2021-06-02 09:39:59 <skarnet> a project named waifud with the latest commit titled "be gay do crimes"
2021-06-02 09:40:00 <skarnet> I like it
2021-06-02 09:40:20 <skarnet> we should all suggest it to corporate
2021-06-02 09:50:41 <danieli> i dig the vibe but i think i'll avoid actively trying to lose my job :p
2021-06-02 10:31:35 <Xe> skarnet: it uses a license that is designed to stymy adoption by companies without negotiating a license with me
2021-06-02 10:31:44 <Xe> even better it's topical for pride month
2021-06-02 10:32:08 <Xe> https://github.com/Xe/waifud/blob/main/LICENSE
2021-06-02 10:44:05 <skarnet> Xe: the parenthesizing around "subject to the following conditions" is unclear
2021-06-02 10:44:51 <skarnet> I can't tell if I need to be a gay criminal to use the software, or if I can use it no matter what but the people I provide it to must be gay criminals
2021-06-02 10:45:06 <Xe> perfect
2021-06-02 10:45:14 <Xe> existential confusion is my constant state of being
2021-06-02 10:45:31 <skarnet> but it is important
2021-06-02 10:45:45 <skarnet> do I have the right to download and use the software or not? I'm no company
2021-06-02 10:46:20 <skarnet> (well technically I am, but that's irrelevant to personal use)
2021-06-02 10:46:49 <skarnet> (okay I just realized we're in -cloud, not -offtopic)
2021-06-02 12:35:22 <danieli> it is indeed the wrong channel, but what's the point of sharing software on github if a bogus license prevents people from using it?
2021-06-03 21:57:46 <Ariadne> mcrute: i want to build alpine cloud image for oracle cloud, can it be done with packer?
2021-06-04 00:38:35 <mcrute> Ariadne: should work, there's an OCI builder https://www.packer.io/docs/builders/oracle/oci
2021-06-04 00:39:04 <mcrute> the cloud-init branch should work for it https://github.com/mcrute/alpine-ec2-ami/tree/cloud-init
2021-06-04 00:51:43 <Ariadne> and i can build arm with it?
2021-06-04 00:51:43 <Ariadne> mmmk
2021-06-04 00:53:29 <mcrute> it should work, works on AWS Graviton for certain but haven't tested with others yet
2021-06-04 05:19:17 <danieli> Ariadne: so *that's* why you signed up for oracle cloud - if i can ask, why?
2021-06-04 05:39:57 <Ariadne> danieli: i want to see what these ampere cpus can do
2021-06-08 14:29:51 <minimal> all quiet on the cloudy front?
2021-06-13 16:34:46 <Entelin> created an ec2 instance from the website, tried both x86/64 and aarch, apk update && apk upgrade, reboot,   will not boot
2021-06-13 16:37:00 <Entelin> if I copy /boot  from a non upgraded system to the now broken one, it will boot again, but modules are broken
2021-06-13 17:46:35 <tomalok> Entelin - which one (link?) and what options did you give when launching?
2021-06-13 17:48:41 <Entelin> https://us-east-1.console.aws.amazon.com/ec2/home#launchAmi=ami-0056ccb36f3fb6235
2021-06-13 17:48:43 <Entelin> and
2021-06-13 17:48:59 <Entelin> https://us-east-1.console.aws.amazon.com/ec2/home#launchAmi=ami-068216a0f0800db09
2021-06-13 17:50:10 <Entelin> then it was basically the defaults, I used an existing key and security group
2021-06-13 17:50:53 <Entelin> the first one is aarch, the second x86/64
2021-06-13 17:51:08 <Entelin> it reboots fine until you do an update
2021-06-13 17:51:16 <Entelin> (6/6) Upgrading linux-virt (5.10.29-r0 -> 5.10.38-r0)
2021-06-13 17:53:13 <tomalok> just staying within 3.13.5 -- not jumping to edge or 3.14 rc?
2021-06-13 17:55:47 <Entelin> i ran  apk update && apk upgrade
2021-06-13 17:55:52 <Entelin> and then reboot
2021-06-13 17:55:54 <Entelin> thats it
2021-06-13 17:57:44 <tomalok> my guess is that there's a step you need to do to update the initramfs
2021-06-13 17:58:11 <tomalok> looking at replicating the issue
2021-06-13 17:58:14 <Entelin> the update procedure did update the initramfs...
2021-06-13 17:58:38 <tomalok> or re-syslinux/grub
2021-06-13 18:00:37 <Entelin> its a t4g.micro btw
2021-06-13 18:00:53 <tomalok> i'm testing on a t4g.nano
2021-06-13 18:06:45 <tomalok> root@ip-172-31-86-218:~# apk update fetch http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.13/main/aarch64/APKINDEX.tar.gz fetch http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.13/community/aarch64/APKINDEX.tar.gz v3.13.5-194-g1274644b64 [http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.13/main] v3.13.5-187-g1477654ee3 [http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.13/community] OK: 13740 distinct packages available root@ip-172-31-86-218:~# apk upgrade -s 
2021-06-13 18:07:25 <tomalok> sorry, pasting doesn't seem to work as I remember.
2021-06-13 18:07:55 <tomalok> or it's this web client
2021-06-13 18:08:44 <Entelin> mine reads the same
2021-06-13 18:09:08 <Entelin> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Tp3WzXq5MT/
2021-06-13 18:22:52 <Entelin> tomalok, were you able to reproduce it?
2021-06-13 18:23:46 <tomalok> before i pull the trigger, i want to do a side-by-side comparison to see what's different
2021-06-13 18:23:59 <tomalok> so, launching a second instance now
2021-06-13 18:24:12 <Entelin> ah ok
2021-06-13 18:25:35 <tomalok> i did a couple things by hand  that we do from https://github.com/mcrute/alpine-ec2-ami/blob/master/scripts/setup-ami just to retrace those steps but forgot to do some md5sums first
2021-06-13 18:28:19 <tomalok> i think i found something
2021-06-13 18:30:58 <tomalok> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/d387c47Hsq/
2021-06-13 18:31:12 <tomalok> this is probably the cause
2021-06-13 18:33:07 <Entelin> ah, missing boot params
2021-06-13 18:34:57 <Entelin> trying it 
2021-06-13 18:35:27 <tomalok> problem is /etc/default/grub has some shell vars that only exist when we're initially creating the image -- please create an issue at https://github.com/mcrute/alpine-ec2-ami and we'll get that fixed for 3.14 (and backport to other supported versions)
2021-06-13 18:36:18 <Entelin> well it booted, going to try and fix my real one
2021-06-13 18:37:59 <tomalok> i'm semi-surprised no ones caught this (or complained about it) before now -- personally, i just point the TF that manages my swarm to a new AMI and it starts spinning up new instances and removing old ones
2021-06-13 18:38:25 <Entelin> well... linux systems dont get rebooted often. Mine was probably broken for a good month
2021-06-13 18:39:52 <Entelin> I'm guessing it wouldnt effect docker, and those who might be using it in situations where they are spinning up 100 of them and terminating them also wouldnt notice i suspect
2021-06-13 18:39:55 <tomalok> might be something else going on for x86_64 though -- diferent bootloader
2021-06-13 18:40:09 <Entelin> it happened on both aarch and x84
2021-06-13 18:40:13 <Entelin> x86*
2021-06-13 18:40:22 <tomalok> (nod) well, might be something similar
2021-06-13 18:40:47 <tomalok> per "blame" this has been there for the past 2 years
2021-06-13 18:41:10 <tomalok> wrong line, 9 mos.
2021-06-13 18:42:31 <Entelin> really? how is that possible?
2021-06-13 18:46:52 <Entelin> yeah got my instance fixed. Thanks a lot for the help
2021-06-13 18:47:08 <Entelin> I need to go for some hours but I'll make a bug report as soon as I get back
2021-06-13 18:47:23 <Entelin> including your diff and such
2021-06-13 18:47:26 <tomalok> i'm digging into x86_64 at the moment, will be looking for your bug report :)
2021-06-13 18:47:36 <Entelin> thanks o/
2021-06-13 18:47:45 <tomalok> (will need to do OtherThings™ in the interim)
2021-06-13 18:47:50 <minimal> Entelin: you might be interested in my script for creating Alpine cloud-init disk images
2021-06-13 18:48:24 <minimal> https://github.com/dermotbradley/create-alpine-disk-image
2021-06-13 18:48:42 <minimal> Haven't tested it with AWS yet but shouldn't be too much work to get that in shape
2021-06-13 18:48:43 <Entelin> thanks ill check it out, need to run like 1hr ago o/
2021-06-13 18:48:57 <tomalok> providing a "cloud-init" flavor is in our to-do queue too
2021-06-13 18:50:40 <minimal> tomalok: yes I'm aware of that, I've talked to mcrute in the past
2021-06-13 18:57:19 <tomalok> fwiw, i'm unable to reproduce with the x86_64 AMI...  upgrade & reboot seems to have gone okay.
2021-06-14 04:23:09 <Entelin> tomalok, https://github.com/mcrute/alpine-ec2-ami/issues/121
2021-06-14 04:23:47 <Entelin> going to look into x86 because I'm quite sure I had achieved a nonbootable system earlier today
2021-06-14 05:37:48 <Entelin> hmm well i can't reproduce it. I may have accidentally uninstalled syslinux previously.
2021-06-14 15:12:04 <ncopa> tomalok, mcrute: are you ready for a 3.14.0 release?
2021-06-14 19:46:30 <tomalok> ncopa: i've built and launched _rc1 & _rc2 successfully -- but there's one fix we'll need to get into our build code that Entelin found yesterday
2021-06-15 00:05:59 <tomalok> looks like there's an _rc3 -- i'm building one of those now, with a potential fix
2021-06-15 01:23:53 <tomalok> Entelin: fix included in https://github.com/mcrute/alpine-ec2-ami/pull/122 (also ncopa: this'll get us ready to build once 3.14.0 is out)
2021-06-15 06:38:32 <ncopa> awsome! wil try get 3.14 out today
2021-06-15 14:37:49 <tomalok> ncopa: how long before we see an alpine-base-3.14.0 (without the rc?)
2021-06-15 14:38:35 <ikke> -1 minute
2021-06-15 14:38:44 <ikke> oh
2021-06-15 14:39:02 <ikke> https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/commit/?id=cf59c903c95a
2021-06-15 14:39:03 <ikke> yes
2021-06-15 14:39:13 <ikke> 7 minutes ago
2021-06-15 14:41:57 <tomalok> sorry, i meant in d-lcdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.14/main/aarch64 -- AMI build script uses alpine-base package to determine the release value (which is why it works for _rc's)
2021-06-15 14:42:16 <tomalok> (well, aarch64, and x86_64)
2021-06-15 14:43:31 <ikke> it should appear soon
2021-06-15 14:46:21 <tomalok> i'll wait for it before kicking off the build, if "soon" is 10m -- otherwise, it's time to start the day job, and i'll check back around noon local.
2021-06-15 14:49:12 <ikke> 15-30 minutes after the builders finished it
2021-06-15 14:50:12 <ikke> tomalok: it's already here: http://dl-master.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.14/main/aarch64/
2021-06-15 14:51:30 <tomalok> just refreshed and still seeing *alpine-base-3.14.0_rc4-r0.apk*
2021-06-15 14:51:52 <ikke> master or cdn?
2021-06-15 14:52:08 <tomalok> ah, that's the trick.
2021-06-15 14:52:08 <ikke> it first is pushed to master, the mirrors sync every 15 minutes
2021-06-15 14:52:40 <tomalok> so in 15m -- unless i change the build to use master...
2021-06-15 14:57:59 <tomalok> just landed in cdn
2021-06-15 14:58:04 <ikke> good
2021-06-15 15:00:03 <tomalok> kicking off the ami builds
2021-06-15 15:01:32 <tomalok> more manual stuff to do to get them out the door, but will check back in a bit.
2021-06-15 15:02:14 <ikke> tomalok: do we for now still need to kick the cloud page on a.o?
2021-06-15 16:45:37 <tomalok> yep, we will.
2021-06-15 16:49:51 <tomalok> built 6 images (including 2 new edges, and 2 fixed revisions of previous aarch64 releases) - kicked off releasing them to the all the AWS regions, this will take a little while
2021-06-15 16:50:17 <ikke> Ok
2021-06-15 16:50:23 <ikke> I'm working on the release notes
2021-06-15 16:51:26 <tomalok> after that there's some metadata to cleanup and commit, and we will be at a point where the cloud page can be kicked
2021-06-15 19:08:51 <tomalok> release metadata is being generated now (takes a while because it reaches out to all the regions)
2021-06-15 19:08:54 <ncopa> i changed the topic here
2021-06-15 19:09:06 <tomalok> thanks, ncopa
2021-06-15 19:10:09 <ncopa> maybe it should be "alpine linux cloud team"
2021-06-15 19:16:22 <tomalok> :/ appears an old test cloud-init AMI has snuck into the metadata -- cleaning this up
2021-06-15 19:24:50 <ncopa> tomalok: i dunno if you use twitter, but i'd like to retweet something about cloud images if you do ;)
2021-06-15 19:30:05 <tomalok> i never got around to starting the tweet habit...  ;)
2021-06-15 19:36:36 <tomalok> ikke, ncopa: https://github.com/mcrute/alpine-ec2-ami/tree/master/releases metadata has been updated -- should be ready to kick a rebuild of the cloud page.
2021-06-15 19:39:06 <ikke> tomalok: updated
2021-06-15 19:41:39 <tomalok> ikke: thanks!  this has to be the first time "cloud" is updated before "downloads" (i force-refreshed to be sure)
2021-06-15 19:42:41 <ikke> hmm, that should've been updated as well
2021-06-15 19:50:38 <tomalok> back to the day-job for now.
2021-06-15 19:51:02 <ikke> o/
2021-06-15 19:51:04 <ikke> thanks
2021-06-15 19:51:17 <ikke> tomalok: we forgot to update the latest-stable symlink, that's why the downloads page was still showing 3.13
2021-06-15 19:51:31 <tomalok> caught that on #alpine-devel ;)
2021-06-15 19:51:46 <ikke> :)