2025-01-02 12:15:38 <vkrishn> ikke: mip
2025-01-02 12:16:20 <vkrishn> oops, ikke: mips64 servers don't push mqtt msgs ?
2025-01-02 12:18:14 <fossdd[m]> are there still mips64 servers?
2025-01-02 12:18:24 <fossdd[m]> didnt the EOLed long time ago?
2025-01-02 12:18:46 <vkrishn> they show in pkgs.a.o (drop down menu)
2025-01-02 12:22:05 <fossdd[m]> yes that is because older releases had mips releases (https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/infra/apkbrowser/-/issues/14)
2025-01-02 12:23:39 <vkrishn> thanks
2025-01-02 15:21:56 <ncopa> how do I increase the timeout for a specific CI job?
2025-01-04 14:45:49 <fossdd[m]> <omni> ddevault suggested emailing ~sircmpwn/sr.ht-support@lists.sr.ht with the source addresses of our arm builders, they may have been included in DDoS mitigations
2025-01-04 17:34:38 <omni> because confy upgrade being stuck on build-3-21-a*
2025-01-04 19:00:48 <tomalok> sorry, looks like i took dev.alpinelinux.org up to 100% on / -- doing some cleanup now
2025-01-04 19:03:29 <tomalok> back down to 73%
2025-01-04 20:49:53 <nu_> fossd[m]: is your comment is related to our previous investigation we did here? (v6 connection issues to git.sr.ht?)
2025-01-04 20:50:41 <vkrishn> if i just enable linode ip that connects when opening gitlab.a.o, it would be ok?
2025-01-04 20:52:08 <vkrishn> found another domain that also connects, "ctrls.in"
2025-01-04 20:53:48 <vkrishn> and [bc.]googleusercontent.com as usual
2025-01-04 21:11:37 <pj1> clandmeter: how's the situation with alpine matrix server?
2025-01-04 21:12:09 <clandmeter> im not sure, nu was working on it
2025-01-04 21:12:25 <clandmeter> there were some msgs here regarding it recently
2025-01-04 21:16:12 <vkrishn> nm, will disable them and see if it goes ok
2025-01-04 22:55:01 <nu_> matrix server: coming at latest feb 15
2025-01-04 22:58:43 <nu_> i need to load all the dendrite and postgres configs into my ram, and finish the automation
2025-01-04 22:59:05 <nu_> i could use some help with the former
2025-01-05 01:41:04 <panekj> do you need more ram?
2025-01-05 11:37:59 <nu_> always
2025-01-05 17:18:57 <clandmeter> its actually insane a messaging server needs that kind of hardware. i never hear these kind of issues on an ircd
2025-01-05 17:20:18 <nu_> >into my ram< i meant my brain:>
2025-01-05 17:21:28 <nu_> ping fossdd[m] about the arm builder ip block
2025-01-05 17:25:19 <nu_> ftr my dendrite uses 350Mi atm
2025-01-05 17:32:36 <pj> dendrite is better than synapse
2025-01-05 17:32:40 <pj> but also they improved synapse
2025-01-05 17:33:03 <pj> also I would not recommend using dendrite
2025-01-05 17:33:38 <pj> they dropped ball on it since they are not running it themselves but synapse and all development went back into synapse
2025-01-05 17:37:53 <nu_> have you got sources?
2025-01-05 17:44:29 <pj> "So the reason that Dendrite is stuck is that effort is going into Synapse instead; there’s not enough bandwidth to do both. The fact that third party homeservers don’t support migration seems orthogonal to whether Matrix 2.0 is actually usable right now - it sounds like you’re assuming you’d need to migrate from Synapse, which is not necessarily true."
2025-01-05 17:44:36 <pj> https://lobste.rs/s/obi5ar/matrix_2_0_is_here#c_2uzacs
2025-01-05 17:47:24 <pj> and "Synapse is also increasingly sprouting rust for the hot paths, fwiw. The effort which was going into Dendrite has ended up converging on improving Synapse for now."
2025-01-05 17:47:31 <pj> https://lobste.rs/s/obi5ar/matrix_2_0_is_here#c_3ivoi0
2025-01-05 17:49:18 <pj> I believe there is more but I'm not a fan of Matrix or arathorn so I'm going to stop at this :] but it can be all looked up on lobsters or HN comments
2025-01-05 19:37:15 <nu_> ty for the pointers. now my question is what life support means. if it doesn't get the latest features but still has a set of reliable basic ones that make most things work well then i wouldnt yet jump the ship.
2025-01-05 19:40:16 <nu_> that reminds me that i should check back on the db rot github issue that exploded the previous alpine homeserver :p
2025-01-05 19:44:42 <ikke> afaik didn't get much traction
2025-01-06 08:24:12 <clandmeter> testing something on pioneer 2
2025-01-06 08:33:15 <ncopa> btw, the 6.12 sophgo kernel boots in qemu
2025-01-06 16:11:29 <ncopa> i think we have a problem with build-3-18-armv7
2025-01-06 16:12:06 <ncopa> looks like last time it built anything was nov 2024
2025-01-06 16:14:32 <ikke> ncopa: want me to look at it?
2025-01-06 16:14:40 <ncopa> would be nice, thanks
2025-01-06 16:14:51 <ncopa> maybe it is beacuse it uses ipv6 to msg.a.o?
2025-01-06 16:15:14 <ikke> error: Unable to create '/home/buildozer/aports/.git/index.lock': File exists.
2025-01-06 16:15:19 <ikke> git lock
2025-01-06 16:15:22 <ncopa> ok
2025-01-06 16:15:58 <ikke> it's building now
2025-01-06 16:16:02 <ncopa> thank you!
2025-01-06 16:18:59 <ikke> armv7 3.17 has the same issue
2025-01-06 16:19:30 <ikke> armhf*
2025-01-06 16:24:04 <ncopa> ok
2025-01-06 16:26:13 <ncopa> looks like build-3-17-x86 as well?
2025-01-06 16:27:28 <ikke> no index.lock file exists there
2025-01-06 16:28:30 <ncopa> https://build.alpinelinux.org/ show pulling git
2025-01-06 16:28:37 <ncopa> it doesnt matter
2025-01-06 16:28:40 <ncopa> its EOL anyway
2025-01-06 16:28:40 <ikke> yes, the process is running
2025-01-06 16:50:10 <ncopa> did gitlab just break?
2025-01-06 16:55:29 <ikke> It's working, although sometimes a bit sluggish for me
2025-01-06 17:01:09 <ikke> The google AI crawler was making a lot of requests
2025-01-06 18:21:34 <invoked> 
ACTION suggests returning http/402 for ai crawlers

2025-01-07 21:32:52 <Ariadne> anywho, i have a mac runner i need to connect to the apk-tools project.  can someone assist me with that process?  i guess i need some sort of registration code
2025-01-07 21:35:30 <ikke> Ariadne: yes
2025-01-07 21:35:45 <ikke> Did you setup a shell runner?
2025-01-07 21:35:57 <ikke> (or about to)
2025-01-07 21:36:01 <Ariadne> yeah i can just install ssh keys for someone else if they want to take over
2025-01-07 21:36:11 <Ariadne> or however we want to do this
2025-01-07 21:36:29 <Ariadne> though the device is only accessible via tailscale
2025-01-07 21:36:46 <ikke> It can connect outside?
2025-01-07 21:37:03 <Ariadne> yeah, just inbound connections
2025-01-07 21:37:17 <Ariadne> like to SSH into it, i would have to provision access to that specific device on my tailnet
2025-01-07 21:37:25 <ikke> understood
2025-01-07 21:37:31 <ikke> I can provide you a runner token
2025-01-07 21:37:39 <Ariadne> works for me
2025-01-07 21:39:06 <Ariadne> just DM me the token whenever you have it and i'll type it in :)
2025-01-07 21:39:47 <ikke> The arch is aarch64?
2025-01-07 21:39:52 <ikke> (for tags)
2025-01-07 21:40:16 <Ariadne> yeah, though this is a macOS runner, so we probably want a special tag for that
2025-01-07 21:40:24 <ikke> yeah
2025-01-07 21:42:44 <Ariadne> (technically darwin calls it "arm64" instead of "aarch64", but i am not sure if that makes any impact here)
2025-01-07 21:42:51 <ikke> not really
2025-01-07 21:43:54 <ikke> I dm'ed you the token, I suppose you would setup a runner with a shell executor?
2025-01-07 21:44:07 <Ariadne> what should i name this runner?
2025-01-07 21:44:47 <ikke> I think you can ignore that, with the new registration flow, that information is alreayd provided in advance
2025-01-07 21:45:14 <ikke> gitlab-runner registger --url https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org
2025-01-07 21:45:20 <ikke> gitlab-runner registger --url https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org --token <token>
2025-01-07 21:45:29 <Ariadne> should be up
2025-01-07 21:46:04 <ikke> yes
2025-01-07 21:46:05 <Ariadne> though i am rebooting the host
2025-01-07 21:46:18 <ikke> That's not an issue
2025-01-07 21:47:28 <ikke> The next step is to add a job to run tests for macos
2025-01-07 21:47:49 <ikke> I suppose it would make sense to make sure all the necessary dependencies are already present?
2025-01-07 21:48:05 <Ariadne> yeah i'm going to work with aparcar to figure out next steps
2025-01-07 21:48:23 <ikke> nod
2025-01-07 21:48:37 <Ariadne> (what is the name of the runner/tags for it?)
2025-01-07 21:48:46 <ikke> The runner is available in the alpine/apk-tools project. For forks, we would need to manually enable the runner for that fork
2025-01-07 21:48:56 <ikke> macos-shell (tag)
2025-01-07 21:50:01 <Ariadne> sounds good
2025-01-08 10:56:45 <ncopa> seems like git.a.o is not syncing 3.18-stable 3.19-stable?
2025-01-08 10:56:57 <ncopa> https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/log/?h=3.18-stable
2025-01-08 11:20:35 <ikke> It seems it is now?
2025-01-08 11:27:28 <ncopa> ok. maybe it was just slow
2025-01-08 14:09:39 <pj> gitlab is dying when trying to view history of APKBUILD
2025-01-08 15:47:05 <ncopa> ikke can you help me with a toot for the new stable releases?
2025-01-08 15:48:16 <ikke> Yes, will take care of that in ~20 minutes 
2025-01-08 16:11:48 <ikke> ncopa: You didn't publish the release post yet?
2025-01-08 16:22:35 <ncopa> I think I did? https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.18.11-3.19.6-3.20.5-3.21.2-released.html
2025-01-08 16:47:48 <tomalok> yep, cloud image build picked that one up for its motd
2025-01-08 20:46:06 <fossdd[m]> hugo
2025-01-08 20:46:09 <fossdd[m]> whoops
2025-01-08 23:31:07 <vkrishn> cgit cannot color display .initd codes? gitlab does it
2025-01-10 11:00:48 <greylinux> Hi, I've been directed to this channel, as I asked if a discourse forum may be an option for Alpine-linux?
2025-01-10 11:08:55 <clandmeter> we tried a forum before, not sure alpine is the right env for it.
2025-01-10 11:11:38 <greylinux> but alot of distributions have discourse forums now and Alpine appears to be growing in popularity for general desktop use. Although I admit I'm still very new to it myself I have seen alot of comments on Mastodon about the lack of a support forum 
2025-01-10 11:12:30 <greylinux> from my experience of forums most of my support on projects I use are from support forums. Alot of people dont use IRC these days.
2025-01-10 11:21:43 <ncopa> greylinux: are you willing to set it up and maintain it? and help moderate it?
2025-01-10 11:25:04 <greylinux> I would be more than happy to assist with moderation, but honestly although I would love to say I could set up and maintain it, my skills are not enough to even know where to begin. Is this not something that could be requested on say mastodon to see what the community might offer?
2025-01-10 11:26:08 <greylinux> maybe even a poll on mastodon to see the general consensus?
2025-01-10 11:29:22 <ikke> consensus about what?
2025-01-10 11:29:53 <greylinux> whether the community would like/benefit from a forum
2025-01-10 11:30:20 <ikke> Not sure how usefull that is
2025-01-10 11:30:35 <ikke> Most people would agree it would nice to have a forum
2025-01-10 11:30:48 <ikke> But how many are willing to contribute to providing support?
2025-01-10 11:31:12 <ncopa> thats the usual problem. lots of good opinions on what to do, but everyone expect us to do it
2025-01-10 11:31:26 <ncopa> and tbh, I am more than overloaded
2025-01-10 11:31:31 <ncopa> cannot keep up with everything
2025-01-10 11:31:47 <ncopa> right now I'm trygin to find out whey the 6.6.70 kernel does not build
2025-01-10 11:32:00 <ncopa> so I could do that, or I could work on setting up a forum of some sort
2025-01-10 11:32:25 <ncopa> traditionally we have preferd self hosted, on alpine machines
2025-01-10 11:32:40 <ncopa> but i'm kinda ok to use something hosted by someone else
2025-01-10 11:32:48 <ncopa> then there are things like reddit and stack overflow
2025-01-10 11:33:20 <greylinux> from my experience on forums the community help each other with problems, I'm not saying I think you should setup the  forum and manage it, its quite an ask to do what you are doing, but maybe the community would provide?
2025-01-10 11:33:22 <ncopa> but I tend to agree that it would be useful with some sort of forum
2025-01-10 11:33:55 <ncopa> i need to go out now. and get some sun before it gets dark
2025-01-10 11:34:05 <ncopa> have a nice weekend everyone!
2025-01-10 11:34:09 <greylinux> I personnal think reddit is on its way out 
2025-01-10 11:34:16 <greylinux> have a good day ncopa
2025-01-10 11:34:38 <ikke> What I dislike about discourse is that the only official way to deploy it is to use their pre-built docker solution
2025-01-10 11:35:14 <greylinux> thats fair, I only have experience using Discourse but I have seen others.
2025-01-10 11:35:18 <ikke> Which is akin to a binary distribution
2025-01-10 11:36:24 <ikke> What ncopa mentioned is that we strongly prefer to deploy everything on alpine (dogfood our own distro)
2025-01-10 11:37:07 <greylinux> Thats fair I would be the same, but at least you may find moderators etc from the community ?
2025-01-10 11:38:34 <greylinux> If the request was put on Mastodon or where ever really, we can see if the community would be willing to step and help.
2025-01-10 11:59:39 <greylinux> I leave the channel and let you get back to enjoying your day. If you need to contact me about anything i'm on this handle on mastodon.
2025-01-10 13:57:08 <ncopa> ikke: crazy idea. what if we set up a small kubernetes cluster on linode (1 controller, 2 or 3 workers) and move gitlab to that? then maybe we could have multiple gitaly instances? Or at least separate out gitaly to a separate node
2025-01-10 15:21:29 <pj> I was wondering if there were any plans to get off gitlab at some point
2025-01-10 15:27:49 <fossdd[m]> but to what?
2025-01-10 15:28:07 <fossdd[m]> i really like forgejo, but it's kinda lightweight and not really suitable for alpine's purposes i think
2025-01-10 15:42:27 <clandmeter> there are no plans to leave gitlab
2025-01-10 15:43:33 <clandmeter> anyone suggesting this does not understand the scope of it and availability of manpower to make it happen
2025-01-10 16:39:56 <fossdd[m]> yeah true that as well
2025-01-10 16:42:55 <pj> <fossdd[m]> "but to what?" <- nothing currently, because nothing really supports stuff that gitlab.a.o is using
2025-01-10 16:42:55 <pj> although gitea/forgejo will have features that would make it possible in future
2025-01-10 16:43:21 <fossdd[m]> yes
2025-01-10 16:44:05 <pj> given that fedora is going to improve forgejo, this might be sooner than later
2025-01-10 18:16:35 <ncopa> what would be the benefit? the cost of switching is high
2025-01-10 18:18:09 <ikke> having a maintainer that is vested in open-source (gitlab is looking for a buyer)
2025-01-10 18:19:31 <ncopa> WARNING: this is alpha release quality code and should not be considered secure enough to deploy in production.
2025-01-10 18:19:38 <ncopa> https://code.forgejo.org/forgejo/runner#forgejo-runner
2025-01-10 18:34:07 <ikke> clandmeter: ^'
2025-01-10 19:04:57 <clandmeter> Looks like connectivity issue
2025-01-10 19:21:20 <ikke> ncopa: I'm afraid it's not just a matter of running multiple gitaly instances
2025-01-10 19:23:50 <ikke> It at least also involves deploying praefect
2025-01-11 08:07:33 <nu_> does anything depend on che-bld-1's v6 address, or could it be simply changed behind the dns? (the move might introduce a new v6 prefix)
2025-01-11 08:10:34 <ikke> Except for documentation, I don't believe so
2025-01-11 08:10:54 <ikke> No services run their that things are actively connecting to
2025-01-11 08:11:01 <ikke> there*
2025-01-11 08:11:56 <ikke> che-bld-1.alpinelinux.org points to the current ipv6 address
2025-01-11 08:13:35 <ikke> Oh, I see, there are potentially some developer containers that are directly connected to by their ipv6 address
2025-01-11 08:49:14 <nu_> ill try to keep the prefix then
2025-01-11 08:51:41 <nu_> would be nice if e.g. podman could generate and update dns entries for each container
2025-01-11 08:52:46 <nu_> or something external that scrapes container runners
2025-01-11 08:54:58 <ikke> These are lxc containers
2025-01-11 08:55:16 <ikke> nu_: I don't think it's a big deal to change the prefix
2025-01-11 08:55:52 <ikke> for ipv4, we use dnsmasq to automatically resolve container names (but for an internal dns resolver that requires vpn access)
2025-01-11 08:56:17 <nu_> v4 is not an issue because it's hidden behind nat
2025-01-11 08:57:23 <nu_> maybe ill start to nat your v6 to v6
2025-01-11 13:39:54 <qaqland> i think we can setup a comment part more than a forum. for example, each package have its own comment section
2025-01-11 19:03:12 <ikke> qaqland: Not all issues are tied to a single package though
2025-01-11 19:03:39 <ikke> And if it's about a specific package, an issue in gitlab would work as well
2025-01-12 09:08:26 <nu_> for the record the v6 natting idea was a joke
2025-01-12 09:09:03 <ikke> :)
2025-01-12 09:09:25 <ikke> Just update the prefix, we'll handle the rest
2025-01-12 09:10:46 <nu_> thanks, i was just planning a bit how big fight i should put up with my provider
2025-01-12 12:08:42 <omni> https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/aports/-/merge_requests/78017#note_470981
2025-01-12 13:45:19 <omni> ikke: thanks
2025-01-14 11:28:19 <clandmeter> ncopa, ikke, not a single nvme issue with the samsung nvme on pioneer2
2025-01-14 11:28:36 <clandmeter> theyve been stable since it seems
2025-01-14 11:29:16 <ikke> clandmeter: do you still see them on pioneer1?
2025-01-14 11:29:27 <clandmeter> nope
2025-01-14 11:29:52 <clandmeter> so it could be coincidence 
2025-01-14 11:29:53 <ikke> Does that have the original nvme or also a samsung nvme?
2025-01-14 11:29:55 <ikke> ok
2025-01-14 11:30:17 <clandmeter> only 2 has a samsung one
2025-01-14 11:30:25 <ikke> right
2025-01-14 11:30:32 <clandmeter> its also smaller
2025-01-14 11:30:37 <clandmeter> its an older gen
2025-01-14 11:31:38 <clandmeter> if its really more stable we could try another nvme
2025-01-14 12:08:57 <ncopa> sounds good
2025-01-14 12:09:33 <ncopa> what do we need? 1TB?
2025-01-14 12:12:35 <clandmeter> probably
2025-01-14 13:03:57 <ncopa> we need one or two?
2025-01-14 13:23:30 <clandmeter> if you want to upgrade the 500G one, then its 2
2025-01-14 13:47:45 <ncopa> i think I'll ask on fediverse if someone wants to donate one or two high quality nvme SSDs
2025-01-14 15:20:20 <clandmeter> m.2 pls
2025-01-14 15:20:36 <clandmeter> high quality could be u.2 
2025-01-14 16:26:55 <ncopa> clandmeter: are you on fedivers?
2025-01-14 16:37:38 <ncopa> https://fosstodon.org/@ncopa/113827653828892884
2025-01-14 16:40:14 <ikke> ncopa: maybe also specify where they are needed? (for import / shipping purposes)
2025-01-14 16:42:00 <ncopa> 👍
2025-01-14 18:45:14 <vkrishn> ikke: this is where to make changes for git.a.o ? https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/infra/compose/cgit
2025-01-14 18:45:46 <ikke> yes, but sadly there have been made quite some changes on the server that have not been reconciled in this repo
2025-01-14 18:46:02 <vkrishn> yes, i was guessing it
2025-01-14 18:47:50 <vkrishn> could u add this on top on unknowns, https://tpaste.us/xDav 
2025-01-14 18:48:52 <vkrishn> its for /usr/local/bin/highlight.sh
2025-01-14 18:50:48 <vkrishn> AI's have not overtaken parts of it, right :)
2025-01-14 18:50:58 <ikke> nope
2025-01-14 18:51:23 <ikke> The highlighter was switched to a python implementation, but I switched it back due to issues
2025-01-14 18:53:06 <vkrishn> python takes some more resources
2025-01-14 18:53:58 <vkrishn> iirc, kernel.a.o uses older version of hightlighter and can handle large files
2025-01-14 18:54:25 <vkrishn> someone complained about it, few days back
2025-01-14 18:54:44 <ikke> The main reason was to support dark themese
2025-01-14 18:54:47 <ikke> themes
2025-01-14 18:54:52 <ikke> for the python implementation
2025-01-14 18:56:20 <vkrishn> highlighter has themes too
2025-01-14 18:57:31 <ikke> It's not about being able to switch themes statically, but that it can adopt to preferring dark themes
2025-01-14 18:58:07 <ikke> '@media only all and (prefers-color-scheme: dark) {'
2025-01-14 18:58:13 <vkrishn> did some changes, exec highlight --inline-css --force -f -I -O xhtml -S "$EXTENSION" 2>/dev/null 
2025-01-14 18:58:36 <ikke> For this you don't want inline-css
2025-01-14 18:58:41 <vkrishn> ok
2025-01-14 18:58:59 <ikke> You want css classes so that you can override the style in css
2025-01-14 18:59:18 <ikke> view-source:https://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit.css
2025-01-14 19:00:03 <ikke> That part's broken now due to highlight not using classes
2025-01-14 19:04:08 <vkrishn> ok, would prefer highlight for better perf
2025-01-14 19:05:12 <vkrishn> thanks, for enabling it in .initd
2025-01-14 19:08:59 <vkrishn> will look at class bug, think i got it working couple of yrs back, don't recall now (v3.14 maybe)
2025-01-14 19:11:54 <ikke> It would still require updating the stylesheet to match the classes that highlight would use
2025-01-14 19:12:06 <ikke> I do agree about performance
2025-01-14 23:38:59 <sertonix[m]> When I try to git clone from git.alpinelinux.org (not gitlab) I get a 500. Do other people have the same issue?
2025-01-15 00:43:18 <vkrishn> git pull works, if in urgent need, clone from other sites and change origin->url
2025-01-15 08:04:02 <clandmeter> sertonix[m]: do you have url you are trying to clone?
2025-01-15 08:04:26 <clandmeter> ah got it
2025-01-15 08:11:36 <clandmeter> heh
2025-01-15 08:11:49 <clandmeter> ikke made so many local changes its hard to see what caused it
2025-01-15 08:19:23 <ikke> Not me 😞
2025-01-15 10:02:22 <clandmeter> oh, maybe i did it ones myself, but i dont remember. 
2025-01-15 10:02:55 <clandmeter> anyways, nginx does not show anything, so i assume its traefik thats generating the 500