2024-12-02 21:35:07 <ncopa> we do metal disk images, right?
2024-12-02 21:35:20 <ncopa> i wonder if we could make metal images for riscv64
2024-12-02 21:38:43 <tomalok> yep we do metal -- what clouds provide arch's other than x86_64 and aarch64 -- or would this be primarily a nocloud endeavour?
2024-12-02 21:39:01 <ncopa> for nocloud indeed
2024-12-02 21:39:38 <ncopa> the idea is to use this for headless starfive vision five boards
2024-12-02 21:39:55 <tomalok> i can add other archs into the alpine-cloud-images matrix, and specify that it's just applicable for nocloud
2024-12-02 21:40:12 <tomalok> but i'll need some QEMU configs to emulate the arch
2024-12-02 21:40:28 <ncopa> it may need some special treatment for the boot loader
2024-12-02 21:40:36 <ncopa> may need u-boot
2024-12-02 21:40:45 <ncopa> its just idea currently
2024-12-02 21:41:01 <ncopa> the alpine images are basically live usb's
2024-12-02 21:41:11 <ncopa> but it makes sense to flash the full install to the sdcard
2024-12-02 21:41:24 <ncopa> and ship the config as tiny cloud config
2024-12-02 21:41:39 <tomalok> riscv64 doesn't do UEFI?
2024-12-02 21:41:41 <ncopa> and, boom, you have a headless installed
2024-12-02 21:42:06 <ncopa> it does, but then you have to flash the firmware :)
2024-12-02 21:42:22 <ncopa> its basically uboot with uefi support
2024-12-02 21:43:40 <ncopa> its just an idea still
2024-12-02 21:43:44 <ncopa> not sure its worth it
2024-12-02 21:43:51 <ncopa> or how much work it means
2024-12-02 21:45:54 <tomalok> https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/cloud/alpine-cloud-images/-/blob/main/configs/arch/aarch64.conf?ref_type=heads - we'd need something like qemu.machine_type and qemu.args -- and presumably there'd need to be some OVF(?) UEFI for riscv64 -- this is just needed for local build -- metal images are still built in vm, so maybe uboot wouldn't be
2024-12-02 21:45:54 <tomalok> needed?
2024-12-02 21:47:15 <ncopa> for qemu i think uefi should work
2024-12-03 13:35:41 <clandmeter> i see there is support for incus in tiny-cloud, does this mean we have images to support it?
2024-12-03 14:54:38 <ncopa> right now the only support for incus is to find the metadata via /dev/incus/sock
2024-12-03 14:54:56 <ncopa> i dont know if that shows up in VMs. but in sysmte containers they do
2024-12-03 17:37:23 <tomalok> cloud images for 3.21 will have a "generic tiny cloud" flavor that would autodetect incus as ncopa mentioned
2024-12-03 18:36:13 <clandmeter> ncopa: the device is available
2024-12-03 18:36:40 <clandmeter> so i wonder if i could use our cloud/metal images to run in incus
2024-12-03 18:36:50 <clandmeter> with tiny-cloud ofc
2024-12-03 18:36:57 <clandmeter> i dont like the upstream images
2024-12-03 18:46:22 <clandmeter> ~ # curl --unix-socket /dev/incus/sock http://localhost/1.0
2024-12-03 18:46:22 <clandmeter> {"state":"Started","api_version":"1.0","instance_type":"virtual-machine","location":"nld3-ci"}
2024-12-03 20:25:14 <ncopa> Oh nice 
2024-12-03 20:25:50 <ncopa> I suppose we need som sort of client or c/m guest agent for that?
2024-12-03 20:42:12 <clandmeter> what is c/m?
2024-12-03 21:01:48 <fossdd[m]> omni: oh nice i saw you polished the release notes a bit. thanks!
2024-12-03 21:03:38 <ikke> fossdd[m]: wrong channel?
2024-12-03 21:03:49 <fossdd[m]> oooops yeah
2024-12-03 21:10:59 <tomalok> may have been some regression on GCP images since i last validated (3.19) -- either it's something we did (made the raw image dynamically sized) or something google did to introspect imported images -- not sure yet
2024-12-04 02:53:37 <tomalok> impossible to import to GCP via web console -- have to use gcloud UI to be able to set arch & features
2024-12-04 14:52:11 <ncopa> I think this release of tiny cloud is a significant improvement. It basically means that alpine iso have subset support of cloud-init, out of the box
2024-12-04 14:52:33 <ncopa> i wonder where and how we document it
2024-12-04 16:16:48 <ikke> ncopa: I'd say the user documentation
2024-12-05 13:49:03 <ncopa> alpine 3.21. is out
2024-12-05 14:01:14 <Ermine> 
ACTION throws release confetti

2024-12-05 16:53:58 <tomalok> \o/
2024-12-05 16:55:12 <tomalok> ncopa - any new 3.18/19/20 releases coming soon or just 3.21 (as far as we know now)
2024-12-05 17:10:30 <ncopa> not nearest week
2024-12-05 17:40:50 <tomalok> 👍 thx - i'm reviewing some changes to alpine-cloud-images, and then will start the build for 3.21, then.
2024-12-05 17:45:24 <ikke> Ping me if I need to upload things
2024-12-05 18:02:02 <tomalok> might not be today, there are a couple of things i may test/tweak first (generic cloud images)
2024-12-05 18:04:52 <ikke> node
2024-12-05 18:04:54 <ikke> nod
2024-12-07 20:31:26 <tomalok> edge (from a couple days ago) testing across AWS/Azure/GCP/OCI looks good for x86_64/aarch64, tiny/cloudinit images - made some notes about importing/launching - working on building all the new 3.21 variants...
2024-12-10 17:52:29 <tomalok> btw, cloud images are now released for 3.21.0
2024-12-10 18:44:33 <thresh> thanks tomalok, already tried them for our build farm yesterday - no issues so far :)
2024-12-10 18:44:44 <thresh> much appreciated!
2024-12-10 19:37:17 <tomalok> thresh - just curious - which cloud provider
2024-12-10 20:17:52 <thresh> tomalok, aws, and uefi-tiny images for amd64 and arm64