2025-07-08 15:18:32 <pabloyoyoista> ikke, ncopa, clandmeter: there seems to be some agreement on https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/docs/governance/-/merge_requests/1 ? Or at least no more feedback
2025-07-08 15:18:47 <pabloyoyoista> Maybe a plan to move forward
2025-07-08 15:19:32 <pabloyoyoista> Give it a read again each of you, press the "Approve" button if all goes right, or give feedback
2025-07-08 15:20:06 <pabloyoyoista> 1.a I address feedback if there's any, and go back to step 1
2025-07-08 15:21:05 <pabloyoyoista> Merge it and deploy it
2025-07-08 15:22:38 <pabloyoyoista> Add the template to the Council repository
2025-07-08 15:23:06 <pabloyoyoista> Give this publicity in Mastodon and a blog post (maybe I can write this next week)
2025-07-08 15:23:52 <pabloyoyoista> 5.? Do you want to add me to have permissions to merge in that repo?
2025-07-08 15:24:09 <pabloyoyoista> Move on with the next priorities :)
2025-07-08 15:25:11 <pabloyoyoista> Actually, seems we can close https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/council/-/issues/3 in the process :)
2025-07-08 15:28:42 <ncopa> i can hava a final look late tonight or maybe tomorrow
2025-07-08 15:35:02 <pabloyoyoista> Thanks!
2025-07-14 14:17:11 <pabloyoyoista> ikke clandmeter: any further thoughts about https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/docs/governance/-/merge_requests/1 ?
2025-07-17 09:31:06 <clandmeter> pabloyoyoista: im ok, approved sorry for the delay, didnt see ncopa already did :)
2025-07-17 09:31:16 <clandmeter> ikke: can you approve also?
2025-07-21 17:51:01 <ikke> DOne
2025-07-23 06:47:42 <ikke> pabloyoyoista: the MR was merged and it was automatically published in docs.a.o
2025-07-23 10:03:00 <pabloyoyoista> Nice!
2025-07-23 10:04:09 <pabloyoyoista> Then we're now in the part 3
2025-07-23 10:05:49 <pabloyoyoista> Add the template to the Council repository: which is adding https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/-/project/30/uploads/5649ea15e1bab210ccdefd145930d0f9/NewDeveloper.md to .gitlab/issue_templates
2025-07-23 10:06:22 <pabloyoyoista> Give this publicity in Mastodon and a blog post (I'll start this week)
2025-07-23 10:06:22 <pabloyoyoista> Move on with the next priorities :)
2025-07-23 10:06:22 <pabloyoyoista> 5.? Do you want to add me to have permissions to merge in that repo?
2025-07-28 13:22:38 <pabloyoyoista> Does anybody know if https://docs.alpinelinux.org/governance/0.1a/Policies/voting.html and https://docs.alpinelinux.org/governance/0.1a/Policies/update.html are reflections of actual decisions taken by the Council/TSC, or just placeholder hopes?
2025-07-28 13:22:58 <pabloyoyoista> As in, have they ever been implemented/used?
2025-07-28 13:23:45 <pabloyoyoista> If they haven't been put into practice, I'm considering removing them for the time-being. And add whichever details are needed once the TSC starts meeting more regularly and decide on such things
2025-07-28 14:01:23 <ikke> pabloyoyoista: they were just ideas, never implemented 
2025-07-28 14:03:14 <pabloyoyoista> ikke: thanks for that info
2025-07-28 14:03:18 <pabloyoyoista> I've now sent https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/docs/governance/-/merge_requests/2
2025-07-28 14:03:22 <pabloyoyoista> and https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/infra/alpine-mksite/-/merge_requests/107
2025-07-28 14:03:53 <pabloyoyoista> Some small minor improvements to the governance docs, and blog post to publicise the new developers' process
2025-07-29 13:34:14 <donte> hello there. I've recently created my account in Alpine Wiki, and i wish to contribute as a translator. Can anyone guide me about the good practices if i wish to make PT_BR versions of wiki pages, and possibly translations of the docs in the future?
2025-07-30 06:58:38 <pabloyoyoista> Unfortunately right now there is no coordinated effort for those kind of things
2025-07-30 06:59:07 <pabloyoyoista> I'm not sure if there are some documents, or if it's more or less up to the person doing the work, 
2025-07-30 07:24:20 <achill> i think that most pages are out-of-date and not really have a lot of quality so translating them makes not a lot of sense
2025-07-30 16:47:58 <prabu> achill, my earlier suggestion made on regarding this quality issue: "2025-06-25 16:30:07 <prabu> ikke, can you consider adding Extension:ArticleRatings to our wiki.. i hope this will allow wiki users to give rating to wiki pages and help us focus on badly rated articles"
2025-07-30 16:49:52 <prabu> meanwhile we should still welcome and facilitate donte to translate and make available wiki in additional languages..
2025-07-30 17:07:19 <achill> i just fear that once we update wiki pages the translated pages still keep being out of date, and its not something we can fix or even notice
2025-07-30 17:17:35 <panekj> translations are massive effort, and even english wiki is in terrible state
2025-07-30 17:20:05 <prabu> there needs a way to identify and mark poor quality articles... since wiki content is for users, they should be able to rate the quality of articles 
2025-07-30 17:20:59 <achill> tbh almost everything needs rework
2025-07-30 17:20:59 <panekj> un/helpful buttons would be nice, star or number scale would also be good
2025-07-30 17:21:17 <panekj> and it would be really great if there was like a recency check for article
2025-07-30 17:21:29 <panekj> if it's not updated for a long time, it could display warning
2025-07-30 17:27:46 <prabu> i checked through multiple mediawiki extensions and found ArticleRatings to be the best to help improve quality of wiki pages..
2025-07-30 18:17:14 <invoked> that's assuming people will use it
2025-07-30 18:18:21 <invoked> (or a wide enough distribution where you could consider it representative of what most people are experiencing)
2025-07-30 18:19:46 <invoked> you've been doing good stuff.  where arch wiki succeeded early on was just having really good editors.
2025-07-30 18:20:00 <invoked> there wasn't any magic