2022-08-03 20:55:04 <chris_> Hello did I connect or do I need to register? 
2022-08-03 20:55:26 <ikke> chris_: we can read you loud and clear
2022-08-03 20:55:31 <chris_> awesome
2022-08-03 20:56:04 <chris_> soo I was sent here because I wanted to get alpine running on oracle cloud and wanted to ask what would be the most proper way to set it up
2022-08-03 20:57:28 <ikke> We do not have dedicated images at the moment
2022-08-03 20:57:37 <ikke> or even a generic cloud image for that matter
2022-08-03 20:57:49 <chris_> I'm pretty sure nobody has images for it except alma linux :)
2022-08-03 20:57:55 <ikke> heh
2022-08-03 20:58:10 <ikke> So what can you use to install systems?
2022-08-03 20:58:20 <ikke> (I have no experience with oracle cloud at all)
2022-08-03 20:58:23 <chris_> I can send qcow image 
2022-08-03 20:59:10 <chris_> I found your neat script called `alpine-make-vm-image` but was not sure what to do with networking
2022-08-03 20:59:49 <chris_> I mostly want to try them because they give free VMs :)
2022-08-03 21:00:09 <ikke> https://github.com/dermotbradley/create-alpine-disk-image/ exists as well
2022-08-03 21:00:52 <chris_> hmm is there a way to build arm images with it on amd64?
2022-08-03 21:01:00 <chris_> ooh they even mention oracle cloud, neat!
2022-08-03 21:01:47 <ikke> Dermot Bradley hangs around here as well (though not atm)
2022-08-03 21:02:17 <chris_> thanks a lot I'll try with it if I mess something up I'll bug you more 
2022-08-03 21:55:56 <chris> hello it's me again
2022-08-03 21:56:38 <Guest7040> soo turns out moving to openssl3 broke some stuff for you and https doesn't work for now on the script
2022-08-03 21:57:24 <Guest7040> but got an error about urandom not existing http://dpaste.com/9JYGYABRR
2022-08-03 21:57:37 <Guest7040> it might be because I'm trying to build it inside a VM
2022-08-03 21:59:34 <panekj> I said it's most likely *not* due to upgrade since that error happened before upgrade as well
2022-08-03 21:59:34 <ikke> Things are still building / uploading, so yes, things are a bit broken niw 
2022-08-03 21:59:54 <panekj> re: ssl error
2022-08-03 22:00:41 <panekj> for the urandom thing, it shouldn't matter since it's just openrc but just to be on the safe side, you can use --release 3.16
2022-08-03 22:01:17 <Guest7040> I mean it fails to create image because of that but I'll try it thanks
2022-08-03 22:03:30 <panekj> it's something about apk-tools not running on alpine that breaks HTTPS
2022-08-03 22:03:39 <panekj> I never digged to find out why
2022-08-03 22:04:14 <ikke> Different ssl.conf location? 
2022-08-03 22:04:23 <ikke> Or something like that 
2022-08-03 22:04:38 <panekj> 6907320:error:1416F086:SSL routines:tls_process_server_certificate:certificate verify failed:ssl/statem/statem_clnt.c:1914:
2022-08-03 22:04:38 <panekj> 23:40:16 
2022-08-03 22:04:38 <panekj> fetch https://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/main/x86_64/APKINDEX.tar.gz
2022-08-03 22:04:49 <panekj> 'tis the error
2022-08-03 22:05:07 <panekj> which I assume is something about the ca-certs or ssl on host
2022-08-03 22:06:40 <ikke> I had to create a symlink one time when running apk-tools on none-alpine 
2022-08-03 22:13:41 <panekj> where was ssl.conf on alpine?
2022-08-03 22:45:46 <tomalok> chris_: i've been working on extending alpine-cloud-images build system to also do OCI (and others) -- but i got somewhat sidetracked on that, as the alpinelinux.org/cloud page needs a bit of overhaul to support multiple cloud providers, variants (i.e. tiny cloud vs cloud-init, etc.)
2022-08-03 22:50:56 <tomalok> now notices that chris_/chris/Guest7040 has disappeared...
2022-08-03 23:19:53 <panekj> yeah, they are trying to set up IRC bounder on oracle cloud :P
2022-08-04 01:08:03 <tomalok> ah, on one of the always-free instances?
2022-08-04 01:08:17 <tomalok> (fwiw, OCI = DayJob™)
2022-08-04 01:19:56 <panekj> I presume
2022-08-04 01:20:39 <panekj> I'm using it for gitea, random aarch64 builds and some minor projects
2022-08-05 01:39:53 <minimal> panekj: the HTTPS cert issue with apk-tools on alpine, was that regarding my create-alpine-disk-image script? I've not seen that myself
2022-08-05 02:32:16 <Ariadne> no its because
2022-08-05 02:32:22 <Ariadne> apk-tools is built against openssl 1.1
2022-08-05 02:32:27 <Ariadne> which has /etc/ssl1.1
2022-08-05 02:32:33 <Ariadne> because everything is horrible
2022-08-05 02:38:25 <minimal> Ariadne: are you referring to the statically built apk-tools binary?
2022-08-05 02:48:01 <Ariadne> yes
2022-08-05 02:48:09 <psykose> wasn't rebuilt yet
2022-08-05 02:48:15 <psykose> someone should trigger the CI for the dist one
2022-08-05 02:49:25 <psykose> (the alpine one is fine, the random static tarball one is not)
2022-08-05 02:49:40 <psykose> although afaik that one is also /etc/ssl because at the time it was built 1.1 used that
2022-08-05 03:06:21 <minimal> psykose: I think ikke looked after that in the past
2022-08-05 03:06:45 <psykose> ikke: ^ bump the static apk-tools pipeline :)
2022-08-05 03:14:52 <minimal> not sure if its related to the openssl stuff but whilst locally building Edge mkinitfs package it failed on x86_64 with lots of ld errors regarding undefined references to stuff in libcryptsetup.so. Built fine on aarch64. Guessing cryptsetup needs a rebuild on x86_64
2022-08-05 03:16:44 <psykose> looks fine from here
2022-08-05 03:28:55 <minimal> psykose: listen Elaine.... (Airplane 2 joke reference)
2022-08-05 03:29:06 <psykose> never seen :^)
2022-08-05 03:29:09 <psykose> but really try again
2022-08-07 15:48:35 <tomalok> The redesigned https://alpinelinux.org/cloud page has landed!  The filter helps narrow down images to what you're looking for -- this will be very helpful when more cloud providers are supported.
2022-08-07 15:49:19 <tomalok> (of particular note, "cloud-init" images are now listed here too)
2022-08-07 15:54:08 <psykose> looks good!
2022-08-07 15:56:39 <panekj> perhaps it could little text about <3.16 using sudo and >=3.16 using doas
2022-08-07 15:56:50 <panekj> s/could/could include
2022-08-07 16:35:26 <tomalok> panekj: that's covered in the general 3.16 release notes -- and also mentioned in the images' motd
2022-08-08 06:42:30 <clandmeter> tomalok: any reason you didn't make the options itself selectable? that would make the page considerable smaller.
2022-08-08 13:55:56 <tomalok> clandmeter: just woke up -- not sure i follow what you mean?
2022-08-08 14:41:48 <clandmeter> good morning
2022-08-08 14:43:41 <clandmeter> tomalok: i mean, having one row with select boxes so you can select, release, arch, firmware, boostrap and then push a button and go
2022-08-08 14:44:25 <clandmeter> doenst have to be one row, could be a box with rows and options
2022-08-08 15:24:26 <tomalok> clandmeter: i may not be entirely caffeinated yet -- but i _think_ what you're saying is that the long list of per-region image/launch lines shouldn't be rendered initially?  there is a plan to not show those by default -- but only after we have image binary downloads available (for NoCloud and others which we may not yet have per-region publicly
2022-08-08 15:24:26 <tomalok> launchable images in place)
2022-08-08 15:24:57 <tomalok> that's still a work-in-progress
2022-08-09 09:39:12 <ncopa> new stable releases are out
2022-08-09 13:36:20 <tomalok> ncopa: thanks -- i'll roll the new cloud images today
2022-08-09 18:38:21 <tomalok> ncopa, ikke: https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/infra/alpine-mksite/-/merge_requests/53 - new cloud images
2022-08-09 18:41:04 <ikke> Alright, will look at it in a bit
2022-08-09 18:41:08 <ikke> thanks!
2022-08-10 20:19:41 <ikke> merged
2022-08-10 21:08:32 <tomalok> ikke: thx!