included libs in it's own source 2013-05-20 20:23:31 I second ago I thought --use-system-tcmalloc would do the trick, but then I get an error that it can't find tcmalloc (which I thought was included in gperf, which I do have installed) 2013-05-20 20:25:00 aaah I'm confusing gperf (included in alpine) and gperftools, I think. 2013-05-20 20:29:42 so yeah, the header in mongo 2013-05-20 20:29:45 void malloc_stats(void) __THROW ALIAS(tc_malloc_stats); 2013-05-20 20:29:54 aliases malloc_Stats to ts_malloc_stats 2013-05-20 20:30:16 is there perhaps a build security setting on alpine that by default does not allow that? 2013-05-20 20:35:20 kocka: well, I hacked my way around it.. I've more than likely caused some problems in doing so, but it at least lets me know where I need to start for fixing it more correctly. 2013-05-20 20:38:42 hmm, unfortunately i can't help you :( 2013-05-20 20:44:28 kocka: no worries 2013-05-20 20:44:45 this is a mess. I had bad enough feelings about mongo -before- I started looking at the codebase. 2013-05-21 19:27:51 hey guys 2013-05-21 19:28:46 is this the irc of the email programm alpine?? 2013-05-21 19:29:20 ah ok it is 2013-05-21 19:29:21 TauNeutrino: no, this is the linux distro called Alpine Linux 2013-05-21 19:29:26 oh damn 2013-05-21 19:29:59 but i think my problem is trivial enough that you can help me here it hink 2013-05-21 19:30:10 i think* 2013-05-21 19:31:17 if i want to the an email, i get: root@localhost not verified 2013-05-21 19:38:28 Hi everyone. Please tell me, what fonts is use on official website alpine distro > 2013-05-21 19:57:14 any extlinux config guru around> 2013-05-21 19:58:00 i have a backup server vm that is set up on an usb disk to be fully usable if the host fails 2013-05-21 19:58:11 problem is it works so well now the host boots off that disk 2013-05-21 19:58:28 i'd like to add an default entry that will boot off "the other usb disk" 2013-05-21 19:58:36 (slc usb stick) 2013-05-21 19:58:59 scientific linux cern? 2013-05-21 20:00:36 hehe no 2013-05-21 20:00:43 slc as in slc flash cells 2013-05-21 20:00:50 so it doesn't die on you after a while 2013-05-21 20:01:18 it's only relevant since both the external disk and the internal stick are usb devices 2013-05-22 13:47:13 http://pastebin.com/BRh6PGFc 2013-05-22 13:51:04 caheE: you need patch it 2013-05-22 13:51:09 use strerror instead or something 2013-05-22 13:51:58 hm 2013-05-22 13:51:59 maybe not 2013-05-22 13:52:12 the func is called safe_strerror() 2013-05-22 13:54:19 i found it 2013-05-22 13:54:22 https://github.com/fish-shell/fish-shell/blob/master/wutil.cpp#L347 2013-05-22 13:54:28 well that does not apply uclibc i think 2013-05-22 14:02:45 try something like this: https://github.com/fish-shell/fish-shell/pull/808/files 2013-05-22 14:03:55 ty 2013-05-22 14:03:58 i'll try it in a sec 2013-05-22 14:05:43 i am not 100% sure that using strerror is safe there 2013-05-22 14:06:07 but as i understand it is related glibc using gettext and gettext using malloc 2013-05-22 15:40:13 a lame question 2013-05-22 15:40:22 but how can i shut down the machine? 2013-05-22 15:40:32 kocka: poweroff 2013-05-22 15:40:34 like halt -p 2013-05-22 15:40:49 it's a busybox thing 2013-05-22 15:40:52 (but there is no -p option in busybox) 2013-05-22 15:40:58 and be warned, that is really fast 2013-05-22 15:40:59 ah thx 2013-05-22 15:41:26 i also have one system that didn't use to reboot / poweroff thanks to some acpi glitch 2013-05-22 15:41:35 i have (iirc) set acpi=ht there 2013-05-22 17:57:55 in which package can i find the libresolv? 2013-05-22 19:32:16 re 2013-05-22 19:32:39 what should i do if a program missing libresolv? 2013-05-22 20:34:41 kocka: are you building a package? 2013-05-22 20:35:27 uclibc does not provide libresolve afaik 2013-05-22 20:36:01 kocka: see https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/uclibc/Glibc_vs_uClibc_Differences.txt 2013-05-22 20:36:07 #7 2013-05-22 20:44:00 well yes 2013-05-22 20:44:03 building a package 2013-05-22 20:44:16 or just try to compile a program from source 2013-05-22 20:48:07 what are you trying to build? 2013-05-22 20:51:46 ceph 2013-05-22 20:52:08 ok 2013-05-22 20:52:35 our friends from dreamhost if i remember correctly 2013-05-22 20:54:47 u mean they are working on it? 2013-05-22 20:56:46 i remember reading dreamhost started the development of ceph few years ago. 2013-05-22 20:57:36 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceph_(storage) 2013-05-22 20:59:01 ah 2013-05-22 20:59:01 ok 2013-05-22 22:06:05 hi again kocka 2013-05-22 23:05:50 small question 2013-05-22 23:07:58 server time zone is utc while client is -4. I want to set server time as on client. Can massive "clock screw" kill system? 2013-05-23 06:44:10 morning 2013-05-23 06:44:18 kocka: no libresolv 2013-05-23 06:44:24 you'll have to patch around it 2013-05-23 06:44:54 or ask upstream to use c-ares or other dns library 2013-05-23 07:46:12 gm 2013-05-23 07:46:39 does comming to "edge" needs restarting before setting up dev env.? 2013-05-23 08:35:16 freedomrun: what do you mean with comming to edge? 2013-05-23 08:35:26 from stable -> edge? 2013-05-23 08:46:59 freedomrun: not really 2013-05-23 08:47:14 but youll not running the latest edge kernel 2013-05-23 08:50:53 thnx bbl gtg 2013-05-23 10:22:50 Good morning... Where would I preseed the answers to the questions in the Alpine installation? 2013-05-23 10:32:34 ...if I wanted to automate the installation? 2013-05-23 10:33:36 ask jbilyk about that 2013-05-23 10:35:58 TY... 2013-05-23 10:36:36 jbilyk: Where would I preseed the answers to the installation questions if I wanted to automate Alpine installation? 2013-05-23 10:51:04 Dave1029 autologin and init script that do setup-* ? 2013-05-23 10:51:53 http://neelesh-gurjar.livejournal.com/10872.html 2013-05-23 11:30:23 bga: My goal would be to have an installation ISO that would not require any user interaction. 2013-05-23 11:34:40 autologin eliminate need to enter "root" after boot, then you init script run that do full installation and reboot 2013-05-23 11:35:33 get all packages that you need, client can not have internet or dhcp 2013-05-23 11:35:34 Dave1029: you will have to hack the setup-script 2013-05-23 11:36:48 Dave1029: looks like the setup script allows auto answers 2013-05-23 12:23:45 Dave1029: i think we hacked setup-alpine at one point to accept an answer script 2013-05-23 12:23:50 can't remember current status of that though 2013-05-23 12:24:10 i lost time, and mass-rollouts using apkovls was simpler 2013-05-23 12:24:23 apkovl + a local.d script to provision specific-to-host features 2013-05-23 12:25:17 hmm.. haven't run into apkovl in my reading up on alpine yet - and that sounds like something I need to know about. 2013-05-23 12:25:59 taotetek: when running from ram, apkovl is a copy of changes in /etc after using lbu to save settings 2013-05-23 12:26:09 but it conveniently makes backups and provisioning a snap :) 2013-05-23 12:26:50 aha - that makes sense 2013-05-23 12:27:45 I'm looking at getting the salt packages in testing upgraded to salt 0.15.1 - and I think I could pretty simply use a combination of apkovl + salt to do some interesting things. 2013-05-23 12:40:47 TY 2013-05-23 12:40:55 ...everyone... 2013-05-23 14:01:36 what's the best way to determine what apk a file belongs to? I'm tracking down a problem with a salt 0.15.1 package I'm working on, where I'm missing libpam symbols 2013-05-23 14:04:39 taotetek: you can only check with installed packages. apk does not have a file index. 2013-05-23 14:04:51 in the repository 2013-05-23 14:05:32 clandmeter: I have the package with the .so I need installed, I believe - so I'm just trying to determine which package installed it. 2013-05-23 14:07:12 taotetek: apk info -W 2013-05-23 14:07:46 clandmeter: excellent, thank you 2013-05-23 14:07:50 yw 2013-05-23 14:08:06 aha! and there's my problem... libpam.so is owned by linux-pam-dev, and I'd assumed it would be owned by linux-pam 2013-05-23 14:08:45 that doesnt sound correct 2013-05-23 14:08:55 yeah, it seems odd to me - but that seems to be the case 2013-05-23 14:09:14 perhaps the APKBUILD for linux-pam has an error? 2013-05-23 14:09:48 im checking it 2013-05-23 14:09:55 the .so symlink belongs normally to the -dev pkg 2013-05-23 14:09:59 clandmeter: when I remove linux-pam-dev, it definitely removed the pam.so 2013-05-23 14:10:36 hmm... I might modify the package for my purposes - linux-pam-dev has a lot of other deps on other dev packages that I really don't need 2013-05-23 14:10:43 taotetek: do you have an exact error message? 2013-05-23 14:11:00 oh right the symlink. 2013-05-23 14:11:17 ncopa: I could reproduce it - the short of it is, salt (using a 0.15.1 package I made) fails to start do to missing symbol pam (from salt/auth/pam.py) 2013-05-23 14:12:00 if I install linux-pam-dev, which installs the pam.so lib, it will then start 2013-05-23 14:12:19 sounds like it is doing some ffi tricks 2013-05-23 14:12:40 I'll take a look at the module, but I agree 2013-05-23 14:13:00 scanelf -R -n pkg | grep pam 2013-05-23 14:13:15 check if something has NEEDED libpam 2013-05-23 14:14:12 ncopa: salt/auth/pam.py dynamically uses libpam by using ctypes 2013-05-23 14:14:16 ncopa: looking at the code now 2013-05-23 14:14:34 LIBPAM = CDLL(find_library('pam')) 2013-05-23 14:14:57 had similar issue with firefox 2013-05-23 14:15:04 wh olooked for libc.so 2013-05-23 14:15:31 the people who does those things does not seem to understand how elf is (supposed to) work 2013-05-23 14:15:38 in the code comments "implemented using ctypes, so no compilation is necessary" 2013-05-23 14:15:51 I could probably have a little mini rant about using a security library this way 2013-05-23 14:15:58 heh 2013-05-23 14:16:00 that too 2013-05-23 14:16:41 my first concern for today though is just to get it up and running to unblock some coworkers 2013-05-23 14:16:41 i think that find_library() function needs a fix 2013-05-23 14:17:17 it should look for libpam.so.* 2013-05-23 14:17:25 or 2013-05-23 14:17:34 libpam.so.[0-9]* 2013-05-23 14:17:44 ncopa: so - if I have libpam installed, but not libpam dev - I should have the pam libs, just not symlinked? 2013-05-23 14:17:50 let me see if that's what is happening 2013-05-23 14:18:04 yes 2013-05-23 14:18:07 that should work 2013-05-23 14:19:27 hrm. how would I list the files in the linux-pam package. forgive my newness to alpine. 2013-05-23 14:19:39 apk info -L linux-pam 2013-05-23 14:20:07 yup 2013-05-23 14:20:10 there's libpam.so.0 2013-05-23 14:20:27 and if its not installed: apk fetch --stdout linux-pam | tar -zt 2013-05-23 14:20:54 if you do: readelf -d /usr/lib/libpam.so.0 2013-05-23 14:20:57 ncopa: as a rude hack to get around this for the day - I could conceivably add a post install to my salt 0.15.1 package to symlink those libs 2013-05-23 14:21:05 as a stopgap 2013-05-23 14:21:08 while I think about this. 2013-05-23 14:21:21 or add linux-pam-dev as a dep 2013-05-23 14:21:30 yeah - that just pulls in a lot of other packages 2013-05-23 14:21:33 that I probably don't need 2013-05-23 14:21:49 so the problem is that ctypes.util.find_library(name) only looks for files ending in .so and .dylib 2013-05-23 14:22:00 so it gleefuly skips over libpam.so.0 2013-05-23 14:22:16 rude 2013-05-23 14:22:20 indeed 2013-05-23 14:22:42 the other thing I could do then 2013-05-23 14:22:51 is patch salt/auth/pam.py 2013-05-23 14:22:56 libpam.so.0 and libpam.so.1 does not need to be ABI compat 2013-05-23 14:22:57 to directly access the library from ctypes I bet. 2013-05-23 14:23:11 best would be to dynlink it 2013-05-23 14:23:12 and add that patch to my salt package 2013-05-23 14:23:26 but hum 2013-05-23 14:23:37 i think others, like debian and fedora should have same issue 2013-05-23 14:25:01 from a pragmatic perspective if you could get salt to load the wrong pam library and do something not nice, you'd be so deep in the system it doesn't much matter 2013-05-23 14:25:09 but from a theoretical perspective, I don't like this. 2013-05-23 14:25:10 hah. 2013-05-23 14:26:47 ncopa: I think what I'll do just for myself today is change my package to patch this pam module in salt. If I come up with a more correct and generally useful solution I'll certainly let you know and pass it back. 2013-05-23 14:28:17 ok 2013-05-23 14:28:35 can you strace it? 2013-05-23 14:28:48 can you check if it actually tries to open libpam.so.0? 2013-05-23 14:28:57 i wonder if this can be related: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/python.git/tree/python-2.7rc1-ctypes-noexecmem.patch 2013-05-23 14:29:12 ncopa: I can, but from what I see looking at the code, the find command is going to not find pam 2013-05-23 14:29:27 ok 2013-05-23 14:29:52 hmmm 2013-05-23 14:30:22 can I force a package to remove? I currently have linux-pam-dev as a dep of my salt package - want to yank it and break salt so I can strace it 2013-05-23 14:30:57 I can just nuke the symlinks by hand I suppose 2013-05-23 14:33:22 ugh 2013-05-23 14:33:52 ncopa: I don't see it attempting to use libpam.so.0 at all 2013-05-23 14:34:48 ncopa: I wrote a simple test case just trying to import the auth/pam.py python module and straced it 2013-05-23 14:34:54 ncopa: if you'd like I can stick it in a gist or mail it 2013-05-23 14:37:57 or sprunge it 2013-05-23 14:38:40 i wonder why it works on fedora and debian 2013-05-23 14:39:02 I wonder if libpam is symlinked by default 2013-05-23 14:39:07 let me fire up a fedora vm and take a look 2013-05-23 14:39:11 I can check my centos boxes as well 2013-05-23 14:40:09 http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/pam.git/tree/pam.spec#n384 2013-05-23 14:40:24 the symlink is in the -devel package 2013-05-23 14:40:35 interesting 2013-05-23 14:40:43 I'm not seeing the symlink on my centos box that has salt running on it. 2013-05-23 14:41:12 so i suspect they patches ctypes find_library to do the right thing 2013-05-23 14:42:04 ether that or the python sources does "#ifndef GNU_something /* try only .so */" 2013-05-23 14:42:28 taotetek: it would be great if you could create a minimal testcase 2013-05-23 14:42:35 and file a bug with it 2013-05-23 14:43:07 ncopa: sure - I can make a simple test case just trying to import the pam.py module from salt that will fail without the dev package installed 2013-05-23 14:43:36 registering on the bug tracker 2013-05-23 14:43:42 heck I can make a simpler case 2013-05-23 14:43:46 that just uses ctypes to try to find it 2013-05-23 14:43:50 little 5 liner or something, give me a bit. 2013-05-23 14:43:53 that would be great 2013-05-23 14:53:30 i think i found the relevant code 2013-05-23 14:55:36 taotetek: this is find_library: http://dpaste.org/gfAyE/ 2013-05-23 14:58:58 i htink the logic is broke for uclibc 2013-05-23 15:01:46 ncopa: so my original thought for a patch for the salt APKBUILD, to path salt/auth/pam.py to directly include the correct pam library might not be a bad idea sounds like - unless I want to patch ctypes in python 2013-05-23 15:03:45 i think we want patch ctypes in pythin 2013-05-23 15:03:48 its broke 2013-05-23 15:03:51 gotta go 2013-05-23 15:03:52 see you 2013-05-23 15:03:58 thanks for the info today 2013-05-23 15:04:01 catch you later! 2013-05-23 15:16:10 omfg 2013-05-23 15:16:31 i will spend the whole night with the xorg sec issue 2013-05-23 15:21:38 kocka: that doesn't sound fun. new one? 2013-05-23 15:31:29 not one 2013-05-23 15:31:43 a lot of library affected and there are so many cve numbers 2013-05-23 16:48:07 anyone use samba on their server? 2013-05-23 16:50:46 or other file server? 2013-05-23 17:21:45 freedomrun: my home fileserver has samba 2013-05-23 17:22:05 i think it's running on alpinelinux 2.6 2013-05-23 17:22:43 darkfader, do you use it just as a share or you maintain user security or combination of both? 2013-05-23 17:24:49 darkfader, I ask cuz I am trying to setup one but couldn`t find in wiki and I am not shure about the right way .. I mean it is not problem to make working config to me is more important where to put the share. Just in /srv/samba/ at root of server or in some chrooted protection 2013-05-23 17:27:39 i don't have very special security set up, so no chroot for the samba 2013-05-23 17:27:56 and user security is done with smbpasswd 2013-05-23 17:28:38 so can u tell me where is best to place samba folder? 2013-05-23 17:28:44 at user home? 2013-05-23 17:28:56 or universal /home/samba/ 2013-05-23 17:29:01 i have a few of them, i.e. /home /smbtmp /isos ... 2013-05-23 17:29:19 for users actually samba automatically exports the homedir 2013-05-23 17:29:53 so if i connect as user "chicken" it'll make an export of "/home/chicken" as \\server\chicken 2013-05-23 17:29:58 so directly in /home(not specific users home) then subfolder what u want 2013-05-23 17:30:12 I see 2013-05-23 17:30:22 look for, i think %u in the samba conf file 2013-05-23 17:30:33 i have used my old file and that was written in like 2006 or so 2013-05-23 17:30:40 aha got it 2013-05-23 17:30:41 so i don't know the setup details any more :) 2013-05-23 17:31:14 no problem I have done it so manny times that I don`t even have to look at what I am typing 2013-05-23 17:31:26 ah ok 2013-05-23 17:31:40 so why are you thinking so hard about the folder's location? 2013-05-23 17:31:58 and, normally i'd really have a dedicated filesystem for each share 2013-05-23 17:32:07 to get proper usage reporting for example 2013-05-23 17:32:15 it just was this question in my mind from the start: where is the best to put it .. but now I think it is like you just said in /home 2013-05-23 17:33:21 don`t know I wasn`t shure about security in case of just /srv/samba but for /home I know there isn`t jumping arround 2013-05-23 17:33:48 infact that server has an nginx also 2013-05-23 17:33:53 maybe cuz of that 2013-05-23 17:34:33 one example would be my /smbtmp pile, i am exporting it over nfs, via samba and some directories are also served from nginx 2013-05-23 17:35:11 over nfs? isn`t nfs similar to samba 2013-05-23 17:35:13 ah and this is the home share 2013-05-23 17:35:17 these are [homes] comment = Home Directories browseable = no writable = yes writable = yes create mode = 0600 directory mode = 0700 valid users = %S 2013-05-23 17:35:20 oh dang 2013-05-23 17:35:23 i'll pastebin it 2013-05-23 17:35:36 http://paste.ie/view/da6f1d72 2013-05-23 17:35:40 thnx 2013-05-23 17:35:53 well nfs is pretty same job as samba 2013-05-23 17:36:11 if i access from windows i'll use samba 2013-05-23 17:36:14 nice and clean 2013-05-23 17:36:25 and from anything else i'll stick with nfs 2013-05-23 17:36:43 never tried nfs only read about it 2013-05-23 17:37:00 infact we have windows only in virtual machines 2013-05-23 17:37:03 maybe directory mode = 0700 2013-05-23 17:37:14 is what you are interested in 2013-05-23 17:37:27 yea 2013-05-23 17:37:29 it ensures noone peeks into a directory someone else creates 2013-05-23 17:37:33 exactly 2013-05-23 17:37:52 and browsable no disallows anyone else to look at the share 2013-05-23 17:38:39 also that one who have access the share can not look out of it? 2013-05-23 17:38:54 that's never possible with samba 2013-05-23 17:39:03 I knew it 2013-05-23 17:39:12 if you share /bla/foo then you can only see whats in foo 2013-05-23 17:39:14 dang 2013-05-23 17:39:27 why is that bad? 2013-05-23 17:39:29 oh 2013-05-23 17:39:35 that is good ...sorry 2013-05-23 17:39:38 hehe 2013-05-23 17:39:42 I was too slow 2013-05-23 17:40:52 so can u correct me pls ... if I share /srv/samba with dir mode 0700, user can access it but that is about it? 2013-05-23 17:43:42 make a config and try 2013-05-23 17:44:13 dir mode 700 means if he creates a directory in that share only he can sue that directory 2013-05-23 17:45:04 thnx man 2013-05-23 19:52:41 why lspci | grep VGA doesn`t work?? am I missing some packages? 2013-05-23 19:53:58 yep sorry apk add pciutils solves the problem 2013-05-24 07:42:56 rer 2013-05-24 07:43:14 ncopa: how the hell did debian fixes libx11 issues? 2013-05-24 07:44:57 they backport the patches 2013-05-24 07:45:37 did they fix em? 2013-05-24 07:45:45 http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-xorg/lib/libx11.git 2013-05-24 07:45:48 looks like not there 2013-05-24 07:52:31 and guestt what 2013-05-24 07:52:42 i have just backported the libx11 fixes 2013-05-24 07:52:51 all the commit that had a CVE reference in it 2013-05-24 07:53:00 + 2 commits that was needed to avoid conflict 2013-05-24 07:53:31 i hoe it does nto break anything 2013-05-24 07:56:35 kocka: you deserve a beer for all those x11 issues 2013-05-24 07:56:45 great work! 2013-05-24 08:15:42 actually i missed one :/ 2013-05-24 08:19:37 but i got 3 free beer yesterday :P 2013-05-24 08:19:55 after the submit the issues :) 2013-05-24 08:20:00 -the 2013-05-24 08:27:49 well deserved 2013-05-24 08:28:14 too bad theh person who does the backporting of patches does not get any beers :-/ 2013-05-24 08:28:28 free* beers 2013-05-24 08:36:00 :( 2013-05-24 08:36:22 actually it was a gift for getting points on a wargame 2013-05-24 08:37:32 but i will definitely invite you if we met 2013-05-24 08:55:06 where did you find the fixes? 2013-05-24 08:56:46 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libXi/ 2013-05-24 08:56:48 and similar 2013-05-24 08:56:50 from git 2013-05-24 10:57:46 ah 2013-05-24 10:57:54 now there are the patches 2013-05-24 11:06:15 ACTION waves 2013-05-24 11:07:09 hoi taotetek 2013-05-24 11:08:03 heya kocka 2013-05-24 11:08:15 fixed my salt problem yesterday, today it's on to fixing my cpu frequency problem :) 2013-05-24 11:09:13 kocka: this is a fun one - I get a "fast TSC callibration failed" on boot, and /proc/cpuinfo reports my cpu frequency as 0.0000 :) 2013-05-24 11:10:12 kocka: it looks like forcing the clocksource on boot might fix it 2013-05-24 11:10:21 kocka: http://penguintengil.wordpress.com/2012/11/03/solving-error-0-000000-fast-tsc-calibration-failed-when-booting-in-fedora-16/ 2013-05-24 11:21:27 kocka: making a new iso with the append line added while my coffee brews 2013-05-24 11:44:05 taotetek: i also have that fast tcs calibration message 2013-05-24 11:45:00 ncopa: I got salt working yesterday, but then noticed everytime I run salt, it was doing a benchmark to determine cpu frequency 2013-05-24 11:45:14 ncopa: so then I noticed /proc/cpuinfo reports 0.0000 for cpu mhz 2013-05-24 11:45:36 ncopa: interestingly enough - I have two lenovo w520s. one is slightly newer than the other. I just booted alpine on the slightly older one, and I'm not having the problem 2013-05-24 11:45:48 ncopa: so I'm going to compare bios settings and versions between them next 2013-05-24 11:46:32 ncopa: I've had other issues with linux on these models of lenovo when I have vt-d extensions enabled 2013-05-24 11:46:38 brb making a bios change 2013-05-24 11:54:53 ncopa: so, this is interesting 2013-05-24 11:55:54 ncopa: the difference was in the one that worked, I had the cpu "security chip" set to "inactive" 2013-05-24 11:56:04 ncopa: and in the one that didn't work, I had it set in the bios to "disabled" 2013-05-24 11:56:52 ncopa: when I set it to "inactive", now, I no longer get the TSC calibration error, and /proc/cpuinfo correctly reports my cpu frequency. 2013-05-24 11:59:07 ncopa: now... if I boot alpine in -virtualbox- on the one that I "fixed" however, it still gets the error in vbox - although it no longer gets it booting directly. 2013-05-24 12:11:14 taotetek: how did you fix the slat issue? 2013-05-24 12:11:18 salt* 2013-05-24 12:11:25 python ctypes is broken 2013-05-24 12:15:19 ncopa: well - I'll say "I fixed the import of the pam module so that it no longer complains about missing symbols" - whether I'll have more problems next, I don't know 2013-05-24 12:17:01 ncopa: salt-master and salt-minion will start now, minion connects to master, I can approve it's key and things are running. that's as far as I've tested. 2013-05-24 12:18:43 ncopa: after that, I ran into this TSC problem 2013-05-24 12:20:28 python3 has also a broken find_library 2013-05-24 12:21:52 ncopa: I can at least execut test.ping from a salt master to it's minion 2013-05-24 12:21:54 here just sec 2013-05-24 12:22:56 ncopa: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5643132 2013-05-24 12:23:10 that will of course break if the libpam version changes 2013-05-24 12:23:15 heh yes 2013-05-24 12:24:17 ncopa: but at the moment, I'm just seeing if I can get the full stack I want up on alpine w/ uclibc - any issues like this that are problems that -can- be fixed, I'm happy to write a note for myself and fix in a better way later 2013-05-24 12:24:59 in this case I don't really like the whole "I'll just use the first thing that looks like libpam" behavior to begin with :/ 2013-05-24 12:26:05 but first I need to give up on doing dev in virtualbox and set up a linux partition on this laptop because the failure to set cpu frequency properly is causing me huge headaches 2013-05-24 13:14:11 ncopa: nice work 2013-05-24 15:12:28 can someone help? 2013-05-24 15:12:53 I am missing something and I don`t know what I am getting this error: (EE) Failed to load module "modesetting" (module does not exist, 0) 2013-05-24 15:22:44 i guess because its missing modesetting module? 2013-05-24 15:23:16 yeah but in what package it is? 2013-05-24 15:23:47 there is no pacakge for it i guess 2013-05-24 15:24:08 else it would have been called xf86-video-modesetting 2013-05-24 15:24:52 apk add xf86-video-modesetting 2013-05-24 15:24:52 ERROR: 1 unsatisfiable dependencies: 2013-05-24 15:24:52 world: xf86-video-modesetting 2013-05-24 15:24:57 :( 2013-05-24 15:25:07 i remember some talk about it before 2013-05-24 15:25:44 so no hope I guess 2013-05-24 15:26:46 clandmeter, do you remember about what was talk ... (anyway thnx man) 2013-05-24 15:27:26 i checked backlog 2013-05-24 15:27:29 not much in it 2013-05-24 15:27:44 only see other people have this issue 2013-05-24 15:27:54 i can package it for you if you like 2013-05-24 15:28:01 wow 2013-05-24 15:28:08 i dont really know what it does, except the guess from its name. 2013-05-24 15:28:43 well modesetting is infact kernel feature but that package could be xorg-connection to it 2013-05-24 15:29:04 kms i think 2013-05-24 15:29:12 :) 2013-05-24 15:29:23 wait I`ll check you`re right 2013-05-24 15:29:33 thnx .. checking.. 2013-05-24 15:29:38 kernel mode switching 2013-05-24 15:29:58 setting 2013-05-24 15:29:59 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_setting 2013-05-24 15:30:07 yep 2013-05-24 15:30:32 apk search kms 2013-05-24 15:30:32 libdrm-2.4.44-r0 2013-05-24 15:30:54 grr ... same error 2013-05-24 15:31:10 I had that one installed 2013-05-24 15:34:16 freedomrun: wait ill pacakge it 2013-05-24 15:34:46 thnx man clandmeter I owe u alot 2013-05-24 15:36:44 it`s that shitty sis onboard gfx but I need it for some gui there for people that work on that old machine which serve files also 2013-05-24 15:40:00 i dont think this will fix your issues though. 2013-05-24 15:41:09 freedomrun: what is actually not working? 2013-05-24 15:41:16 clandmeter, should I enable "edge" to download that? 2013-05-24 15:41:23 X 2013-05-24 15:41:29 X doesnt work? 2013-05-24 15:41:31 X is not working 2013-05-24 15:41:33 yep 2013-05-24 15:41:44 did you install udev? 2013-05-24 15:41:52 and let it run 2013-05-24 15:42:07 eh .. pls letme check I didn`t extra only if script pulled it in 2013-05-24 15:42:40 shit apk add udev showed progressbar 2013-05-24 15:43:09 should I manually add it to openrc before reboot? 2013-05-24 15:43:35 clandmeter, ^ 2013-05-24 15:43:57 :) 2013-05-24 15:44:15 rc-update add udev sysinit 2013-05-24 15:44:22 thnx 2013-05-24 15:44:29 rc-update add udev-postmount 2013-05-24 15:44:33 i think! 2013-05-24 15:44:43 from my head with 2 glasses of wine 2013-05-24 15:44:49 :) 2013-05-24 15:44:54 wine is good 2013-05-24 15:45:09 red or white? 2013-05-24 15:45:30 white 2013-05-24 15:46:01 Chardonnay 2013-05-24 15:46:08 :) 2013-05-24 15:46:23 australia :) 2013-05-24 15:46:39 you can use repo pinning 2013-05-24 15:46:57 else it will pull in all pkg's of that particular repo 2013-05-24 15:47:48 freedomrun: check http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux_package_management#Repository_pinning 2013-05-24 15:47:52 umf I was good at repo pinning at debian but this is unknown still alot to me 2013-05-24 15:47:59 ok 2013-05-24 15:51:07 clandmeter, can u help me modify apk add stableapp newapp@edge bleedingapp@testing as this is new package without stableapp 2013-05-24 15:51:38 sorry? 2013-05-24 15:51:46 you need to add this repo to your repository file 2013-05-24 15:52:08 #/media/cdrom/apks 2013-05-24 15:52:08 http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v2.6/main 2013-05-24 15:52:08 #http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v2.6/testing 2013-05-24 15:52:08 @edge http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/main 2013-05-24 15:52:08 @testing http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/testing 2013-05-24 15:52:21 is this ok? 2013-05-24 15:52:25 sorry for paste 2013-05-24 15:52:33 sure 2013-05-24 15:52:37 if you like those names :) 2013-05-24 15:53:01 names? 2013-05-24 15:53:10 now you can add it by: pkgname@testing 2013-05-24 15:53:23 thnx :) 2013-05-24 15:54:13 wow it is in :) 2013-05-24 15:55:11 this pinning is way more logical than debian`s ... thnx clandmeter ... (gimme app@this repo) nice 2013-05-24 15:56:05 nice weekend! 2013-05-24 15:56:10 going? 2013-05-24 15:57:00 man you`re rigt it doesn`t help .. running all this over ssh I`ve got a bit more detailed error report from cli: /usr/bin/Xorg: symbol 'shadowSetup': can't resolve symbol in lib '/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so'. 2013-05-24 16:18:45 hiya clandmeter , freedomrun 2013-05-24 16:18:59 hi taotetek 2013-05-24 16:56:34 Hi, I am trying to compile http://ezix.org/project/wiki/HardwareLiSter#Download lshw for alpine linux, and keep getting "undefined reference to `libintl_gettext'" error. I have all the apks I could think of installed, but no luck. Anybody else had issues with gettext libs? 2013-05-24 21:33:46 hi there. I'm looking for a way to export thunderbird's filters and import them in alpine. Any hint? 2013-05-26 00:17:59 magic distro 2013-05-26 00:18:09 chroot does not chroot 2013-05-26 00:18:32 or rsync chroot back 2013-05-26 00:18:46 w/ grsec(!) 2013-05-26 00:19:01 hi 2013-05-26 00:19:11 what problem are you having 2013-05-26 00:19:12 again 2013-05-26 00:19:55 anyway 2013-05-26 00:20:07 30001 stream tcp nowait root /home/rsync/rsync /usr/sbin/chroot /home/rsync /rsync --daemon --config=/rsync.conf 2013-05-26 00:20:24 on inetd ? 2013-05-26 00:20:24 thats from inetd.conf 2013-05-26 00:20:53 there's some sysctls 2013-05-26 00:20:59 also dmesg 2013-05-26 00:21:06 m 2013-05-26 00:22:01 btw i still dont what is better, having const running rsync or lazy runned by inetd 2013-05-26 00:22:11 for 256mb ram 2013-05-26 00:22:19 shouldnt matter either way 2013-05-26 00:22:22 i'd just run it 2013-05-26 00:22:25 rsync is like 1mb rss lol 2013-05-26 00:22:32 inetd has overhead 2013-05-26 00:22:49 for redirecting stuff 2013-05-26 00:23:00 socket -> stdin 2013-05-26 00:59:40 kaniini btw. http://vpaste.net/ZbXQy 2013-05-26 01:00:02 some duplicates in bottom 2013-05-26 01:00:14 i guess thats bug 2013-05-26 01:00:19 2.4.10 2013-05-26 01:00:59 mount --bind 2013-05-26 01:05:15 thats minor bug, except i ask ro in remount 2013-05-26 01:05:44 umount reports thats "device busy" 2013-05-26 07:13:51 ?@:"""" 2013-05-26 07:15:45 @? ~@@@ 2013-05-26 07:18:59 6+++++++66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666.................................................................................................................. 2013-05-26 07:19:01 .............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................3 2013-05-26 09:40:00 hi 2013-05-26 09:40:25 Could I ask, why you use xen and not kvm? Just for my curiosity 2013-05-26 12:08:41 shafire: we have support for both 2013-05-26 13:23:20 clandmeter: I can not find the kvm tutorial 2013-05-26 13:23:30 and I don't know, which I should prefer 2013-05-27 15:11:27 there will be infra maintainance on NL location. this could create downtime for bugs/www/mirror/rsync between 18:00 and 20:00 hours CET. 2013-05-27 18:24:42 hi 2013-05-27 18:25:03 you should switch to x86_64.iso as standard! 2013-05-27 18:25:10 (on the website) 2013-05-27 19:20:29 trying to get my mouse to work in X 2013-05-27 19:22:17 xorg.conf says device is /dev/input/mice but there is no such file 2013-05-27 19:23:16 i tried creating it with mknod /dev/input/mice c 13 63, but the log file says "cannot open input device" 2013-05-27 19:36:37 jpohl, u have to install evdev 2013-05-27 19:37:34 bbl 2013-05-27 19:43:20 jpohl: is udev running? 2013-05-27 19:50:24 clandmeter: no, i want to use the old-style mouse driver 2013-05-27 20:07:29 jpohl: afaik xorg needs udev to run properly 2013-05-27 20:09:02 clandmeter: i think the xf86-input-mouse driver shouldn't need udev 2013-05-27 20:31:52 I can not burn the alpine mini x86_64 image 2013-05-27 20:49:36 Okay, it's not burnable... 2013-05-27 20:49:37 Why? 2013-05-27 20:57:13 shafire: do you get any error message? 2013-05-27 20:58:43 It is burning until 7% and then fails 2013-05-27 20:58:52 something with verification failed 2013-05-27 20:59:15 did you check the md5sum of the iso after downloading? 2013-05-27 20:59:22 with sha1, yes 2013-05-27 20:59:25 was correct 2013-05-27 21:02:32 oh, no, I can not burn alpine-2.6.0-x86_64 too :-( 2013-05-27 21:03:20 shafire: maybe your burner is failing? 2013-05-27 21:03:35 maybe, I will try with another burner and windows 2013-05-27 21:15:33 I think, the another burner worked 2013-05-27 21:33:24 Got the mouse working without udev :) had to add usbhid, hid_generic and mousedev to /etc/modules 2013-05-28 08:32:36 moin 2013-05-28 08:43:17 hi 2013-05-28 08:43:30 i created an issue for cgit 2013-05-28 09:00:41 thanks 2013-05-28 09:43:41 i'm waiting for a cve number in the pwgen thread 2013-05-28 12:10:46 ok I`ve registered in bug-reporting sys (It hink it is redmine) :) can someone tell me what is the compleete way of doing this: reporting Xorg issues in Alpine Linux ??? 2013-05-28 12:11:11 yep redmine :) nice 2013-05-28 12:30:45 freedomrun: its already done 2013-05-28 12:30:59 kocka, ?? 2013-05-28 12:31:23 kocka, what exactly? 2013-05-28 12:31:55 there is a closed project called security 2013-05-28 12:33:20 I've already reported the issues in http://www.x.org/wiki/Development/Security/Advisory-2013-05-23 2013-05-28 12:33:47 issues are getting public after they have been fixed and builded 2013-05-28 12:34:47 kocka this also: xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0x00000000,0x2000) (Operation not permitted) 2013-05-28 12:35:44 ah sorry 2013-05-28 12:36:02 I thought you wnat to reprot the security issues 2013-05-28 12:36:06 by the way 2013-05-28 12:36:16 could you check /var/log/messages ? 2013-05-28 12:38:15 ofc sec 2013-05-28 12:49:53 kocka, http://privatepaste.com/18bf5d2a73 2013-05-28 12:52:37 have you installed the alpine-desktop package? 2013-05-28 12:54:55 May 28 14:34:13 mhcserver kern.alert kernel: [87434.268242] grsec: From 192.168.1.101: denied access of range 0 -> 2000 in /dev/mem by /usr/bin/Xorg[X:1715] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0, parent /usr/bin/xinit[xinit:1714] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0 2013-05-28 12:55:05 grescurity bites you 2013-05-28 12:55:24 ncopa: i wondered exactly about this in the morning on the bus 2013-05-28 12:55:41 there is only one grsec kernel 2013-05-28 12:55:53 and would it be possible to build more profile? 2013-05-28 12:56:23 e.g. one for desktop purposes without kmem protection to be able to start x 2013-05-28 13:00:12 well not only kmem avoid running xorg, but i can't remember by heart 2013-05-28 13:00:26 maybe kernexec as weell 2013-05-28 13:05:53 freedomrun: http://forums.grsecurity.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2539 2013-05-28 13:06:07 i run X on my dekstop and laptop and it works 2013-05-28 13:06:13 i suppose it depends on the driver 2013-05-28 13:06:47 freedomrun: I'd like help from pax/grsecurity to resolve it 2013-05-28 13:07:23 kocka: kernexec is disabled currently 2013-05-28 13:07:29 due to xen 2013-05-28 13:07:48 maybe tehre could be another profile for xen :/ 2013-05-28 13:08:00 as for example I don't use xen 2013-05-28 13:08:16 but would like to have a system as secure as it can 2013-05-28 13:09:36 maintaining kernels is a huge job 2013-05-28 13:09:50 big job 2013-05-28 13:10:09 i would keep number of kernels down 2013-05-28 13:10:13 but that said 2013-05-28 13:10:25 what we currently have is 2013-05-28 13:10:32 i would rather fix kernexec to work with xen 2013-05-28 13:10:38 -grsec, the default 2013-05-28 13:10:45 than have a separate xen kernel 2013-05-28 13:10:58 -vanilla (no grsec, no patches) 2013-05-28 13:11:21 -vserver (slimmed down for vserver hosts) 2013-05-28 13:11:32 -virt-grsec, for virtual guests 2013-05-28 13:11:44 -grsec is needed for xen dom0 2013-05-28 13:11:54 can't say "stuff it into -virt-grsec" 2013-05-28 13:11:56 :p 2013-05-28 13:11:57 -virt-grsec is for xen guest? 2013-05-28 13:12:01 yes, domU 2013-05-28 13:12:01 or kvm guest as well? 2013-05-28 13:12:06 it will work with kvm too 2013-05-28 13:12:11 intended for all virt guests 2013-05-28 13:12:16 it will likely not work on real hardware 2013-05-28 13:12:25 (currently i'm using -grsec as kvm guest) 2013-05-28 13:12:29 a generic virtual guest 2013-05-28 13:12:49 and -grsec as guest on esxi as well 2013-05-28 13:13:12 -virt-grsec is not as well maintained 2013-05-28 13:13:32 but wha't I'd like to do in the long run 2013-05-28 13:14:09 remove paravirt (and anything that is vm guest related) from -grsec 2013-05-28 13:14:33 and let -virt-grsec be the vm kernel 2013-05-28 13:14:53 add a -nopae-grsec kernel 2013-05-28 13:15:01 for the lowest end 2013-05-28 13:15:04 alix boards 2013-05-28 13:15:05 etc 2013-05-28 13:15:15 lowmem 2013-05-28 13:15:50 disable anything that is for bigger iron only (10GB ethernet for example) 2013-05-28 13:16:13 and thats it 2013-05-28 13:17:43 kaniini: i'm not sure it is possible to fix xen + kernexec 2013-05-28 13:17:58 what does pipacs say about it 2013-05-28 13:19:31 i dont remember the details 2013-05-28 13:20:31 http://forums.grsecurity.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2822 2013-05-28 13:24:00 someone talked to him about it on irc some months ago 2013-05-28 13:24:41 i thought it was weeks ago.. :) 2013-05-28 13:24:57 time files 2013-05-28 13:25:15 i think the topic came up when i built 3.9 kernel or so 2013-05-28 13:26:51 freedomrun: could you please file an issue for your Xorg problem? 2013-05-28 13:26:57 on bugs.a.o 2013-05-28 14:18:05 ncopa: if you remove paravirt from -grsec it won't work as Dom0 2013-05-28 14:19:29 i think he means that domU's should always be the -virt-grsec flavor 2013-05-28 14:21:31 hm ok 2013-05-28 14:21:47 yeah thats the main point i think 2013-05-28 14:22:06 one kernel optimized for virtual guests (domU) and one for the iron 2013-05-28 14:27:57 ok, Dom0 needs the hardware drivers 2013-05-28 14:28:06 plus the paravirt interface 2013-05-28 14:44:24 domUs need pciback too if you wanna save people from gray hair 2013-05-28 14:44:33 or pulling of hair 2013-05-28 14:57:44 ncopa, ofc 2013-05-28 14:57:58 sorry got a busy day today 2013-05-28 14:58:52 np 2013-05-28 15:00:47 ncopa, you`re right it is on driver problem (sorry I had contract signing 2h so I have to scroll-back a bit) I`ve tested manny distros from live mode and even sucessfully generated xorg.conf file in cases uf puppy linux and mageia3 2013-05-28 15:02:00 but one small part is missing somewhare I`w got almous clear Xorg.0.log 2013-05-28 15:02:13 *almost 2013-05-28 15:04:35 gotta go 2013-05-28 15:26:41 I think kocka was right messages shows some permission issues 2013-05-28 15:27:19 well here is bug report: https://bugs.alpinelinux.org/issues/2023 if I missed something just say 2013-05-28 18:17:13 How do I use the script "setup-xen-dom0"? 2013-05-28 18:27:54 I installed "apk add xen", but there is no /boot/xen.gz? 2013-05-28 18:43:09 Is it broken? 2013-05-28 19:14:42 Is this old? http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Xen_Dom0 2013-05-28 19:14:55 apk add xen xen-hypervisor 2013-05-28 19:28:17 the whole documentation is too old :-( 2013-05-28 19:54:49 morning 2013-05-28 19:55:15 i was wondering how i'd get locales on my alpine? google didnt turn up anything useful 2013-05-28 20:11:40 fbettag: whats the default locale? 2013-05-28 20:11:46 I am new with alpine (too) 2013-05-28 20:13:10 shafire: it's UTF8 ;) so it doesnt really matter 2013-05-28 20:13:17 + it doesnt have "real" locales 2013-05-28 20:13:23 it just has UTF8 charset support 2013-05-28 20:13:59 i just build mosh for 2.5 (for our xen dom0s) and ran into a hardcoded issue where mosh wants an UTF8 locale 2013-05-28 20:14:01 that's enough for me :-p 2013-05-28 20:14:12 ah okay 2013-05-28 20:14:27 put in a patch to remove the hardcoded check 2013-05-28 20:14:29 works like a charm 2013-05-28 20:27:57 does alpine have packages for bcache or fastcache? 2013-05-28 21:05:29 how can I install the build tools with apk? 2013-05-28 21:05:37 whats the group name of the buildtools? 2013-05-28 21:06:43 apk add build-base 2013-05-28 21:08:24 thanks 2013-05-28 21:43:51 which kernel does alpine uses default? 2013-05-28 21:44:10 is it linux-grsec? 2013-05-28 21:49:48 shafire: you mean s/fastcache/flashcache? there's no package so far, i tried to make one for flashcache but they didn't have a stable branch back then, so i postponed it infinitely 2013-05-28 21:50:22 don't use bcache if you care about the data at all, literally noone uses it in prod 2013-05-28 21:50:36 maybe in 1 year it'll be ok to use 2013-05-28 21:50:52 flashcache isn't great but deployed on a few 10k boxes i guess 2013-05-28 21:50:55 okay, I will try flashcache 2013-05-28 21:51:05 facebook has 10k boxes :D 2013-05-28 21:51:15 hehe 2013-05-28 21:52:07 the thing is they use it with $5k ssds, and "our" kind of ssd is not what they built it for 2013-05-28 21:52:10 sometimes it shows 2013-05-28 21:52:20 but it's better than nothing for sure :) 2013-05-28 21:52:27 gl with the build 2013-05-28 21:52:35 yeah, thank you 2013-05-28 21:57:27 I don't know why, but I love alpine :-) 2013-05-28 22:13:49 yes, it's better than arch, :-) 2013-05-28 22:14:59 since we're in the "has anyone tried XYZ" direction - anyone tried pacemaker/corosync? 2013-05-28 22:15:16 since veritas cluster is quite out of the picture ;) 2013-05-28 22:15:26 i mean on alpine 2013-05-28 22:15:43 there's even a csync2 package which rocks for certain types of clusters 2013-05-28 22:31:31 eyo darkfader 2013-05-28 22:31:35 moin 2013-05-28 22:31:48 ich werds nich schaffen 2013-05-28 22:31:52 noes? 2013-05-28 22:31:53 zuviel zeug nach urlaub :s 2013-05-28 22:31:54 schafd 2013-05-28 22:31:56 lol 2013-05-28 22:32:09 wie war der urlaub so 2013-05-28 22:32:16 sehr cool 2013-05-28 22:32:19 finca auf mallorca rockt immer 2013-05-28 22:32:27 nächstes jahr echt guggen ob wir nich runterziehen 2013-05-28 22:32:53 darkfader: brauchste mosh fuer deine dom0? :s 2013-05-28 22:33:01 haben huebsche packages fuer 2.5 gemacht 2013-05-28 22:33:01 hrhr 2013-05-28 22:33:06 hehe 2013-05-28 22:33:09 ne eigentlich nich 2013-05-28 22:33:17 ich probier gerade mal kurz scheiss libivrt 2013-05-28 22:33:23 YIKES 2013-05-28 22:33:48 will gucken, ob sie 1jahr nach xen4.2 release endlich hinbekommen haben, dass das stueck mist wieder funktioniert 2013-05-28 22:52:08 ihr könnt ja alle deutsch :o 2013-05-28 22:55:23 ich habe flashcache jetzt gebaut, jetzt muss ich nur noch hinbekommen, dass es das beim booten lädt 2013-05-28 22:55:28 das bekomme ich aber irgendwie nicht hin 2013-05-28 22:58:42 back for a moment 2013-05-28 22:58:44 https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg22834.html 2013-05-28 22:58:59 so the author of the libxl fixes for libvirt 2013-05-28 22:59:06 doesnt effing use it AT ALL 2013-05-28 22:59:28 so horribly sick 2013-05-28 22:59:47 shafire: das devmapper target oder was laedt nicht? 2013-05-28 23:00:38 # make Makefile.dkms boot_conf 2013-05-28 23:01:37 das muss ich ausführen, aber der will die hooks in /etc/initramfs-tools/hooks installieren 2013-05-28 23:01:56 das gibts bei alpine nicht 2013-05-28 23:02:12 ach, das dmks ding 2013-05-28 23:02:14 hmmm 2013-05-28 23:02:16 ja 2013-05-28 23:03:13 frag mal morgen, die devs haben da sicher ne sinnvolle loesung zu 2013-05-28 23:03:45 im prinzip kannst es zum testen einfach ohne dkms gegen den aktuellen kernel bauen 2013-05-28 23:05:31 wie macht man das? :S 2013-05-28 23:06:16 guck mal auf der flashcache gitpups seite, da ist eine readme mit dkms und eine ohne 2013-05-28 23:06:27 okay 2013-05-28 23:06:41 muss jetzt nochmal ZZZZ nachdem ich mich gerade so aufgeregt hab 2013-05-28 23:06:43 hat alpine eigentlich ein forum? (finde keinen link dazu) 2013-05-29 07:49:02 hi 2013-05-29 09:09:41 hi 2013-05-29 09:10:20 hi all together 2013-05-29 10:09:32 could someone help me with xen? 2013-05-29 10:09:40 I can not start a pv guest... 2013-05-29 10:09:52 bind(unix:/var/run/xen/qmp-libxl-2): No such file or directory 2013-05-29 10:10:05 chardev: opening backend "socket" failed: No such file or directory 2013-05-29 10:16:37 did you boot into the xen kernel? (check /proc/xen) 2013-05-29 10:36:45 yes 2013-05-29 10:37:45 mkdir -p /var/run/xen <-- this need to be done every boot up... 2013-05-29 10:37:57 I am fighting with bridges at moment 2013-05-29 10:40:37 i'll show you my /etc/network/interfaces 2013-05-29 10:40:46 give me 20 mins, doing something critical atm 2013-05-29 10:44:25 okay, thank you 2013-05-29 10:50:45 http://paste.ie/view/64b4329e 2013-05-29 10:51:34 i don't fully understand all of what i've done there, but it works well 2013-05-29 11:07:14 thanks 2013-05-29 11:18:05 verwendest du xen 4.2 oder xen 4.1? 2013-05-29 11:28:17 4.2.0 2013-05-29 11:29:28 könntest du mir evt. deine xl start config schicken? 2013-05-29 11:29:42 ich bekomme alpinelinux nicht gestartet 2013-05-29 11:29:48 als pv guest 2013-05-29 11:34:14 32 oder 64bit? 2013-05-29 11:34:45 64bit 2013-05-29 11:50:19 ja kann ic haber fang bitte mal am anfang an 2013-05-29 11:50:22 grht xl dmesg 2013-05-29 11:50:27 "geht" 2013-05-29 11:51:04 ja 2013-05-29 11:51:13 xen_netback 2013-05-29 11:51:13 xen_blkback 2013-05-29 11:51:16 in /etc/modules? 2013-05-29 11:51:36 ja 2013-05-29 11:51:37 ok 2013-05-29 11:51:42 hello 2013-05-29 11:51:45 bridge ist "up"? 2013-05-29 11:51:47 hi 2013-05-29 11:51:54 xenbr0, ja 2013-05-29 11:52:05 config kommt gleich 2013-05-29 11:53:05 Quick question: Trying to install Alpine 2.6.0 rc6 x86_64, but after initial setup and reboot, my keyboard doesn't work so I can't login for the first time... checked bugtrack but nothing 2013-05-29 11:53:26 shafire: http://paste.ie/view/9b31bb14 2013-05-29 11:53:42 the commented stuff was for install 2013-05-29 11:53:52 ich möchte von der iso booten, der schafft das nur bis: Mouting boot media: ok. Installing packages to root filesystem: OK: 0 MiB in 0 packages ok. /sbin/init not found in new root. Launching emergency recovery shell. Type exit to continue boot. -> Der bootet von der iso, aber nicht erfolgreich.. :( 2013-05-29 11:53:52 but you might also try running pygrub on the iso 2013-05-29 11:55:16 arkon: usb? 2013-05-29 11:55:21 yep 2013-05-29 11:55:31 tried usb to ps2 converter but no joy 2013-05-29 11:55:42 but why rc6? 2013-05-29 11:55:55 it's the latest stable build apparently 2013-05-29 11:56:06 there is already a final 2013-05-29 11:56:20 sorry - looked like the rc6... was the stable main release the day after 2013-05-29 11:57:13 so you are using alpine 2.6.0 x86_64? 2013-05-29 11:57:14 have you tried another keyboard? 2013-05-29 11:57:36 tried three different keyboards 2013-05-29 11:57:39 darkfader: hast du mini versucht gehabt? 2013-05-29 11:57:54 yep - got the official 2.6.0 x86_64 main stable release ISO 2013-05-29 11:57:58 ne 2013-05-29 11:58:07 die normale version? 2013-05-29 11:58:09 jo 2013-05-29 11:58:13 yes norma 2013-05-29 11:58:15 l 2013-05-29 11:58:18 ;) 2013-05-29 11:58:27 dann versuche ich das mal, hatte nur mini und vserver 2013-05-29 11:58:39 arkon: sorry us two are on shafire's problem :) 2013-05-29 11:58:54 idk about your keyboard thing :( 2013-05-29 11:59:18 darkfader: no problem! sorry for confusing your thread 2013-05-29 11:59:34 you do? 2013-05-29 12:00:04 arkon: mh, does the keyboard work in bios? 2013-05-29 12:00:07 sorry shafire - my german is rusty - normale ist schelcht? 2013-05-29 12:00:14 schlecht 2013-05-29 12:00:21 yes works in bios 2013-05-29 12:00:32 arkon: legacy usb in bios activated? 2013-05-29 12:00:36 no... 2013-05-29 12:00:45 should i enable legacy? 2013-05-29 12:00:52 you could try 2013-05-29 12:01:16 will do! thx 2013-05-29 12:01:54 thing is though - it worked for me to type 'setup-alpine' on the initial install (but that was likely the live cd...) 2013-05-29 12:03:45 will reboot and report - thanks guys 2013-05-29 12:14:16 darkfader: bei vif = ['bridge=br0,ip=88.,mac=00:16:3e:'] 2013-05-29 12:14:21 hast du bei mac auch was weggemacht? 2013-05-29 12:14:43 klar 2013-05-29 12:15:00 musste auffuellen oder Du nimmst es raus, dann autogeneriert 2013-05-29 12:15:34 wo fängt das an? 2013-05-29 12:15:36 bei 00? 2013-05-29 12:17:24 na ist halt ne mac adresse 2013-05-29 12:17:36 00:00:00:00:00:00 darfst nicht nehmen das ist broadcast 2013-05-29 12:17:44 00:16:3e gehoert xensource inc. 2013-05-29 12:17:56 mach einfach meine mac= raus und dann tut es Dir eine generieren 2013-05-29 12:18:03 musst hinterher reinspeichern 2013-05-29 12:18:04 mit deiner config geht's nun 2013-05-29 12:18:22 vielleicht liegt es auch an der normalen iso 2013-05-29 12:18:34 komisch ist, dass es immer nur mit der normalen ging 2013-05-29 12:18:49 als ich gestern mit der mini xen installieren wollte, bin ich auch gescheitert 2013-05-29 12:18:56 mit der normalen ging das gestern auch 2013-05-29 12:22:06 wie fährt man eigentlich mit alpinelinux herunter? 2013-05-29 12:22:16 shutdown geht nicht und bei reboot gibt es die funktion nicht? 2013-05-29 12:22:23 poweroff 2013-05-29 12:22:27 oder halt 2013-05-29 12:22:33 das ist weil busybox 2013-05-29 12:22:35 nervt ein wenig 2013-05-29 12:23:23 ah ok 2013-05-29 12:30:52 Hi - tried legacy usb enabled in bios, but still no keyboard 2013-05-29 12:31:09 :-( 2013-05-29 12:31:26 is anyone aware of usb keyboard issues and alpine 2.6.0? 2013-05-29 12:56:06 you might need to add usbkbd to modules.conf 2013-05-29 12:59:44 Hattest du auch den Fehler hier: eth0 ...Error: this script should be called from udhcpc 2013-05-29 13:00:29 ja das ist irgendein bug 2013-05-29 13:00:35 ruf es mal von hand auf das geht 2013-05-29 13:00:50 apk add dhcpcd might help :) 2013-05-29 13:01:04 kaniini: it's in a default install for dhcp clients 2013-05-29 13:01:19 it should not appear, i just didn't ever figure out what happens that's why i couldn't file one 2013-05-29 13:02:53 darkfader: wie ruft man das per hand auf? 2013-05-29 13:03:09 methinks just udhcpc 2013-05-29 13:03:23 ah 2013-05-29 13:03:33 udhcpc eth0, iirc 2013-05-29 13:10:02 darkfader: was ist bond0 bei deinen bridge configs? 2013-05-29 13:19:08 lacp bundle aus eth0 und sonst nix iirc 2013-05-29 13:27:24 hi sorry was afk 2013-05-29 13:31:00 @kaniini: I'll try editing modules.conf - presumably will have to boot via a LiveCD to get in... 2013-05-29 14:44:26 darn x 2013-05-29 14:50:26 darkfader: ich muss wahrscheinlich für das bridging eine eigene init.d bauen 2013-05-29 14:50:45 wenn ich nämlich die befehle manuell ausführe, passt alles 2013-05-29 14:51:14 es kommen auch keine udhcpc fehler... 2013-05-29 14:51:23 sowohl in der dom0 als auch im domU 2013-05-29 14:52:13 also musste ned 2013-05-29 14:52:17 deswegen seltsam 2013-05-29 14:59:00 der führt bei mir das brctl addif br0 eth0 nie aus 2013-05-29 19:49:47 i broke something in my build chroot and i don't get whats up 2013-05-29 19:50:10 lets say i do abuild -R in testing/pacemaker 2013-05-29 19:50:16 (5/48) Installing openssl-doc (1.0.1c-r3) 2013-05-29 19:50:16 ERROR: http://dl-3.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v2.5/main/x86_64/openssl-doc-1.0.1c-r3.apk: No such file or directory 2013-05-29 19:50:38 the 2.5 confuses me quite a bit too 2013-05-29 19:50:47 i don't remember anything from setting it up :/ 2013-05-29 19:57:27 also got this one 2013-05-29 19:57:33 from abuild fetch 2013-05-29 19:57:34 curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404 Not Found 2013-05-29 19:57:44 so it seems the pacemaker port is just stale or something 2013-05-29 19:58:08 i need to do a lot more building again so i don't trip over everything 2013-05-29 20:29:11 darkfader, http://dl-3.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v2.5/main/x86_64/openssl-doc-1.0.1c-r3.apk is actually not on the server 2013-05-29 20:29:31 maybe `apk update` would help 2013-05-29 20:30:31 gtg 2013-05-29 21:20:39 n8@all 2013-05-30 05:26:54 Is there a version of alpine for the raspberry pi? 2013-05-30 05:42:16 Niichan, we don't have ARM port yet, but there's lot of interest and few people planning to work in it 2013-05-30 05:42:22 no published schedule yet, though 2013-05-30 05:42:42 Ah 2013-05-30 18:57:16 hello 2013-05-30 19:03:49 hi 2013-05-30 19:06:34 hi 2013-05-30 19:13:22 I'm trying to set up Xen according to http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Xen_Dom0. I perform "apk add xen" But /boot/xen.gz file doesn't exist. Also udev, udev-postmount, and xencommons don't seem to exist. (I did perform an "Install to disk") Can some one point me in the right direction? 2013-05-30 19:21:33 MisterC: just a shoot: 2013-05-30 19:21:36 try this: 2013-05-30 19:21:39 apk add xen xen-hypervisor 2013-05-30 19:27:33 yes 2013-05-30 19:27:50 MisterC: http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Xen_Dom0 <- I changed it 2013-05-30 19:28:08 MisterC: the last part is old 2013-05-30 19:28:19 I will rewrite it in the next days 2013-05-30 19:36:30 thank you!!!! :) 2013-05-30 19:38:19 MisterC: I think, apk add xen-hypervisor 2013-05-30 19:38:23 and everything should be set 2013-05-30 19:40:58 ok 2013-05-30 19:41:00 MisterC: be aware of the /var/run/xen bug... 2013-05-30 19:41:05 I created already an issue 2013-05-30 19:41:28 I'm not aware of the bug. 2013-05-30 19:42:00 After a restart, the dir /var/run/xen does not exists 2013-05-30 19:42:11 ok 2013-05-30 19:42:30 which should, or you can not start any xen guests anymore 2013-05-30 19:42:52 do I just recreate it? 2013-05-30 19:42:58 each time? 2013-05-30 19:46:18 yes 2013-05-30 19:46:43 ok. Thank shafire. You've been a great help!!! Am looking forward to the updates on the wiki page. 2013-05-31 01:17:31 Hey guys... any reason not to install systemd on Alpine? 2013-05-31 01:18:06 Also, I am having a tough time tar -zxvf filename.tar.xz. Any thoughts? 2013-05-31 01:21:40 gzip: invalid magic 2013-05-31 02:24:02 -z is for gzip 2013-05-31 02:24:18 Dave1029: I'm not sure what a tar.xz file is 2013-05-31 02:39:07 tar -xJf file.pkg.tar.xz 2013-05-31 02:39:22 Dave1029 ^ try that 2013-05-31 02:40:19 anyone in Philadelphia PA region? 2013-05-31 04:33:45 Moinmoin 2013-05-31 06:45:13 gm 2013-05-31 09:22:16 moin 2013-05-31 09:22:25 morning 2013-05-31 10:32:47 Thanks mp5shooter... I have no problem untaring the file on another distro. Once I did that, I copied it over to the target machine. I just thought it might be a busybox thing. 2013-05-31 10:33:21 mi2com: I live in Syracuse, NY. Sometimes about April, I wish I lived in Philly 2013-05-31 10:39:38 ACTION <-- located in switzerland 2013-05-31 12:33:55 Does alpine read the .profile file? 2013-05-31 12:48:14 depends on shell I assume 2013-05-31 12:48:40 ash 2013-05-31 12:50:38 hrm busybox is not too keen on documentation, according to some site on net it only does that on minix 2013-05-31 12:51:59 (btw if you want good minimalistic shell, I hear people recommending mksh) 2013-05-31 12:52:51 looking at http://git.busybox.net/busybox/tree/shell/ash.c it seems it should read .profile 2013-05-31 12:53:10 ah ok 2013-05-31 12:53:11 do you have HOME set? 2013-05-31 12:53:21 echo $HOME /root 2013-05-31 12:53:26 yes 2013-05-31 12:53:54 http://git.busybox.net/busybox/tree/shell/ash.c#n13224 2013-05-31 12:54:04 you can strace it to see what exactly it does 2013-05-31 12:54:30 note that profile is only read on login shells usually 2013-05-31 12:54:47 okay thank you 2013-05-31 12:55:19 run it with -l argument 2013-05-31 12:55:55 yeah, it worked 2013-05-31 12:55:59 what does -l do? 2013-05-31 21:11:03 hoi 2013-05-31 21:14:09 n8