2019-10-12 22:24:12 <byrn> Hi, I just opened a new pull request on apk-tools in order to add the --ignore flag feature described here : https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/apk-tools/issues/8792. Since I didn't found any documentation about the apk internals (see https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Apk_internals), I'm interested in documenting what I learned when reading and modifying the code. I'm not sure which is the best place to do this between the wiki and the developer han
2019-10-12 22:24:14 <byrn> dbook. Do you have any advice about this ?
2019-10-12 22:26:31 <SpaceToast> hey byrn, that should probably go into the developer handbook
2019-10-12 22:27:06 <SpaceToast> you should clone https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/docs/developer-handbook, make a new module for apk internals (likely just "apk")
2019-10-12 22:27:18 <SpaceToast> once it's done, open an MR to that same project
2019-10-12 22:27:29 <byrn> It was my initial though but the project seems not longer active
2019-10-12 22:27:48 <SpaceToast> I'm the one behind the project, and I'm telling you to do just that ;)
2019-10-12 22:28:05 <byrn> ok tanks I will do that :)
2019-10-12 22:28:09 <SpaceToast> there are a couple of reasons as to why not much has happened in a while, but your data is perfectly welcome
2019-10-12 22:28:21 <SpaceToast> I try to enforce relatively high quality standards for the official docs, so I expect it to take several revisions
2019-10-12 22:28:38 <SpaceToast> if you're not comfortable iteratively improving the content till inclusion you can use the wiki to draft it up first
2019-10-12 22:34:43 <byrn> this is fine for me, I will work on the developer handbook
2019-10-12 22:35:12 <SpaceToast> alright, feel free to ping me in here if you need any help (and/or when you've got something to show) :)
2019-10-12 22:36:43 <byrn> thanks a lot, I won't hesitate :)
2019-10-12 22:37:20 <byrn> also, I saw that all the SSL certificates of the doc website expired the last month
2019-10-12 22:37:43 <SpaceToast> poke the peeps in #alpine-infra about that
2019-10-12 22:38:52 <byrn> oh I wasn't aware of this channel
2019-10-12 22:40:25 <_ikke_> checking already
2019-10-16 08:53:11 <clandmeter> SpaceToast: ping
2019-10-16 12:53:47 <SpaceToast> clandmeter: pong, what is it?
2019-10-16 13:48:51 <_ikke_> SpaceToast: He wanted to ask if you still need beta.docs.a.o, or if just docs.a.o is enough
2019-10-16 13:49:03 <SpaceToast> ah, just docs.a.o is fine
2019-10-16 13:49:13 <SpaceToast> at the end of the day they point to the same place, and the user handbook is stable anyways
2019-10-16 17:08:20 <clandmeter> :)
2019-10-16 17:08:50 <clandmeter> It docs crashes I'll send them to you
2019-10-19 11:59:15 <mckaygerhard> _ikke_ ncopa SpaceToast i noted that due the nature of the alpine linux the behaviour of how woks mediawiki or markdown wiki's  (github/gitlab/gitea)  does are not usefully..
2019-10-19 11:59:15 <mckaygerhard> _ikke_ ncopa SpaceToast  by example.. installation way: in the cases of USB, CDmedia, IMAGE-arm .. making the media source are very different and the only common part are the setup-disk invocation and few quetions..
2019-10-19 11:59:15 <mckaygerhard> _ikke_ ncopa SpaceToast  so i found that the only working wiki system are the Redmine's one..  due in wiki system of Redmine there's a mechanis to include and join parts of wiki pages.. so common parts can become into a complete page and can  be combined...
2019-10-19 12:03:37 <mckaygerhard> by "including" page 1 and 3 i can make a new page "pepe it's a good guy " + "that" + "pepe it's also using stupid windos" without rewrite all of that lines .. by just using "include(page1 that include(page3)"
2019-10-20 17:54:32 <_ikke_> fyi, beta.docs.alpinelinux.org now redirects to docs.alpinelinux.org, and docs.alpinelinux.org has a valid cert
2019-10-20 17:54:46 <SpaceToast> ta :)
2019-10-20 17:55:05 <_ikke_> You're welcome
2019-10-24 17:34:38 <_ikke_> SpaceToast: Any plans to work on the developer handbook?
2019-10-24 17:34:48 <_ikke_> SpaceToast: I'd like to contribute
2019-10-24 17:35:00 <SpaceToast> _ikke_: feel free to contribute, but it's fairly low on my list of priorities
2019-10-24 17:35:22 <SpaceToast> given that every time I try to do investigative work in order to populate it appropriately the reactions are rather dismissive and negative (with no outcome)
2019-10-24 17:35:41 <_ikke_> SpaceToast: I understand
2019-10-24 17:35:48 <SpaceToast> just open MRs and we'll try and figure it out :)
2019-10-24 17:36:04 <SpaceToast> feel free to poke me if I don't seem to have noticed it after a few days
2019-10-24 17:36:10 <_ikke_> ok
2019-10-24 17:36:54 <_ikke_> Did you already have some kind of structure in mind?
2019-10-24 17:37:53 <SpaceToast> I was thinking of something along the lines of separating by type of concern
2019-10-24 17:38:36 <SpaceToast> so a module for apk internals, a module about how abuild works, a module dedicated to writing abuild files (best practices etc) and then a general "how to be a developer and be able to debug stuff" thing